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Kaiser gets hot (warm) after use for a long time

Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.

Is your battery draining fast?
Get a battery meter and test that because I had a TyTN that did that...

same here original rom wm6.1 NL

Noel M said:
Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
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If I where you I would try a diffrent radio and check what aps you are running in background/prosseses. I often use my kaiser as an wifi router and I dont think you gets close to as warm as mine streaming and charging at the same time I abuse it so hard it resets itself, now thats hot hehe. Anyway, some radio are battery monsters for me, its just about to find the best one for youreself.
I have good experience with: 1.58.25.17 in Norway, havent tried it whit duttys.
If not you can try 1.65.14.06 and 1.65.17.10 wich dutty included whit the release.

To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying

Noel M said:
To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
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i only experienced this one time when i had my gps turned on for half an hour and my phone turned into a hot potato and battery went from 95 to 15 percent.
u have to realize though that the tilt is sorta like a mini laptop and it will start getting warm after some time unless u give it some rest.

Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?

Noel M said:
Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
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Unfortunately this is almost unavoidable with lithium batteries. My HTC TyTN II battery gets hot while charging, and even hotter if phone is being used (voice or data). It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging (at least they have thermal control circuits, it could explode otherwise, lithium batteries do not like the heat).
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.

Hi Vcespon:
THis is horrible, I can't belive with a advance phone like kaiser something like this happen. Is there any firmware that might fix this, otherwise I will thinking to change this phone, this is unacceptable.

vcespon said:
It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging.
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
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That's not normal. If it is the case your most likely have a hardware problem. Same to the OP.
Mine also got warm and was emptying the battery in a couple of hours once the radio broke down.
Other than this, the only cases where the phone will get really hot is when using WMWifirouter to route the 3G connection to WLAN and downloading a lot. Both the 3G and WiFi radios being on and working hard, plus the processor doing the routing uses a tremendous amount of power. But the device wasn't meant to be used that way anyway.
The GPS also uses quite a bit of power so if you have that on on you might want to try turning it off.
When just talking on the phone the device should get a little warm but no more.

The battery meter would show how much of your battery is being drained when idle... mainly shut down all applications and see what the reading is and that would give you an idea if the device is defective.

I can tell ya, mine gets HOT. I sent the first one back because I thought it was defective. Also with a couple different roms it makes no difference. If your using 3G, BT, GPS, or any combination of those, that SOB will get hot. If I'm charging at the same time, it gets so hot it shuts the charging proccess down. I have to hold it over a AC vent to cool it back down.
Over all though, the only complaint I have with the phone is the heat and battery drain issue.

dead phone or dead battery
Do not know if this where to post. But my TyTn stopped charging. The phone is completly dead. Right now I'm on vacation in a remote location with out any access to the local AT&T to get a battery quick. But the problem is that the battery is not taking a charge. The red charge light is not on or anything. I left the phone on the charger for two days and nights with no results. I ordered a battery but will not have it untill I get home in another week. I have Dutty's 6.1 5.2.19199 UC Compliant ROM on the phone and I've been using it for about 10 days now. Everything was working fine. The phone was getting warm during GPS useage and when charging. Right now I hope that its just the battery. But in case its not, I need to know what my options are. Is the phone dead? What other measures are there to bring it back to life? Thanks in advance.

I can say from my experience with a tytn and now a tytnII when you use them rigorously , they will get hot. I guess the real question is how hot is it really getting and what is running on the phone. Is it uncomfortable to hold?

On EDGE data with FlexMail and IM+ online, the phone stays ice cold. On HSDPA the same, it gets slightly warm. When talking on the phone with HSDPA, it gets a bit warmer.
When using GPS+iGO8 or TomTom, it gets rather warm. Add charging and it gets pretty hot. I've seen batterystatus show as high as 42C using internal GPS+iGO8+Charging.

Gets hot + doesn't charge from laptop
I've got a similar problem - Kaiser may get hot when being used as a modem and/or charging...., well I've actually had this going on from time to time and wasn't much concerned about it until now: the battery doesn't charge when connected to my laptop - ActiveSync or modem, the amber light doesn't come on, plus drains fast.
The Kaiser(so the battery) is only 3 mths old (although I use it heavily as a modem) and I guess it's unlikely that changing the battery will help here...

My kaiser gets warm too.. I guess it's because I'm hot.

Never mind
HR fixed it...

You also have to remember that these things have a 400mhz processor in them without any fan. Now when your using that processor to the fullest, it IS going to get warm. This is what your going to get from any high performance electronic item without a cooling fan. It's not unacceptable, it's the way it is. 3G, bluetooth, and WiFi can be very processor intensive depending on use, imagine all 3 on at the same time, not to mention the added heat from rapid battery discharge (which is unavoidable when using the radio).
The designers of the phone are no idiots, they designed systems that shut the phone off if it's going to get damaged. So if your worried about the heat cause it's uncomfortable, don't work the sucker so hard! ;-)

Hi to all and thanks for the replies;
My theory is that if you buy an expensive phone you need to exploit until the limit. I bought the kaiser because is a phone that can give me almost any kind of connection and I can be connect online almost everywhere. I can't stand that If I use the 3G connection for 10 minutes the phones gets so warm. I use battery status too and the temperature is like 42F after I use the phone for 10 minutes.

Artifacts in TouchFLO after charging

Two times in a week my diamond have had artifacts (lines, etc) in TouchFLO after it's been left charging in the night.
A simple soft-reset fixes the problem, but it's annoying.
Anyone else had the same issue? Can it be that the battery gets hot during the night and overheats the 3d-chip?
PS: I'm the standard socket-charger that comes with the htc trinity.

I have the same issue with the diamond, but I don't care about it.
Heat may be the cause but without doing anything (except charging) the diamond is just a bit hot...

Have the same problem when I use GPS and Wi-Fi at the same time, gets worse as the phone gets hotter, I just get wavy lines, once I disable GPS or Wi-Fi and the phone cools down the problem goes away.
Seem the GPU is over heating, my Tytn 2 got as hot the Diamond but as that didn't use a proper GPU to render the screen the CPU may have been able to cope with the heat, plus it was a bigger phone.
At least I'm not alone, though my phone may be faulty.
Wonder whoever reads this as an experiment, try running a GPS program that is connected to the satellites like google maps, tomtom etc and with Wi-Fi running on best performance and see if any others have the same problem.
Should notice something after 5-10 mins.

maybe i'm lucky, but i didn't notice anything of the above (thus it get's damn hot)!

High running temperature

I know there is another thread about this, but I feel that it does need bringing to everyone's attention, as it may not be a hardware issue...
It seems that when I have my diamond on charge, the lower section of the rear of the case gets very warm. Now at first, I thaught the battery charging or being under load was the issue, but it seems more like the area which is heating up, is the area where I assume the CPU is (to the left of the sim card slot as you look at it form the rear). When I disable all of the wireless devices it has, the temperature decreases a little, but even when sitting idle on the desk with the backlight at it's lowest, it still seems to get warmer than i'd expect it to. Not only does the rear of the device become warm, the metal sides of the case become rather warm as well, and the lower panel with the buttons in it also warms up to about the same temperature.
Could this be a faulty device, or is this actually a recognised feature of the device? (I have an O2 XDA Insignia/Diamond running in GSM mode currently). I have read that others are suffering from warm temperatures, and I'd like to know the cause, even if it's not possible to fix it.
Thanks for any info...

I've got a compact IV and mine runs hot whenever I have tt6 running, suf the net, use youtube - you get the idea -so it's not the battery. It was a lot worse before I flashed a custom ROM.
Before I got my phone I phoned up T-Mobile to check for stock and one of the stores told me that they had to send their stock back for replacement as there were problems with the phone overheating. This was also discussed for the Compact IV on another thread.
I've had my phone for a few weeks and it seems fine - just hot when I run certain programs...

it is a documented aspect of the phone... read this PDF
http://member.america.htc.com/downl..._Diamond/HTC_Diamond_User_Manual_Asia_WWE.pdf

when in idle htc isnt hot at all, but when chatging or using gps it becamo really really hot. but when using wlan,opera,msn,etc it isnt hot even worm, the temperatures are ok.

what he said

3 situations I've noticed mine the warmest.
1 - On charge (with the screen left on)
2 - Running TomTom 7
3 - After a long-ish phone call

It seems the temperature goes in line with the CPU usage and the battery discharge.
Sometimes I can feel the phone being hot in my pocket, even when in standby. I installed a taskmanager to see what application is taking so much CPU power. When I switch it on, I can see the historical CPU usage being around 50% (when the phone was in standby!). Unfortunately it drops immediatly to a reasonable 4-5% and so far I could not identify which application is the cause.
Cheers
Amin

Xperia overheating

Yesterday using my in built sat nav my xperia went crazy 4-5 miles into my journey, with tom tt7 flashing on and of so I pulled over and took it from the screen mount, it was hot enough to fry an egg on , i did have my heating on as it was cold, also after closing tt7 the phone was randomly flicking through menus. I had to remove the battery allow it to cool for 10 min put battery back turn on and leave my heating off, thank god all was well and continued on my way trouble free for the rest of my journey. All has been well since it normaly does get hot during use of sat nav, wifi but this was very hot.

I have the same thing, it really does get incredibly hot, Maybe it is the GPS?

Hmz i've been using tomtom for about 3 hours and deviece was just a bit warm.

normaly does only get slightly warm, but yesterday it got really hot.

i wonder if it will explode..
u know.. since the battery is made from sony

I noticed this problem... it heated up a lot due to the car heating was on and the heat was hitting the X1... I have used the GPS in the past and never had problems... Its most likely the fact had the heating on... which made it HOTTER...
Generally warm and that it...
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I supose the heat of the car's heater was causing it to overheat (it's imaginable considering the metal battery cover, that as all metals do, easily heats up). I haven't had any temperature issues to this point and as far as I have checked (Batti allows to see battery temp), the temperature on mine hasn't come any higher then about 35C.

I have a different issue. With my one, It will be fully charged, and then it will start to over heat. After a couplr of hours, say about 5 hours (at work) i check the battery of the X1, and its only got 2 bars left and needs to be charged again! This is the second time it has happened to me. The battery wont even last 10 hours!

andyboo said:
I have a different issue. With my one, It will be fully charged, and then it will start to over heat. After a couplr of hours, say about 5 hours (at work) i check the battery of the X1, and its only got 2 bars left and needs to be charged again! This is the second time it has happened to me. The battery wont even last 10 hours!
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This is probably the problem of battery.

The times my X1 has got hot tends to be from a dodgy charger. It seems like the connector needs to be perfectly in.

My Xperia is getting really hot while using mobile data (GPRS/EDGE), found out that power draw with data connection on is about 500mA compared to usual 60-70mA. I think that battery just get hot thanks to this extreme power draw, but may be there is just some chip which heats up while sending data over 3G network.

hot vs crack
When I'm in the office the phone is permanently connected to my Notebook. It loads an stays in sync with my outlook...
Sometimes I thought that it feels a bit too warm. But usually I'm dropping it in my bag quite fast.
Last week I took it and It was really hot. It felt like the source of the heat was the Battery. The metal cover was nearly glowing.
The interesting thing is, that I also found what is called "THE CRACK" at the stylus holder.
I'm not sure if the crack was there before but if not...
I'm also having a Problem with a very short battery runtime. About 5-6 Hours on Standby. Batti also seems a bit confused. Shows violet loading color even if not loading from time to time. Iwas blaming the Touch-IT Manila shell I've installed, but I am not that sure any more. Going to test an write an Update...
Do the other heaters also have cracks in their cases?

Mine got quite warm today .. when I was running Skype and QIP, waiting for some people to send me IM. In 5 minutes it become very warm. Not really hot, but it was certain CPU is working 100%.
WIFI, BT, GPS was all off.
When I closed Skype and let QIP run, it seemed to go back to normal in few minutes. Next time I must check Task manager.

haha Im living in canada and its really cold here in Ontario so i dont think it would get that hot

I've observed for a few days that my x1 also heats up. but not to a point that it almost could boils an egg. if if you google "Lithium Polymer WIKI" the battery characteristics is that it heats up to a point that it can explode. that's a downside of the battery though it is better than li-ion in terms of life cycles, it is even said there that you can't leave a li-poly battery inside a car and it explodes while attempting to charge it in a zippo bag.

Mines usually at 40 deg C with wifi on

What week did your Xperias get produced?

I use my Xperia almost everyday for internetacces on my laptop. This means that it's constantly turned on, and intensively using the HSDPA connection for hours long.
When this happens, my phone heats up as well, sometimes more than on other moments.
Is it normal ?

29.8 °C at the moment, just take it out of my pocket.
After 5-6min bowering with opera 33.7 °C start to feels lilte warm.
Still 33.7 °C after installing and uninstalling simply .cab file.
After soft rest still 33.7 °C
Change to media panel play some music and watching videos 35.0°C, feels warm.
Sometimes I can get it 37-40°C in normal use, installing some .cab's and using some random programs etc. It's warm but I think it's normal.
I think it's battery what heats the phone and what voltage/electricityis it's using at the moment, more and longer using programs,
wifis, etc it uses more power and heats the battery, and when there is no any fans or etc cooling it only heats,
after u let it down in your hand and let it cool. Sounds logical to me.
Highest temperatur that I heve get to my xperia is 48°C, It was ****ing hot and it rly never can get that hot whit normal situation,
playing music, bowering, etc. It was in charge, never happened again,
normal charge temperatur in my x1 is 40°C or lilte higer.
Hope this gives some answers.
Sry for my english btw.

my fone is at 46C now... im chargin it from pc usb n talkin on da fone using BT the weather now is about 27C... sometimes i get like 48C 49C when in da car using tomtom 7 for about 1 to 2 hour... n da weather outside is only 50F...
is this normal?? will my fone explode??

Galaxy S getting hot at times? Or is it just mine?

I've had my Galaxy S for a week and of all the reported problems the worst for me is the phone gets hot sometimes in use and while charging. I checked in the application system I downloaded from the android market and it showed temperatures up to 53 degrees celsius. This makes the phone impossible to hold to the ear for a phone call and even internet browsing difficult as it gets too hot to touch.
As a side note unless the carphonewarehouse offer you a 7/14 day return policy don't buy from them. I'm having problems now because of it.
I can't post links to the pictures I took showing this as my account is still new, but it's on picasa web album under galaxy s temperatures and I can send you the link in a message if you want.
Has anyone else experience this problem?

I did notice that the phone can get quite warm at times. But for me even after 1hour in the sun outside the phone wasn't uncomfortable to touch. Much less to hot to hold to the ear.
My phone is charging right now and temp is 44 degrees centigrade. But considering the room-temp is almost 35, its not that bad. I'd rather have my phone becoming a bit warm than it taking forever to charge.

Ive only noticed this when gaming and charging from AC, its not that big a problem for me really, all smartphones suffer from this to some degree. My old Touch HD would get really hot if just wifi was active which is more annoying than this.

Well I have the desire as well and had many smart phones in the past that got warm but never as hot as the galaxy s, nor as frequently when used. It doesn't stay hot, but when it gets hot I can't put it to my ear to phone people. It happens mid call after I've use the phone for awhile.

Well that doesnt sound right, mine doesnt get hot like that, so perhaps yours is faulty?

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Ive only noticed this when gaming and charging from AC
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Same here (USB also)
but other than that the phone remains colder than my HTC Magic.
It does get hot sometimes during calling but not that much.

I just got a new one (old one replaced) and I'm disappointed I'm suffering from this problem also. Mine also reaches up to 53 degrees.

have same problem but....
I downloaded a app "Advanced Task Killer" and killed all the apps that were working in background and i use from time to time, like YMessenger, Mail....
now the phone even if its charging the temp is between 35C and 40C. and maybe the battery will not discharge that fast

well it gets warm here 2 . but i had the same with my iphone 3g .i think its the working of the processor that makes it hot .its the same as with a pc when you run it to its high performance it gets hot 2

neoraiden said:
Well I have the desire as well and had many smart phones in the past that got warm but never as hot as the galaxy s, nor as frequently when used. It doesn't stay hot, but when it gets hot I can't put it to my ear to phone people. It happens mid call after I've use the phone for awhile.
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that sounds like normal
my old HTC Athena, gets really hot after long sessions of WiFi, 3G, or GPS, and in the SGS i get similar temperature when using the same stuff.
no heat from Bluetooth, or at least it's not noticeable
but ALL cell phones gets hot after long voice conversations.

Some times
Allways when im playing games my SGS gets pretty hot but not in AC .

From the troubleshootig section of the manual -
Your device is hot to the touch
When you use applications that require more power or use
applications on your device for an extended period of time,
your device may feel hot to the touch. This is normal and
should not affect your device's lifespan or performance.

It gets quite hot sometimes. Battery might rise from 33C in idle to around 45C on load.
I think it is the GPS chipset doing really weird calculations. That happened to me in the hardest math classes in college. Whenever I was totally lost and clueless about something during a calculus test I'd always get nervous and hot and sweaty.
Never killed me tho. I think the SGS will be fine even while hot.

I had the VIbrant for a week now.. i can't really say its gotten hot... maybe once.. but its not something severe, because i can't really remember how hot it was...
but from my research... iPhone4 is doing it, people complained they couldn't hold it close to their face while talking..... All the 1ghz SnapDragon's been doing it...there has been reports of the device too hot to even charge....even the underlcocked Acer Liquid E....
I've actually overused it the first few days...i can't really recall this happening to my phone...

Charging with screen on made my SGS rather hot. So now I try to leave the screen off when charging. Come winter that might change, not always a disadvantage to have something hot in a cold car

Seems to get hot in a location around the SIM card area on the phone when charging from USB or AC.
Not worried about it though.

Today try out the Fancy Widget, but later uninstalled it, I already disabled auto refresh everything, but my SGS get overheated and battery down by 50% just in 5 hours.. ......Anyone know why?

charging time
How long does your phone takes to charge ?
Mine takes about 3-4 hour hours on pc usb and about 3 hours on power adapter come with the phone.
My HTC tytn2 with extended battery 2800 only takes 2.5 hours to charge over the pc usb charge.

Mine's getting a little bit hot after trying some 3d games (asphalt i.e, i don't play too much) or clips (few minutes). it seems to have a particular "hot spot" at the portion of the sim card/sd card, the rest of the phone feels quite cool, and i can hold it without any hassle.

Charging the phone at the moment. 42 celcius.
Are you using setcpu? 10 mins ago I was using setcpu and noticed my phone gotten hot suddenly - I didnt do any sort of ocing. Checked the temperature and was shocked to see 53c Uninstalled it and the temperatre returns to a more acceptable level