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title says it all really!
Depends on your definition of 'hot'
All mobile devices get warmer when they are used ... be it the likes of the internal component working harder, and the battery having a more sustained drain when in use
well, I've had a Vario II, a Touch and a Touch Cruise, and I never really noticed this before. It doesn't affect the running in any way and I'm very pleased with the device. Just wondered if it was a 'danger' sign.
Nah, it's just another of those random handy features - it keeps you warm.
Excellent, a feature! Thanks for that. Glad to know it's nothing to worry about.
it`s not a bug it`s a feature
well...to bad energy is turned into heat instead of power for the phone.
I have had this before with my Vario I, but after flashing some different radio's and roms, this problem of getting a very hot device went away.
I have to say that the device does get much hotter than any other device I've owned.
All device gets hot when u use GPRS/HSDPA Data connection (with traffic going on). This is bcos you are draining the battery at a faster rate than the phone normally would.
Yes...it is warmer compare to ther bigger wm pda
When I use it in my car - tight in the carholder, TomTom, GPRS (for TomTom Traffic) and charger - it get's extremely hot.
You can almost bake an egg on it...
A hot diamond... what to do?
So this device is hot in more ways than one - Great for those cold winter mornings
pietrucci said:
When I use it in my car - tight in the carholder, TomTom, GPRS (for TomTom Traffic) and charger - it get's extremely hot.
You can almost bake an egg on it...
A hot diamond... what to do?
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mine gets warm but not extremely hot and im doing the same^
they all seem to get a bit hot. seems to be a drawback if it being so slim. However on mine, it does not seem to be the battery that gets warm, but the sapce below it where the qualcomm chipset is located....
definitely not the battery. If you remove the cover and place your finger on it you can feel the exact spot where it gets warm. Like said before I believe it's the proc or gpu. And mine gets doesn't only get warm using gprs or wifi, just using the phone for 5 minutes with the screen on gets it really hot. As long as I have my warranty I don't really mind though
Since Diamond is a 528Mhz device, you can't compare it with pre Diamond (touch family), which are only 400Mhz. The faster the device, the more heat it produces. When GPRS or WiFi is used, it drain battery faster and the device also gets hot faster.
If you guys ever user Atom Life, you won't be complaining about how hot a Diamond can be. Atom Life is a 624Mhz device.
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Since Diamond is a 528Mhz device, you can't compare it with pre Diamond (touch family), which are only 400Mhz. The faster the device, the more heat it produces. When GPRS or WiFi is used, it drain battery faster and the device also gets hot faster.
If you guys ever user Atom Life, you won't be complaining about how hot a Diamond can be. Atom Life is a 624Mhz device.
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the more mhz you have got, isnt neccesary meaning your phone gets warmer.
it depends on the generation of the cpu (and gpu).
Can it not get too hot so that actually the chip gets overheated and damaged? What is the maximum temperature the chip can handle before it breaks down?
Normally it would be max about 70-80 degrees Celcius before it's really dangerous.
I'll burn you
Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
Is your battery draining fast?
Get a battery meter and test that because I had a TyTN that did that...
same here original rom wm6.1 NL
Noel M said:
Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
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If I where you I would try a diffrent radio and check what aps you are running in background/prosseses. I often use my kaiser as an wifi router and I dont think you gets close to as warm as mine streaming and charging at the same time I abuse it so hard it resets itself, now thats hot hehe. Anyway, some radio are battery monsters for me, its just about to find the best one for youreself.
I have good experience with: 1.58.25.17 in Norway, havent tried it whit duttys.
If not you can try 1.65.14.06 and 1.65.17.10 wich dutty included whit the release.
To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
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To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
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i only experienced this one time when i had my gps turned on for half an hour and my phone turned into a hot potato and battery went from 95 to 15 percent.
u have to realize though that the tilt is sorta like a mini laptop and it will start getting warm after some time unless u give it some rest.
Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
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Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
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Unfortunately this is almost unavoidable with lithium batteries. My HTC TyTN II battery gets hot while charging, and even hotter if phone is being used (voice or data). It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging (at least they have thermal control circuits, it could explode otherwise, lithium batteries do not like the heat).
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
Hi Vcespon:
THis is horrible, I can't belive with a advance phone like kaiser something like this happen. Is there any firmware that might fix this, otherwise I will thinking to change this phone, this is unacceptable.
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It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging.
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
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That's not normal. If it is the case your most likely have a hardware problem. Same to the OP.
Mine also got warm and was emptying the battery in a couple of hours once the radio broke down.
Other than this, the only cases where the phone will get really hot is when using WMWifirouter to route the 3G connection to WLAN and downloading a lot. Both the 3G and WiFi radios being on and working hard, plus the processor doing the routing uses a tremendous amount of power. But the device wasn't meant to be used that way anyway.
The GPS also uses quite a bit of power so if you have that on on you might want to try turning it off.
When just talking on the phone the device should get a little warm but no more.
The battery meter would show how much of your battery is being drained when idle... mainly shut down all applications and see what the reading is and that would give you an idea if the device is defective.
I can tell ya, mine gets HOT. I sent the first one back because I thought it was defective. Also with a couple different roms it makes no difference. If your using 3G, BT, GPS, or any combination of those, that SOB will get hot. If I'm charging at the same time, it gets so hot it shuts the charging proccess down. I have to hold it over a AC vent to cool it back down.
Over all though, the only complaint I have with the phone is the heat and battery drain issue.
dead phone or dead battery
Do not know if this where to post. But my TyTn stopped charging. The phone is completly dead. Right now I'm on vacation in a remote location with out any access to the local AT&T to get a battery quick. But the problem is that the battery is not taking a charge. The red charge light is not on or anything. I left the phone on the charger for two days and nights with no results. I ordered a battery but will not have it untill I get home in another week. I have Dutty's 6.1 5.2.19199 UC Compliant ROM on the phone and I've been using it for about 10 days now. Everything was working fine. The phone was getting warm during GPS useage and when charging. Right now I hope that its just the battery. But in case its not, I need to know what my options are. Is the phone dead? What other measures are there to bring it back to life? Thanks in advance.
I can say from my experience with a tytn and now a tytnII when you use them rigorously , they will get hot. I guess the real question is how hot is it really getting and what is running on the phone. Is it uncomfortable to hold?
On EDGE data with FlexMail and IM+ online, the phone stays ice cold. On HSDPA the same, it gets slightly warm. When talking on the phone with HSDPA, it gets a bit warmer.
When using GPS+iGO8 or TomTom, it gets rather warm. Add charging and it gets pretty hot. I've seen batterystatus show as high as 42C using internal GPS+iGO8+Charging.
Gets hot + doesn't charge from laptop
I've got a similar problem - Kaiser may get hot when being used as a modem and/or charging...., well I've actually had this going on from time to time and wasn't much concerned about it until now: the battery doesn't charge when connected to my laptop - ActiveSync or modem, the amber light doesn't come on, plus drains fast.
The Kaiser(so the battery) is only 3 mths old (although I use it heavily as a modem) and I guess it's unlikely that changing the battery will help here...
My kaiser gets warm too.. I guess it's because I'm hot.
Never mind
HR fixed it...
You also have to remember that these things have a 400mhz processor in them without any fan. Now when your using that processor to the fullest, it IS going to get warm. This is what your going to get from any high performance electronic item without a cooling fan. It's not unacceptable, it's the way it is. 3G, bluetooth, and WiFi can be very processor intensive depending on use, imagine all 3 on at the same time, not to mention the added heat from rapid battery discharge (which is unavoidable when using the radio).
The designers of the phone are no idiots, they designed systems that shut the phone off if it's going to get damaged. So if your worried about the heat cause it's uncomfortable, don't work the sucker so hard! ;-)
Hi to all and thanks for the replies;
My theory is that if you buy an expensive phone you need to exploit until the limit. I bought the kaiser because is a phone that can give me almost any kind of connection and I can be connect online almost everywhere. I can't stand that If I use the 3G connection for 10 minutes the phones gets so warm. I use battery status too and the temperature is like 42F after I use the phone for 10 minutes.
My T-Mobile Compact IV gets pretty warm sometimes, not just when charging. Havent found any reason why that happens (any software etc). Wonder if its related to the poor battery life?
Anyone with T-Mobile exp same issue? Or is it ok... or should I go back to T-mobile with it?
I try to keep it on 2G helps battery a little. Cant do too many tweaks as my comp runs Linux and cant connect.
My battery is hot too, when I am using navigation .
It's not strictly over-heating but more a characteristic of the phone
Mine does it, and everyone elses does - more so when a connection of some sort is on - for instance, a phone call, constant internet connection, gps etc
There are many threads about this out there but I dont know if there is a solution from HTC (if it is even classed as a problem)
what i've noticed is that the sides get heated up....the only reason i can think of is the heat being disspated well by the diamond's metallic body(AL, is it?)....i'd say its a good thing.....well ofcourse not for our palm
I know there is another thread about this, but I feel that it does need bringing to everyone's attention, as it may not be a hardware issue...
It seems that when I have my diamond on charge, the lower section of the rear of the case gets very warm. Now at first, I thaught the battery charging or being under load was the issue, but it seems more like the area which is heating up, is the area where I assume the CPU is (to the left of the sim card slot as you look at it form the rear). When I disable all of the wireless devices it has, the temperature decreases a little, but even when sitting idle on the desk with the backlight at it's lowest, it still seems to get warmer than i'd expect it to. Not only does the rear of the device become warm, the metal sides of the case become rather warm as well, and the lower panel with the buttons in it also warms up to about the same temperature.
Could this be a faulty device, or is this actually a recognised feature of the device? (I have an O2 XDA Insignia/Diamond running in GSM mode currently). I have read that others are suffering from warm temperatures, and I'd like to know the cause, even if it's not possible to fix it.
Thanks for any info...
I've got a compact IV and mine runs hot whenever I have tt6 running, suf the net, use youtube - you get the idea -so it's not the battery. It was a lot worse before I flashed a custom ROM.
Before I got my phone I phoned up T-Mobile to check for stock and one of the stores told me that they had to send their stock back for replacement as there were problems with the phone overheating. This was also discussed for the Compact IV on another thread.
I've had my phone for a few weeks and it seems fine - just hot when I run certain programs...
it is a documented aspect of the phone... read this PDF
http://member.america.htc.com/downl..._Diamond/HTC_Diamond_User_Manual_Asia_WWE.pdf
when in idle htc isnt hot at all, but when chatging or using gps it becamo really really hot. but when using wlan,opera,msn,etc it isnt hot even worm, the temperatures are ok.
what he said
3 situations I've noticed mine the warmest.
1 - On charge (with the screen left on)
2 - Running TomTom 7
3 - After a long-ish phone call
It seems the temperature goes in line with the CPU usage and the battery discharge.
Sometimes I can feel the phone being hot in my pocket, even when in standby. I installed a taskmanager to see what application is taking so much CPU power. When I switch it on, I can see the historical CPU usage being around 50% (when the phone was in standby!). Unfortunately it drops immediatly to a reasonable 4-5% and so far I could not identify which application is the cause.
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Amin
I've had my Galaxy S for a week and of all the reported problems the worst for me is the phone gets hot sometimes in use and while charging. I checked in the application system I downloaded from the android market and it showed temperatures up to 53 degrees celsius. This makes the phone impossible to hold to the ear for a phone call and even internet browsing difficult as it gets too hot to touch.
As a side note unless the carphonewarehouse offer you a 7/14 day return policy don't buy from them. I'm having problems now because of it.
I can't post links to the pictures I took showing this as my account is still new, but it's on picasa web album under galaxy s temperatures and I can send you the link in a message if you want.
Has anyone else experience this problem?
I did notice that the phone can get quite warm at times. But for me even after 1hour in the sun outside the phone wasn't uncomfortable to touch. Much less to hot to hold to the ear.
My phone is charging right now and temp is 44 degrees centigrade. But considering the room-temp is almost 35, its not that bad. I'd rather have my phone becoming a bit warm than it taking forever to charge.
Ive only noticed this when gaming and charging from AC, its not that big a problem for me really, all smartphones suffer from this to some degree. My old Touch HD would get really hot if just wifi was active which is more annoying than this.
Well I have the desire as well and had many smart phones in the past that got warm but never as hot as the galaxy s, nor as frequently when used. It doesn't stay hot, but when it gets hot I can't put it to my ear to phone people. It happens mid call after I've use the phone for awhile.
Well that doesnt sound right, mine doesnt get hot like that, so perhaps yours is faulty?
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Same here (USB also)
but other than that the phone remains colder than my HTC Magic.
It does get hot sometimes during calling but not that much.
I just got a new one (old one replaced) and I'm disappointed I'm suffering from this problem also. Mine also reaches up to 53 degrees.
have same problem but....
I downloaded a app "Advanced Task Killer" and killed all the apps that were working in background and i use from time to time, like YMessenger, Mail....
now the phone even if its charging the temp is between 35C and 40C. and maybe the battery will not discharge that fast
well it gets warm here 2 . but i had the same with my iphone 3g .i think its the working of the processor that makes it hot .its the same as with a pc when you run it to its high performance it gets hot 2
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Well I have the desire as well and had many smart phones in the past that got warm but never as hot as the galaxy s, nor as frequently when used. It doesn't stay hot, but when it gets hot I can't put it to my ear to phone people. It happens mid call after I've use the phone for awhile.
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that sounds like normal
my old HTC Athena, gets really hot after long sessions of WiFi, 3G, or GPS, and in the SGS i get similar temperature when using the same stuff.
no heat from Bluetooth, or at least it's not noticeable
but ALL cell phones gets hot after long voice conversations.
Some times
Allways when im playing games my SGS gets pretty hot but not in AC .
From the troubleshootig section of the manual -
Your device is hot to the touch
When you use applications that require more power or use
applications on your device for an extended period of time,
your device may feel hot to the touch. This is normal and
should not affect your device's lifespan or performance.
It gets quite hot sometimes. Battery might rise from 33C in idle to around 45C on load.
I think it is the GPS chipset doing really weird calculations. That happened to me in the hardest math classes in college. Whenever I was totally lost and clueless about something during a calculus test I'd always get nervous and hot and sweaty.
Never killed me tho. I think the SGS will be fine even while hot.
I had the VIbrant for a week now.. i can't really say its gotten hot... maybe once.. but its not something severe, because i can't really remember how hot it was...
but from my research... iPhone4 is doing it, people complained they couldn't hold it close to their face while talking..... All the 1ghz SnapDragon's been doing it...there has been reports of the device too hot to even charge....even the underlcocked Acer Liquid E....
I've actually overused it the first few days...i can't really recall this happening to my phone...
Charging with screen on made my SGS rather hot. So now I try to leave the screen off when charging. Come winter that might change, not always a disadvantage to have something hot in a cold car
Seems to get hot in a location around the SIM card area on the phone when charging from USB or AC.
Not worried about it though.
Today try out the Fancy Widget, but later uninstalled it, I already disabled auto refresh everything, but my SGS get overheated and battery down by 50% just in 5 hours.. ......Anyone know why?
charging time
How long does your phone takes to charge ?
Mine takes about 3-4 hour hours on pc usb and about 3 hours on power adapter come with the phone.
My HTC tytn2 with extended battery 2800 only takes 2.5 hours to charge over the pc usb charge.
Mine's getting a little bit hot after trying some 3d games (asphalt i.e, i don't play too much) or clips (few minutes). it seems to have a particular "hot spot" at the portion of the sim card/sd card, the rest of the phone feels quite cool, and i can hold it without any hassle.
Charging the phone at the moment. 42 celcius.
Are you using setcpu? 10 mins ago I was using setcpu and noticed my phone gotten hot suddenly - I didnt do any sort of ocing. Checked the temperature and was shocked to see 53c Uninstalled it and the temperatre returns to a more acceptable level