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How To : Get session based net access for Java Apps

The problem
You have a Java application that makes use of the internet, eg Opera Mini or Google Local Maps, and you are finding that whenever it wants access the net you get prompted with a Yes/No dialog to either allow or disallow it to go through. With Opera Mini, this would occur everytime you clicked on a link to goto another page and in Google Local Maps it would happen everytime you pressed a button to scroll the map. Obviously this gets very frustrating as it slows down your use of the application.
This method of permitting net access each time it is required is known as "Oneshot".
The solution
The other method is "Session" where users are only prompted once per run of the application. However, some ROMs don't have this option under the security settings in the Midlet Manager despite being a newer version.
After much experimentation by a number of users, including myself, we have managed to determine that the rofs_target.zip file found in \Application Data\Tao\intent can be overwritten with one from a ROM where the "Session" option was available and it will give you this option in the ROM you are currently using.
1) Copy the attached cab file to anywhere on your device.
2) Make sure that you are not currently running any Java apps and that Midlet Manager has been closed down.
3) Execute the cab file and wait for it to finish.
4) Start up Midlet Manager and tap and hold on any app icon and then choose Security. Under Net Access you should now see the option of "Session".
Notes
This has only been tested on Wizard ROMs where Tao-Group's intent Midlet Manager is included. Whether it works on other devices that also have the same Midlet Manager has not been determined but other users are certainly welcome to try. The only thing the cab file does is overwrite (or create if it doesn't exist) \Application Data\Tao\intent\rofs_target.zip. It does not touch the registry or any other system related files or folders. As such it shouldn't break anything major if it doesn't work. All you would have to do is delete that zip file.
Having only been a recent "discovery", this method of getting the Session option back isn't refined as of yet. Collectively, we went through at least 3 other ways of doing it first, involving more files and doing it manually, before we arrived at the current cab installation. We may delve deeper into the folder structure found in the rofs_target.zip file to find out which file contains the appropriate setting so that we can make the solution even more compact. As such, this will be an ongoing thread and this post will be updated to include any developments.
Thanks to BAKup, gilbreen, aron7awol, gamescan

A little more information on the options this CAB adds. On a clean install you will get the following options in the Tao Java MIDlet Manager:
Net Access: No, Oneshot, Session (Session is default)
Local Connectivity: No, Oneshot, Session, Blanket (Session is default)
App Auto Run: No, Oneshot, Session (Session is default)
Messaging: No, Oneshot, Session (Oneshot is default)
Multimedia Recording: No, Oneshot (Oneshot is default)
Now, if you already have MIDlets installed you may have to remove them and reinstall to get the new options to show up. Also, you will want to make sure that the MIDlet Manager is NOT running when you install the CAB. Best advice is to do a soft reset and then install the patch immediately on boot. If you're customizing your Extended ROM, then slap it in there.
NOTE: This patch only fixes the security settings issue with the MIDlet Manager. It does not add JPEG support.

Seems to work well enough on the Hermes.
Thanks

Hi newbe from the UK here...
I have a MDA Pro with T-Mobile with the same problem, tried the fix above, copied & installed successfully... but still as before: only "Oneshot" and "No" options!!!
This is driving me insane!
Any help appreciated!

Yey! It works now!!
Just had to uninstall and reinstall the MIDlets and voila!
Reread gamescan's message
Thanks very much to all

Excellent; it works perfectly on my T-Mobile MDA Vario II with Opera Mini.

Hermes with T-mobile UK WM6 update
I was using the cab on my device (T-mobile Vario II) when it was running WM5. Having applied the recent t-mobile WM6 update, I found that the cab refused to install (citing that it was not meant for my device).
Bad times.
However, managed to force it back onto my device by opening the cab in post #2 (java_session_fix_-_june_15_2006.cab) in winzip and extract the file 00cab172.001 from it. I renamed the extracted file as rofs_target.zip and manually placed it in the location in post #1 on the device (\Application Data\Tao\Iintent) - I kept the original one backed up just in case - it was substantially larger than the replacement so you never know.
And now, once again, I can tag applets as having session based net access again!
Good times!

T-Mobile MDA pro now works with sessions
Hi
I spent ages looking for a solution this is great, I use my MDA for Betfair and could not use Betfair mobile as it kept asking for permission every page update, now it just keeps refreshing prices every 5 seconds.
A huge thankyou...
Dave

File Install Problems

Having problems as of late installing certain programs
So far;
Pocket CM (all versions) don't install i can choose the location (and i have tried them all) and then i get an error that it couldn't be done
Bandswitch 2.4.1 just says install was unsuccessful as I click on the cab
Mobile justice - same thing, even after installing certificate
EDIT: another one on the list Reperion same issue as Pocket CM
EDIT #2 Looks like its a problem with either my Storage Card or Transferring to it via Activesync
I have tried moving the cabs to the device and install (instead of the storage card) same thing.
Tried after soft reset..same thing
At first i was going to just go into the individual threads for help, but since its now 3 programs, something is wrong
Trying to see if i am missing anything before doing a hard reset.
Any help would be great

start menu

how do i clear the list of previously used programs as my start list seems to be overloading itself
i get it open once ok then open and its all white ands then i have to scroll forever to find the thing i want

Hi, there is an option in Kaiser Tweaks from Chainfire that does clears the start menu:
Download the KaiserTweak.exe from Chainfires thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333898
Get the newest Kaisertweak.xml from Nikagls thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349009
Copy both files on your storage card e.g. in Program Files\KaiserTweak and run the exe: Go down the tweak list to Tools / Empty Start Menu, enable it and do a soft reset.
And there are alot of other great tweaks in this program, very easy to use. Be aware many tweaks need a soft reset afterwards to work.
!!! Many thanks to Chainfire and Nikagl !!!
Greetz,
Hans Olo

yeah i was hoping i could do that without installing something else as i think HTC plus created the problem in the first place

Hmm, I never heard of the start menu entry for previously used programs can overload itself. Mine has a maximum of 6 entries and the oldest entry gets overwritten by the newest. Sorry, seems I cannot help you with that overload issue, but I am sure there will be someone in this great forum.
Nevertheless, give KaiserTweak a try. It don't has to be installed (just copied) and it is a tool to easily optimize registry settings. A must have in my opinion, but of course it's to you... ;-)
Hans Olo

I took it a step further and manually hard reset the device clearing all the data and resetting everything
I did not have much on it, plus everything is backed up anyway.
All sorted now.

Can't install gmail.jad midlet on Kaiser...

Anyone managed to install gmail.jad from gmail.com/app on Kaiser?
I've tried 3 different jvms - to no avail... Results in error messages saying the .jad is invalid. Kaiser not supported yet?

do you have a midlet manager installed?
install the attached file and then try to install your java based app.

grandpareza said:
do you have a midlet manager installed?
install the attached file and then try to install your java based app.
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Thanks man,
Of course I do, I tried 3 different ones: Intent, IBM MIDP 2.0 and Esmertec JBed and none of these worked. Those were the midlet managers that gave the error messages actually...
Just tried your version of Esmertec JBed, and I WAS ABLE TO INSTALL the gmail.jad midlet with the help of it! Still it won't run for some reason though... Guess I gotta do some more digging...
Thanks!

Have you made any progress in your search?
I had a similar issue with the IBM MIDP a while back, so I'm interested to see if how you've fixed the problem.

Do you happen to use Dutty's ROM?

I just installed this one to test and it worked for me on my Kaiser.
http://el8.org/gmail.jad
ROM: NoThrills WM 6.1 WWE *English* V3 - The first ROM with the brand new OS build 19202!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379411
Esmertec Jbed Build ID 20080222.3.1

you, sir, are a genius
where did you find that jad file???? i've been looking for a version of the new gmail applet (1.5.0) that would work with jbed and i couldn't find it ANYWHERE.
i have no idea where you got that file, but please accept my sincere thanks!

Your welcome. I did a search on Google for the following: gmail.jad
I found the link for that file on the last hit of the first page of results.

I can confirm it works on a Mio Digiwalker A501 as well
thx!

i cant install GMAIL applet. it asks if i want to install the unsigned applet but neither YES, no NO Buttons work.

Try this one

what does JBed3dMod_RU_FIX.zip do?

it installed.. just needed internet connection

can't find application
Hello! I successfully install the gmail.jar file and it runs quite well on my htc touch cruise. My problem is that after I close the application I can't find it anywhere in my file browser. The only way I can restart the app is to chose to reinstall the cab file, and then cancel the installation. After that it puts me to a folder called "Java" and there I can see the app and able to start. I think I should run Gmail through the previously installed the Cloudyfa_EsmertedJbed but I'm not able to find where it is installed on the device. Not even the search function is able to find it. Forgive me for being such a lamer and please help me !

qiuness said:
it installed.. just needed internet connection
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What did you do to fix this? I've tried multiple times to install the Gmail application but it can never connect stating that it needs a Data Connection.

Mine just is stuck on "loading".... too bad because it used to work. I am on a kaiser as well.

ranger47 said:
Mine just is stuck on "loading".... too bad because it used to work. I am on a kaiser as well.
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co-sign, same here. Any ideas?

i use it all the time on my kaiser with no problems.
goto gmail.com/app in PIE (only works in PIE) and follow the instructions. It auto downloads an appropriate jad. Has worked every time for me, regardless of rom (currently Dutty's 29/04)

It installed perfectly fine for me thru PIE, however (for the guy that couldnt find the install location programfiles>java>Gmail)
but it wont connect, cant seem to get into any settings or anything either.
Was hoping this would work better then setting up gmail thru the mail client, when looking for certain emails w/ attachments and ****, the regular client doesnt have enough options.
Anyway anyone else get this weird need data connection error?
Obviously i have a data connection.

siemi1 said:
Try this one
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I was having lots of problems installing and then it would get stuck on loading. I used this jbed and it now works perfectly! thanks. I uninstalled the old one. I did some searching and didn't get a good answer - is there a way to hve multiple instances running?

how do you install .net compact framework 3.5 on you HTC?

i ccan't figure this out does anyone can tell me the procedure?
were to download and how to install??

Do a search. on either google or on this forum before asking plz.
This question has been answerd before.
But sins there was no thread that was acualy called like your question ill post the answer and maby next time when someone search they will defenetly find the answer
Go to the link below and download the program and install it on your computer.
When its done it will install it on your phone aswell. (so keep it connectded to the computer while you install it)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Go here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en
If you read the instructions, it will tell u.
This package uses ActiveSync 4.0 to update the device. Before running NETCFSetupv35.msi, connect your device to your PC. If your device is not connected, ActiveSync will store the CAB file and will not install the package until you connect. If you are not using ActiveSync, run the CAB files on the device that correspond to the device–specific CAB files found in the install folder.

For now, it's not possible to download directly the cab file from MS site

google for the following files:
- NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab
- netcfcfg.cab (saves yourself from editing registry)
You will identify trust-worthy locations easy

Easier than you can imagine.
Search MODACO forum ( www.modaco.com ) NETCFCFG.cab and NETCFv35.vm.armv4i.cab
Install both and you will have a simple application in program menu to choose between net 2.0 and 3.5. DONE
You can also choose to use 2.0 for some applications and 3.5 for other

thnks y´all i found it on modaco, got it worked!!

pls help, I can't install it
it writes: "installation error. stop all applications and processes, maximize available storage space, and run installation again. Support info: 3"
I cant even uninstall it, and I get this msg always

"installation error. stop all applications and processes, maximize available storage space, and run installation again. Support info: 3"
Solution: I kill Kaiser Notification and then I can install .NET Framework without this problem. This app. using .NET Framework.
So I think the solution is in closing/killing all running applications.

What is the "kaiser notification"?
I have the same install error.
Thank you.

i have the same installation error as the last two posters. i tried killing every program i can and i still get the error

me too !......still can not install netcf v3.5 !!

After 2 days searching high & low through internet all discussion session, still can not find a solution. Therefore I made a self tracing and tried all kinds of method, at last I found a solution without doing a hard reset !!
rename mscoree.dll under windows\ to mscoree.dll.txt
re-install netcf v3.5
no more any error code comes up
thats it !!

I am running a tytn II, with the same problem. Install, i get the error. I can't uninstall, atleast not when I try through the 3.5 installer (remove or repair) or the "remove programs" on the kaiser.
I have hard reset the phone 2x,and regardless of whether I am installing from the exe or the cab file on the phone, still get the same error as everyone else.
This past time, i tried changing the name of the mscoree.dll under windows\ to mscoree.dll.txt and mscoree35.dll to mscoree35.dll.txt
same problem. I'm really beyond annoyed. Can someone help?

have a sprint diamond, how do i check which version i have and if its the newest?
it seems like all the programs i try and install say it requires a newer version than the one installed on the device but its only a month old so im not sure.. any help would be great..
thanks!!

I have the same question. I've searched all over and can't find an explanation of what .Net 3.5 is or how to find out if I have it already. I have a Sprint (CDMA) HTC Touch Diamond. Thanks.

I had the same problem on my HTC Kaiser, but I found a solution.
I found a program that acts like safe mode on a computer.
So if you install that program and restart in safe mode (you need to select safe mode when you boot), you will be able to install the compact framework 3.5.
Probable some locked files prevent the normal installation.
The program is an evaluation version, limited to 14 days, but since you only need it for the framework, you don't need to keep if you don't want to.
The app: SafeMode 3

...still not working on my touch diamond.
i've renamed the dll and tried the safe mode app. But I still get the same error.
btw: i have this problem since i installed a cooked rom.

Thanks. Was also having the install issue (I had previously installed and then removed 3.5 but good old ms clearly didn't remove correctly).
Renaming mscoree.dll worked (I tried mscoree2.5.dll before but that didn't work as it was in use so I couldn't rename that).
Glad it worked, was facing dropping back to previous backups or installing a task manager to kill processes (a good task manager program will show all your processes), just to reinstall 3.5.

another thing that goes wrong with the 6.5 wm and tf3d installed:
when you go to the movies, and you put your phone into vibrate, with the left volume keys, the phone goes into vibrate fine,
but when you set it back to full volume, the next time someone calls, it only vibrates, you have to go to: Settings, Sound and change the ringtone manualy to make it ring again...
Sorry, Wrong Forum...