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Opera browser

is there a difference between opera mobile and opera mini browser? is it worth the extra money to buy opera mobile instead of using the free opera mini?

Opera mini is a java app, though it is pretty good, I would say even better than opera mobile. But, it might have problem running on some devices depending on which java client the device uses.

would opera mini be just as good as opera mobile on my kaiser?

i recommend opera mobile since it installs as a program which can also be set as your default browser. Opera mini is a java app which is not added as a default browser and you have to load the java app to get to it.

if i was to buy the current opera mobile version, and opera 9 comes out, would i have to buy opera 9 as well, or would opera allow me to upgrade for free?

Opera 8.65 has been "finally" released few days ago.
However, it has few problems with license/registration if you check their website.
As for Opera 9, I am not sure if it will be released this year (or ever be released!).
Opera Mobile 9 = Duke Nukem Forever

I use Opera Mini 4 beta 2 and I must say: best browser ever. Sure, it's a bit anoying that you have to launch the Java app first, but you quickly forget about it when you work with the browser. Perfect experience I must say.

Maarten,
Which midlet manager do you use? JBed?
Can you download files using Opera Mini? I often download .3GP files from the internet
How is the performance when browsing a large site? I found PIE sucks in this area, often stuck and I have to soft-reset.

gogol said:
Maarten,
Which midlet manager do you use? JBed?
Can you download files using Opera Mini? I often download .3GP files from the internet
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Yes
How is the performance when browsing a large site? I found PIE sucks in this area, often stuck and I have to soft-reset.
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Much better than PIE.
I alo recommend that you ALL follow the General forum ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=256 ) in here as I've answered all the questions asked in this thread there in my Opera Mini 4 beta 2 review ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326368&highlight=Opera+Mini ) and WM Web Browser Bible ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301009 ).

Last time I used Opera mini I couldn't make a backup of or restore my bookmarks. That's really annoying, when you want to restore a backup or install a new ROM. The pro is that is reduces the internet traffic. Opera mobile is much better when internet traffic is not important.

If I have Pixelbrowser - would adding Opera Mini be redundant ?
Would you just add Opera Mobile for better default support ?

I just installed Opera Mini, and ... it works fine! fast! and nice!
I also created a shortcut and hack the security warning according to this info:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
Then I changed the "IE button" to load Opera Mini
I like it so much
But there are several things I dont like:
1. When I download .3GP from a link, it will be picked up by Internet Explorer Why cant Opera handle that? I mean asking to download and save ...
2. The browsing History is displayed in the Startup Screen! Can this be disabled?
Anyone know how to fix them?

Maarten_0031 said:
I use Opera Mini 4 beta 2 and I must say: best browser ever. Sure, it's a bit anoying that you have to launch the Java app first, but you quickly forget about it when you work with the browser. Perfect experience I must say.
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What is the difference between mobile and mini (feature wise)?

gogol said:
Then I changed the "IE button" to load Opera Mini
I like it so much
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How!!!???? Please tell!!! I have it loading my midlet manager - but I don't know how to do this.
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FYI To do it create a shortcut in notepad on your PC and copy it over to your Start Menu with :
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_
where s*_ is the number in the menu where opera is... brilliant!

opera mini in full screen

is it possible to use opera mini4 in full screen. I'm using the latest advanced download with the jbed download. Everything else works fine.
snowgum

snowgum said:
is it possible to use opera mini4 in full screen. I'm using the latest advanced download with the jbed download. Everything else works fine.
snowgum
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Have you read my OM-related articles? In there, I've explained how you can switch OM to full screen mode: bring up the SIP and press Ctl + *.
(You MIGHT also be ablke to do the same on the thumbboard - dunno, haven't tested it. It works on the Universal.)

ive got the esmertec jbed version and opera mini just loads fullscreen by default didnt have to do anything to make it do it

Hi
How can I bring up the SIP being opera showed?

I've got a similar problem. I have an htc kaiser. I'm enjoying opera mini very much. I've read the bible mentioned earlier, but I'm not sure how to bring up the SIP (presumably this is the soft keyboard) from opera mini4. I'm not at all experienced i'm afraid, being something of a newbie, so any very simple guidance would be really helpful. I was very proud that I managed to follow the instructions on making a shortcut and getting rid of the security questions though!
Thanks in advance
snowgum

Touch screen web browser

There is something about me that doesn't like using Internet Explorer. On my phone (Sony Ericsson K850i) I use the Opera Mini 4 Beta browser and love the way that it renders sites and you can zoom in and out etc...
I installed Opera Mobile on my HTC hoping that it would be exactly the same as mini but I was very disappointed Not only does it not have the text for the soft keys but it doesn't accept touch screen inputs for pressing links and text boxes. Also you don't have the zoom in/out function so you have to see a fully rendered screen or and "everything on one column" rendering that cripples the content.
Is there a decent browser for Windows Mobile? What I am looking for is something that works exactly like Opera Mini but with more compatibility with flash etc...
Any ideas?
At the least I would like to be able to install Opera mini but it comes as a .jad file (Java Midlet?). Is there any way of installing these as my Kaiser doesn't know what to do with the file atm.
Thanks for any help
Oliver

There must be someone out there who uses a browser that they're happy with?
Is there a version of Opera that works with the touch screen?
Thanks

You don't have Java on your phone? Opera mini is free and it is a Java Midlet so you could try and see how you like it without spending any money. There is another free browser that I have called Minimo.
LINK to direct CAB download-- http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It isint the perfect browser either but it does alot of what Opera does and lets you set it with preferences too. Give it a shot and see what you think. Don't like it just remove. I will look on my phone to see if I can extract the Java .exe for you.

I use netfront 3.3 its got better functions than PIE and its back and forward functions using your D-pad is very usefull. as for opera if you want it to scroll like opera mini just enable touch and grab on opera v8.65. it will select links as opera mini does it just wont zoom in like opera mini

Ceck out the articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers

picsel browseris my fav. look around enough and you'll find it

Thanks for the replies!
I'll definitely have a look round for the browsers you mentioned.
I would much appreciate it if you could provide a Java app to enable Java on my phone too
BTW, I'm using Schap's latest ROM if that helps.

Im a bit confused here about the op. Am I the only person that has a copy of Opera Mobile that does everything that the op said it doesn,t do? Which version of Opera mobile did you try? I use O.M on my kaiser and everything you said it doesnt do, mine does.. Ive got touchscreen interactivity aswell as touch scrolling, i can zoom in and out, 3 can resize the screen format to desk top,just fit and one column. Im runing Opera mobile 8.65 for Windows Mobile Pocket PC. By anychance did you accidentily download the smartphone version?

As above - op must have downloaded opera instead of opera-mini...
I'm posting using o-m and must say it's one of the best if not best browser for the wm platform

WOW!
Just installed Picsel and I love it.
The GUI is a bit dodgy but that's cos it's designed for the clie but I love everything else.
Thanks
(Bit of an effort to find a download though)

Ah, I downloaded the Smartphone version. That's prob why I don't have the touch screen thingy.
BTW Subliminal, there is a difference between Opera Mini and Opera Mobile. Opera Mini is what I have on my Sony Ericsson k850i and I would have thought that Opera Mobile worked similarly. It does all the same things but not as smoothly as Opera Mini.
Opera Mini is for Java based phone apps. Opera Mobile is for WM platform.

Opera Mobile has more functions (I think?)
but one main difference is that Opera Mini is free whereas opera mobile isn't.
A direct shortcut can be created to launch opera mini without the need to load the java midlet first. A quick hex edit can skip the connection permissions and another quick tinker can allow direct links from emails to open in opera mini. Sounds more work than it is.

Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming

I've just downloaded opera mini 4 and have installed it onto my phone.
I have one querey.......
when I was instaling it and when I first used it, it say
this program is connecting to .......port 1080...... requires airtime..... you maybe chaged.....
does this mean my phone isn't using the wifi connection when im running opera mini 4?

picsel browser???
here is the link for picselbrowser i just keep on posting it and be quick if you want it
posted it at rapidshare 4 times allready and it keeps getting removed somehow lol
http://rapidshare.com/files/73569495/Picsel_Browser.cab.html

dolbe said:
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
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I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(

MonteCristoffOn said:
I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
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It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.

dolbe said:
It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
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Mmmm... don't reach the solution ;-( , even after modifying the browser settings. Always the same message...
"Cannot load page. Check that you are properly connected to the network. Type : TCP connect"
dolbe, can you give me your settings for this great browser ?

MS DeepFish is the best browser I've seen yet. It's in Beta for now though and has limitations. It's similar to Iphone's Safari - which is great.

Opera Mobile 9 will support zooming, just like Opera Mini. I asked Opera for a release date, but they won't say anything. It's supposed to be released "soon".

Java

hi have 2 questions,
which java program is used by orange.uk?
where can i get it or other recomened java for tytn II?
all links for java downloads ive found are broken or removed due to licenseing issues

Here you go http://www.mediafire.com/?ihyz5mdgkdz

Thanks
Morst greatfull, is it availble without opera?

jr_enver said:
Morst greatfull, is it availble without opera?
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It may be i just haven't searched for one sinceI use opera mini whenever im on edge

who wouldn't want opera? it's wonderful

don't know if this one works but you can try it
http://www.4shared.com/file/83811628/e218d9e7/Intent_MIDlet_manager.html

Thanks again
Opera mobile is great, but doesn't run BBC Iplayer on my phone(all about SkyFire) and Opera mini.......not so much great

thanks for the posts
tried the java program from kaiserII101. downloads and installes fine but doesn't run the apps.
does anyone have a link to Esmertec Jbed without opera

help. i want to set opera mini as my main browser.

i searched some threads but havent found anything.
does somebody know how to do it?
want to sync for example the push pages on tf3d that they will open with opera mini...

Ive often wondered if this is possible. I always assumed it wasnt as its a program within a program ie, you open the java program the you open opera mini. I remember seeing some code somewhere once so you can just click on one icon and it opens up both java then opera in one fell swoop. Im just about to go to work so i dont have time to search for it...

Opera mini can support x1?

kenang83 said:
Opera mini can support x1?
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Off course it does !

kenang83 said:
Opera mini can support x1?
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yes, totally both 4.2 and 5.0 beta which im loving it more than opera 8.65 and 9.7

I'm afraid it is not possible.

alright, would have been nice, but its not a big thing.
i'll start it the old fashioned way with the icon in the programs-tab.

wooooooowww, opera mini 5 is the god browser, when it got finished and take back the download manager(`cause every time you try a download it redirect you to i.e) it will be perfect, loving it, much more than i.e and opera...
i wish setting opera mini as defaut is really possible...