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Song Sort Order in Audio Manager

I've recently started using HTC's Audio Manager instead of Windows Media on my Tytn II, and I like everything about it except the way it sorts songs on an album. All of my songs are tagged with '01', '02', etc. in the beginning of the song title, and Windows Media correctly understands this and puts the songs in the order they appear on the album. However, Audio Manager only orders the songs in alphabetical order regardless of the order the songs appear on the album (even though the tags exist that should make them sort correctly). Anyone else notice this? Is there a fix for this?

i got the same problem...anyone know how to solve this?

audio manager track listing
yep, couldn't agree more- audio manager is great and with an 8gb sd card- i have an iphone killer. however the track listing problem really pisses me off. anyone got any ideas out there?

someone on this forum said that there is a new version of audio manager on the touch dual which doesn't have that bug anymore but i haven't seen it here yet...

When you originally rip the files on your PC the mp3 files have to have the track number information associated with them.
Go back to the files on WM player on your PC and right click then open 'Advanced Tag editor' ( the standard tags are being replaced) to change the track number or simply right click on the album and use 'Find Album info' as it will do all this for you.
Hope this helps.

Farsquidge said:
When you originally rip the files on your PC the mp3 files have to have the track number information associated with them.
Go back to the files on WM player on your PC and right click then open 'Advanced Tag editor' ( the standard tags are being replaced) to change the track number or simply right click on the album and use 'Find Album info' as it will do all this for you.
Hope this helps.
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we meant the htc audio manager not the wmp...wmp is working fine...the mp3s are tagged correctly...

xAcEx said:
we meant the htc audio manager not the wmp...wmp is working fine...the mp3s are tagged correctly...
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Yeah but did you know WM pocket player uses 'old' tags and HTC's uses the new advanced v2 ?? (that's why I mentioned them!!)
Soz you will even find this prob in early versions of TCPMP.
Just trying to help.

Try dutty's htc audio manager:
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robertlewisca said:
I've recently started using HTC's Audio Manager instead of Windows Media on my Tytn II, and I like everything about it except the way it sorts songs on an album. All of my songs are tagged with '01', '02', etc. in the beginning of the song title, and Windows Media correctly understands this and puts the songs in the order they appear on the album. However, Audio Manager only orders the songs in alphabetical order regardless of the order the songs appear on the album (even though the tags exist that should make them sort correctly). Anyone else notice this? Is there a fix for this?
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I think this is the same version as above, but I can guarantee it works as you want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1656801&postcount=448
This is really a useful app now. I just ditched WMP out of my cube.
-R

Cover Art?

Does anyone know how TF3D loads cover art? Only a couple of my songs ever seem to have any art visible...

Ok; I've figured out how TF3D displays cover art - it completely ignore the hidden "AlbumArt**" files created by a WMP synch and uses the album art "embedded" in the file itself. Copying album art into your clipboard and "pasting" it in WMP (Right click on a song and left click on "Paste Album Art") tags the file with the album art in such a way that TF3D shows it. The next question then is how to do that en masse... Any suggestions?

SolusCado said:
Ok; I've figured out how TF3D displays cover art - it completely ignore the hidden "AlbumArt**" files created by a WMP synch and uses the album art "embedded" in the file itself. Copying album art into your clipboard and "pasting" it in WMP (Right click on a song and left click on "Paste Album Art") tags the file with the album art in such a way that TF3D shows it. The next question then is how to do that en masse... Any suggestions?
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It also picks up the folder.jpg file so if you keep that in each album's folder, you'll have all your album art.

Not work for me...
I'm putting my music into folders divided to Artist and in each artist folder there are folders with albums and music.
For example:
\Internal Storage\Music\Dream Theater\Falling Into Infinity\files.mp3
and for cover art:
\Internal Storage\Music\Dream Theater\Falling Into Infinity\Falling Into Infinity.jpg
But no covers.
What I'm doing wrong?
I don't want to put all my music into one folder! And all mp3 tags in files are OK.

OK, after a lot of experimentation, these are the steps that work perfectly for me.
Open WMP
Select all songs in the album, then right click -> Find Album Info
Select the appropriate information; this will define the album art
Select Sync and drag the album there
Synchronize
Reset Diamond
Voila - your album should be on the phone, with the album art as well.
Good luck!

pedmond said:
Open WMP
Good luck!
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Thanks, but I don't want use WMP for managing my music files. I'm looking for simple solution, without playlist, just to put files to any place i want, put jpg file with album cover and that is it. Just copy/paste. Without syncing with WMP and all other crap players.

DilbertZG said:
Not work for me...
I'm putting my music into folders divided to Artist and in each artist folder there are folders with albums and music.
For example:
\Internal Storage\Music\Dream Theater\Falling Into Infinity\files.mp3
and for cover art:
\Internal Storage\Music\Dream Theater\Falling Into Infinity\Falling Into Infinity.jpg
But no covers.
What I'm doing wrong?
I don't want to put all my music into one folder! And all mp3 tags in files are OK.
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You haven't bothered reading the Sticky thread on reading my articles before asking questions, have you? I've answered your q at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415063 , which is also a sticky thread...
All in all, create a Folder.jpg and that's all.

DilbertZG said:
Thanks, but I don't want use WMP for managing my music files. I'm looking for simple solution, without playlist, just to put files to any place i want, put jpg file with album cover and that is it. Just copy/paste. Without syncing with WMP and all other crap players.
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You don't need to sycn with the desktop WMP to have album art either - simple file copy will make sure it's transferred to the handset. Again, I recommend my dedicated bible.

pedmond said:
OK, after a lot of experimentation, these are the steps that work perfectly for me.
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You could have saved the time spent on experimenting by just reading my dedicated bible

Menneisyys said:
You could have saved the time spent on experimenting by just reading my dedicated bible
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Quite a comprehensive article that is... Thank you.
The most important step after copying the files is RESET! For some deep reason, it won't update all the images if you don't do that.

Menneisyys said:
You haven't bothered reading the Sticky thread on reading my articles before asking questions, have you? I've answered your q at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415063 , which is also a sticky thread...
All in all, create a Folder.jpg and that's all.
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Thank you, but i Know everything about ripping music and appopriate tagging. No problem with that.
The most confusing thing for me here was renaming that art image to "folder.jpg". This is confusinf, a named that file like name of the album folder and I see now that names must be exactly "folder.jpg". After renaming and soft-reset, everything is works fine.
Thanks again.

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Thank you, but i Know everything about ripping music and appopriate tagging. No problem with that.
The most confusing thing for me here was renaming that art image to "folder.jpg". This is confusinf, a named that file like name of the album folder and I see now that names must be exactly "folder.jpg". After renaming and soft-reset, everything is works fine.
Thanks again.
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Yup, it's a naming convention with WMP. For example, LCG Jukebox uses another naming convention incompatible with that of WMP.

Hm, I myself had some issues with album art. Not that it aint possible to listen to music without those, but thats not the reason we all bought us a diamond an ruined guarantee within the first 5 minutes.
To the Point: I found many ways in this forum to get my arts to display, but what i did not find is the following:
If you use the covers within the mp3tag (I tagged all of my mp3s with mp3tag) my diamond will show them immediately. BUT ONLY if the tags are ID3v2.3 ISO 8859-1 or ID3v2.3 UTF 16. It will not show on ID3v2.4 UTF 8 or any other non-conform ID Tag.
So if you have tagged your mp3s correctly, theres no need to sync playlists or whatever. Just copy the mp3s to your internal memory, go to the player tab in TF3D and voila, there they are, via a ~htc.cover.jpg or something like that. A soft-reset is unneccessary as well.
Im using Bepes German Rom 0.97_fixed btw.

Music Player not recognizing tags

I have all my music on my SanDisk MP3 players, even checked the tagging under properties in Windows - all the album/artist info is there, even the album art shows up on my MP3 players.
However, when I upload all this music to the G1 - it all reads as "unknown artist" "unknown album" - with no album artwork and no organization of the music...
anyone have an idea?

Very weird, mounted it to the computer, unmounted and went back to music, all working now....

Yeah mine did that as well, must be a bug. Tunewiki is a great music app in the market and it blows away the default music player!!!

Yeah I like Tune-Wiki. I personally, actually really like the default music player on the device. I love the simplicity of it and it just seems to work really well. An equalizer would be nice but thats about the only thing I think it's missing.
I think there is still a bug though, as out of 2,000 songs - I have 849 "unknown" - when I check the songs files they show proper tagging.
I may drop them all into "Tag and Rename" later tonight and see if that does the trick.

I have an issue with the media player not recognizing some of my album art...all of the files are of the same size/type, tags were all created with the same program, yet when I put all the songs on my sd card, only half of the album art shows up.
I'm not one to complain, but if I'm putting in all this EXTRA effort to make my album art show up(not the simple folder.jpg) I'd like it to all work, not just some of it. :-( WTF!

Exactly, I'm having half my album art not show up, and half the songs not being recognized. It sucks.
Yet they were ALL created using the same software and all tagged the same.
I wonder if it's filenames that start with a number, or a syntax issue --- might be worth looking into.

i am having same issue with tunewiki.... i dropped about 15 albums onto the sd card and it recognised only 2 of them- the rest are unknown and all have correct ide tags- checked with 2 different programs!
Do we know if they are working on this issue? I tried to find their contact on the website but got nothing.... fairly useless website actually.
Must be something to do with the G1 though as the default player does the same!

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Yeah I like Tune-Wiki. I personally, actually really like the default music player on the device. I love the simplicity of it and it just seems to work really well. An equalizer would be nice but thats about the only thing I think it's missing.
I think there is still a bug though, as out of 2,000 songs - I have 849 "unknown" - when I check the songs files they show proper tagging.
I may drop them all into "Tag and Rename" later tonight and see if that does the trick.
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i agree about the EQ in the default player.

so does anyone have a fix for the G1 not recognising ID3 tags?

Music Sync Issue (Unknown Artist)

I have searched far and wide through this forum, and also googled it, and there doesn't seem to be an answer, so I will bring it up again. I have imported pretty much all of my music with iTunes, which tagged and organized all my music. However, when I put my music onto my nexus one, many many albums get sorted into "unknown artist" when all of my music is nicely sorted in folders by artists. This seems very strange to me. People have suggested double twist and a few other various programs, but no one has given any input as to whether these programs worked. Does anyone have an answer for this?

As I was looking through the albums that have been filed as "unknown artist" I noticed that each song had a number infront of it as the designation of which song number each song on the album was. I am going to play with this tomorrow and see if editing each track (this is going to suck, I have over 4000 songs in my library!!!!) will help at all.

adamhlj said:
As I was looking through the albums that have been filed as "unknown artist" I noticed that each song had a number infront of it as the designation of which song number each song on the album was. I am going to play with this tomorrow and see if editing each track (this is going to suck, I have over 4000 songs in my library!!!!) will help at all.
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well froyo will have the ability to play music OTA from itunes with an update for the music application in the market after froyo releases. it may fix the problem. if you can wait for a few weeks it may be resolved. as for being put as unknown, maybe the artist is not tagged correctly. check the mp3 tags to make sure that data is there

Your ID3 tags are screwed up. Your filenames don't matter, it's the ID3 tags.
Use MP3Tag (google it), it's one of the best taggers there is.

+1 for mp3tag
been using it for years
I dont let any programs "automatically organize" my music
becareful with it though, if you mass edit something incorrectly you could find that all of your tags get messed up

try music folder on the market

Well, thank you very much for the info! I will look into it today and hopefully get my music all sorted out!

I have the very same problem.
Most of the replies here seem to suggest that retagging the mp3s will solve the issue. However, all of my mp3s were working correctly before I upgraded to Froyo. To confirm this, I've just done a restore to cyanogen 5 and sure enough, all were working fine again.
When I used easytag to fix some of the files, they still didn't show up the correct information under Froyo. So, there's definitely something fishy going on here!

I have similar problems sometimes when there are multiple tags (id2,id3 etc). Using an app to clean the tags and reapply them in a uniform way usually works tho.
A seperate issue tho is embedded albumn art doesnt show up for a couple of albumns. The tags are identical to other albumns that work, and so are the image file types used to create the cover art. Anoying! These are the kind of little niggly problems that make jo public buy an iphone

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I have similar problems sometimes when there are multiple tags (id2,id3 etc). Using an app to clean the tags and reapply them in a uniform way usually works tho.
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What app would you suggest to clean them up? I've tried using MP3Tagger Pro, but I'm a complete n00b at this sort of thing.

I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.

adamhlj said:
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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Thanks for your reply!

adamhlj said:
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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If it makes you feel any better I have over 12000 tracks and some were tagged badly that I pulled from a friemds music library

So I had something strange happen. Ever since I got the update for froyo, all the music on my SD card has been properly tagged (at least it gets sorted correctly by artist, album, etc.) Hooray for FROYO!!

disgustip8ted said:
If it makes you feel any better I have over 12000 tracks and some were tagged badly that I pulled from a friemds music library
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Oh man, that SUCKS!!! i am glad i am not you, lol.

Android music library issues
Hi,
Here is the issue: after installing cyanogenmod 7 on my HD2, I have tranfered about 5Go of music from my pc to the sd card.
The problem is that all these mp3 have proper mp3 tag in ID3 v2.3 in UTF-8, but they are all recognized as "Unknown artists" mp3, and the album is just the folder.
I have tried to transfer an alicia keys album (only a single album) to the phone, also in id3 v2.3, and it is correctly tagged and recognized.
So I've tried to delete de media storage data, and reboot the phone.
At the start up, the system rescan the entirer sd card, but now the alicia keys albums are recognized as "unknown artist" and the album is also just the mp3 folder.
I have the same issue when rescanning with meridian player.
The problem seems to appears only when there are several folder of mp3/large amount of mp3 files to scan ex: >1Gb)
At this point, I've understood several points:
1. android can correctly read mp3 music with tags in ID3 V2.3
2. massive scan of music seems to be the cause of incorrect recognition of mp3 from android.
At this point, is there a way to properly scan mp3 with there tags, even in a massive scan ?

Lyrics don't show up on music app

Hi mates.. i've been struggling to get the lyrics to work.. eventhough i am connected to the internet none of my songs display their lyrics when in lyrics mode.. the app did download, however, the album covers.. when i am on lyrics mode, the lyrics button apeers but dimmed, so i can't select it..
thanks in advance..

Have you enabled it in Music > Settings > Lyrics?

nobnut said:
Have you enabled it in Music > Settings > Lyrics?
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Yes, it is enabled..
do i have to buy the songs or have sound hound pro? they are just some mp3 i had downloaded before..

You don't have to buy anything.
You might have a problem with the MP3 tags in your tracks. If the tag entries are incorrect or missing, then the lookup won't work properly. It also depends on whether there are lyrics available for your songs. You could try a few songs at random to check.
I can get lyrics for approximately 90-95% of my music library.

nobnut said:
You don't have to buy anything.
You might have a problem with the MP3 tags in your tracks. If the tag entries are incorrect or missing, then the lookup won't work properly. It also depends on whether there are lyrics available for your songs. You could try a few songs at random to check.
I can get lyrics for approximately 90-95% of my music library.
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Thanks for the reply.. i think it does knows the songs because it got the album covers.. and the musics are quite normal.. avenged sevenfold, Pink Floyd, James morrison, Alter Bridge, Foo Fighters..
getting a little frustated.. lol maybe it doesn't work on every country?

That's a possibility. Have you tried WiFi and mobile data to download?

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That's a possibility. Have you tried WiFi and mobile data to download?
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yes, both.. :S it connects to GraceNotes but no lyrics at all.. only album art..

It took some time on mine but it eventually came. Just stay on the song until it comes. Some are just plain lyrics you have to scroll through, the other is the entire karaoke experience with auto scrolling background glitter and all that stuff.
Also check your tags with mp3tag, it should be something like "id3v2.3 lyrics" or something
No reason for it not to work

Will.1 said:
It took some time on mine but it eventually came. Just stay on the song until it comes. Some are just plain lyrics you have to scroll through, the other is the entire karaoke experience with auto scrolling background glitter and all that stuff.
Also check your tags with mp3tag, it should be something like "id3v2.3 lyrics" or something
No reason for it not to work
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Well mine's not working, I tried staying on the song, the song finished and the lyrics didn't come , I think that my mp3tags are fine because the album arts were downloaded without any problems..

Hi, I have same experience. I tried hunderds of song a lyric downloading not working. Album arts and photos are downloaded correctly. When I switch on full screen mode, I see visualisation and for a monet message acces to GraceNote.
Thanks for help