I've noticed that when my tilt goes into sleep mode at times when it turn it back on that I can't make a telephone call and microsoft voice command doesn't work at all. Anyone else seen this?
Mine used to not even have cell signal or data signal until a soft reset. Calls would not go through. I almost returned my tilt because of this.
Theres some threads around that talk about the sleep mode causing really bad problems.
I just flashed different roms and changed stuff around. Hasnt happened since.
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Speaking of roms. I've been wanting to try some of Dutty's roms but will it 'brick' my tilt? Is there somewhere in the forums where they take you by the hand and show you how to flash step by step.
Thanks much.
yes it will brick your tilt if you dont know what you are doing, and no, there is no holding hands allowed in xda dev, start by reading the sticky at the top of this forums, read every single link.
No bricking yet..
Hello,
I installed duttys wm6.1.5.2.19700Hybridv2 rom after a few hiccups, and I absolutey love it.
Let's hope that the sleep glitch is fixed on the newer roms.
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Before i begin: I apologise if this is a common issue, I have done a couple of searches but as i dont have access to a computer atm this was done on my kaiser - not very easy. There is therefore a very good chance i have missed the solution if there is one. Please don't flame if this is the case.
Hi, I'm have a constant problem with my kaiser where if i put it into standby it won't come back out. I have made no changes between it waking up successfully and it now not.
I originally had the stock 02-uk rom which never caused me any problems. I then decided to flash to dutty's rom which i'd heard nothing but good things about. this didn't suit me so i reflashed to confused stu's mob vista 1.2 within the day. i decided to stick with this rom. a week later and everytime my phone entered standby it was refusing to come out. the phone could still receive calls but wouldnt show any signs of ringing and wouldnt allow me to answer them. I decided that as i was about to hard reset anyway i'd flash to v1.3 of mob vista. about a week in again and i cant wake the device from standby.
this is beginning to become seriously annoying and time consuming. I'm not sure if its rom related. all i can say is it never happened on the O2 rom but has on both 1.2 and 1.3 of mob vista. I can't comment on dutty's as i didnt have it long enough.
if anyone knows of any existing threads related to this that would be helpful.
Thanks a lot.
Ok i kept searching and found this thread which has the solution.. i think.
Its to do with the USB advanced network funtionality. With it turned on the phone works fine, when its off the phone sticks in standby.
Does anyone know what causes this. I have always had it turned off as my computer doesn't like it and yet i havent had a problem until recently. would it be to do with WM6.1?
I am running stock O2 WM6 ROM on an O2 XDA Stellar with a whole host of applications (Batterystatus, SPB Pocket Plus, phone suite, weather, mobile shell, insight, time, Calendar++, HTC Task Manager, Large Menu, are "running" (ie today plugin or might have started) and I think I killed most other things before I went to bed) and my Kaiser has recently started to crash and I don't know why.
This morning I went to check my phone (which was on charge) and it wouldn't turn on (must have died between 4am and 8am). I hit the power button, then other buttons (just in case), tapped the screen, etc.... and get nothing. Finally whipped out the stylus, prodded the reboot button and waited for it to come back to me. This is the second or third time this has happened over the last two weeks, the other time I remember clearly was when I pulled it out my pocket to find it similarly unresponsive.
When it is restarted it boots happily and everything seems to be running/working fine, but it is kind of concerning that it completely locked up in the first place while I was not using it.
Does anyone know of a way this can happen? Are there any known conflicts that can cause it to lock up? Does WM keep logs somewhere to help track down problems?
i'm also having the same exact problem with my tilt. today i got to work late cause it crashed somewhere along the night and the alarm didn't ring. i woke up 10 minutes before my start time at work. lol. third time it happens in 3 weeks.
I have a Tilt, WM 6.0, and stock ROM and I had the exact same problem... drove me nuts. Have you enabled 'Wifi Standby Mode' using KasierTweak? I enabled that option and when my phone went to sleep with WiFi turned on, it would occasionally crash and refuse to wake up without hitting the reset button.
After disabling 'Wifi Standby Mode' the problem went away. If you have KasierTweak you'll see it listed under the 'Data' entry.
Just a thought. Hope that helps.
jkulbeth said:
After disabling 'Wifi Standby Mode' the problem went away. If you have KasierTweak you'll see it listed under the 'Data' entry.
Just a thought. Hope that helps.
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Nope, was disabled
Am thinking about it and when I was using Garmin for GPS last it rebooted on it's own and I can't get it to get a GPS lock any more. Am wondering if I have actually managed to break the hardware or if this is a symptom of a bigger problem.
Not really wanting to wipe the device, but it will happen when O2 release their ROM update
Thanks for your thoughts, was thinking people were just ignoring me (it's not iPhone/GUI related, so wasn't expecting many replies).
I had the same problem occuring every night, and this was driving me nuts as well.
I've tried many things, like configuring email updates only once a day, disabling wifi while asleep, removing other software that might try to connect to the internet regularly (weather, RSS...), rewrite completely the PhoneAlarm profile schedule parameters
Nothing worked.
I finally removed the PhoneAlarm night switch schedule, and has no problem since.
I'm not sure of this because the parameters has worked fine many month.
Could this help someone there ?
This sounds like the problem many have described as sleep of death or SOD for short. Might give a quick search on sleep of death and see what you can come up with. I cured mine by stopping activesync and comm manager before putting it to sleep.
hope this helps...james
Guys I think you may be Describing the "Sleep of Death." Here is a Thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339792&highlight=Sleep+Death
It is also covered by another thread which has popped up
Standby of Death (SOD) with the Tytn II from Kaiser General (I joined that thread here).
If anyone wants to reply to this thread, please read and use both/either of these two threads (and if mods want to lock this one, that's fine by me).
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 where the resolution was to change SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
This is my las try, I posted this message twice in the XDA forum.
I guess if no one having this issue I'll not bother folks with this again and will try to leave with it...
The problem goes like this, when I'm out of cellular reception area the phone shuts down and the only way to turn it back up is to remove and put back the battery.
I suspect this is some sort of strange power saving setting gone wrong.
Any idea on what can I do about it? Registry settings or something?
ROM: 1.93.831.1
Well, without knowing any better I've have to guess it was a problem with the Radio ROM. Are you using .08 or .11 radio version? If so, I'd try 0.5 - it seems to be the most stable for the majority of people here. I had heaps of problems (random freezes/crashes) when using 0.8 or 0.11 that forced me into a battery removal fix quite a few times...
If you've upgraded your Radio ROM (by itself) then most people suggest doing a hard reset afterwards, even though you don't *have* to, so make sure you try that...
obender said:
This is my las try, I posted this message twice in the XDA forum.
I guess if no one having this issue I'll not bother folks with this again and will try to leave with it...
The problem goes like this, when I'm out of cellular reception area the phone shuts down and the only way to turn it back up is to remove and put back the battery.
I suspect this is some sort of strange power saving setting gone wrong.
Any idea on what can I do about it? Registry settings or something?
ROM: 1.93.831.1
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It happes to my diamond too. Now i've got the lastest rom with latest radio (05) and in a week it happened only one time (before it happens a lot of time during a single day..)..
I've buy a new battery today just to be sure that it not a battery problem. I'll let you know in the next days.
By the way in my case i've see that the phone does not shut down when goes out of signal, but before shutting down i hear a short sound than the signal is missed and then the phone shutdown. Many times i need to wait a lot of minutes to power on the diamond. I've also try to froze the battery in this cases and like a kind of magic it's possibile to power on immediatly the baby. (this is why i've bought a new battery...)
I do also experience this problem, after upgraded my ROM to 1.93.831.1, when I'm out of cellular reception area the phone shuts down by itself.
I bought it to HTC service centre, they say no problem was found but they reload the Rom and replaced a new battery.
The problem still persist when i enter a no Network area, the phone automatically shut down again ...
Any idea on what can I do about it?
Please advise .....
Ummhh. Having the same problem here! Read a PDA Magazine and it says all bugs from Diamond have been removed and thats why Diamond 2 is released!
***BUMP***
Need a fix quick please!
@mod: please can you sticky this for a few day?
found the problem... sent it off two tmobile and they just took the handset not the battery...
they said they found no problem and made no changes.... i received the phone after 1 month and i put the battery in and it worked fine... used it with my car charger and started again so i left the battery out of the phone for 2 days then tried and works fine now.....
I can't get the phone outta sleep mode (I think it is sleep mode), where the screen goes black while being carried, about 50% I can tap the power button and it awakes, all is fine. BUT the half I gotta remove the battery or sim and then press power on button.
Any ideas?
Also how can we run an AV on the phone, my comp don't see it as a drive....
Thanks!
SJ
sleep settings are off.........any ideas?
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I can't get the phone outta sleep mode (I think it is sleep mode),
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Please provide full details of which phone, which ROM/Radio/SPL other software installed etc as these things may help others to recognise what you're experiencing otherwise it's a bit like saying why won't my car start with no other details provided.... so some more detail will help.
When I was running the latest UK HTC WWE WM 6.1 ROM on my HTC Branded TyTN II I sometimes found it took longer than usual to come out of sleep so thinking I'd not pushed the button hard enough, I pushed it again - only to find the screen would briefly flash as it came out of powersaving mode and then it went black again as it went back in - could this be whats happening and how long are you waiting after pushing the button?
Sorry, I got an HTC TyTNII. ROM 1.81.415.4wwe, ROM Date 10/29/2007, Radio 1.27.15.32, Protocol 22.51.88.13H.
Most of the time the sleep mode ends easily, but if I leave the phone to charge it sometimes will give me the issues........
Jim
Funny, that happens to me quite often too. I have Dutty's WM6.1 WWE installed. Also I have the slide2unlock installed on it. The radio version is 1.58.25.17. Even when I don't have the phone on charge at times it does it. I have another AT&T Tilt that only has the Slide2Unlock on it the rest is factory, but sometimes I see that does it also.. Another thing I also experience is that sometimes it'll just restart by itself, but maybe that's to clear up memory or something?
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Funny, that happens to me quite often too. I have Dutty's WM6.1 WWE installed. Also I have the slide2unlock installed on it. The radio version is 1.58.25.17. Even when I don't have the phone on charge at times it does it. I have another AT&T Tilt that only has the Slide2Unlock on it the rest is factory, but sometimes I see that does it also.. Another thing I also experience is that sometimes it'll just restart by itself, but maybe that's to clear up memory or something?
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Search for 'Standby of death'. There is a while thread where people are discussing it. I htink mine may have been caused by some offending software, as I get it much less now once I have uninstalled it.
Thanks kevin!
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2where the resolution was to get a new SIM
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
nlel, please stop going to every "Standby of Death" thread and adding your answer to it. Adding it to one thread is enough, three or more is just overkill, especially when the threads you've been posting to have been dead for months. Thanks,
Dave
I recently falshed the new WM6.1 ROM from the HTC website. The only problem I can't seem to get around is when the phone is locked and put in sleep mode, a few seconds later the screen will flash white for a second. And then periodically blink white. Mainly I don't want to waist precious battery life. Its now driving me insane. I've looked and searched for hours on hours and can't find anything like this.
I've hard reset, soft rest. Got rid of the bloatware. But still got this blink.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
I've came across this several times with many 6.1 roms. I am not sure if a fix exists. However, this has never bothered me. I simply click the power button twice and the blinking stops. Hope this does the same for you.
All The Best.
Same thing happens to me. I will be watching to see what the response is. Bugs me too. No idea how many times that's happening while it's in my pocket or something - not good for battery life and can't be good for the screen either...
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I've looked and searched for hours on hours and can't find anything like this.
I've hard reset, soft rest. Got rid of the bloatware. But still got this blink
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As already mentioned several WM 6.1 ROMs suffers from screen flashes relating to power management issues. Using the latest HTC WWE WM 6.1 ROM the TyTN II will occasionally require two button presses to come out of power saving mode.
If you were happy/happier with the WM 6.0 ROM complain to your ROM provider and if necessary request it be reverted (or read up here and once you know whats required, do it yourself). I don't see any 'new' official ROMs coming for this device now it's comparitively elderly, so I think it'll be up to you to come up with a solution.
HTC has provided an HotFix for that issue at :
AT&T Tilt WM 6.1 Backlight HotFix
But Truely speaking, I installed and it didn't worked for me.
It might work for you, so just give a try.
Regards,
Thanks guys. I'll try the double push of the power button and see if it works, if not I live with it a little longer, till I go mad.
If I can't take it anymore I'll just re-flash to a different ROM.
Once again, thanks for the replies.
By the way the BACKLIGHT HotFix didn't work for me either. I think thats mainly to fix issues with the backlight timer always reverting back to 10 seconds, no matter what the user setting is.