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Autofocus not on all Kaiser models?

I upgraded my AT&T Tilt to Helmi_C's cleaner TyTN II ROM until realizing that some models may or may not have autofocus capability in their cameras.
I read the manual for the TyTN II and it talks about autofocus. Is it a registry setting that I can put back on my Tilt, or is it different camera hardware altogether?
Can anyone dump out their real TyTN II's registry, specifically HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera? Thanks!

BeyondtheTech said:
I upgraded my AT&T Tilt to Helmi_C's cleaner TyTN II ROM until realizing that some models may or may not have autofocus capability in their cameras.
I read the manual for the TyTN II and it talks about autofocus. Is it a registry setting that I can put back on my Tilt, or is it different camera hardware altogether?
Can anyone dump out their real TyTN II's registry, specifically HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera? Thanks!
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Mike

Thanks. Unfortunately, it turned up nothing different from what I already had. Perhaps it's hardware-enabled after all...

have you tried holding down the camera button half way down on the tilt then letting it focus like with most digital cameras?
i have seen my tilt focus when doing that.

BeyondtheTech said:
I upgraded my AT&T Tilt to Helmi_C's cleaner TyTN II ROM until realizing that some models may or may not have autofocus capability in their cameras.
I read the manual for the TyTN II and it talks about autofocus. Is it a registry setting that I can put back on my Tilt, or is it different camera hardware altogether?
Can anyone dump out their real TyTN II's registry, specifically HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera? Thanks!
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You sure? I also have my Tilt running Helmi's BigStorage version and it has autofocus.

Autofocus in kaiser
Hello. What's really the autofocus?.
How can I know that it's operative?.
Thanks.

This might sound stupid but could it be because you have your sound turned off or on vibrate? The reason I ask is because when I first got my Kaiser I thought auto focus stopped working because when I pushed the button half way down it didn't make a noise. It turned out I had it on vibrate and the sound from autofocus was not mechanical as I thought but it is really just a sound from the speaker.

Imanoltxo said:
Hello. What's really the autofocus?.
How can I know that it's operative?.
Thanks.
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Well, aside from any sound setting that may be attached to the focusing operation you can easily see the process on screen. When you take a picture you will notice 1 or both of the following:
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If you use the half press to focus and then full press method to take the picture, then when you half press and pause you will see the white lined centre box on screen turn from white to green when focus is achieved.
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When taking a picture you will see the Centre white on screen box move in and out a little before the picture is taken. This is the auto focus searching for focus.
Mike

Ok.
mikechannon said:
Well, aside from any sound setting that may be attached to the focusing operation you can easily see the process on screen. When you take a picture you will notice 1 or both of the following:
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If you use the half press to focus and then full press method to take the picture, then when you half press and pause you will see the white lined centre box on screen turn from white to green when focus is achieved.
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When taking a picture you will see the Centre white on screen box move in and out a little before the picture is taken. This is the auto focus searching for focus.
Mike
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I have seen this. Thanks.

Aclarado, but as I can remove it?.
mikechannon said:
Well, aside from any sound setting that may be attached to the focusing operation you can easily see the process on screen. When you take a picture you will notice 1 or both of the following:
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If you use the half press to focus and then full press method to take the picture, then when you half press and pause you will see the white lined centre box on screen turn from white to green when focus is achieved.
2
When taking a picture you will see the Centre white on screen box move in and out a little before the picture is taken. This is the auto focus searching for focus.
Mike
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I would remove the autofocus because it takes a long time to make the photo; how can I disable it?. Thank you. An greeting.

Camera is out of focus

Hello : Every time that i take a shot the image is out of focus,
Anyone experience this ?
Solutions ?
Thnks a lot

galinha said:
Hello : Every time that i take a shot the image is out of focus,
Anyone experience this ?
Solutions ?
Thnks a lot
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Umm...with details like that, one could guess anything. Maybe your settings are wrong...maybe dust....maybe anything. Tell us your settings, lighting situation, etc.

Thanks.
Night , day , light...
Settings no mater what i put..
No dust !
Best regards

galinha said:
Thanks.
Night , day , light...
Settings no mater what i put..
No dust !
Best regards
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did u try to take pics with the half press?

The above advice about setting to half press is good. Also remember that the camera has auto focus so the picture is not taken for a second or two AFTER the button is pressed. So keep it steady for a while after taking the picture.
Also the lens cover on the back of the case needs to be spotless. and also clean the lens cover inside the casing near the top of the battery. Cleaning these makes a big difference. Some folk have actually removed the casing filter, but I'm not suggesting you go that far.
Mike

mikechannon said:
The above advice about setting to half press is good. Also remember that the camera has auto focus so the picture is not taken for a second or two AFTER the button is pressed. So keep it steady for a while after taking the picture.
Also the lens cover on the back of the case needs to be spotless. and also clean the lens cover inside the casing near the top of the battery. Cleaning these makes a big difference. Some folk have actually removed the casing filter, but I'm not suggesting you go that far.
Mike
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I already removed the casing filter....
What do you mean by half press....?

galinha said:
I already removed the casing filter....
What do you mean by half press....?
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The camera button is a two position switch. Some folk find that if you have it set to full press for taking photos the finger press has to be so hard (or deep) that the camera moves just as you are taking the pic.
To change this so you only need a gentle press half way down:
Enter the camera menue. Tap on the spanner/wrench symbol and choose half press in the Shoot Option menu.
It might be an idea if you posted a pic here so we can see just what quality you are getting.
Mike

Atached,,,90 % of my pics are like this,

I know that this might sound like a stupid question but did you take off the sticker on the inside of the back battery cover. I know I was taking blurry pictures for a couple of hours and finally noticied there was a tiny sticker on the inside of the battery cover. Just a suggestion.
Adrian

I already removed the casing filter.....

Well, that is badly out of focus! So assuming the lenses are clean and no stickers are in place etc then I would take a picture with the camera sitting on a firm surface. Just to rule out the possibility that it's caused by camera movement. If the pictures are still blurred then I would load up the nadavi camera version. If things remain the same then it is most likely a hardware problem. (As it stands there could be a theoretical software issue with the camera using an excessively long exposure time - something it does a bit anyway, but not as bad as to give the effect you have.)
Mike

It looks like its movement plus it appears that the picture was taken inside and is using the auto lighting.... that can easily slow up the camera.

How to stop camera auto focus and capture instantly

Hello,
It seems that the camera focus made for still opjects, as if I am going to take a picure of friends for example, I have to ask them to stay still for at least 3 seconds!!
What can I do to make it take instant shots as soon as I press the button with no delay of the auto focus..
I emaild HTC, they replied that a representative will look into the matter but they never reply..
Regards

I am not a camera expert but I could explain something for you .
Turn off auto focus just make thing worse. It makes the quality of the picture better. This is why some review websites gave kaiser a thumb up for this auto focus feature.
What you looking for here is shutter speed , not turning off auto focus. The faster the shutter speed, the better pictures you can take ( especially for shaky hand and moving object ). Its so last year that picture of still objects are always better since most of camera out there doesnt have a fast enough shutter speed .
Correct me if I am wrong. I did some good reading about camera on Newegg.com when I was looking to buy a decent camera for my girl .

Check out this thread. You can reduce the time the phone takes between focusing and capturing the image.

Thank you aberz, but the delay is only on the auto focus, its the time that takes [ ] to go from gray [ ] to green [ ]
I have a nokia N95, it has it too, as soon as I click the button, the picture is there with better quality from tytn on the same resolution..
NotATreoFan said:
Check out this thread. You can reduce the time the phone takes between focusing and capturing the image.
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Thank you NotATreoFan, tried it, unfortunately no changes noticed..
The strange thing is that the front camera does not have that delay, it captutures instantly, but of course with very low quality
I will follow up on the thread you mentioned.

ghanem said:
Thank you aberz, but the delay is only on the auto focus, its the time that takes [ ] to go from gray [ ] to green [ ]
I have a nokia N95, it has it too, as soon as I click the button, the picture is there with better quality from tytn on the same resolution..
Thank you NotATreoFan, tried it, unfortunately no changes noticed..
The strange thing is that the front camera does not have that delay, it captutures instantly, but of course with very low quality
I will follow up on the thread you mentioned.
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Front camera does not have the auto focus feature .
Everybody hope their handset come with auto focus camera, just wondering why you want to disable and give up to use it?
Without auto focus , the picture you take will be a blur photo , especially closer items and object.

don't press the camera button. instead push the middle button on the navigation pad just once. the phone will auto focus and immediately take the pic. it's really working out to be the best way to take the pics.

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Everybody hope their handset come with auto focus camera, just wondering why you want to disable and give up to use it?
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Imagine that you want to capture a child smile or lough, you wont be able to ask him to stand still..
Imagine that you went to the zoo and wanted to capture the lion yawn, would you dare to ask him to repat it and stand still
Those are real situations I've been throug
kaluzu said:
don't press the camera button. instead push the middle button on the navigation pad just once. the phone will auto focus and immediately take the pic. it's really working out to be the best way to take the pics.
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Thank you kaluzu, I tried that before posting, I tried also the keep pressing the button, changing to half press, no luck

ghanem said:
Thank you aberz, but the delay is only on the auto focus, its the time that takes [ ] to go from gray [ ] to green [ ]
I have a nokia N95, it has it too, as soon as I click the button, the picture is there with better quality from tytn on the same resolution..
Thank you NotATreoFan, tried it, unfortunately no changes noticed..
The strange thing is that the front camera does not have that delay, it captutures instantly, but of course with very low quality
I will follow up on the thread you mentioned.
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Auto focus = better picture . Auto focus need ... time to focus . I think the quality of the camera affect the time of the auto focus.
Anyway, I use half press mode and it take about 2 secs to get a snap, which is close to my 4 years old Sony cybershot W7 . Half press mode also reduce ( or even eliminate ) the vibration of pushing button , which improve the quality.
To achieve an good quality with instant shot for moving object , I think thats the job for the professional camera. However, I would like to see how things turn out for you.
Kaiser camera wasnt rated good anyway.

aberz said:
However, I would like to see how things turn out for you.
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Thank you aberz, appreciate your concern, I am following up now on the thread NotATreoFan mentioned

For taking better pictures:
1. Hold index finger over camera shutter button
2. Hold thumb over center button on navigation pad
3. Use index finger to half-press and auto focus
4. Use thumb to gently press center button on navigation pad
5. Make sure your lens is clean
6. Try to take the picture in between heart beats. Hard at first but you get used to it.
I used to HATE taking pictures with the tilt, and still carried around my old Sony Ericsson W810i as it's 2mp camera always got the shot I wanted. Took me a while to figure out the above. Hope it helps

ghanem said:
Imagine that you want to capture a child smile or lough, you wont be able to ask him to stand still..
Imagine that you went to the zoo and wanted to capture the lion yawn, would you dare to ask him to repat it and stand still
Those are real situations I've been throug
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Then you should buy a SE K810 with BEST PICTURE instead of kaiser
The Best Picture allow you to shot 9 images at one shoot.

marcatarkon said:
For taking better pictures:
1. Hold index finger over camera shutter button
2. Hold thumb over center button on navigation pad
3. Use index finger to half-press and auto focus
4. Use thumb to gently press center button on navigation pad
5. Make sure your lens is clean
6. Try to take the picture in between heart beats. Hard at first but you get used to it.
I used to HATE taking pictures with the tilt, and still carried around my old Sony Ericsson W810i as it's 2mp camera always got the shot I wanted. Took me a while to figure out the above. Hope it helps
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Thank you for sharing
belon_cfy said:
Then you should buy a SE K810 with BEST PICTURE instead of kaiser
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I am waiting for XPERIA™ X1

This really could be help for me. This 3 second delay is killing me.

ghanem said:
Thank you kaluzu, I tried that before posting, I tried also the keep pressing the button, changing to half press, no luck
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you may want to update the camera software to the latest (search on Navdav) and also add the HTC Album the latest version before trying this again. It works like a charm for me.

kaluzu said:
don't press the camera button. instead push the middle button on the navigation pad just once. the phone will auto focus and immediately take the pic. it's really working out to be the best way to take the pics.
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That works awsome thanks a million.
Ron

mark43 said:
That works awsome thanks a million.
Ron
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Really?? I tried it . It works the same way as pressing the camera button. Still about 2 - 3 secs delay. Tilt camera truly sucks.

the camera needs to auto focus. but this way it does take the snapshot right after it autofocused. indoors, of course, will take longer to autofocus.
since I used this function ALL my pix afre much better.
Listen, nobody says the camera on Tilt is on par with a 10 MP Cybershot.....But the pix it takes in daylight are awesome. maybe you need to clear your lenses, or even crack the cover to remove any obstruction between the internal lens and outside (like I did). THAT really make a difference....

[Q] Camera not working (or im an idiot)

Has anyone got problems with their camera not working?
I press the camera button and nothing happens, if I am in the camera app and press it, it focuses but then does nothing. No picture is taken. It is the same with this and video recorder.
I should point out that the button is not broken, it depresses, and the camera application reacts by beeping, but a photo is never taken (or a video for that matter)
I have an O2 Uk HD7. I'll call HTC soon, but thought Id start a thread to see if others have a similar prob.

LOL. Im an idiot.
The button is a 2 stage button, 1 for focus' and then harder for the actual photo.
BAH!

I take no shame in admitting I did the same thing

Oh good, im glad im not the only one We can blame the button being a bit too hard!

I did the same thing! And I'm aphotographer. The button is a bit hard and you have to press it all the way down for it to take ths pic. plus the button is on an angleed surface, you have to press it at an angle for it to work right.

It also wont work if the proximity sensor is activated, like when it's in your pocket

lol I did the same thing. For the life of me I could not figure out how to take a picture. But I eventually figured it out. Btw, when your phone is off just hold the camera button for a few seconds and the camera will come up. Pretty neat feature.

I had this issue too. The camera button is quite flush with the device. I've missed a couple of shots because of this. Not a big deal. Just have to get used to it. I'm just glad to have a dedicated camera button.

Yet another idiot calling!!!
Thanks guys, I had the same problem lastnight. So that's one hitch sorted..... Now for the ringtones!!!

Yeah. I'm no idiot (most of the time) and I have to say, it took me a few snaps to get it down and it's still a little difficult. Bottom line is the button doesn't make it real easy at all. In fact, it's a primary contributor to a few crappy shots I've taken.

same stupd user i was. finaly i got it - but the result in sharpness is big bad difference in relation to hd2.

I tried to take a quick pic of my parking place in a parking garage today, I'm a left-handed and I keep my phone in my left pant pocket, I was being rushed by my friends and tried to take a pic of the sign but I was blocking the proximity sensor. I realized this at the last moment and managed to snag a blurry shot as the elevator doors opened. I'll need some more time with this phone to get used to that.
But at least I don't have any pictures of the inside of my pockets.

I was on the phone with TMobile setting up a warranty exchange for my busted camera when I discovered this thread. Camera not busted luckily. Strange setup. Work around I noticed was holding the button softly then pressing power.
ckacey said:
I tried to take a quick pic of my parking place in a parking garage today, I'm a left-handed and I keep my phone in my left pant pocket, I was being rushed by my friends and tried to take a pic of the sign but I was blocking the proximity sensor. I realized this at the last moment and managed to snag a blurry shot as the elevator doors opened. I'll need some more time with this phone to get used to that.
But at least I don't have any pictures of the inside of my pockets.
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Well the camera is actually of not a very good quality. Some pictures are truly sharp but for that many things like light, angles and luck have to come together. And ofcourse the button adds to the miserable pics.

Cameras not all working?

Recently bought the phone off Amazon and started messing with the cameras and noticed i could have my fingers over the top and bottom camera on all modes and zoom one each and it never used them? Did I get a faulty phone or am I using something wrong?

DizzyOnion426 said:
Recently bought the phone off Amazon and started messing with the cameras and noticed i could have my fingers over the top and bottom camera on all modes and zoom one each and it never used them? Did I get a faulty phone or am I using something wrong?
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I heard this and think it is true for the P9 too, but I've learned some things since then. There are a lot of modes and resolution combinations. Try the basics first. Top cam is only zoom. Bottom is B&W.
For example, I cannot shoot with finger over zoom lens after choosing 3x zoom in Photo mode and waiting for the zoom lens to kick in (the image stabilises once the zoom lens is active).
I would try with and without AI, with different resolutions and with different modes. I just tried night mode on 10mp and covered the B&W sensor, so maybe it's all a big scam.

Thought the same first but now im sure all of them are working fine .
The phone can only use two cameras at once anyway to my knowledge .
When you zoom in good lighting it will switch to telephoto cam ( top cam ).
When you shoot in bw it will use monochrome .
When the phone tells you to stabilize fot sharpening it will trigger the monochrome sensor too .