Just wondering if anyone can share there experiences with the exchange program through att..like what HAVE you gotten away with and what HAVENT you gotten away with and got slapped with the $500 charge lol
I followed the the warranty return thing on this forum, and I got no problem. I had seriously scratched the screen of the phone. I told the manager before sending it to quote she said its "normal wear and tear." But my speaker of the phone was messed up. On that same phone the void button and some ddamage as I was playing with it, I didn't what it was, until I found out later that its to open up the phone.
So, I got away with two major linear scratches on the screen which made writing with the stylus impossible. And I had damaged the button. But I told the manager of this before I sent it in. Or the High_end PDA department.
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Just wondering if anyone can share there experiences with the exchange program through att..like what HAVE you gotten away with and what HAVENT you gotten away with and got slapped with the $500 charge lol
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what did they find wrong with the phone???
i just sent one they sent me, the first time, i put it into the boot loader and noticed that the SPL was HardSPL, it scared me a little and well the screen cracked while i was looking at it an hour later, the phone rang so i looked and the caller ID and suddenly there was a broken screen on my tilt. not sure if they are gonna say anything about hard SPL but it came that way.
(part of me hopes i was holding someones old phone from this site)
oh yeah and this probably shoudn't be in ROM developement, ask a mod to move it to general
oh im just wondering..i was reading a post about putting the old att spl back on for an exchange and someone replied about how theyve returned 6 tilts with major problems all of which should fall outisde of warranty so i just thought id ask as i have a slight problem myself but its not keeping my kaiser from working and i opened a ticket with HTC directly as they dont screw you if you fall outside of warranty...my usb charger was getting a full contact and i had to bend it up and down to get it to stay charging (shoulda just sent it in then lol) and finally the plastic seperator of the pins broke out and then i bent in a pin a few times and that broke off..so i opened it up and soldered it back in and it eventially popped off again so i was thinking i could just squeeze the plastic piece that broke off back in as it wont come out unless you use needle nose pliers and sliding that pin back in..
I did a warranty return not to long ago. Phone was stuck with the radio from hell 1.65.17.10 and didn't have the friendly FrankKaiser that Jockyw2001 developed. Never had an issue with AT&T saying that I had altered the phone in any way. I flashed back to the original shipped ROM. Change the SPL to 1.56 the original one that it came with. I then re-flashed the original shipped ROM. When the ROM flash completed at 50% I unplugged the phone. This way on the phone will only go to the bootloader.
I actually just did a warranty return again today. Had some scratches on the screen that were really bugging me. There weren't big but definitely a nuisance for me. Told them the phone was stuck on the bootloader, or as I put it in "in this three color screen with Red, green, white." They issued a warranty replacement right away.
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I did a warranty return not to long ago. Phone was stuck with the radio from hell 1.65.17.10 and didn't have the friendly FrankKaiser that Jockyw2001 developed. Never had an issue with AT&T saying that I had altered the phone in any way. I flashed back to the original shipped ROM. Change the SPL to 1.56 the original one that it came with. I then re-flashed the original shipped ROM. When the ROM flash completed at 50% I unplugged the phone. This way on the phone will only go to the bootloader.
I actually just did a warranty return again today. Had some scratches on the screen that were really bugging me. There weren't big but definitely a nuisance for me. Told them the phone was stuck on the bootloader, or as I put it in "in this three color screen with Red, green, white." They issued a warranty replacement right away.
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yeah cause we don't know about the magic we can do with the "pretty rainbow screen" come on ATW you let a few little scratches bug you. i'm still waiting for them to send me one that works, i've sent back three and i still have the original that i bought. two broken usb ports and a broken screen good job at&t for being incompetent
Has anybody done a warranty replacement and convinced them to send a new one and not a refurbed?
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actually yes, well they say they will be sending it when the get the phones i just sent back. i talked to Christina and she told me that the phone they will send me next will be the tilt as it comes out of the box, including the software cd, usb cable, stylus, battery, and back cover. i will confirm when i recieve it but they tell me it will be brand new
Well, after I figured out my ROM issues. My phone had some problems with continuously soft resetting. I suspect a bad memory block. I made it clear through out my conversation with the rep that I took really good care of my phone and that I don't know how people can throw their 400 dollar phones around like they are nothing. I also made a point to say my battery seemed to be going bad and that I had done some research about Li-Po batteries going bad and that this seemed to be a classic case. I asked if there was anyway she could send a battery with the phone. (Just so you know, when you call warranty replacement, it seems to me they have two options, send a refurb, or send a full kit) So, she said she could send me a full kit and it is otw now. That is a good thing because my phone wont boot now. I think whether you get caught with a bootloader that is different than OEM kinda depends on who receives the phone on the other end. I'm sure they are SUPPOSED to check that, but I'm sure they can get away with not checking it, and I'm sure there is no incentive for checking it.
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yeah cause we don't know about the magic we can do with the "pretty rainbow screen" come on ATW you let a few little scratches bug you. i'm still waiting for them to send me one that works, i've sent back three and i still have the original that i bought. two broken usb ports and a broken screen good job at&t for being incompetent
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They could have said F.U., you broke it we are not resposible.
My phone got stuck in bootloader while doing a rom update.Called AT$T, they sent me through three techs, my answer to all there suggestions were " did it ", " did it ".
Three days later, they sent me a refurb ( in perfect condition ), in the box was the phone, a return mailing label/postage, even a new piece of tape to seal the box. Put the phone in,sealed the box, put on the label, dropped it in the mail box. End of story. The new/refurb has worked great ever since.
Could not have been easier or more pleasant.
So far it has been very positive even when my phone was technically out of warranty they replaced my TILT (not a cheap phone)
I have done 4 returns via mail and 1 by going to a local AT&T Warranty exchange center. NO PROBLEMS, I did revert back to original ROM but I am sure they didn't check. store replacement was in and out in 25 minutes. ( 10 minutes after my phone was looked at they just gave me a new one ).
AT&T You do have great warranty service I will give you that.
so all sounds good i should just stick my device in bootloader mode and send it back?
i can only revert back the rom as i cant sspl it so it shows hardspl AND security unlocked at the top..think thatl make a difference?
My miniUSB port was broke, wouldn't charge or sync most of the time. I called AT&T told them what was wrong and they said they'd send me a replacement. Once the replacement got here, I reverted my phone back to at&t ship specs, sent it back to them and all went well.
My girlfriend and I both had the Hermes, unlocked w/ cooked rom. They physically broke to a point it was hard to revert them back, but eventually was able to, we got 2 brand new Kaisers for $50 a piece. I'd love to know if I can 'loose' this phone and get a new kaiser for another $50 then sell the one i've been using for a couple of months for 2 or 3 hundred. If anyone has done this or knows how let me know!
I recently had to send in my Tilt and recieved a refub in the mail and everything went very smooth. Customer service was good and fast.
just returned 2 8525's and they sent me a tilt, first 8525 white screen problem, second one wont continue installing rom above 12%. awesome hardware warranty service.
wow they upgraded you to a tilt, thats amazing
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as long as the phone isnt in more than one piece and the liquid indicator under the battery is white there should be no problem. Keep this in mind also. It all really depends on who receives it when you send it in. Everyone views physical damage, wear and tear, etc in their own terms even though there is a standard measure for it. Some let things go and others will say that a wear and tear scratch is damage. Generally you can get away with a bit as long as the phone doesnt look like a dog to it. No broken screens. No screens with pressure cracks (internal cracks). The screen is usually the biggie.
when i first got my kaiser i joined this site.. days later i BRICKED my phone, i had all types of apps and crap on my ppc. SO i went over to my original at&t shop and the dude called my bluff of "i dunno why, its not working". So i took my device and the next day went to another at&t shop with my brother. I walked in flirted my ass off with the ugliest sales rep i found.. and man this chick was beastly, and was able to swap out my device and get a new 512mb mem. card .. with no problem. i didnt even have a reciept, i just talked my way thru and SHAZAM!
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Frat.. My fully upgraded Tilt (Dutty Rom 6) got its USB port damaged while I accidentally poked the stylus in there instead of the reset hole.
...now it won't sync with my pc however does charge only when I plug in the dedicated wall charger into it. So, on visual inspection, I saw the 5 pins (thats how many they seem) with last two next to the reset hole "misaligned".
I've tried poking a needle and trying to straighten it back into place but didn't work and I gave up fearing further damage to the port.
basically, I called At&t and they are mailing me a replacement device but now I'm not sure if I would need to re-flash the original AT&T rom back before returning.... anyone have any experience in the returns field? The cust serv rep "read" me a disclaimer (felt like hearing my rights by a cop!) stating that if they find any liquid or other damage to the phone then I may be charged $497.00 for it as it would be considered as warranty voided.
So, no mention of any s/w changes in the disclaimer she read to me also resulting in the same. But I surely don't want to take a chance therefore am humbly asking for some input from someone who may have experience similar situation?!!
Reading the "Tilt re-flash due to not voiding warranty if having to return" sticky-thread's all 14 pages did not give me even a single post where anyone can confirm if at&t will indeed consider messing up with the s/w as voiding warranty.... unless ofcourse I'm blind..(has happened once in a while).
I've also searched on this and have not found any posts.. again, I'm mentioning this so that the mods and/or others won't burn me for not doing my homework.
Wouldnt it be easier to flash a stock rom from SD card than wait and see if they void your warranty?
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Wouldnt it be easier to flash a stock rom from SD card than wait and see if they void your warranty?
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Well.. I'm trying to avoid flashing the stock rom altogether. As I've noticed almost every 2nd post on the stock-rom-flashing-for-warranty sticky not having a smooth run while returning the phone to its original state.
besides.. what do you mean by "then wait and see if they void your warranty?"..
Thats exactly what I'm trying to avoid in the first place as once I mail the unit back I will have no control on the outcome unless ofcourse either someone confirms that not reverting back to the stock rom won't cause a $500 hole in my pocket or otherwise, in which case I'll have to re-flash it.
If you've flashed a different ROM then they will know and they will say you caused the damage and charge the full price for it.
they might charge you full price anyway because the usb port is damaged. it might just be easier to fix the port urself...
I know Pocket PC Techs can repair the connector in most cases:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
AWESOME!!
PsyOpWarlord said:
I know Pocket PC Techs can repair the connector in most cases:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
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Thanks a million for the site. I had no idea that a service like that existed and that too specifically addressing my exact issue. I'm gonna keep it bookmarked for future.
Fortunately, I was able to stick a needle in one of the pins and push them up and then have it held there with a dab of super glue. So far, its working like a charm but if it ever fails again I'll go the above route.
This is awesome.. I was very concerned in having to receive the replacement unit as with experience of having used several pda phones over the years I've learned that the refurb units that the warranty replacement give you is got a good 50-50 chance of having some kind of hw or sw flaw.. so... I'm glad to have kept my phone.
Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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Hi tjenus,
You mean you brought the faulty tilt, together with the original accessories it came with, to the store and they replaced your set for a brand new, retail version, of the tilt?
What else was required, the receipt or anything?
Thanks!
Gerald
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Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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I call BS after being a AT-T customer for years I know for a fact they don't swap out phones even at corp... Stores they tell you to call in and have a warrenty replacment shipped to you. Thats just how it works UNLESS your withen the 14 day grace period then they would probably do it. The reason they do this according to AT-T is they don't have enough stock in each store to do swap outs. You best bet is to call AT-T and have them ship you a new one and flash abck to the origanl rom they don't check the SPL version what so ever they just look if it has water damage and any other visable signs of abuse.
I returned mine
I had this same thing happen. The USB failed to work after I dropped my phone. So seeing how I could not reflash it, I ran out all the power on it, until it had nothing....it would not even boot. With all the battery drained, I knew that even if they plugged it in, they would not see I had flashed the rom....though they could have used a new battery. I took it in, and told the local ATT reseller that the USB stopped working. It was within 30days of purchase. They took it back and exchanged it no questions asked. They didnt even test it. Now, i just wont drop my new one, lol.
Good luck.
Not entirely related, but for those who purchased an HTC TyTN II and try to have it repaired in the US, beware: it is not covered under warranty here. After just under 4-weeks I found the USB port was loose and would no longer take a charge. After more than 4-weeks in HTC America and after refusing to accept their assessment of "User Abuse" and the $300 mainboard repair cost, they finally shipped it back to me, mainboard replaced via Fedex Ground... according to several HTC America reps I spoke with - there have been numerous similar cases reported to them since the TyTN II debut two months ago. Perseverence may pay off -- although I should have known better, my next purchase won't be through a parallel importer.
Cheers
hah. did this too.. called at&t and had them warranty exchange it. i just bent it back around with the stylus enough that it would work so that could revert back so i could send it back. havent heard anything from them.. so im assuming there not gonna charge me
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Not entirely related, but for those who purchased an HTC TyTN II and try to have it repaired in the US, beware: it is not covered under warranty here. After just under 4-weeks I found the USB port was loose and would no longer take a charge. After more than 4-weeks in HTC America and after refusing to accept their assessment of "User Abuse" and the $300 mainboard repair cost, they finally shipped it back to me, mainboard replaced via Fedex Ground... according to several HTC America reps I spoke with - there have been numerous similar cases reported to them since the TyTN II debut two months ago. Perseverence may pay off -- although I should have known better, my next purchase won't be through a parallel importer.
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i own a tytn 2 in the usa and got the same from htc. my usb got messed up a little on its own than i stuck the stencil in there and it barely worked(had to wiggle it) anyways i found a repair center but they didnt have parts. ordered the parts from ppc techs and they sent me a different connector. its the same one in the sprint mogul which i think is a better build. so they replaced it and everything is perfect with the charging now but they did something with my hinge. its off a little. can anyone point me in the right direction to take my phone apart so i can fiddle with the hinge? any help is greatly appreciated
Hi,
I just got a Tilt from craigslist. The phone came with the At&T box, but unfortunately I forgot to get the receipt. Now the USB port is broken and I want to see if I can return for warranty.
The phone still has the AT&T ROM and infact I havent unlocked it. So will this be a problem if I just say I dont have the receipt but the rest and returned it with the box?
Please help!!!
ramnan said:
Hi,
I just got a Tilt from craigslist. The phone came with the At&T box, but unfortunately I forgot to get the receipt. Now the USB port is broken and I want to see if I can return for warranty.
The phone still has the AT&T ROM and infact I havent unlocked it. So will this be a problem if I just say I dont have the receipt but the rest and returned it with the box?
Please help!!!
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Not unless you are the original one that bought it from AT-T they will say sorry buddy !! you could try but I would save my breath
Hi
I had the same Issue - but it was fixed inside warranty!
But I was runing "original" rom.
But the somehow made the "reset" button work strange now - So it will go back once more.
BR
Daniel
Please respond to...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362679
I've installed a few ROMs from this place onto it. I did not SuperCID (just used a HardSPL bypass) it nor SIM Unlock it.
Does this mean that I should be able to undo everything that has been done?
How do I remove HardSPL? Is that possible?
How can I install an original AT&T ROM on it? Where do I find those? I think I found one with Alex's Kitchen, but I'm not sure if that's a full version or what. And what about the AT&T bloat?
Sorry if this is a noob question. I glanced through the Tilt-specific Wiki and the Kaiser Wiki and I didn't see the answer to any of these questions in the FAQs.
see the wiki, there's a howto link for reverting your spl
Oh, awesome. I missed that. I think it was because I was mainly looking through the Tilt-specific Wiki. My mistake.
Here's the thread in case someone else happens accross this one in search of the same advice.
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/335568/
Just install the original AT&T Rom and you should be fine. I had to send mine in for a warranty exchange last Friday after the radio conked out on it, and got my new one on Monday of this week. Anway, I used the HardSPL too, and I just reflashed the AT&T Rom onto it, put it in the box, slapped the return label on it and sent it on it's merry way
Edit-Somebody on here said they don't check the SPL when they get the defective unit, just that it has the AT&T Rom on it. In fact, I bet they just chuck it in the recyling bin and write it off.
Yeah I'm pretty sure they half inspect the phones. They must get more exchanges than they could deal with. They possibly check the device thoroughly though because it's a high end (dollar) device. Who knows?
I worked in the service department at Best Buy for a while, and I know we didn't check anything when customers returned products. All we did was looked at the stickers on the outside of the products to make sure the serial number, model number, etcetera all matched up, and that was it. As long as those matched up, we could send the devices back to their manufacturers or out to our service centers.
I figured AT&T would operate the same way, but from what I've read on these forums, they do a pretty thorough check. I just wanted to make sure I covered all grounds. Better safe than sorry, y'know?
Yeah, that's true. The guy at the store looked my phone over, and even changed SIM's and agreed something was wrong with the phone's radio, so that's in the notes too.
I found the post I was talking about, it's the first on on the page-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568&page=23
"Just FYI; I recently returned my 8525 to ATT because it was not charging with the car charger.
I flashed back to the latest ATT ROM and then did a second hard reset. I heard last week from ATT the phone was accepted as a core with no problem.
I was told by a friend at ATT that they don't look at CID, but different splash screens will for sure trip up a return.
Just my experience; hope it helps someone."
Warranty issue?
The touchscreen of my phone is not working. Good thing is that i bought it just 8 months before so i guess its still under warranty? (is it?)
After looking around in the forum i get it reverted back to original locked state and now i want to get my warranty from ATT people. Can you please let me know how to proceed? And if anyone has already done this then what steps he followed? Do we need to send our phone back first and then get the newer phone? Or do they give us the newer phone and then we need to send them the older one back?
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The touchscreen of my phone is not working. Good thing is that i bought it just 8 months before so i guess its still under warranty? (is it?)
After looking around in the forum i get it reverted back to original locked state and now i want to get my warranty from ATT people. Can you please let me know how to proceed? And if anyone has already done this then what steps he followed? Do we need to send our phone back first and then get the newer phone? Or do they give us the newer phone and then we need to send them the older one back?
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Just call AT$T, they will check your account to see if you are within warranty. If your problem is within warranty guidelines, they will send you a new (refurb) tilt or if you press, a new (refurb) Fuze ( I would rather have the Tilt ) It usually arrives within five days. It comes with a pre paid return envelope. Take the battery and sim and back cover off the old phone, put them in the new phone. Drop the old one in the envelope. Drop it in the post and you are all set.
If you fail to send the old one back within the time allotted they will bill your account of the full value of the replacement phone. Quick and easy, my replacement phone is over a year old and has worked flawlessly.
My Tilt is maybe 8 months old and decided to stop charging the other night. Unfortunately, I installed a Manila 2D ROM on it some time ago and because it will not recognize the USB cable, I can't roll it back. I'm going to call AT&T today and see about having a replacement shipped to me. I don't think it'll be a problem since it won't turn on and it'll probably be a mail replacement like you described. I'm going to press to get a Fuze, when I ordered the Tilt I paid good money to get it new instead of refurbished and it still stopped working after well under a year of use. If I'm getting a refurbished replacement I'd like the newest model.
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My Tilt is maybe 8 months old and decided to stop charging the other night. Unfortunately, I installed a Manila 2D ROM on it some time ago and because it will not recognize the USB cable, I can't roll it back. I'm going to call AT&T today and see about having a replacement shipped to me. I don't think it'll be a problem since it won't turn on and it'll probably be a mail replacement like you described. I'm going to press to get a Fuze, when I ordered the Tilt I paid good money to get it new instead of refurbished and it still stopped working after well under a year of use. If I'm getting a refurbished replacement I'd like the newest model.
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Unless of course it is a battery issue, and they put in a new battery, see that you have used unapproved software and mark your S/N as immediately out of warranty,.....................I'm just sayin................................
You think that's an issue even exchanging it through the mail?
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You think that's an issue even exchanging it through the mail?
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Do you think they stay in business by by just mailing a new phone to anyone who says, " this is broken, give me anew fuze ?'
I just exchanged my tilt today. My screen broke (the colors became all white and inversed and weird) so I called ATT and they told me to go to this special service warranty store. They looked it over quickly and gave me a new tilt no problem... just make sure you flash the original ATT rom back on it. (They didnt notice I broke the VOID sticker in the screwhole hehe)
PS. I got my tilt last April, and I'm not sure how long the warranty lasts. The guy said I have 90 extra days on this new phone.
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<snip> If your problem is within warranty guidelines, they will send you a new (refurb) tilt or if you press, a new (refurb) Fuze ( I would rather have the Tilt ) </snip>
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Just out of curiosity, why would you rather have the tilt? I've been thinking of upgrading from the tilt to the fuze...
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Just out of curiosity, why would you rather have the tilt? I've been thinking of upgrading from the tilt to the fuze...
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Basically , you can have a brand new Fuze the way AT$T and M$ want it, or you can have a Tilt the way you want it. At present there are three times as many custom roms, more ways to customize it and I absolutely will not give up my Tilt screen. After a year of customizing my Tilt to perfection on this site, there is absolutely nothing about the Fuze that interests me.
I'm thinking about sending my Tilt back. It's bricked for some reason. I bought a new (OEM) battery because I thought I had battery problems, still nothing. If AT&T gets a phone that won't even power up what happens, I have hard spl and a flashed rom?
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If AT&T gets a phone that won't even power up what happens, I have hard spl and a flashed rom?
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If they manage to resusitate it or even read the flash memory contents (if it's possible to hotwire a car, who knows what can be done with a TyTN II and both of these would be possible), then when they see it's not running an approved ROM/SPL they may act like a bull and charge!
Anyone who runs a custom ROM on a phone thats still under warranty runs that risk should a problem occur that makes it difficult to flash back to original spec.
denco7 I agree entirely with your comments re the importance of a tilting screen but now HTC have developed the Touch Pro 2 (which has a tilting screen) there may soon be a real successor for the Kaiser released to the market. I don't know which providers will pick it up or where it'll be sold though.
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If they manage to resusitate it or even read the flash memory contents (if it's possible to hotwire a car, who knows what can be done with a TyTN II and both of these would be possible), then when they see it's not running an approved ROM/SPL they may act like a bull and charge!
Anyone who runs a custom ROM on a phone thats still under warranty runs that risk should a problem occur that makes it difficult to flash back to original spec.
Does the same thing apply if it's not under warranty but has insurance from at&t on it?
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Just wanted to share with everyone my experience I just had with HTC regarding the repair of my beloved Kaiser.
About 4 weeks ago my phone tri-color screened on my me. After several weeks of posting to this forum trying to get a fix I finally called for an RMA#.
Sent the phone off, got a call 3 days later saying they were running it through is diagnostics and would report back to me. 3 days later they called me and said it was being repaired and I owed them $20. Paid them and then 4 days later received a call saying my phone was repaired and it was being shipped out and the guy gave me my tracking number.
So the phone shows up and it has a description of what repairs were done. The replaced the mainboard as well as the usb connector. Loaded on WM 6.1 for me and also replaced the entire key pad on the front of the phone. Keep in mind they only thing I think was wrong with the phone to begin with was I screwed up loading the newer SPL so I could flash the phone.
Not sure if everyone has had such a good experience with HTC but this is the reason I will keep buying the phones as they come out. I honestly thought they were going to charge me $150 plus to do this.
So I will take back my 3G iPhone I got and start using my favorite phone of all time.
Now if HTC will make a phone with a larger screen the world will nearly be a perfect place!!!
Happy flashing,
heat
I think I need them to... sounds like the same problem I have. I'll call HTC today so the process can be started to repair my phone... In the Netherlands I heard less positive reactions to HTC's Service.
yah i sent back a tilt with a broken lcd and red light of death and they didnt charge me a dime..they said there was pressure damage to lcd and the mainboard needed to be replaced and also housing because they stated that they need to break the housing to replace the lcd (which is crap) so they quoted me like 300 or something (i dont remember it was 6 months ago) and i told them just to send it back to me with nothing done to it and i dont hear back from them and a week later they call me saying theyre shipping it back and everything has been replaced and i didnt even get the $29 diagnostics fee so that was awesome and to think i almost sent it in to att through exchange by mail warranty program
I sent my kaiser to their repair service for unresponsive keys on the keyboard.
It came back about 10 days later with a new keyboard, new back cover (the rubber external gsp cover was a bit loose) and a new lcd screen (don't know why).
It was warranty, so I didn't have to pay anything.
Satisfied customer over here
I have a Kaiser with the 3G/HSDPA problem in Spain, at this moment is at the Service centre for three times, each time along one month and return with the same problem. I am very unhappy
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
If you got it off ebay, att doesnt want anything to do with it. You can try for HTC support, but i have no idea how HTC is with that kind of stuff.
Do a hard reset, and see if that helps any.
I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.
HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.
I've had good experiences with HTC.
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HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.
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This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric
Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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The first thing u should do is figure out if it is hardware or software related. Just do a hardreset and see if that helps. If not, then its most likely hardware related.
Check in Settings - Buttons what button is assigned to the recorder (usually the one on the left side), remove that assignment.
The button must be stuck or the sensor below it faulty, so it senses that button always pressed.
Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric
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Dont get me wrong, I wasnt slating HTC for their support, I'm with you on that one. I've just seen jobs that have been bounced back from them (rightfully so) and was just giving the worst case scenario, that being that HTC dont actually have to fix it.
the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser
Square Trade
After this happened to me the first time I got some bunk electronics from ebay, I started using squaretrade.com. They will give you a warranty at about 50% of the cost of a Manufacturer/Dealer warranty and have a five day fix/replacement guarantee.
I would like to thank everyone for their reply I can see this is a dedicated community.
Starscreamer said:
I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.
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Last night I reverted back to my factory rom but this did not fix the problem. Some odd things that I noticed that has me completely baffled is that only the directional keys (up, down, right, left) work on the keyboard but nothing else works. I tried doing a hard reset but that didn't wont since the 2 soft keys are not responding.
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the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser
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That manual seems very complete if I can't get HTC to fix it I will attempt to fix it myself. Does anyone know if I can purchase replacement part?
There's some hope for you. I bought my Tilt off of Ebay. AT&T warranted it from the day that it hit their network with my SIM card. So although it was originally purchased from AT&T (by the ebayer seller) on Oct 17th 2007, my warranty started December 6th 2007. No receipt required. They swapped it no problem. The TILT has a 365 day warranty via AT&T.
Just make sure you deal with a service center and not the individual stores. Go to attwireless.com and search for "TILT Warranty" .. look for the service center information.
Mine was swapped with no hassle in about 5minutes (I had a rom issue). One note if you go this route, check the replacement! My replacement has key-sticking issues (the right key on the keyboard gets stuck down, etc). The speaker (for phonecalls, not external) also is a little more muted than my old one (I sometimes have trouble hearing people). I may rewarranty it.
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Here: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB64687
The service centers are contractors (I could tell by their shirts, saying "Company Name: Authorized AT&T Tech"), so I really don't think they care, as long as they can warranty it they will because it is more money for them. Just my thought.
As the above poster said, AT&T WILL do warranty exchanges on tilts bought through ebay or otherwise. I bought one off of craigslist and had it exchanged when a key on the keyboard stopped working. No problem. It is warrantied for 1 year after it is first used on their system.
The people stating otherwise are flat out wrong.
Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.
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Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.
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No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.
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No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.
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The touch pro is very sexy
congratulations
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The touch pro is very sexy
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Did any of you here swap your phone with HTC and your phone was unlocked?
My phone's defects are obviously hardware: Power button failing and Screen has a gap around sides, (Dust gathers around screen everyday, have to clean manually).
Can they charge me for unlocking and rooting it, even though these issues are hardware specific? Anyone has a story to share?
During the call, the HTC Rep told me that "we will charge your credit card for any non-warranty problems." Does unlocking count as one?
yes they will charge you for having your phone rooter,cause is out of the warranty that's what they told me over the phone...
I heard some Reps are unaware that HTC honors Hardware warranty. Maybe they said that to you because they are just reading a script that says "unlocking = void" I've read stories here that they still repair though. Is it true?
I just had my Nexus One (unlocked bootloader) replaced through HTC without a charge for a similar hardware defect. When I called, I didn't mention anything about it being rooted, nor did he ask. I received my replacement, HTC received my defective unit, and I was told my ticket was closed with no charge on my account.
The replacement I received has a new defect and I'm currently awaiting another replacement to swap it out as well. I don't think they care, but I wouldn't parade around talking about it. Just be courteous and flash everything back to stock as much as you can.
Ok, thanks for the info! It would be great if they didn't charge me for this.
Please keep us informed on how everything turns out. Several people have said they've had no trouble. It would be nice to get a list if reasons for RMA with success rate. I have a fairly strong feeling as long as it's hardware related and involves no root caused problem (led from n1 torch, speaker from louder music, etc.) the rate would be pretty high. HTC really, in all the times I've had any problems has been one of my favorite call centers to contact.
I have successfully swapped my phone. I had the dust under screen issue and i called them up. Not questions asked about unlocked. I got my phone and they waited a week or so and i saw my ticket was closed. Now im calling back because my replacement one now has dust under the screen also.
Did you guys get these phones new that you are able to do this?
I just bought my N1 used from someone and I'm wondering if this will apply to me if incase i get the dust issue
I have a question regarding replacement swapping as well.
My phone has the power button defect and I'd like to swap it for a new one.
However, I dropped my phone on asphalt recently and there are minor scuffs on 2 edges and a ding on the top left edge. Will this be a problem in swapping?
Will I get charged or something after they receive my phone? The defects are not related to me dropping it.
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Did you guys get these phones new that you are able to do this?
I just bought my N1 used from someone and I'm wondering if this will apply to me if incase i get the dust issue
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I got mine on Craigslist. I traded my Iphone 3gs for it. Wonderful trade. Android fanboy since G1, but wanted to see what all the hype was about for the iphone. I never saw it. haha.
So I called HTC. Told them the IMEI they asked if i still live blah blah address(the original owner). I told them nope. Gave them new address and name. They got my CC number and off we go. Got a replacement phone in 2 days. Sent the other one back. Case closed. All is good, until yesterday when I saw just under my replacement one also. Its been 3-4 weeks. Now i'm waiting for another replacement.
I got mine on craigslist too, not that AWESOME of a deal since i pretty much just got the phone (the charger barely charges) and the usb i got from a small cell store at a mall doesnt work...pfftt
so I need: Data cable, charger & car charger.
bleh
futango said:
I got mine on Craigslist. I traded my Iphone 3gs for it. Wonderful trade. Android fanboy since G1, but wanted to see what all the hype was about for the iphone. I never saw it. haha.
So I called HTC. Told them the IMEI they asked if i still live blah blah address(the original owner). I told them nope. Gave them new address and name. They got my CC number and off we go. Got a replacement phone in 2 days. Sent the other one back. Case closed. All is good, until yesterday when I saw just under my replacement one also. Its been 3-4 weeks. Now i'm waiting for another replacement.
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you didn't have to show proof or purchase/receipts?
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I have a question regarding replacement swapping as well.
My phone has the power button defect and I'd like to swap it for a new one.
However, I dropped my phone on asphalt recently and there are minor scuffs on 2 edges and a ding on the top left edge. Will this be a problem in swapping?
Will I get charged or something after they receive my phone? The defects are not related to me dropping it.
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I'd like to know the answer to this too. My phone has a stuck pixel but I also dropped it and now there is a crack in the screen. I'm wondering if they'll charge me for the swap.
I've had my N1 replaced almost 5 times, so I have some experience with this. Everything was perfect with my first phone except for one dead pixel, which was only visible from certain angles. However, considering the price that I paid for the phone, it wasn't acceptable from my perspective.
I read a lot about people having successes with replacements so I decided to do a swap. My recommendation is to think about doing a swap very carefully. Each time a replacement was sent to me, I found new problems with the phone.
For example, one replacement had a weak vibrate while another had a camera that took oversaturated photos. One of the phones had minor scratches on the screen. Another replacement turned out to be the replacement that was sent to me which I sent back (but with a different sticker and IMEI).
So I think that if the phone is not damaged significantly, such as huge cracks, they will not charge you any fees. So minor scratches on the phone and "normal use" damage is fine.
Also, if you purchased your phone from someone else, you will still be under the warranty and do swaps. I've asked this through the phone twice and both times I was told that they decided to honor warranty transfers.
HTC gave me a new one was well with unlocked bootloader. The problem with my phone was a software issue too. No questions asked.
This is great to hear.
I traded my iPhone 3GS for a N1 on craigslist only to discover it has some sort of hardware problem - Strange rebooting - not sure if it's heat related (doesn't seem so) or bad RAM (I've seen many reports). Went the replacement route (that's another story all together - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698156) and am awaiting the new unit. Just got my return shipping label, hopefully they wont charge me either!
x986123 said:
I heard some Reps are unaware that HTC honors Hardware warranty. Maybe they said that to you because they are just reading a script that says "unlocking = void" I've read stories here that they still repair though. Is it true?
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I had my Nexus One rooted and it was sent it to HTC for "power button failure" and they fixed it for no extra charge. Came back with a more firm-feeling power button and relocked.
They tried to charge me but after some reasoning with the right person on the phone they dropped the charge. You can also file a ticket with the Google Sales team and they will make sure you are not charged if you have a manufacturing defect unrelated to your phone being unlocked.
I bought mine from someone locally in salt lake, and after I had bought it, i noticed some dust under the screen. When I called HTC, they wouldn't replace the whole unit because there was an engraving on it. But they said they would send me a packing slip and i could send them the phone and they would take it apart and fix it. So hopefully it works.
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I bought mine from someone locally in salt lake, and after I had bought it, i noticed some dust under the screen. When I called HTC, they wouldn't replace the whole unit because there was an engraving on it. But they said they would send me a packing slip and i could send them the phone and they would take it apart and fix it. So hopefully it works.
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Hey, I would try calling HTC again and talk to another representative if you want to do a swap for a replacement; sometimes the customer representatives tell you what they know and so they give different responses.
The warranty specifically says:
If you have engraved your phone with a personal message, the device that you receive will not include the engraving, and the engraving on the defective device will not be sent back to you. If you want to keep your engraving, you can opt for the express repair option.
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That is, unless you want to keep the engraving.
Good luck!