Playing video on Tilt (Choppy picture) - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I just installed CorePlayer and when I play video (WMV) It's extremely choppy. I also tried it on WMP and its also very choppy. Any suggestions on how to remedy this? TIA

check your specs on the video,codec,bitrate, etc

Check out Coreplayer, it really improved the view and choppiness on my movies.

kareem9nba said:
Check out Coreplayer, it really improved the view and choppiness on my movies.
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LOL, he already said he tried coreplayer

set the video settings to raw frame buffer and see if it helps

Call HTC and ask them to send you the video drivers for your phone.

Are there any specific or recommended settings for converting to AVI of WMV? Divx or Xvid? What setting for those of you that have gotten video to play what settings do you use? I'm using TMPGEnc to process the video.
The phone is not even 3 months old. Doesn't it come with the latest HTC drivers? Can I download them?

FuSchnickens said:
Are there any specific or recommended settings for converting to AVI of WMV? Divx or Xvid? What setting for those of you that have gotten video to play what settings do you use? I'm using TMPGEnc to process the video.
The phone is not even 3 months old. Doesn't it come with the latest HTC drivers? Can I download them?
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The "drivers" is a joke. They Kaiser is missing the Hardware Graphics acceleration drivers. Check out http://htcclassaction.org.
Dave

My problem is that video playback seems random.
I've converted some video clips I've downloaded from the internet, using PocketDivXEncoder, and am using CorePlayer for playback.
The first time I view, the quality is great - but subsequently they are choppy to the point where they are unwatchable.
I can't understand why this should happen.
I've played around with a few things - I thought I'd got it sussed when I moved the clips to the DCIM folder, but again it only worked the first time.
Weird...
As a side issue, for future reference, what are the recommended settings for quality/size/bitrate etc. when trying to load video onto my TyTN II?

Bingo Accent said:
My problem is that video playback seems random.
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It seems to me that you have some program running that sometimes uses a lot of CPU resources and prevents the video player from using them.
As for encoding, I'm usually using ~350kbps divx video/128kbps mp3 audio in 320x240 frame size.

I thought that...
Closed all apps, even did a soft reset...
(Thanks for the numbers by the way)

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video playback, cpu to slow?

I replaced my qtek2020 (400mhz) with the tytn2. With my qtek i was able to play almost anything (divx with high bitrate, vcd files, streaming 800kbps video over activesync) . The tytn2 seems to be to weak to play these files.
www.streamingpda.nl --> humortv (800kbps) stutters.
Divx --> without reencoding stutters.
Does anybody know a solution, please help, its the only thing i am dissapointed in with my new baby.
thx
anybody?
Ok, maybe no one has a solution but can somebody confirm that he has the same problem?
eska007 said:
I replaced my qtek2020 (400mhz) with the tytn2. With my qtek i was able to play almost anything (divx with high bitrate, vcd files, streaming 800kbps video over activesync) . The tytn2 seems to be to weak to play these files.
www.streamingpda.nl --> humortv (800kbps) stutters.
Divx --> without reencoding stutters.
Does anybody know a solution, please help, its the only thing i am dissapointed in with my new baby.
thx
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Perhaps you could tell us what you are attempting to play these with.
eska007 said:
I replaced my qtek2020 (400mhz) with the tytn2. With my qtek i was able to play almost anything (divx with high bitrate, vcd files, streaming 800kbps video over activesync) . The tytn2 seems to be to weak to play these files.
www.streamingpda.nl --> humortv (800kbps) stutters.
Divx --> without reencoding stutters.
Does anybody know a solution, please help, its the only thing i am dissapointed in with my new baby.
thx
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I went to the site you reproted and saw the same problem. The video seems to play ok for about 20 seconds and then goes in to a jerky frame mode. The sound is still clear though.
Oddly, I went to the windows media site from the windows media player that this site seems to demand and watched some clips there that played flawlessly.
Might it have to do with the way your site is encoding their stuff?
I am a noob but the windows media player offers almost no options to fiddle with to try to make things better. How to force the video to play with TCPMP?
I tried windows media player (not a lot of options indeed) , tcpmp (the latest version) and Makayama liveTv. They all sem to have the same problem. It is ok if the bitrate is below 500 kbps. I am giong to try that windows media site.
I'm having the same problem. As the video plays it will skip parts of it. but as you say the sound is fine.
have you tried setting your video driver to GDI? i would think that would solve the problem
How do you do that?
mikeeey said:
have you tried setting your video driver to GDI? i would think that would solve the problem
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In TCMP: Options>Video>GDI
Oh Ok, I tought you know how to hack the WMP.
I use CorePlayer (and TCPMP) and I use RawBuffer ... Works fine (faster than WMP).
Brickcity said:
In TCMP: Options>Video>GDI
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gogol said:
Oh Ok, I tought you know how to hack the WMP.
I use CorePlayer (and TCPMP) and I use RawBuffer ... Works fine (faster than WMP).
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Cool, for me. Videos + TCMP = It works.
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Cool, for me. Videos + TCMP = It works.
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GDI or Rawbuffer?
what does GDI do?
so we have to use tcmp? wmp is useless if we want some kind of quality or flow? What the hell were you thinking HTC? give us some new drivers that works with wmp! allways a guinea-pig.
Posted this in another thread, but it applies here as well.
I'm using the Core Player and I tried "GDI" vs "Raw Frame Buffer" and the benchmark tells me;
GDI=Ave Speed of 135%
RawFrameBuffer=Ave Speed of 168%
Guess I'll stick with Raw, it plays my Divx vids perfectly, but I encode mine at 320x240 just for small gear like this and iPods. They look very sharp and clear at these modest rates.
I also tried RawFrameBuffer with the Keyboard Open=163%
So is my TyTN 2 worthless for playing back h.264 videos ?
I'm trying to playback the DL.TV podcasts in native ipod video encoded .mp4
It is already formatted 320x240 at under 400 kb/s w/AAc audio...
The sound plays fine, but the video stutters along.
Benchmarking only comes up eith 58%
Do I need to fix the settings ?
tbfl said:
So is my TyTN 2 worthless for playing back h.264 videos ?
I'm trying to playback the DL.TV podcasts in native ipod video encoded .mp4
It is already formatted 320x240 at under 400 kb/s w/AAc audio...
The sound plays fine, but the video stutters along.
Benchmarking only comes up eith 58%
Do I need to fix the settings ?
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use tcpmp or coreplayer and make sure you DON'T USE DIRECTDRAW. it should work
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use tcpmp or coreplayer and make sure you DON'T USE DIRECTDRAW. it should work
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I am using TCPMP 0.72
I have tried both GDI and Raw Buffer with no noticeable difference in quality.
Both stutter along on that video.
Is there a web pae or post with the correct option setting for all of these other sub menus ?
Thanks again,
TBFL

What video settings work (all rants off please :) )

I think most of the active members are aware of the video difficulties SO please (please, please) turn your rants off for this thread. What I am trying to find is a combination of settings that DO work.
My preferred codec is MP4.
From some suggestions in other threads, I have tried these encoding settings.
Screen resolution: 320x240
Frames Per Second: 30
Kbps: 300
Audio codec: [email protected]
...and I am playing back on TCPMP 0.72RC1 using these settings
Options/Video: Raw FrameBuffer
Options/Video/Dither: Off
Options/Video/Pixel Aspect Ratio: Auto
Options/Settings/Advanced/Slow Video Memory: On
Options/Settings/Buffering/Preload at Underrun: 85%
Using this, all I get for video is about 1 frame every 3 seconds. Audio is fine.
So can anyone add this this for getting MP4 to work?
Do I need to use a different codec? If so, I would prefer something other then AVI, since I have a mixed environment. Does anyone have suggestions on the best cross platform Codec, that has work well on the Kaiser?
I'd be interested in this too. I can play back videos taken from the video camera flawlessly but when trying to encode them to the same MP4 codec they can get choppy. Not sure what gives :0
Using WMV here
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.
You might want to follow this thread... seams that the Core Player is attacking this known problem for the Tilt. I'm by no means an expert on this, but seems like the Qualcomm QTV technology for the video has some issues:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=596.0
I use PDXE, Lathe, and a few others to encode Divx videos at 320x240 video quality at "28" audio in stereo at 96 or 128k MP3 with a total bitrate under 500k (usually shoot for 475kbps). If the encoder allows it, for portable video I bump the audio volume by 15% and I increase brightness as well. To me most movies look darker on the small screen. If cropping is allowed I crop widescreen content, cutting off some of the sides of the picture to get closer to the 3:4 ratio of PDA screen. I also like to turn the brightness down as much as possible to increase battery life so the bump in brightness helps there as well. An average movie 1:50 length is about 480MB
I've used Core and TCPMP (currently using TCPMP for the youtube capability) and use Rawframe buffer as well. I'm sure that Core 1.2 will make things even better.
I get 30FPS and normal fluid video, looks like my other 8525, hx4700, and Archos 320 and 400 units with crisp clear video, no complaints.
This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only the phone???
Flying Kiwi said:
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.
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This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
I have an TiLt and when i try to record videos on my phone in MP4, it appears to work fine and i can play it back on my phone using TCPMP. but when i try to run this on my computer rnning vista it only shows video with no sound.
What can be causing this, is there a way to fix this and has anyone else noticed this..
ps. i hope ths has not been spoken about b4, i hate sounding like a nubie
zulualpha7 said:
This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
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There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.
recorded videos on Tilt not playing on vista with sound!! I GOT IT FIXXX
Flying Kiwi said:
There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.
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Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...
if you want an mp4 player on your pc for free, go to nokia.com
zulualpha7 said:
Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...
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MANY THANKS! zulualpha7,
I have had the error 2041 problem for a long time and have never been able to play vids recorded on my TyTn II on my PC.
I almost installed various codec packs as other forum members have done but after reading about potential problems of having multiple codecs for same file type and upsetting the system I decided not to do this.
I have some really important 'once in a lifetime' family moments like my friend's son catching his first fish etc... I though they were all lost for ever.
I just downloaded latest Quicktime and renamed file extensions to ".3gp" like you said and now I can watch everything!!!!
Thank you so much this really has been a big improvement for me.
ONCE AGAIN THIS FORUM ROCKS! Thanks to everyone for so much fantastic helpful info.

Good video codecs and settings for Wing

Hey, I was wondering what video apps would one use to create 30fps video playback on the TMobile Wing.
If not the video app, then what codec and settings could I use to playback good video... I'd hate to buy a Apple Nano to playback videos..
Thanks
KiserSoze said:
Hey, I was wondering what video apps would one use to create 30fps video playback on the TMobile Wing.
If not the video app, then what codec and settings could I use to playback good video... I'd hate to buy a Apple Nano to playback videos..
Thanks
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????? - tcpmp is working perfect for me.... for watching movies....
but making videos with built in camera - there will not be an app with 30fps -- coolcamera is better then built in - but only 20fps...
please describe your wish a little better
KiserSoze said:
Hey, I was wondering what video apps would one use to create 30fps video playback on the TMobile Wing.
If not the video app, then what codec and settings could I use to playback good video... I'd hate to buy a Apple Nano to playback videos..
Thanks
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Hi,
I'm using Windows Media to view videos captured by the device itself without issues.
TCMP for viewing all other formats without issues as well.
ttran001 said:
Hi,
I'm using Windows Media to view videos captured by the device itself without issues.
TCMP for viewing all other formats without issues as well.
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"The Core Media Player"? I'm trying to download that without success..
What I'm trying to do is convert QT's of my demo reel to a format that my Wing can play without dropped frames and I was looking for video settings that could help make transcoding smooth for the wing...
KiserSoze said:
"The Core Media Player"? I'm trying to download that without success..
What I'm trying to do is convert QT's of my demo reel to a format that my Wing can play without dropped frames and I was looking for video settings that could help make transcoding smooth for the wing...
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i use pocketdivx for coding movies...
and tcpmp 0.81
KiserSoze said:
"The Core Media Player"? I'm trying to download that without success..
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http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
hav0c said:
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
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Ya.. So I download TCPMP and pocketEncoder. My playback on my wing is still choppy, but get a bit better when I reduce my fps to 15.
What settings are people using to get 30fps?
BTW, I'm using TTrans001's latest OpenTouch v3_Biggie
Thanks

Is there any way to get large videos to play @ full speed?

I'm using TCPMP and I can't get bigger files to play smooth for the life of me...any suggestions?
Cawley said:
I'm using TCPMP and I can't get bigger files to play smooth for the life of me...any suggestions?
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Get a Zune.
JimmyMcGee said:
Get a Zune.
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I second that Especially the new Zune is really nice. You can connect via your router to sync your music. I just hate the zune syncing software it's such a pain in the ass. I wish we could sync with WMP. I mean come on seriously.
Pocket Divx encoder
I had the same problem with my touch. TCPMP would not play large video's .avi even though it supports it. I used Pocket Divx Encoder to reduce the .avi according to my screen size and now I can watch any .avi without any problems and the audio and picture is still incredibly clear. I max out video and audio quality still with no problems during playback.
Pocket Divx Encoder is free
Hope this works for you and enjoy your video's
I use CorePlayer (based on TCPMP ) to play my Divx files (700 to 900 Mo each resolution 660*360, datarate 1010kbps) without any specific Mobile transcoding and it plays quite well with the right settings, with some rare glitches (but i guess it will never work flawlessly until we have the real Kaiser drivers).
TCPMP is good, but Coreplayer is faster on the Kaiser from my own experience.
The only down side about Coreplayer (aside from the fact its not freeware) is that it cannot play AC3 sound unlike TCPMP (due to open source licence)
why i dont understand it...when i had my standard att WM 6.0 rom that came with my tilt...i watched avis and mpeg4//divx movies CRYSTAL CLEAR....and thatt was with no htc ca driver or none of that ****. And now ive upgraded to WM 6.1..first duttys hybrid then L26 and now garmins...and each rom has the same problem...old tcpmps crash and when i use the repack tcpmp app and it works....i have SLUGGISH and chopppy fps when i watch avi movies and mpeg stufff. How is this possible with all the new drivers and such....it was crystal clear to watch movies with WM 6.0..but with 6.1 its choppy and ****ty playback? has anybody found a better fix for this other then converting the movies to sccreen resolution?
have lookedeverywhere for pocket divx encoder but unable to d/l it can anyone post please?
Try xvid4psp. It's free, fast and has enough options. I use MP4 iPod 5.0G settings for Kaiser.
thanks will give it a shot
antihrist said:
Try xvid4psp. It's free, fast and has enough options. I use MP4 iPod 5.0G settings for Kaiser.
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on a site showing format support, i dont see where mp4ipod is supported..
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
thanx
amkaos said:
on a site showing format support, i dont see where mp4ipod is supported..
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
thanx
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Sorry, my previous post was meant to be reply to felixthecat.
So, to make things clear:
- XviD4PSP is not media player for PPC.
- XviD4PSP is software for converting videos. You can find it here.
- MP4 iPod 5.0G is just one of the format settings in Xvid4PSP.
antihrist said:
Sorry, my previous post was meant to be reply to felixthecat.
So, to make things clear:
- XviD4PSP is not media player for PPC.
- XviD4PSP is software for converting videos. You can find it here.
- MP4 iPod 5.0G is just one of the format settings in Xvid4PSP.
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i do know that it isnt a player, what do you use?
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
i tried core--sucks for me... but i did not convert formats before trying..
amkaos said:
i do know that it isnt a player, what do you use?
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
i tried core--sucks for me... but i did not convert formats before trying..
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I use Core Player for videos. Videos converted with XviD4PSP using my settings does not play well in WM player. You can try it with some other settings.
Here are my current settings:
- Format: MP4 iPod 5.0G
- Denoise/Sharpen: Disabled
- Brightness/Contrast: Disabled
- Video encoding: XviD HQ Ultra
- Audio encoding: AAC-LC ABR 128
I don't know what you mean with "bigger vids", but I use it for converting my divx/xvid movies and shows to MP4 and it works well. I think it supports even DVD files, but i didn't try that.
Last time i checked it took 6 minutes to convert some 30 minutes divx show to MP4 (Athlon X2 4000+, 2GB RAM, GeForce 8800GT).
One more thing about Core Player
Core Player with default setup gives me audio out of sync. But you can adjust that in options.
i tried those settings and didn't get a good result
works now i have upgraded coreplayer ... thanks alot
felixthecat said:
have lookedeverywhere for pocket divx encoder but unable to d/l it can anyone post please?
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this was the first result when I googled it. Follow this link
http://files.filefront.com/PocketDivX+Encoder+0360exe/;9172092;/fileinfo.html
Take care
Rod
hotrod101 said:
Pocket Divx encoder
I had the same problem with my touch. TCPMP would not play large video's .avi even though it supports it. I used Pocket Divx Encoder to reduce the .avi according to my screen size and now I can watch any .avi without any problems and the audio and picture is still incredibly clear. I max out video and audio quality still with no problems during playback.
Pocket Divx Encoder is free
Hope this works for you and enjoy your video's
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I use it also. I watch moives on my phone and it works fine playing full screen and BT stereo.
try the new win 6.1 that att put out for the tilt... it might be more stable since it is the new shipping rom

Video performance

Hi,
How is the video performance of this HTC Diamond?
Do you still need to re-encode the video file?
Or you can throw in "regular" 700 MB Xvid video file and it will be played flawlessly?
Thanks.
So far I have not faced any problems in playing 700MB full movies I hve never re-encoded the video files I play it on TCPMP player.... hope it helps....
No problem playing 1,4 Gb film that is stored on your LAN harddrive and youre viewing it through WiFi. Hope that proves Diamond is a performance beast (but dont hold it in your palm or youll get yourself a nice burn mark.
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No problem playing 1,4 Gb film that is stored on your LAN harddrive and youre viewing it through WiFi. Hope that proves Diamond is a performance beast (but dont hold it in your palm or youll get yourself a nice burn mark.
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Well I wouldn't go that far. My hx4700 still outperforms the Diamond on hi-res videos. And I am using Raw Framebuffer, not the ATI switch on the hx4700. Using ATI is pretty much absolutely flawless except for the green tint bug.
Some videos fly on the Diamond, some are slow, some are real slow. Encoding methods really make the difference. Much more obvious on the Diamond.
I can't use TCPMP. I tried 3 different ROMs and everytime it crashes at the beginning.
Spuggi said:
I can't use TCPMP. I tried 3 different ROMs and everytime it crashes at the beginning.
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Installed both
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab
they both crash upon loading and just say refer to crash.txt. done a search for it, but cannot find.
rscreen said:
Installed both
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab
they both crash upon loading and just say refer to crash.txt. done a search for it, but cannot find.
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yep, exactly this message With core player i have only a purple image, no movie, tried with several file types. In Media Player i can play .mp4 files, but its really hard to convert everything before playing -.-
Coreplayer watching XVID's seems fine to me
also looks ace on a screen like this
The HTC default player as well as the WMP player in Diamond can both play MP4 videos encoded with H.264, the same codec that is supported by flash player 9 or later. The performance seems good so far. Haven't done any bench mark testing though.

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