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Hi,
I am off to India for 2 weeks, with my trusty Tytn. What is the cheapest and best way to get good gprs coverage with a fair daily allowance on PAYG? Or am I being a bit too hopeful.
Thanks in advance.....
GPRS in India
Hi there,
I just came across your querry,
sorry for the late reply but I rarely go off-topic,I have Exec.
For GPRS there are several service providers , the fastest & the cheapest is Airtel.
For Rs.12 per day only you get the Mobile Office service , in which you have full access or for Rs. 5 per day you get the NET ON PHONE in which ther is a limited access.
kalya said:
Hi there,
I just came across your querry,
sorry for the late reply but I rarely go off-topic,I have Exec.
For GPRS there are several service providers , the fastest & the cheapest is Airtel.
For Rs.12 per day only you get the Mobile Office service , in which you have full access or for Rs. 5 per day you get the NET ON PHONE in which ther is a limited access.
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Thank you very much.
airtel gives the best speeds possible today with Edge support i do up 2 20 k download speeds ... and its unlimited
I am getting unlimited GPRS for 250 INR from Airtel. Speeds arent much but they claim EDGE services.
I think GSM and GPRS rates are one of the lowest in India.
--Sid
Unlimited for 250?
I've been paying Rs. 140.00 / week, ever since I got here 3 months ago... and I managed to get a post paid connection since I'm gonna be in India for another 4 months. Speeds arent great though.
Anyways what about this 250 Unlimited?
Just got back
Hi All,
Thanks for your help with GPRS. It was a little more tricky than I thought it would be. You can't get a PAYG Sim if you don't live in India, you also need 2 passport photos. When you get the sim you have to get gprs activated, then send an SMS to 696 with MO in the body to start mobile office. After this 19 rps are taken everyday until you cancel it, but you do get unlimited internet.
It was also tricky to get the GPRS network settings as I couldn't manage to contact them using the phone. In the end I phoned someone in UK with internet access for the settings for Airtel. The main one being airtelgprs.com as the access point name.
Anyway the coverage was great and recommend it to anyone roaming it India.
I am paying Re. 1 for 100 KB to Airtel... which is very costly.
the gprs and call rates in India are way below.
Anyway my package rate is 16 RS per MB and i use about 400-500 Rs Gprs daily. (PAK)
I am due to renew my T-mobile contract. I currently have the 40meg web and walk but I could do sooo much more with this phone and more bandwidth per month.
I saw in another thread that the Dutch get better deals (unlimited internet for 20 euro), and wondered if anyone knows how I could get as good a deal in the UK for unlimited internet use.
I also ideally want about 200 mins and a few hundred texts should any tariff guru's be reading
Cheers,
Joe
Currently with Three. 400mins, 200texts, 60 Video Calls, 512MB Data = £15 / month!
awharton said:
Currently with Three. 400mins, 200texts, 60 Video Calls, 512MB Data = £15 / month!
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Isnt Three completely closed though, i.e they wont let you use the web on a non three branded phone?
also that tariff does not exist with current three stores, it must be a loyalty scheme provided by a recent upgrade. so no use to a new customer.
Hi all,
Finally out of contract on my hermes with orange and looking to move to t-mobile for the W+W 35 contract.
I am sure i saw a thread where someone posted a link to a website that they reccomended doing the phone for free. Ive looked everywhere and cant seem to find it.
Failing that are there any companies that are reccomended that are doing good offers at the moment.
Thanks in advance
I know a friend bought one from vodafone on a price plan that works out at 38 per month and he got the phone free.
He might have gone to vodafone direct.
can you not upgrade on orange for free?
I probably can mate but their data plan sucks big time and i can only really use the net off peak.
I was looking to go to tmob so i can surf whilst at work during the day.
I think voda is pretty stingy on their allowance as well.
Hi,
got my Vario III for free from a T-Mobile store on Oxford street on an 18 month £27.50 p/m tariff with unlimited data use - the phone would have been £50 but the guy gave it for free if I took out insurance - cancelled the Direct Debit when it got set up. Didn't see a reasonable tariff online where the Kaiser was free though.
Pete.
Keepoffthegrass said:
I probably can mate but their data plan sucks big time and i can only really use the net off peak.
I was looking to go to tmob so i can surf whilst at work during the day.
I think voda is pretty stingy on their allowance as well.
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It is always worth contacting Orange Customer Retentions on the pretence of getting a PAC off them, depending on your monthly spend you may find they are able to offer much better deals or even match Tmob priceplans.
They wouldn't bend at all for me so I jumped to Tmob 2 years ago and haven't looked back since.
Zoidy said:
Hi,
got my Vario III for free from a T-Mobile store on Oxford street on an 18 month £27.50 p/m tariff with unlimited data use - the phone would have been £50 but the guy gave it for free if I took out insurance - cancelled the Direct Debit when it got set up. Didn't see a reasonable tariff online where the Kaiser was free though.
Pete.
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Agree with the chappy above. You're best off walking into a T-Mobile shop to get the phone for free on the w'n'w flext 35 tariff.
I got mine back at the start of November for free on that very tariff (amazing feat to pull off then, by the way) due to taking out insurance for the phone, which I cancelled in less than a week. The salesman even told me to cancel the insurance when trying to sell me the contract. I'm on an 18 month contract, mind, but considering what other providers offer in terms of data allowance, I can live with T-Mobile for a year and a half. Besides, the salesman messed up when selling me the phone, as he pushed the HSDPA aspect of the phone, saying I could use it on normal web'n'walk. Found out later that I needed web'n'walk plus (extra £5 a month) to have HSDPA enabled and working. Complained to CS about it, and was called later by a CS manager who told me that he'd added web'n'walk plus to my contract for free for the entire 18 months. So, I'm lucky in that I have my phone on flext 35 with web'n'walk plus, with the Vario III free on an 18 month contract for just over £37 a month. Remember, this was back in November, not long after the Vario III became available. Web'n'Walk plus is the only way you'll get use out of HSDPA with T-Mobile....and it has a FUP of 3gb per month. Web'n'Walk only has a 1gb allowance, and no HSDPA. Those who bought their Vario IIIs before November had HSDPA enabled on Web'N'Walk...T-Mobile changed it when they saw how many people on basic W'n'W were hooking up their laptops to their phones to use the HSDPA connection.
Thanskfor the replys chaps,
The supervisor in the shop could do no more than £30 off the handset price. He said this was the max he could authorise.
The dept Area manager is in on monday and should be able to give a better discount so i will call them back then.
I do think t-mob is the way to go. I thought of playing the retentions trick with orange but the amount of data you get on the unlimited plan is puny.
vodafone V1615
After much research I found the cheapest free deal at vodafone (I chose vodafone as their kaisers are unlocked), was free v1615, for £26 / month 18 months business single phone for 300 mins / month, unlimited landline calls, and calls to vodafone numbers on business tariffs. Since I was changing from Orange business, Vodafone paid me a bounty of £150 (I had to ask for this). The only problem was number porting, as I had to have the PAC when I bought the first phone.
my calc
Cost
sim free unlocked kaiser £449 expansys
vodafone
£25+vat * 18 = £549
-bounty £150
= True cost £399 or £22/month
includes 18months insurance.
I only get 50 texts/month, but I use a free web service for that.
mrg2003 said:
After much research I found the cheapest free deal at vodafone (I chose vodafone as their kaisers are unlocked), was free v1615, for £26 / month 18 months business single phone for 300 mins / month, unlimited landline calls, and calls to vodafone numbers on business tariffs. Since I was changing from Orange business, Vodafone paid me a bounty of £150 (I had to ask for this). The only problem was number porting, as I had to have the PAC when I bought the first phone.
my calc
Cost
sim free unlocked kaiser £449 expansys
vodafone
£25+vat * 18 = £549
-bounty £150
= True cost £399 or £22/month
includes 18months insurance.
I only get 50 texts/month, but I use a free web service for that.
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The problem with vodafone is the absolutely abysmal data allowance you get. The OP is after a decent data allowance to use the phone to its full advantage. T-Mobile is the way to go with this one, as it's great on data allowance in comparison to Vodafone. Unlocking is easy enough...there's a thread on here showing you exactly what to do...my Vario III is now debranded and unlocked.
OP, try a different T-Mobile shop if you can. Each shop is given an allowance per month which they can use to discount phones. It could well be that the shop you visited doesn't have much of its allowance left to play with. What I forgot to mention in my earlier post was that I went to another T-Mobile shop before finally getting my phone/contract from my local T-Mobile shop. The first one (city centre shop) said I would have to pay £60 for the phone if I took out an 18month flext35 contract with insurance and web'n'walk (discounted from £120). A few days later, I popped into my local (small town) shop. They let me have the phone for free on the same deal. They explained about the allowance thing. Also told me they only had 2 Vario IIIs in stock and don't normally get asked about them, as the Vario III doesn't fit with the demographics of the town. Their most popular phone back in Nov. 07 was the N95.
O2 do an "unlimited" plan (Fair use of 200Mb) for £7.50, but they really suck at promoting it (although their iPhone tariff has a higher fair use limit)...
One thing I do recommend - get some free SIM cards and use an unlocked phone to try out the signal. A lot of my friends who are on T-Mobile are getting annoyed with their apprent lack of coverage around their home. You may think it is not a problem with people claiming "99.9% coverage" (or whatever), but I know at least one village where the ONLY reception is on Orange.
Ok, I know this isnt really the place for this post - but my motives will become clear. My faithful Vario II is now reaching the end of its useful life (the battery dies without warning and lasts about 4 hours max at the moment). Its served me well these past 18 months.
I need a phone with Qwerty and WM, plus 3G is useful so the obvious choice is the Kaiser/TyTN II/Vario III/Stella. With that in mind I've been looking at rejoining o2 now they have released unlimited data (again! - I've still got my o2 genie sim card with unlimited WAP somewhere). T-mobiles service can be shocking at best, especially when in London when you'd expect full signal, sometimes it can take 2-3 minutes to make one call. So I put it to the floor - these are the current state of the offers I've recieved - and you'll see its a tough choice.
o2 (Business)
34.68 + VAT (41ish pounds) / Month
700 minutes, 450 texts
200Mb data (business contracts are like that)
Free o2 to o2 calls
Free voicemail
Free land line calls for 3 months - then to 10 changable landline numbers for the rest
free international call option thing (80% off all international calls)
free bluetooth headset
Free 3 months line rental
Phone - £76
However - 24 month contract - upgrade available after 12 months
T-mobile (this is where it gets interesting - after explaining the o2 deal)
£35 / month (inc VAT)
Flex 35 + Web and Walk (2Gb data) (equates to a combination of 900 minutes / 1800 texts, not both)
Free weekend calls
Free voicemail
(heres the interesting part) - Free USB Modem with data (laptop dongle).
18 month contract.
Free Phone.
What do you think? its a tough decision - even if I go for the stella on o2's consumer tarrifs id have to pay a whopping £90 for the phone. - and that usb modem could be useful...
If you push O2 hard you can get the phone for free. I did on the same business tariff, but it was an upgrade as opposed to a new contract. Tell them the phone is free with t-mobile & Orange (http://www.fones4free.com/FrontOffice/YourDealPage.aspx?ModelName=TyTN 2&DealReference=WGEX21).
Then at the last minute say you won't sign for 24 months & see if they reduce it to 12. They did for me.
As someone who is tied into a T-Mobile deal at the moment, it's a no-brainer. Coverage is everything - the best deal in the world is no comfort without a signal! Vodafone or O2 for me when I leave this contract.
chuk
crazy horse uk said:
As someone who is tied into a T-Mobile deal at the moment, it's a no-brainer. Coverage is everything - the best deal in the world is no comfort without a signal! Vodafone or O2 for me when I leave this contract.
chuk
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Can't argue there - without coverage, what matter the contract deal. Personally I have great T-Mobile coverage, which is why I swapped from O2. If your coverage from T-Mobile is OK, then the deal looks great
I'm on O2, and I live and work in areas with poor coverage but I always have 2 bars of 2G when inside. My GF and some work mates have orange and get no coverage at all.
This is todo with the 900mhz frequency that o2 and vodaphone uses (See here).
Depends on what you need.
I'd go for the T-Mobile deal. I'm on an 18 month contract, having left 3. Before I was with 3, I was with 02. I also had a Vodaphone contract running whilst with 3, but have recently dumped that. S, you could say I've tried everyone. T-Mobile coverage is great in my neck of the woods - and I'm out in the sticks...I even get HSDPA where I am, and I'm rural. Money-wise and deal-wise, T-Mobile is your best bet.
Bothsound ok, but as Crazy Horse said, make sure your coverage is going to be good. Tip - Google for "free O2 SIM" (here's a link). It's free (as in literally - you don't have to do an initial topup) and it will let you know whether it is going to work for you.
If you are already on T-Mobile then you should know whether that will work for you.
Thanks guys. T-mobile signal can be annoying - but as I'm in london most of time signal is OK.. The frustrating thing is the lack of t-mob signal downstairs in my house - whilst o2 is kinda border line!
Does o2 has HSPA yet?
your either a very VERY good customer with t-mobile or they have lied to you. if the offer was true it will not be available for very long, i work on the loyalty team in t-mobile and that offer has broken several different policys. so i would confirm that offer from them if i was you
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Thanks guys. T-mobile signal can be annoying - but as I'm in london most of time signal is OK.. The frustrating thing is the lack of t-mob signal downstairs in my house - whilst o2 is kinda border line!
Does o2 has HSPA yet?
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Yes o2 has HSDPA, but it's not up to full speed yet. I believe it is currently running at 1.8mbps. I am getting full signal HSDPA in south london.
Also, are you aware that o2 re-launched their tarrifs on Friday?? The data bolt-ons are now "truly unlimited" (with a few limitations Ha Ha Ha, FUP applies etc.).
Unlimited data can be added for FREE to any 18month consumer tarrif that is £35pm+.
yep - but I prefer to bill through the business - thus i go for a business tariff, sure its 24 months, but I get the added bonus of 3 months free (paying for the phone) and an upgrade after 3 months..
I still cant decide. Right now I have GPRS and one bar on t-mobile in my home office - not great..
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your either a very VERY good customer with t-mobile or they have lied to you. if the offer was true it will not be available for very long, i work on the loyalty team in t-mobile and that offer has broken several different policys. so i would confirm that offer from them if i was you
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What part breaks the policies.... from what I've been told its £20 off a deal they were offering for £50, which is Flex 35 + Usb modem with unlimited date.... thus working out £30 pm, (then plus the 7.50 I would need for WnW on the mobile).
they cant send a phone and a usb modem out from the same account the modem is classed as a phone. it can be done but it shoul not be done
also web & walk is web & walk once its on your line u can use the same sim in a modem or a handset you dont need 2 different options. None of it sound right thats all i would just advise you double check it with them
nah it would be two separate accounts - "a new deal" which normally would be £50 pm but they were offering it at £30 to me.
However I just asked for the £20 discount - now i have flext 35 + wnw and a free phone for 22.50pm.
I am about to transfer from O2 to (probably) t-mobile as I can no longer get my Kaiser to work where I live (and work).
I have made several calls to O2, in which they have admitted to "upgrading" my local transmitter a week last Friday. Since then, my Kaiser cannot make or receive calls (or use GPRS/3G etc) within about a couple of mile radius of my house. The display shows a very strong signal and (usually) the "H" or "3G" symbols.
O2 continue to say things like "your (Kaiser) phone is not compatible with the O2 network" and "you definitely have a defective phone". This is despite me pointing out that I have used the phone on their network since November and I can still use it everywhere else in this country.
As I work at home (for myself), my mobile phone is very important to me and I now have to remember to swap my SIM card into my old Nokia 6310i when I get back home.
So, I have no real alternative to switching away from O2 as they have refused to investigate the issue.
Does anyone have any bad news to tell me about reception in the Midlands on t-mobile (or any other network) before I take the plunge? Alternatively, is it really my fault that I am unable to use my Kaiser phone when I am at home?
You've got me worried now - I'm just about to jump from T-Mobile to O2 because of coverage problems! I didn't have any problems with O2 before, but then I never had a 3G phone before. I notice the free O2 sim deal has dried up - perhaps I should try a month's O2 sim-only deal to check coverage.
chuk
Hi Guys,
I was wondering what network you are using your note on, and how your finding it?
I'm currently on O2, but they aren't doing for free on upgrade yet. The Retention team have told me to wait till Monday before they will know if they are getting it to provide me a better deal.
Meanwhile, I've seen this deal on Phones 4 U. It's on Vodafone and the price plan seems pretty decent (free phone, £46/month for 18months, 900mins, 750MB) compared to anything O2 have to offer on their website at the moment (£105 for the phone, £51/month for 18months, 900mins, 1GB).
Dilemma:
Do I wait (impatiently!!) to see if the O2 Retention team will get it?? (Might be this Monday, might be longer!!!)
Do I jump ship and go with the Vodafone deal from Phones4U??
Do I just get a Nexus......??
All opinions will be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks in advance!
carphonewarehouse (24 contract)
vodafone : free phone £41 a month , 900 mins. unlimited text . 750Mb data and 2Gb BT wifi hotspot
or £79 for phone , £36 a month , 600 mins ,unlimited text , 500Mb data and 2Gb BT wifi hotspot
Wait till monday, haggle to get the deals posted above, but at the same time, figure out how much you really need, and see if GiffGaff + Note off amazon.de (~£460) works out cheaper.
I got myn from amazon.de for £468 then got a sim only plan from T-mobile 300min any network + 300 texts + Unlimited internet for £7.75
ik911 said:
I got myn from amazon.de for £468 then got a sim only plan from T-mobile 300min any network + 300 texts + Unlimited internet for £7.75
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nice. where can i get the same tariff ? i cannot see on the T-mobile site with that price and with unlimited internet. Thanks you
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nice. where can i get the same tariff ? i cannot see on the T-mobile site with that price and with unlimited internet. Thanks you
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You need to call them
I got mine from Amazon.de for £469
i'm on virgin sim only 800 minutes , 3000 texts, 3000 virgin to virgin minutes 1gb Internet all for £7.53 per month on a 30 day rolling contract
Thanks for the reply guys.
I'm not really looking to buy the phone in cash up front. Especially since £450+ is quite hard to part with in one go.
Also, I'm not looking at other networks apart from O2 and Vodafone as most of them generally have bad customer service or low quality network service.
I'm also not willing to do a 24 month contract. Technology is improving at such a fast rate these days that in 1 years time, the Note will become old school, so ideally, I'd like to upgrade again in 12-18 months.
Does anyone use Vodafone? What are they like generally and for data connection?
Has anyone moved from O2 to Vodafone and seen it as an upgrade in network service?
Thanks guys!!
Hi Shadh1
I got mine from Phones4U online on Vodafone (£24 month contract, Free phone, £41 a month, 900 mins, unlimited text, 750Mb data and 3 month free 2Gb wifi hotspot).
In my opinion (nearly 20 years of mobile use and some of those years managing corporate mobile contracts for businesses) Vodafone currently have the better data network. Voice wise i think they are both as good/bad as each other. As with most things though this is always subjective!
Enjoy your note when you get it, it is really really worth it !
Im on O2. Was on Simplicity.
I got Internet All Rounder 300. 300 mins, unlimited texts, 1gb data, 50mms. £36 PM.
Phone cost £90, would have only been £60 for new customers.
That was from buymobiles. Same deal from O2 was £150
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Thanks for the reply guys.
Also, I'm not looking at other networks apart from O2 and Vodafone as most of them generally have bad customer service or low quality network service.
Thanks guys!!
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I never had a problem with Virgin. Always very very fast data and good reception always.
£468 SIM free from amazon.de and giffgaff PAYG for my airtime and data. I'm a light user and chomp through credit at the rate of around £3 per month so over 2 years my total cost will be around £540 give or take.
If you don't have the money to pay upfront, try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19664438&postcount=20
Use GiffGaff and be a winner
I had a really bad experience with Phoens4u, basically they do not have any stock, and this is an update from yesterday (24/11/11), I just ordered mine from buymobilephones.net on t-mobile, £30 a month, 900 minutes, 500 texts, 500mb internet and phone for £49.99. They have confirmed delivery for tomorrow.
What ever you do, DO NOT GO TO Phones4U, they messed me around for 2 weeks. Nightmare!!!
Similar to a few people here I bought my Note offline and using it with my Vodafone sim-only contract. No problems at all using the Note in Vodafone, I haven't even needed to change a single setting for data.
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I got myn from amazon.de for £468 then got a sim only plan from T-mobile 300min any network + 300 texts + Unlimited internet for £7.75
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I would like to get unlimited internet for £7.75 a month. Can you post a link for I've not been able to find the deal on the T-mobile web site?
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I would like to get unlimited internet for £7.75 a month. Can you post a link for I've not been able to find the deal on the T-mobile web site?
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Call them, they seem to have removed it from the website
Shadh1 said:
Thanks for the reply guys.
I'm not really looking to buy the phone in cash up front. Especially since £450+ is quite hard to part with in one go.
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Have a look at moneysavingexpert.com for the best credit cards with 12-18m interest free periods. Set up a standing order to pay it off monthly then get a cheap sim only deal.
SIMples!
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am with t-mobile, was due an upgrade but they do not yet offer this handset and do not know if/when they will be, which is odd since Orange do and they are merged nowadays. Went to CPW and T-mo covered most of the cost of the upgrade price, so I paid £70 with a £35 monthly contract, 18-months. For that I have 1200mins, 500 text, 3Gb internet with webNwalk plus, and an unlimited landline booster. Not 100% sure on the internet though as I'd heard T-mo capped all to 500M since beginning of the month, but that was what I was told by the T-mo support person as we changed the tarrif. I see download rates of up to 1800Kbps which is pretty reasonable.
Note though, none in store a couple days ago, so ordered by phone, was shipped next day delivery from warehouse.
Phones4U don't seem to offer upgrades on T-mo and want to persuade you to switch. They were offering the handset free on a 46/month contract with Voda, same deal as already mentioned, and apparently would cover the cost to terminate from your current provider if near the end, but when I did the math, £11/month over 24 months would have been 3x the handset cost I paid, so not worth thinking about.
Dave
Sub 450 UKP for the phone and 3/three network. 25 quid per month, rolling monthly. Complete freedom but that is 950 quid over 2 years... So it's do as I say and not as I do, for I haven't got 450 to 'spunk' on one of these just yet, either (HD2 still).
There's even a topcashback refund, although it's a bit iffy in my experience. I never got paid out by Three...
Absolutely all you can eat data. I hammer it all day long......Two networked pc's, streamed music, tv...Watching tv and on this now, through the SIM...
2,000 any network minutes
5,000 Three-to-Three minutes
5,000 texts
All-you-can-eat Data
Free Voicemail
Or there are some all you can eat refurbs for 13 quid a month. 24 months, flog the phone, 300/500 mins, 5,000! txts....Now that is tempting..
Am looking at GiffGaff too, but it's about as clear as mud if you can tether with them. Basically it's a No, from what I can gather..