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T-Mobile Vario III UK released on 26 Sep

The phone was released on 26 Sep afternoon.
Just ordered mine. Delivery on Fri. There were 15 left when I placed the call, none 5 minutes later.
Spoke to the cancellations department, or whatever is called.

Yep, 6 left when i called, delivery tommorrow...

Ooo, maybe that means I'll actually get mine today rather than another Compact III. I await in anticipation!

no mention
there is no mention of this on the tmobile website,
i will happily give my hermes300 away when i get this

Cheers for the heads up, mine will be here before 1pm tommorow

Just spoken to T-mobile uk to get an upgrade and they wouldn't even give me a price as "it's not out until October"
How have people managed to find someone who says different?

same here - thanks for the heads up Dan!
Read this thread last night at about midnight and thought I might have missed the boat, but phoned up new connections this morning at around 9am and ordered mine (think they said they had about 45 or so in stock at the time).
PAC code activated and delivery before 1pm tomorrow... woo hoo!
Goodbye Orange and thanks for all the erm.... (oh yeah... not a lot!!! )

I'm tempted to upgrade to this (even though i've bought a standalone Kaiser in the meantime) then just flog it on e-bay

Called a couple times this morning said they were out of stock until October !
Called back the guy said he just had an email and they got more stock so Ive ordered mine, coming before 1pm tomorrow.
What prices did you guys pay? I paid £80 on a 18 month with free eves & weekends, I was promised £60 on a 12 month contract but wanted the order to hurry and go through so ill call back and argue that...lol
Also what tarifs and deals did you get?

wow that sounds really cheap :O
I wonder how much the upgrade price will be....

Pooper said:
wow that sounds really cheap :O
I wonder how much the upgrade price will be....
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That was the upgrade price ! normal price is £280

Xerxes8933a said:
Goodbye Orange and thanks for all the erm.... (oh yeah... not a lot!!! )
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LOL you won't be saying that once you try the service
I'm considering changing to T-Mobile myself for the cheaper calls and unlimited data but to be honest I've had several business phones with them and my girlfriend and sister in law are with them and the signal often disappears in places you'd never expect it.
If you're always close to town then it probably isn't a problem but I don't think their coverage is anything like they advertise

TechXL said:
LOL you won't be saying that once you try the service
I'm considering changing to T-Mobile myself for the cheaper calls and unlimited data but to be honest I've had several business phones with them and my girlfriend and sister in law are with them and the signal often disappears in places you'd never expect it.
If you're always close to town then it probably isn't a problem but I don't think their coverage is anything like they advertise
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I can vouch for that! It does depend on the phone to a certain extent, but their coverage is far from the best. Luckily it's good enough around where I live and work to not cause an issue, but there are places close-by that have horrible reception.
I'm with T-Mobile for their tariffs, not their coverage!

My T-Mobile MDA Vario III should be here tomorrow as well.

Im on Flext 20, and paid £30 to upgrade.
Why? They owed me one. Or 250!

Hmmm I wonder how much they'll go for on e-bay etc....

TechXL said:
LOL you won't be saying that once you try the service
I'm considering changing to T-Mobile myself for the cheaper calls and unlimited data but to be honest I've had several business phones with them and my girlfriend and sister in law are with them and the signal often disappears in places you'd never expect it.
If you're always close to town then it probably isn't a problem but I don't think their coverage is anything like they advertise
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Heh...
If Orange spent as much time and effort in providing a decent (and courteous) level of customer care as they do on thinking up silly animal names for talk plans then I might still be with them (it's a long story... ).
Thankfully, I live and spend most of my time in one of the bigger cities here in the UK so I can't imagine there being too many problems with getting/holding a signal (well no more than I experienced with Orange in certain areas).
Besides I have 14 days to play with it and if it really sucks that bad they can have it back

I've been waiting for these to arrive on T-Mobile so I can move across from O2. Went into the local T-Mobile shop today and they said not in yet, but have taken my phone number and will call me when they get them.
In the meantime, I went across the road to the O2 shop, to just check what they can offer me (clearly not a Kaiser, as they don't so them... yet). They guy in the shop said, "yes T-mobile have had better data plans for a long time, but I would highly recommend waiting until Monday, as we are announcing some new plans that include unlimited data, and they will put T-mobile to shame... and I've been waiting for a LONG time to say that... and thought it might never happen! We also have new phones being released, but I can't say anything more."
Not sure what he means, but I will now wait for Monday and hope he isn't just pulling my leg and spouting marketing speak, but he seemed genuinely excited by it all!
I don't think they will have the kaiser, so I will probably still go with T-Mobile, but I do like O2 all the same! And being with them for 9 years should mean I get a good discount on any tariff I pick with them. But any ideas how I could get the Kaiser onto O2 at a reasonable price.
Should I get a "no-phone tariff" and buy it unlocked? Or should I get the most expensive (and re-saleable) phone I can from them, and flog it on Ebay to fund my unlocked Kaiser. Or should I dump O2 and move to T-mobile and be done with it?
The comments here about poor network coverage on T-Mobile worry me, and the O2 guy said the same (albeit, he would wouldn't he!), and boasted about the strength of the O2 network. I certainly seem to get signal everywhere with O2! (except inside my house! but T-Mobile are no better in my house either!)
Decisions, Decisions....
Mike

xpcomputers said:
I've been waiting for these to arrive on T-Mobile so I can move across from O2. Went into the local T-Mobile shop today and they said not in yet, but have taken my phone number and will call me when they get them.
In the meantime, I went across the road to the O2 shop, to just check what they can offer me (clearly not a Kaiser, as they don't so them... yet). They guy in the shop said, "yes T-mobile have had better data plans for a long time, but I would highly recommend waiting until Monday, as we are announcing some new plans that include unlimited data, and they will put T-mobile to shame... and I've been waiting for a LONG time to say that... and thought it might never happen! We also have new phones being released, but I can't say anything more."
Not sure what he means, but I will now wait for Monday and hope he isn't just pulling my leg and spouting marketing speak, but he seemed genuinely excited by it all!
I don't think they will have the kaiser, so I will probably still go with T-Mobile, but I do like O2 all the same! And being with them for 9 years should mean I get a good discount on any tariff I pick with them. But any ideas how I could get the Kaiser onto O2 at a reasonable price.
Should I get a "no-phone tariff" and buy it unlocked? Or should I get the most expensive (and re-saleable) phone I can from them, and flog it on Ebay to fund my unlocked Kaiser. Or should I dump O2 and move to T-mobile and be done with it?
The comments here about poor network coverage on T-Mobile worry me, and the O2 guy said the same (albeit, he would wouldn't he!), and boasted about the strength of the O2 network. I certainly seem to get signal everywhere with O2! (except inside my house! but T-Mobile are no better in my house either!)
Decisions, Decisions....
Mike
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Do they put T-Mobile to shame?. I think not.
Note 200MB fair use policy! LOL!
O2 launches unlimited data packages
12:56AM Thu 27 September 2007
O2 will launch unlimited data downloads on 1 October for its prepay and contract customers for £7.50 a month.
The package is for users wanting to browse the internet and send emails and comes with a fair usage policy that offers around 200MB a month, which is equivalent to around 1,400 web pages.
The service is the same price as T-Mobile's Web'n'Walk package, which gives users 1GB of usage a month.
The network will also launch O2 Web Max for customers who want to connect their handset to a PC or use a data card. This costs £30 a month and comes with 3GB of usage a month.
Business customers have also been targeted by O2 with a service called Unlimited BlackBerry. This gives users unlimited access to the internet on BlackBerry with a fair usage policy of 200MB at £10 a month. It is aimed at customers who want to browse the web while their email is pushed to their handset via the BlackBerry service.
http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/content/16929.asp?men=2&sub=6

congratulations to all of you in europe! hopefully the AT&T version will hit the uS soon.

Uk T-Mobile where ?

Hi all,
Finally out of contract on my hermes with orange and looking to move to t-mobile for the W+W 35 contract.
I am sure i saw a thread where someone posted a link to a website that they reccomended doing the phone for free. Ive looked everywhere and cant seem to find it.
Failing that are there any companies that are reccomended that are doing good offers at the moment.
Thanks in advance

I know a friend bought one from vodafone on a price plan that works out at 38 per month and he got the phone free.
He might have gone to vodafone direct.
can you not upgrade on orange for free?

I probably can mate but their data plan sucks big time and i can only really use the net off peak.
I was looking to go to tmob so i can surf whilst at work during the day.
I think voda is pretty stingy on their allowance as well.

Hi,
got my Vario III for free from a T-Mobile store on Oxford street on an 18 month £27.50 p/m tariff with unlimited data use - the phone would have been £50 but the guy gave it for free if I took out insurance - cancelled the Direct Debit when it got set up. Didn't see a reasonable tariff online where the Kaiser was free though.
Pete.

Keepoffthegrass said:
I probably can mate but their data plan sucks big time and i can only really use the net off peak.
I was looking to go to tmob so i can surf whilst at work during the day.
I think voda is pretty stingy on their allowance as well.
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It is always worth contacting Orange Customer Retentions on the pretence of getting a PAC off them, depending on your monthly spend you may find they are able to offer much better deals or even match Tmob priceplans.
They wouldn't bend at all for me so I jumped to Tmob 2 years ago and haven't looked back since.

Zoidy said:
Hi,
got my Vario III for free from a T-Mobile store on Oxford street on an 18 month £27.50 p/m tariff with unlimited data use - the phone would have been £50 but the guy gave it for free if I took out insurance - cancelled the Direct Debit when it got set up. Didn't see a reasonable tariff online where the Kaiser was free though.
Pete.
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Agree with the chappy above. You're best off walking into a T-Mobile shop to get the phone for free on the w'n'w flext 35 tariff.
I got mine back at the start of November for free on that very tariff (amazing feat to pull off then, by the way) due to taking out insurance for the phone, which I cancelled in less than a week. The salesman even told me to cancel the insurance when trying to sell me the contract. I'm on an 18 month contract, mind, but considering what other providers offer in terms of data allowance, I can live with T-Mobile for a year and a half. Besides, the salesman messed up when selling me the phone, as he pushed the HSDPA aspect of the phone, saying I could use it on normal web'n'walk. Found out later that I needed web'n'walk plus (extra £5 a month) to have HSDPA enabled and working. Complained to CS about it, and was called later by a CS manager who told me that he'd added web'n'walk plus to my contract for free for the entire 18 months. So, I'm lucky in that I have my phone on flext 35 with web'n'walk plus, with the Vario III free on an 18 month contract for just over £37 a month. Remember, this was back in November, not long after the Vario III became available. Web'n'Walk plus is the only way you'll get use out of HSDPA with T-Mobile....and it has a FUP of 3gb per month. Web'n'Walk only has a 1gb allowance, and no HSDPA. Those who bought their Vario IIIs before November had HSDPA enabled on Web'N'Walk...T-Mobile changed it when they saw how many people on basic W'n'W were hooking up their laptops to their phones to use the HSDPA connection.

Thanskfor the replys chaps,
The supervisor in the shop could do no more than £30 off the handset price. He said this was the max he could authorise.
The dept Area manager is in on monday and should be able to give a better discount so i will call them back then.
I do think t-mob is the way to go. I thought of playing the retentions trick with orange but the amount of data you get on the unlimited plan is puny.

vodafone V1615
After much research I found the cheapest free deal at vodafone (I chose vodafone as their kaisers are unlocked), was free v1615, for £26 / month 18 months business single phone for 300 mins / month, unlimited landline calls, and calls to vodafone numbers on business tariffs. Since I was changing from Orange business, Vodafone paid me a bounty of £150 (I had to ask for this). The only problem was number porting, as I had to have the PAC when I bought the first phone.
my calc
Cost
sim free unlocked kaiser £449 expansys
vodafone
£25+vat * 18 = £549
-bounty £150
= True cost £399 or £22/month
includes 18months insurance.
I only get 50 texts/month, but I use a free web service for that.

mrg2003 said:
After much research I found the cheapest free deal at vodafone (I chose vodafone as their kaisers are unlocked), was free v1615, for £26 / month 18 months business single phone for 300 mins / month, unlimited landline calls, and calls to vodafone numbers on business tariffs. Since I was changing from Orange business, Vodafone paid me a bounty of £150 (I had to ask for this). The only problem was number porting, as I had to have the PAC when I bought the first phone.
my calc
Cost
sim free unlocked kaiser £449 expansys
vodafone
£25+vat * 18 = £549
-bounty £150
= True cost £399 or £22/month
includes 18months insurance.
I only get 50 texts/month, but I use a free web service for that.
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The problem with vodafone is the absolutely abysmal data allowance you get. The OP is after a decent data allowance to use the phone to its full advantage. T-Mobile is the way to go with this one, as it's great on data allowance in comparison to Vodafone. Unlocking is easy enough...there's a thread on here showing you exactly what to do...my Vario III is now debranded and unlocked.
OP, try a different T-Mobile shop if you can. Each shop is given an allowance per month which they can use to discount phones. It could well be that the shop you visited doesn't have much of its allowance left to play with. What I forgot to mention in my earlier post was that I went to another T-Mobile shop before finally getting my phone/contract from my local T-Mobile shop. The first one (city centre shop) said I would have to pay £60 for the phone if I took out an 18month flext35 contract with insurance and web'n'walk (discounted from £120). A few days later, I popped into my local (small town) shop. They let me have the phone for free on the same deal. They explained about the allowance thing. Also told me they only had 2 Vario IIIs in stock and don't normally get asked about them, as the Vario III doesn't fit with the demographics of the town. Their most popular phone back in Nov. 07 was the N95.

O2 do an "unlimited" plan (Fair use of 200Mb) for £7.50, but they really suck at promoting it (although their iPhone tariff has a higher fair use limit)...
One thing I do recommend - get some free SIM cards and use an unlocked phone to try out the signal. A lot of my friends who are on T-Mobile are getting annoyed with their apprent lack of coverage around their home. You may think it is not a problem with people claiming "99.9% coverage" (or whatever), but I know at least one village where the ONLY reception is on Orange.

T-mobile contract renewal - what did everyone pay?

Sorry if this has been asked before but this is my first contract and the first time iv been through the renewal process and id like to avoid walking away with a contract that iv paid more then i should have for;
How much did everyone pay for their kaiser & contract? Be it a totally new contract via phone/web site/store or via a renewal?
Iv been with them for 17 (of 18) months on a flex25 then a flex30 package due to me going over for the first 12 months (+£5-£10 over a month). Iv also signed my sister up with them, so id like to think they'll give me a good deal.
Ideally ill be looking at the kaiser on flex30 (for £25 a month with their -5£ discount) with Web n Walk. Bringing it up to £32.50 a month
cheers guys

Vodafone
£22 / month - unlimted landline calls, unlimted to vodafone business + 500 mins, 1GB data any network. I had to sign a 24 month contract. I added £2/day to my contract rate to cover this expense.

mrg2003 said:
£22 / month - unlimted landline calls, unlimted to vodafone business + 500 mins, 1GB data any network. I had to sign a 24 month contract. I added £2/day to my contract rate to cover this expense.
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He asked how much others paid for a Tilt with a T-mobile contract renewal, not how much you pay for your subscription etc
My dad has been with T-Mobile Netherlands from the start and he tried to get a good deal especially seeing that he overpaid the past few years. (Old subscription prices while they keep getting lower)
He got it for €195,- with 50% discount on his subscription for the following 2 years.

T-Mobile renewals were F-ing crap!
I've been a One2One/T-mobile customer since 1999, and when it came to upgrading from my 18 month Flext25+WnW VarioII contract to the VarioIII they offered me exactly the same deal you could get as a new customer. I must admit I had a rant at the guy in renewals, and told him Voda were offering me a much better deal (which was true) and he said he sympathised but the VarioIII was having no special deals done on it.
Told him to cancel my contract at the end of the period, and I'd go elsewhere.
Then I found that Mobileshop.com were offering the VarioIII for free on T-mobile Flext30+WnW (T-Mobile wanted me to pay over £120 for it on that contract). spoke with them and they had it in stock. So, I called T-Mobile back and told them - and got the very same guy in Renewals!!! He remembered our conversation a few days earlier, and to be fair tried to get a deal on, but couldnt do anything at all yet again.
So I took the new contract through Mobileshop.com and got the handset free. It was delivered next day, and has been superb. OK, it costs me a fiver a month more due to not getting the go-direct discount, but my wife's phone is due for renewal in a few months (some Nokia Symbian thing) so when we discuss her renewal I'm going to get them to add the loyalty discount back onto my account.
I guess the moral of the tale is "dont expect T-Mobile to do you a great deal!"

Thanks for that link Rob, iv made a note of that site and if t-mobile dont offer me a good deal i might follow your lead and go with them!
What did everyone else pay?

Andehh,
That sounds very similar to the deal that I was looking. However, T-Mobile wanted to charge me £180 for the Kiser until I told them that O2 would do it for free so I would cancel my contract if they didn't match it.
Not only did they match that offer but they ended up giving me the £5/month off on the contract as well.

Best 3g payg UK sim for diamond?

Hi, whats the best 3g pay and go sim in the UK I can get for internet access to use with a sim free diamond? I'm looking for something with a good deal on the internet usage.
Whats everyone else using?

I used to have vodafone because it was £1 a day for 20MB, probably the best deal you'll get. There are no bundles for monthly usage of the internet on any network.

3 do a internet package for £5 p/m.
Mike.

Actually...
T-Mobile also do 1 pound a day, and have a larger 'fair use' limit. 2GB if i remember corectly.
Three do monthly bundles (on prepay) eg 10 pounds a month for 1GB
http://three.co.uk/personal/products_services_/mobile_broadband_/detail.omp

Thanks guys, I might go and look in the 3 shop in town later then, I just ordered an orange payg 3g usim, I guess as no one has mentioned them here, that orange are useless at 3g payg?

I would of thought all the networks do this 1 pound a day option by now.
Pay as you go bolt on for O2 Unlimited usage on O2 Active or i-mode® subject to fair use £7.50 per month

Windoze9t8 said:
I would of thought all the networks do this 1 pound a day option by now.
Pay as you go bolt on for O2 Unlimited usage on O2 Active or i-mode® subject to fair use £7.50 per month
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Hi,
I heard bad stories about 02 and payg 3g.
Orange do some internet deal with pay montly sims, £8 a month, but as I read the offer its only 1mb? Thats all they do from what I can see.
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/yourplan/additionalservices

3uk has been £5/month for nearly a year now, youll get better speeds with t-mobile though

Any news on an O2 version of the Diamond2?

I notice the post showing the images and dates for the T-Mobile Diamond2, is there any news on an O2 version? I believe they didn't bother with the Touch HD, but since they had the Diamond, I presume they'll do the Diamond2?

The Touch HD was exclusive to Orange, thats why O2 didnt offer it unless you go to and indepentant retailer who will package the Touch HD along with an O2 tariff.
I've not heard any news about the diamond 2 being exclusive to anyone yet so i would just keeps your eyes open.
Currently mobilephonesdirect are offering the diamond 2 with T-Mobile and Vodaphone - [URL="http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/p10957.aspx#tabsAnchor"]mobilephonesdirect[/URL]

If you already have an O2 sim, consider switching to a Simplicity tariff and purchasing an unlocked D2 from Play or Amazon or one of the other suppliers mentioned in other threads.

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If you already have an O2 sim, consider switching to a Simplicity tariff and purchasing an unlocked D2 from Play or Amazon or one of the other suppliers mentioned in other threads.
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Cheers for that! As it happens, I have just done that. I've gone from £40 a month to £20 a month for pretty much the same deal, but slightly more texts, and a month-by-month rolling contract. So that's £240 a year saved to put towards a new device bought retail.

Andy, push for more
I was on simplicity back in Dec 07 when I first got it @ £25 a month
Went down to £20 after a £5 off for life loyalty discount
Went down a further £5 for more loyalty
Now paying £15 for
800mins cross-network anytime
Unlimited Blackberry
Unlimited Email
Unlimited Internet
Unlimited SMS/MMS
Not bad eh? :- )
My bills rarely now go over £18

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Andy, push for more
I was on simplicity back in Dec 07 when I first got it @ £25 a month
Went down to £20 after a £5 off for life loyalty discount
Went down a further £5 for more loyalty
Now paying £15 for
800mins cross-network anytime
Unlimited Blackberry
Unlimited Email
Unlimited Internet
Unlimited SMS/MMS
Not bad eh? :- )
My bills rarely now go over £18
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That's a good deal. They've just offered me:
400 mins
1000 texts
unlimited internet
reduced from £35/month to £20/month for loyalty
plus a £150 instant rebate, so no bills for over 6 months or an average of £11.67/month for 18 months
Perhaps I should push for more.

Just spoken with Devicewire and their delivery due today has been delayed at Customs. They're now quoting arrival on Thursday 17/4 with delivery Friday 18/4.

Another plus with an "independent" device: Firmware updates and bugfixes direct from HTC instead of waiting for the next carrier release. Can't wait for my 2-year contract to run out, I'll never buy a device tied to a carrier again.
Touching on the now-obsolete O2 question, that usually is country-specific. While the Touch HD may have been exclusive to Orange in the UK, it was exclusive to O2 in Germany.

The D2 is to be available on T-Mobile as MDA Compact 5, it does have a different shell though... I was speaking to O2 when my upgrade was due, and they said it'll probably be another month. And I here Orange will be stocking it very shortly aswell. Like others have mentioned though, you can go through the likes of MobilePhonesDirect or mobiles.co.uk and you can get the D2 on either of the 4 major networks.

i think its out in germany now, as the o2 german website below has the rom available. check out;-
http://o2online.de/nw/support/downloads/software/xda/diamond2/index.html

Any news on if UK O2 will stock D2? Im due an upgade soon

Just phones O2 Upgrades and still no news about the Diamond 2. I've got a month until I can upgrade though so I will have to wait.
Andrew.

I upgrade via the CPW over a month ago and I'm with O2

Isnt CPW different to O2 though? as in do you get to keep any current loyalty discounts etc?

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Isnt CPW different to O2 though? as in do you get to keep any current loyalty discounts etc?
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Car Phone Warehouse is separate to O2, but they do some good deals. Not sure what customer loyalty bonus gives you with O2, but I have got some good cashback deal with CPW. Currently on 600 Xnet min, 1000 texts and unlimited net usage forthe equivalent of £25 pcm. In got the misses on a SIM only upgrade last time with 800 xnet mins etc etc, for the equivalent of just over £2 pcm (yes two!!).