Diamond Vs IPhone: BoM Comparison - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

BoM Comparison from Morgan Stanley

thanks for posting this.

hmm, i think thers an error.
Afaik iphone 1.0 has no gps, only iphone 2.0

it's about the Iphone 3G (aka Iphone 2)
but what do these numbers mean? is it meant like grades?

what is bom ?

I think its an order ranking, kind of a weight ranking and its intended for business.....from the perspective of seller, not buyer CMIIW

pammoun said:
what is bom ?
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BoM -> Bill of Materials
the numbers are the prices how much each componet costs, for HTC and Apple, at the end you see for how much it summs up, and the retail price and you see how much the charge extra.
falc410 said:
it's about the Iphone 3G (aka Iphone 2)
but what do these numbers mean? is it meant like grades?
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ah that explains it, i mixed it up with the old iphone.

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Apple has just slashed the iPhone's Price

Their partner, AT&T, has a 30 day return policy so all the smart folks who just spent $599 on a 8 gig iPhone will return it for...a $399 8 gig iPhone or...a Kaiser, which will do a bit more.
C'mon ATT. Let's get on with it!
I do not show this price reduction. I also called them and they are not aware of any such reduction.
DaddyGoFast said:
I do not show this price reduction. I also called them and they are not aware of any such reduction.
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Price reduction is real and all over the net ... check out the apple store online for confirmation
Dude....you're on a WindowsMobile forum in case you didn't notice...
Who could possibly even want an iPhone over here do ya think...?
dgduris said:
Their partner, AT&T, has a 30 day return policy so all the smart folks who just spent $599 on a 8 gig iPhone will return it for...a $399 8 gig iPhone or...a Kaiser, which will do a bit more.
C'mon ATT. Let's get on with it!
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Yup! Link: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP.../wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&node=home/iphone/iphone
Maybe AT&T thinks that iCrap should not be at the same level as AT&T Tilt and lowered it's price.
$400 for an iPhone with 8gigs of memory, while the Kaiser costs $900 and you have to go out and spend $50+ on a couple gigs of flash.
Is the iPhone subsidized or is HTC ripping us off???
Sorry, if that's a stupid question, not sure what the AT&T/Apple deal is...
jamijam said:
$400 for an iPhone with 8gigs of memory, while the Kaiser costs $900 and you have to go out and spend $50+ on a couple gigs of flash.
Is the iPhone subsidized or is HTC ripping us off???
Sorry, if that's a stupid question, not sure what the AT&T/Apple deal is...
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As per rumors, AT&T Tilt will be $499 with a two-year contract. $900 Kaiser is the price you are paying for an unlocked/unbranded phone. I bet if iPhone followed the same route, you'd be paying close to a grand for it as well.
I can't help but wonder if this iPhone price drop will change pricing on 8925 with ATT
$399 for an iPhone or $499 for a 8925 ? The teeming masses will want to go the iPhone route
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What the f*$k does this have to do with the Kaiser?
The Kaiser is better than the iphone in EVERY way EXCEPT screen size.
Interface? Port it to the kaiser.
Youtube? Kaiser can do it.
Sliding unlock? Kaiser can do it.
GPS? You bet.
Revolutionary dial up internet? Kaiser has high speed.
Space? 8gb? *gasp* buy an 8gb sd card.
The iphone is crap. If anything buy that 16g modded iphone apple sells now. its the iphone without the phone! lucky you
evolution_theory said:
The Kaiser is better than the iphone in EVERY way EXCEPT screen size.
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I agree completely.
The teeming masses won't. $299 iPhone will cut in to 8925 sales for sure.
RacerX10 said:
I agree completely.
The teeming masses won't. $299 iPhone will cut in to 8925 sales for sure.
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Until the iPhone integrates well (and securely) with an exchange server, the corporate masses are going to stay with blackberry or a windows mobile device.
I already know 3 people who currently own an 8125 or an 8525 that are looking at an iPhone.
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1. There is no $299 iPhone. The 4 GB model is axed.
2. This is germane because the non-geeks (the bulk of the market) don't live on fora, they live in the world of The New Yorker and the WSJ and MTV so, a ripple in the iPhone force field can be a boon to HTC sales especially once said iPhone customer figures out that a) the iPhone is a rip, b) they might want to send an MMS, c) downloading podcasts in the wild (w/o a dock) is a cool thing to be able to do, d) 3G is more faster than Edge v3...
So HTC need to push ATT to get this king into orbit now!
hehe anyone dropping a 3g 8525 for a iphone is just slightly insain. Futhermore anyone who is considering a kaiser wont even look twice at a Iphone for the simple fact as once you look at the 2 side by side its kaiser hands down. The price drop will affect more T-mobile kiddies useing the sidekick line and helio and there ocean.
Anyways I highly doubt this will affect the kaisers sales in the slightest.
Just read somewhere in engadget last night. One of the reason (speculation) why Apple slashed the price $200 cheaper, because Apple will introduce a new "European iPhone", which has (most probably) 3G and possibility to unlock (required by european law).
So, if the price is still $600, 3G iPhone will not be able to compete with WM if the price is $700 - $800.
That's why the US iPhone is now $400, and later the 3G iPhone will be, again $600.

ATT Kaiser pricing and release update

This was posted in the $299 thread but its at the way back so I thought I would create a thread so people would have an easier time finding it. Apparently the guys at howard forums don't know jack.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/09/14/att-tilt-drops-some-knowledge-on-us/
$ 349 with 2 year sign up and data (though I imagine corp will be much cheaper)
release date is listed as late september in the docs.
Am I blind or do they not even list its GPS on there features there?
magnamar said:
Am I blind or do they not even list its GPS on there features there?
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Thats what I said, however they do mention it in the top paragraph. To be honest Ill still get it even if it doesn't have built in. All I do is put an at&t logo on my punching bag at home to take out my aggression LOL.
oh well I ordered the HTC one lol. Not a bad price on this one tho even without a contract its nice at 549.
magnamar said:
oh well I ordered the HTC one lol. Not a bad price on this one tho even without a contract its nice at 549.
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$549? I thought they were like $800?
I was saying the att one is not a bad price at 549. The htc unlocked one I got was 789.
man atnt is wack!! no front-facing camera??
projectpaki said:
man atnt is wack!! no front-facing camera??
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They dont have any video calling so whats the point of having an extra low-quality camera?
Wow, $800 HTC Kaiser it is! Screw that ugly nerfed ATT one.
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They dont have any video calling so whats the point of having an extra low-quality camera?
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they just launched video calling.
I posted this over at Howard Forums...
There's an online vendor who sells the Kaiser who is offering them to me at $700 for a group buy. If anyone is in IL and is interested, lemme know. The only reason I want to limit it to people in IL is I can drive and meet them someplace so there's no payment/shipping issues. I'm not a reseller and I don't want to be a reseller. I'm just trying to get this as cheap as possible.
-Mc
McHale said:
I posted this over at Howard Forums...
There's an online vendor who sells the Kaiser who is offering them to me at $700 for a group buy. If anyone is in IL and is interested, lemme know. The only reason I want to limit it to people in IL is I can drive and meet them someplace so there's no payment/shipping issues. I'm not a reseller and I don't want to be a reseller. I'm just trying to get this as cheap as possible.
-Mc
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I dont think $700 is that cheap though. $600 maybe, I am curious to see what "group" means and will you be able to meet the minimum order in just IL.
I have to buy 5 to get that price. I have Me and 2 buddies from work. So technically I only need 2 more. Figured I'd offer it to the forum.
They are selling them out within days of getting them in stock at 850 so they aren't making much on these at 700. I have just bought a LOT of phones from them and directed a lot of sales their way.
Once AT&T's starts selling, I would think that prices will drop a little but I don't think we'll ever see an online vendor dip below the $700 mark. MMB is $749 which is still the lowest I've seen and he's the most reliable seller I've ever dealt with.
-Mc
Correction: I just checked his website and he raised the price to $779.
McHale said:
I have to buy 5 to get that price. I have Me and 2 buddies from work. So technically I only need 2 more. Figured I'd offer it to the forum.
They are selling them out within days of getting them in stock at 850 so they aren't making much on these at 700. I have just bought a LOT of phones from them and directed a lot of sales their way.
Once AT&T's starts selling, I would think that prices will drop a little but I don't think we'll ever see an online vendor dip below the $700 mark. MMB is $749 which is still the lowest I've seen and he's the most reliable seller I've ever dealt with.
-Mc
Correction: I just checked his website and he raised the price to $779.
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5 is a good deal, but at $700 that is too much and all you get is the front camera. ATT for $400 and no front camera is MUCH easier to swallow.
wpbear said:
5 is a good deal, but at $700 that is too much and all you get is the front camera. ATT for $400 and no front camera is MUCH easier to swallow.
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I agree. I just don't want to wait forever for them to release it. I've been holding off because I wanted to see what AT&T did to it. I hate crippled devices. I'm also reluctant to put the 8925 on my account as it could get me kicked off my data plan. A generic device isn't as automated for the system to verify against your plan.
-Mc
Called ATT store by me and asked when they would have the tilt in stock, the guy put me on hold for 2 minutes and told me oct 1st. Surprised to hear he even knew about it and even more surprised to have a date they would have it in store.
Yup me too. i just went to the att store and asked them this afternoon and she said the same thing in october. color will remain the same and as already reported no front camera and so on.........
Some people are claiming that ATT in Manhattan and most of the New York city was selling the 8925 today.
why would u want to watch who u are talking to. if anything u cant lie to the wife when she wants to see where u are if she doesnt believe u .....
McHale said:
I agree. I just don't want to wait forever for them to release it. I've been holding off because I wanted to see what AT&T did to it. I hate crippled devices. I'm also reluctant to put the 8925 on my account as it could get me kicked off my data plan. A generic device isn't as automated for the system to verify against your plan.
-Mc
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What do you mean by getting kicked off your data plan? i have been using the media max bundle for over a year with my treo and my 8525 with no problems. i have never paid the outrageous 60 for a pda data plan.
could you please clarify?
thanks

Selling my Iphone?

Can I sell it here? (Not sure if its only HTC stuff allowed here, would rather sell it here as I have some history here!)
If so:
16GB First Gen quickpwnd (unlocked can use with any GSM simcard in the world)
2.1 Firmware
Pretty much perfect condition its been in a skin since a week after I got it (7 months ago)
terminal, openSSH remote desktop and a few other nice apps installed. PM for the full list!
£230 delivered Thanks!
also selling a new iphone 1st gen 8gb, protective film that came with it is still on; Unlocked.
Maybe this should be the iphone sellers thread! lol BTW my price is negotiable, i need a quick sale!
BTW
btw the JasJar in my sig is long gone!
where are you sending from?
and whange your sig then lol
im posting from London UK, overseas delivery may be a bit more i'll have to check....
anyone out there interested?
I was after an iPhone just over a month ago. Shame, I wouldn't have minded it. But now I'm more than happy with my HTC Polaris.
PS. Great username you have.
zeezee said:
also selling a new iphone 1st gen 8gb, protective film that came with it is still on; Unlocked.
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HOW MUCH FOR UR IPHONE
POOPIE4279 said:
HOW MUCH FOR UR IPHONE
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message me.
ZeeZee get the f*** outta my thread! Im selling my iphone here!
Jammin said:
ZeeZee get the f*** outta my thread! Im selling my iphone here!
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Lol, a thread thief in here.
Is anyone interested?
im selling my HTC G1 too, it has a Tri-Boot Function with
Android
WM
and iPhone's OS
plus it has addon to install more OS
any one intrested ?
im trading my HTC Diamond For iphone =)
we might as well call this thread eBay
I might as well join in.
I have the following for sale:
HTC Universal ($200)
HTC Elfin ($150)
2 HTC Excaliburs for sale ($140 each)
BB 8100 ($100)
Nokia E62 ($100)
SE W810 ($90)
SE S710a ($70)
and a few others that aren't coming to mind right now...
BTW all currencies are CAD.
OK all just make me offers for the iPhone as noone seems interested in the price I asked for, need to get some cash quick!
Price drop to £180, price negotiable!!

Help me lol Hard decision

Hey I'm kind of considering trading my gs2 skyrocket for a nokia n9 64 gb either in black or blue.
I know I'm forsaking LTE and android, but honestly the n9 does everything I need it to do in a simpler and more battery efficient manner, as well as having a superior design and more compact size. Also lack of apps isn't a big deal to me I don't game on my phone beyond the occasional angry birds.
So anyone in the Los Angeles/Glendale area wanna do this trade?
Some of your thoughts on this would be nice.
I could also sell my gs2 skyrocket to some in the aforementioned area for like 500$ ish I guess with my accessories then buy the n9 off like amazon or something, ebay maybe.
500 is a good price you are getting, they sell for 350-400 on xda marketplace..
munchy_cool said:
500 is a good price you are getting, they sell for 350-400 on xda marketplace..
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Ah well then I'd just price it at the 350-400, I don't actually know anyone in my area to sell it to that's why I'm asking here XD
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Ah well then I'd just price it at the 350-400, I don't actually know anyone in my area to sell it to that's why I'm asking here XD
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xda price is sometimes cheaper than Craiglist price dude ...
munchy_cool said:
xda price is sometimes cheaper than Craiglist price dude ...
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Huh cool, just one thing since MeeGoo doesn't have flash, does that mean I can't use youtube?
wasabiman123 said:
Huh cool, just one thing since MeeGoo doesn't have flash, does that mean I can't use youtube?
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wish I could help you with that but I have no idea about that ...
Any people wanna contribute to this post a little...
Does no one really have a nokia n9 for sale XD or trade with my skyrocket
ha ha ..it's all about droids mate ...

Does the bargain price of the Nexus 4 make it less exclusive??

I was talking to one of my buddies here at work who is also an Android Freak like myself and we were discussing about how Google and LG can sell such a device packing what it does for $299 or $349.
It's seems like it has really beautiful build quality also, while Samsung sells a plastic dual core S3 with half the RAM, lower resolution screen for double the price!
Don't get me wrong, I am both happy and sad that the phone is so damn cheap. Glad because it is so dirt cheap that I can buy it as a backup phone to my Note 2 and just not worry about it falling and breaking or whatever. Replacing just the LCD on my Note 2 would probably pay for the whole Nexus 4!
Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
I know this post seems a bit ridiculous, but that's something that is bugging me a little about the device. What do you guys think? A little something inside kinda wish Google priced this device similar to the Galaxy Nexus. I think it would have been more special to me. Am I crazy?
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Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks.
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Just because people are excited, you're assuming they're 13? Right...
... and imo, the price does not make it any less exclusive.
You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
In any case, mainstream smartphones, like all technology, will always be getting less exclusive. If exclusivity is of import, the Tag Heuer Android phones look quite sharp, but probably will be behind on the OS curve...
Setting aside the ridiculousness of caring about exclusivity, your work colleagues likely got sticker-shock because they don't know much about the cellphone market. I'm sure they don't think of the iPhone as an "exclusive" device, and yet it's in the same range as the Note 2 off-contract. The Nexus 4 may not be a monetarily exclusive device, but it's still going to have limited sales due to the number of people who are informed enough about their options to pick one up.
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linj said:
You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
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Front-to-front. The back's the best-looking part, after all; and the part that displays the ever-important logos.
You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.
You say less exclusive... I say more support.
How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
No, it makes it lighter on my wallet. I don't care how many other people have it as long as I do.
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To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't agree.
[13 yr old comment]If you want to feel special, maybe get it from the TMo store or import it. [/13 yr old comment]
The price is being subsidized. Just making it easier to reach more people. This way el goog can make even more money with mobile ad revenue.
Euler MD said:
You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.
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Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
If having exclusivity means paying $1000 dollars, I'll take a less exclusive phone any day for $350
You think $500+ phones are exclusive? You'll find more Note 2s and iPhones than N4.
That said, the more the N4s out there, the more accessories there will be for it. And thats always a good thing.
tgyberg said:
How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
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This. I only know one girl outside of XDA that even knows what the Nexus line is.
Ace42 said:
Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
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Perhaps. Google may keep production low for the first wave after watching previous launches. There seems to be a lot of uncertainty about the popularity of this phone due to the lack of LTE, expandable storage, and maybe inadequate battery. Those of us looking to buy the phone can only hope that it is either not that popular or that Google didn't lower production.
Dan37tz said:
When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
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You know what I got from reading this? That you need to feel special/better than your friends. That's no reason to jack up the price of a phone.
Tell you what, I'll buy mine, then sell it to you for $859.99, that'll really blow your colleagues out of the water! Or how about avoiding the faux pas of bragging about how much money you spent on a cell phone. Hell, if anything I'll be showing my friends this phone and telling them how cheap it was. Look at this thing, it's awesome, and cost half the price of your NoteII!
Dan37tz said:
Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't see anything wrong of a 13 year old can save up and purchase this device, it allows a younger audience to own a modern smartphone without the hefty price tag. Exclusivity to one type of group (in this case being age) isn't somthing company's want for their products, and if they lure in the younger users with the low price tag, that means more marketshare for them. The nexus 4 isn't a fashion item like more popular phones such as the iPhone, or even the galaxy s3, it's made for contract free or value plan customers who want a fast phone for a reasonable price.
Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
Who cares? Does it matter if the phone is not as "exclusive" as you would like?
It's an amazing phone at a great price, it will further push the Android ecosystem.
If you want exclusive, stick with foreign imports of obscure devices.
Foxy Roxy said:
Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
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I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
bfspider said:
I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
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XD I just did few minutes ago.

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