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WM5: Unable to sync with my laptop with Toshiba BT!

I just bought an Asus M6VA laptop (called Z70 something in the US), and it has built-in Bluetooth. I can connect with the serial port OK, I can use the Dial-Up Networking to surf the net with my laptop and the BA as the modem, but I'm unable to get AS working. I have AS over BT working with my office computer, that has a Logitech DiNovo Media Desktop bluetooth, with Widcomm stack. But the Asus has a Toshiba stack with a totally different setup, and I can't get it to work.
The Widcomm stack sees AS and even an audio gateway, so I can use the PC as a handsfree device for my BA (even though the sound's rather terrible), but the Toshiba stack only sees a serial port and DUN on it. i would appreciate any pointers and help!

have you set up active sync on your laptop to connect via bluetooth.you have to click on file conection settings and select allow connection to one of the following and then select the com port your pocket pc is using.also when you setup your pocket pc to connect to your laptop it gives you the option of serial port but you also have to have active sync selected aswell if it does not show up then press refresh.let me know wat happens.

I tried again, and when I connect the serial port, I see "Microsoft ActiveSync cannot recognize this device for one of two reasons " and then it suggests that it wasn't connected properly, or that it isn't a PPC or smartphone.
I have the serial port on the PC set to Com6, and AS is set up to allow syncing through that port. On the PPC I have outgoing port Com 0 (just about the only port I could get it to accept, but I tried one other, I think it was Com 9, and that didn't help). I have done a bunch of refreshes but I can't see active sync as an available service on the laptop. I belive that's the problem, since I could see that on my office computer, and that connected and synced without problems.

In AS on your laptop delete any previous partnerships with your PDA. If possible, delete any laptop partnerships in AS on your PDA as well. On your PDA, go to Settings -> System -> Bluetooth Settings. Choose to start AS setup...
It sounds like your laptop may be using the MS drivers... There should be an option to make your laptop Discoverable, but I'm not very familiar with the MS stack... more familiar with the Widcomm. Look for something like Advanced settings in the left window pane...
Let us know if any of that helps!

I have tried that , but clicking on the Start button gives me a window "Please bond with other Bluetooth device which supports serial port or Active Sync profile as your AS partner". And I have already bonded! Bonding again doesn't change anything.

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/579009962631/m/519002845731 use these instructions that is what i did and it worked fine.let me knw

Nope, it doesn't work at all. Like I said in the first post, this is not a Microsoft stack, it's a proprietary Toshiba stack, and it doesn't have any of the setup windows or settings that this guide mentions.

You've probably thought of this....
Maybe you need to manually create a serial port to your PDA... When you paired the PDA to the laptop, what services were you offered? If Serial port is available, create the connection, note down the COM#. With BT started, in AS allow synch via new BT COM port...

Yes, I have tried that, and it didn't work.

I finally managed to do it! I found a way to use the Micro$oft BT Stack instead of the Toshiba one, and now I'm finally set up for AS over BT with the guide mentioned above. Thanks!

Still haven't found what I am looking for.... (Bluetooth/ActiveSync)

This is quite a common problem, from what I have gathered reading from the web, but haven't found a solution yet.
I could Sync perfectly via Bluetooth using Actve Sync 4.2, but ever since I received a file from another phone via bluetooth Active Sync doesn't show up as an option when I pair my phone with my laptop, hence no Active Sync via Bluetooth.
What could have gone wrong? Anyway of getting my Active Sync to work with the Bluetooth again? I have tried everything possible, hard reset, re-installing Active Sync, re-pairing etc. etc.
Please to help... anyone???

i spent a day trying to connect to activesync using bluetooth, when i finaly manage to do this and disconnect it , next time i spent another couple hours trying to connect it again as it was before ). and i think i realize all specifics of that procedure. ur main goal is to recognise computer paired device as device connected via activesync service and not the "serial port" service on ur PDA.

That I know...
Thanks, for that, but that I know, problem is how to make the PDA realise that my system has Active Synch and not Serial port! Have you managed to find that out? If you have then please let me know. Thanks in advance.

It actually depends on what Bluetooth stack yr LapTop has, Broadcom,BlueSoliel, Toshiba or MS..U need to add a virtual Serial Port..set that serial port in yr Async connections on yr LapTop..then re-do the BT search on yr PDA and now it will show Async service in yr device..

yep, in my case its a toshiba one, and u need to set incoming and outgoing port on computer this way: com6 local client port, com7 local server port. and set activesync on com7, and make a connection on computer with pda on port 6 but do not coennect it, after that make a connection on pda with computer, and try to refresh list of services that computer provides untill "serial port" becomes "activesync", then launch activesync on pda and hit connect via bluetooth option, thats it.

Using MS Bluetooth software.
I am using the Microsoft Bluetooth software and there is only incoming and outgoing. Kept refreshing but only shows 'Serial Port'!

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yep, in my case its a toshiba one, and u need to set incoming and outgoing port on computer this way: com6 local client port, com7 local server port. and set activesync on com7, and make a connection on computer with pda on port 6 but do not coennect it, after that make a connection on pda with computer, and try to refresh list of services that computer provides untill "serial port" becomes "activesync", then launch activesync on pda and hit connect via bluetooth option, thats it.
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You are an absolute genius. I would never have thought about the "refresh" on the PDA bluetooth settings. It worked. I had given up previously so many times!!!
Eric

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yep, in my case its a toshiba one, and u need to set incoming and outgoing port on computer this way: com6 local client port, com7 local server port. and set activesync on com7, and make a connection on computer with pda on port 6 but do not coennect it, after that make a connection on pda with computer, and try to refresh list of services that computer provides untill "serial port" becomes "activesync", then launch activesync on pda and hit connect via bluetooth option, thats it.
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I tried this port with com5 and com9 instead because 6 and 7 were taken (by what??). But unfortunately it didn't work, kept showing "Serial port" even after many refreshes.

What a nuisance
I had a similar problem. One of the reasons I bought the MDA was to sync wirelessly, and I never got this to reliably work, and wound up using a USB cable. The problem is that if it doesn't work without doing something, it is more trouble than the cable. Here are my notes about making bluetooth work:
A workaround is (i) on the MDA, go into bluetooth settings, open the PC listing and uncheck and then recheck the ActiveSync service, and (ii) shut down ActiveSync and restart it on the PC, using ActiveSyncToggle (Google for it). This program also solves the problem that activesync would start and then report that it couldn't find the bluetooth dongle for the idiotic reason that ActiveSync started before the bluetooth dongle was started. ActiveSync doesn't have an Exit/close button, and ActiveSyncToggle provides it.

Bluetooth&ActiveSync
kull said:
I could Sync perfectly via Bluetooth using Actve Sync 4.2, but ever since I received a file from another phone via bluetooth Active Sync doesn't show up as an option when I pair my phone with my laptop, hence no Active Sync via Bluetooth. What could have gone wrong? Anyway of getting my Active Sync to work with the Bluetooth again? I have tried everything possible, hard reset, re-installing Active Sync, re-pairing etc. etc.
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It's rather simple. Once you pair PDA & PC with ActiveSync, you got a connection - PDA with PC (ActiveSync) via USB. This you can see in ActiveSync -> Connection Settings - checked box near "Allow USB Connections".
And if you'll pair your PDA with PC by Bluetooth (I have BlueSoleil installed), you'll have a Com port (#7 in my case) applied to your PDA - not in PDA, in PC - so you must sign this port in ActiveSync -> Connection Settings -> check box "Allow connection to one of the followings:", choose right port from the list (#7 in my case), tap "OK" (but not "Connect"!!!) - and then try to refresh BT connection on your PDA - you'll see pretty soon - "connection type - ActiveSync". Then choose "connect via BlueTooth" from your PDA - Voila! Yuo're synchronising via BT!
BUT!!! From now on this silly ActiveSync will mind, that you wish to synchronise ONLY by BT! Look in "Connection Settings" - you'll see that "Allow USB connections" is unchecked! That means, you're not able to connect via USB any more!
So, if you want to connect via USB one thing you must to do - is to check this damn box manually! And you again can synchronise via USB.
And from that on - if you want to synchronise via BT - uncheck this box and check "Allow connection to one of the followings:" and check the propper Com port.
So thats all. Have fun!

Right
rusigor said:
BUT!!! From now on this silly ActiveSync will mind, that you wish to synchronise ONLY by BT! Look in "Connection Settings" - you'll see that "Allow USB connections" is unchecked! That means, you're not able to connect via USB any more!
So, if you want to connect via USB one thing you must to do - is to check this damn box manually! And you again can synchronise via USB.
And from that on - if you want to synchronise via BT - uncheck this box and check "Allow connection to one of the followings:" and check the propper Com port.
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That is probably the problem for me, I sync with two PCs, so when I got one working, trying to sync with the other would bollix up the first's settings.

I have no experience synchronising with 2 PC's. Suppose, you'll have to pair with both PC's and watch right connection settings every time - is particular PC switched to synchronise by USB or by BT - before trying to synchronise!!!!
Else you'll be forced to delete all synx. settings from you PDA (AS page) every time (IMHO)... and pairing you devices from beginning...

Solution found at last!
This was the solution to MY problem:
Originally Posted by miguelromerom
Found a possible "solution" for some people who have been having problems estabishing a BT AS Partnership with their Universal and a host computer running AS. What I found was you may need to edit the registry to fix the problem. Here's what happened to me yesterday:
Morning: Hard reseted my device and installed all my software apps at my work computer via AS in USB mode as a Guest. Note: I have not set up a partnership with any computer (either USB or BT).
Evening: Got in my truck and paired my JasJar to my BT GPS receiver via a BT Serial Port. Used TomTom and navigated home.
Late Evening: Got home. I wanted to set up a BT AS Partnership first so I went through the procedures of pairing my device and my home computer. And guess what, it didn't work. My JasJar would not see that AS was an available option on my home computer (NOTE: Before Hard Resetting my device in the morning, I had previously established a BT AS Partnership with my JasJar so I know my machine supported that profile). What the @?#~! Ok. I did a search of the word "sync" through the registery. Came up with an interesting issue. Under the registry entry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Ac tiveSync\
In that directory I saw a folder listed as: 000a3a051d0f (This folder is specific to my device (more below)). I was wondering what this was since I did not have any BT ActiveSync Profiles set up yet. When I looked in it, I realized immediately that this is the Device Profile for my GPS RECEIVER!!!! What the hell was it doing in this directory I asked myself. So I deleted the folder 000a3a051d0f from the directory:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Ac tiveSync\
And guess what? I was able to establish a partnership via BT immediately!!!
Hope this helps anyone else facing similar situation... I guess when I sent something via a Nokia phone it created a key which kept recognising my laptop as having only serial port. Once deleted - pronto my laptop showed up saying it had Active Synch!

Bluetooth Sync- Please help

Hi all:
After hours of searching and trying, and failing, I have given in, and decided to go ahead and ask. Please be gentle, I know how much everyone hates when people ask already answered questions, but I have honestly spent hours trying to solve this problem.
I am unable to get bluetooth sync to work (Windows XP).
I kept getting too high a COM port number, and was not able to select it on ppc.
After many searches both here and Google, I was finally able to get a COM port which was low enough for my Tilt to recognize (COM port 9). I Added new device to Tilt, and FINALLY I had ActiveSync as an option.
It indicated I should select COM port 9 to sync. I have also gone into my bluetooth place on PC, and verified that it shows COM 9 as My Serial Port. I have also checked, and my PC does show up on ppc bluetooth devices. I have double checked that ppc is discoverable. I also added 9 under COM ports on phone.
However, ActiveSync on PC does not list COM port 9 as an option.
Also, when I try to add Tilt to My bluetooth places (on PC), it tells me no available COM ports on ppc.
If I go to Activesync on phone, and click connect via bluetooth, it says opening port, then connecting to host, and a pop-up on pc states that ppc is connected to blueooth serial port on PC (COM 9). After this, all activity stops, and active sync does not ever connect.
Please help me
Thanks!

You don't need to set a COM port on the PPC itself. Delete it as well as the pairing with your PC.
On the PC, check the Serial Port service is enabled in the BT settings. I'd then make sure the COM port number is between 1-8. Now where this is done depends on the BT software stack you have on the PC, it can be in the BT settings, or you might have to go in the device manager, COM ports, find the Bluetooth COM port and change its number here in the advanced properties.
Open Activesync connection settings, check the COM port tick and select the port in the dropdown. If you can't see the port here and select it it won't work, so theres no chance your current setup will work.
Then on the phone add new device, select the PC, type same passwords on both sides to create the pairing. In the next service window you should have Activesync, tick it, finish. This should now work, at least I've always done that way for years now with different PCs and PPCs. Activesync is crap though, and on some configurations I needed to kill the activesync process and relaunch it everytime before connecting or it wouldn't work, or open the connection settings, remove the COM port tick and dismiss, then open again and put it back.
Also, when you connect on the PPC, some PC bluetooth stacks will ask you everytime if you want to allow the connection, but the prompt doesn't appear unless you go manually click in the BT tray icon. That was on my last PC.
There are often small issues but I always got it to work somehow

Hi:
Thanks so much for your reply.
I deleted the COM port on phone, as you instructed.I also deleted pairing.
I wasn't able to set COM port to a lower number than 9. There was no advanced properties for the COM ports in device manager. I even enabled show hidden devices, and show non present devices. Still nothing. I have no idea what is trying up the lower numbered COM ports.
Somewhere along the line, ActiveSync started showing COM port 9 as an option. After selecting it, it now works perfectly.
I am however mad, and frustrated as I don't know which of the MANY steps I took fixed it. I wish I did, so I could post it here, and hopefully help someone else who is about to pull their hair out trying to get their Kaiser to sync via bluetooth. Not to mention if I ever have to set it up again for myself, I have no clue what got it working
Thanks again for your help!!

In the future:
Turn on bluetooth on phone/PC
Right click 'My Computer'/Manage/Device Manager
Check what COM Port your Bluetooth on PC is using
Start Active Sync/File/Connections/Allow Connections from the following (select COM here)
Hit OK then Sync.

Hi Nufsaid:
Thanks for the steps, but believe me, I had tried that dozens of times. My problem wasn't with setting up pairing or anything like that. All the COM ports assigned to bluetooth were way too high for ppc to recognize. Eventually after much effort I got the serial COM port down to COM port 9 (which the phone now was able to use, before it had been 16, 17, 18). Active Sync refused to recognize that COM port. Anyway (as I mentioned in my previous post), after hours of trying, COM port 9 magically showed up as an option in Active Sync. Sadly I am not sure which of the many steps I took fixed the issue.
Thanks anyway.

cincy1020 said:
Sadly I am not sure which of the many steps I took fixed the issue.
Thanks anyway.
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Don't worry, the first time I tried to sync a PPC via BT I had the exact same kind of problem and never found out how I got it to work. But since then the steps above have worked well

kilrah said:
Don't worry, the first time I tried to sync a PPC via BT I had the exact same kind of problem and never found out how I got it to work. But since then the steps above have worked well
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LOL
That is funny, but great to hear!
Thanks!

Okay, this is really becoming RIDICULOUS!
I had it syncing perfectly last night. All I did, was go to bed. Turned off bluetooth on phone, and turned off PC.
Today when I went to sync again, COM port 9 is no longer listed in ActiveSync.
And of course, it will not sync. I have tried everything to get COM post 9 to show up again, and it will not. My bluetooth serial post is still listed as COM port 9, and when I establish a connection, it connects, It just won't connect to ActiveSync. I tried deleting the pairing, and re-pairing, but now ActiveSync is not longer listed as an option on phone after pairing.
Any ideas, or suggestions would REALLY be appreciated. And believe me, I have searched, and searched, and then searched some more, I just can't fix this.
Thanks!

Install another Bluetooth stack (one that works ) on your PC? Widcomm for example

kilrah said:
Install another Bluetooth stack (one that works ) on your PC? Widcomm for example
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Hi:
Thanks for your reply.
I actually am already using Widcomm. Is it possible Widcomm is not working well with my PC? Should I try another? Any suggestions.
Again, thanks for your help. While I am not new to PCs or PPCs, I am VERY new to bluetooth and all that jazz, lol.
Thanks
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Actually, I should have said I have the Widcomm stack installed. I am not however sure how to verify that it is being used.

i once read that it works with BlueSoliel, not Widcomm. Try that. BlueSoliel worked for me, but not Widcomm.

I'm using Widcomm (actually the one that is bundled with my Logitech MX5000 desktop bluetooth keyboard/mouse) and it works perfectly fine. On my laptop I have a Toshiba stack and it works well too. Maybe you have an old version that is bogus? I have had trouble to get the widcomm stack to work at the beginning, Windows default crappy stack would always take the BT hardware over preventing the Widcomm stack from using it.

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i once read that it works with BlueSoliel, not Widcomm. Try that. BlueSoliel worked for me, but not Widcomm.
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Just got a new mini dongle I'm trying to use BlueSoliel, but am having trouble, I can push to my phone, listen to music via stereo bluetooth, but can't serial. BlueSoliel gives an option in tools/configuration/quick connect to assign com ports, but the ones shown won't show on my phone as an outgoing/incoming port...have you figured this out? All I want to do is Activesync via Bluetooth.

You don't need any port to appear on the phone for sync. What matters is the COM port number on the PC. You need to know it, set activesync to use it, then do a pairing preferably from the phone, and select on the phone to use the PC's "ActiveSync" service that should appear in the list if the PC configuration is OK.
Basically there's nothing to configure on the phone. If something's wrong it's 95% chance that it's on the PC.

ActiveSync Problem [USB can't connect]

Dear all,
sorry if this is repost.
i found it quite trouble for me, as my TYTN II suddenly stop syncing with my notebook.
it shown Microsoft ActiveSync can't recognize any port plug to TYTN ii, even if it can't sync with notebook active sync, but the phone still able to charge via USB port, anyone experience this before?
fortunately my Tytn II still able to sync via Bluetooth connection, but NOT via USB port.
Some recommended action that i've run so far:
1. uninstall & re-install microsoft activesync 4.5
2. change usb port
3. change with different notebook with activesync 4.5
4. hard reset my device
5. flash to another ROM via USB
6. etc
after doing all the thing, but the problem still there, only able to sync via Bluetooth connection.
hope anyone could give me a clue here.
thx & rgds,

What OS are you running on your notebook ?
Activsync for Windows XP and earlier
Windows Mobile Device Center for Vista, Wimdows 7

I am using Windows XP SP3 and using Microsoft Active Sync 4.5.0 build 5096
I also have tried into Windows Vista Home premium,
and couple hours ago I've tried to sync my friend O2 and it was successfull syncing with his device, and then I re-tried to sync with mine, but no hope
any clue really appreciate that

Try going to the "USB to PC" settings on your phone (probably under Settings>Connections) and unchecking "Enable faster data synchronization."

hmm, I've tried that before and still no luck,
do you think any possible hardware failure

It's possible that you have a hardware failure. However, that seems unlikely if you can flash using USB and it can connect to those other systems. Two other trivial things to try:
1) Try a different cable
2) Is "Allow USB Connections" checked in File>Connections Settings in ActiveSync? (I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, just covering the bases)

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1) Try a different cable
2) Is "Allow USB Connections" checked in File>Connections Settings in ActiveSync? (I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, just covering the bases)
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it's okay... i am looking for clue not for arguing
anyway, i've done that
1) already try 3 different cable, the last one i tried is with two devices my tytn ii and my friend O2
2) already done that too, been trying uncheck/check "Allow USB connection" in Microsoft Activesync in my Ms XP SP3 notebook.
btw flashing via SD card is applicable because it's not related with USB port right
regards,

I'm having a very similar problem. I have 2 Kaisers, one factory AT&T ROM WinMobile 6.1 and the other running a cracked 6.5 ROM.
Two computers, one Laptop running Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and a desktop running XP w/SP3 32 bit.
About a month ago all phones stopped syncing to all computers. I just get a "Unrecognized USB device" error on both computers using either phone.
Does Anyone know if MS released a USB driver update that may be causing this? I have tried every possible phone setting listed on the web, uninstalled activesync on XP and nothing seems to work. It really feels like a Windows USB issue to me. Just my gut feeling.
Doug

I have one more stab in the dark. Plug in your phone, open the device manager on your computer. There should be a device category called "Windows CE USB Devices." Expand that category, right click on the device in that category and uninstall it. Unplug your phone and plug it in again. This should reinstall the device driver. I'm guessing that the original drive got corrupted somehow.

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It's possible that you have a hardware failure. However, that seems unlikely if you can flash using USB and it can connect to those other systems. Two other trivial things to try:
1) Try a different cable
2) Is "Allow USB Connections" checked in File>Connections Settings in ActiveSync? (I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, just covering the bases)
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I had a similar problem as the original poster, and it turned out to indeed be a hardware problem. The SD-card reader was faulty, and ActiveSync would not recognize the phone while an SD-card was plugged in (Nor would WM5Torage work). Removing and reinstalling drivers did not work either. The SD-card was fine, when tested in a PC reader and my Touch HD, so I figured it had to be the kaiser.
I fixed this *today* by replacing the PCB in the display part of the kaiser. Part costs about $40 (Search for item ID 380187854526 on eBay to see which part)
The disassembly/assembly instructions required are in the service manual, available at a dozen places online.
Hope this helps! (Couldn't post links )

Bluetooth

Hi,
I just bought a Bluetooth dongle for my PC. (Trust Ultra Small Bluetooth 2.1 Usb Adapter 25 M)
The main reasons for buying this was so I could sync without using one of my very spare USB ports.
Another big reason was that I really want to try SideShow.
So, I hooked the thing up, installed it. Works like a charm for most services (files etc). It just doesn't work for two things: ActiveSync (on the phone)/Windows Device Center (on my PC) and Windows SideShow. Yay.
Could you please help me out?
To summarize:
PC with Vista Home Premium,
Trust Ultra Small Bluetooth 2.1 Usb Adapter 25 M,
HTC S730.
Not working for ActiveSync nor SideShow.
x5x_tim
PS: I installed something called "X86-PC Drivers.cab" I found in some thread. That's supposed to be the drivers for the SideShow service on the PC. (I think I installed them, I did not get an error from Rundll32...)
EDIT: what might be of use: I can't get the devices to pair if I use the PC to initiate that. The PC does not find the phone untill I pair them using to phone to initiate.

I don't know about SideShow but I managed once to ActiveSync my Wings through Bluetooth. Just be sure to remove any security restricition on your Bluetooth settings on your device. Like Secure Connection etc... Also, setup a serial port when you connect with your PC and then, at PC ActiveSync settings, at connection settings -> Allow Connections To One Of The Following (Com 4 or whatever). And then, at ActiveSync on your mobile, connect through Bluetooth. Try it and come again if it doesn't work.

Yes! Thank you. It's syncing as I type. That COM4 did the trick!

In the same way, you can have Internet on your mobile through Bluetooth's activesync connection. It is helpful if you don't have wifi on your mobile.