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Can someone explain what is going on with images in Opera 9.5?
In 8.65 images were downloaded in native format: zoom in and you could see all the detail; download and you would have the original image in all its glory.
In Opera 9.5 all I get is blocky, condensed images: zoom in and all I see is a mass of coloured blocks with no detail; downloading images is useless.
The worst part of this is that I can't read the xda forum properly (I can't decipher images posted of rom benchmarks and the like.)
Why is this, and how can it be corrected?
First off.. you couldn't have posted in the opera 9.5 thread?
anyways, are u using the latest build? i was browsing xda-devs for a good hour last night before going to bed with opera 9.5 and it worked flawlessly.. the word wrap feature made reading through posts a breeze!
what internet connection are u on and how many other apps do you have open?
I did originally post this in an Opera thread but it just got lost amongst the general exitement, without receiving any response. I am grateful that you have taken the time to look at it.
Don't get me wrong; this is an excellent app port. It runs very smoothly and is great to look at. Kudos to the devs.
I just assumed that there must be something in the settings that controls the rendering of images, as i get images that have greatly reduced detail downloaded. This happens regardless of my connection type and available system resources.
Maybe its a quirk of the Presto system. Does no-one else experience this? (it is not immediately apparent only shows up when you either 'save as' an image or when you zoom right in.
i too get this problem.
when first installing the app all pictures seem fine.
after using it a few times, id say maybe five or six or maybe after a soft reset that this starts happening.
I too have noticed that Opera does some kind of image processing that degrades the image quality. Even when I go directly to the image URL I often can't zoom to a true 100percent. On some occasions images are completely pixelated and undecipherable. Not all the images on a page will degrade the same amount, either. This is one of my pet peeves about the new Opera, I hope it is a bug and we find a fix in the near future.
Anybody know of an ebook reader for Windows Mobile 6.1 that you can scroll with a touch interface, like how Opera pages down on a web page?
Altough MobiPocket Reader hasn't finger scrolling feature,but it has feature of auto-scrolling,so you don't need to do anything while reading.
All reader
The soft Allreader+ do it and even in full screen mode
Ok - thanks for the suggestions - I've tried the Allsoft+ reader, and mobipocket.
Both have some nice features, but neither one lets you flick your finger to slide pages up and down like Opera works, or like the iPhone works with various pages. Allsoft+ has some great features, but not ones I'd be willing to pay that much money for when Haali Reader provides them for free.
I've been a long time Haali Reader user -- but unfortunately the AT&T Fuze doesn't have a scroll wheel, and the DPAD is kind of awkward to use for hours of reading. I may go with Mobipocket (free), and see if I can get used to tapping the screen to advance the page, unless somebody knows of another one.
Which Mobipocket reader version do you use? They haven't released one for WM6.1.
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Which Mobipocket reader version do you use? They haven't released one for WM6.1.
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I am using v5.3 build582 on my Smartphones and that's working also on TP. For PPC I think is the same version(I have deleted my installcab accidentialy). It was working perfectly(till hardreset from different purposes).
I use mobipocket, and it's got a lot of bugs on the Fuze, mainly with pagination (it had problems with my previous device, but it's much worse with the fuze). I use GScroll, and it works nicely to scroll pages. If you just scratch downward on the bottom pad, you go forward a page. If you scratch upward, you either go back 1 page, or like 50, which is annoying as crap. Bookmarking your last page read is very important. Whenever your turn off the device, or close and re-open the application, for whatever reason, mobipocket has trouble figuring out what the previous page is. It's very easy to accidentally scratch the bottom pad upward, and then you'll shoot backwards anywhere from 10-50 pages. If you look at the progress bar, it'll say you just went back a page, but that's not so. Mobipocket has a lot of problem with pagination anyway, but this is really annoying.
I haven't tried ereader yet, but it does a much better job of pagination, in my opinion (it's nice to know how many pages you've read, and how many are left-you're pretty much in the dark with mobi). The bummer with ereader is that it doesn't have a full screen mode (unless it's been updated). With the small screen of the fuze, full-screen is important. It also looks a helluva lot better.
Edit: I should add, you can also use the d-pad to go forward and backward, but it's not as cool as using GScroll, and it doesn't alleviate the annoying pagination problems.
Yes,you're right. The last page made me angry all the time. Anyway on Smartphone it is everything correct and I have no alternative against. Maybe the SP version on PPC would work better,just try.
would very much like a decent ebook reader
mobipocket is impossible on touch HD
it is a bit odd that the ebook software market seems so undeveloped
maybe just not many people read books!?!
cheers
Does Gscroll work on the HD? I'd at least demo it (mobilesrc.com)-it's only live 5 min, but you'll see if you can scroll forward with it.
You can touch the page in Mobipocket to change pages...it's in the options.
yea a good ebook reader with finger swipe scrolling and zoom would be great.
uBook and Mobipocket both support touch scrolling, but not swiping. You just touch the screen and it changes the page. Both are excellent readers, but uBook requires a lot of messing around with it's options.
allreader +
allreader+ with gscroll is the best team
there is even a zoom
and more, you can switch from black text on white paper to white text on black paper and it's a bless when I read at night
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uBook and Mobipocket both support touch scrolling, but not swiping. You just touch the screen and it changes the page. Both are excellent readers, but uBook requires a lot of messing around with it's options.
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The only problem with tapping the screen to turn pages is that (at least with mobi) you usually have to tap a part of the screen where there are no words, otherwise you bring up the pop-up menu or you accidentally highlight text. If you hit a page with no paragraph breaks, it gets a little tricky and is annoying. Gscroll is totally the way to go.
any news of a new touch ebook reader (like this here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-QsuGD4a4 ) Mobipocket isn't so good on an Windows Mobile phone without d-pad....
New touch program for reading ebooks
Hi,
I have just released a program that does what you want. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4894085.
Let me know how you get on.
Cheers,
Jim
Check out iSilo. you can scroll up and down sliding the finger over the screen. Not sure if that is what you want...
I have read many books this year on Allreader+ and I love it. The night theme is great, the autoscroll is also great, and tap to change pages is much nicer than having to flick across the screen. Honestly the less effort to change pages, the better. You have to change pages a lot when reading on a small screen.
The only thing that Allreader+ lacks that I really wish it had is quick inline text editing for all those pesky errors from OCR. I could correct it and then next time I read the book it would be right.
Yeah Allreader+ was my favourite ebook reader until i found someone developed a speed reading app in the XDA Dev and hacking section.
The app is called wordstreamer and its all i use now to read on my pro!
Guys and Gals,
I have been testing for the last 48 hours the lovely Iris browser on my Touch HD and I must say this is the best browsing experience I have ever seen for Windows Mobile.
Those who know me know I am extremely anti-Apple but I must say that internet experience on the damned iPhone is fabulous.
Well, Iris is almost there. It features the same rendering engine used in the Safari for the iPhone. You can tell that as soon as you start using it.
The page renders so clearly and it follows your finger so easily that the only thing really missing is the multitouch feature (did anyone say anything about the HD having the hardware for that already?)
I think we all must support it and leave Opera as a second option for now. All these browsers out there seem to be still quite experimental, we'd better stick to the one which - while working - gives us the best possible experience. I vote for Iris.
Chefs: The software is free for non commercial use, please let's embed it to your cooked roms.
Everyone else: Let's give it a go, download the CAB and install and see what I'm talking about.
Download Iris Browser from the developer's web site www.torchmobile.com
Moderators: just occurred to me this post could be better on another sub-forum. Feel free to move. ;-)
BTW: I don't work for them. I used to work for the Carphone Warehouse and I am currently unemployed.
Hi,
interesting !
I have test it, on two site I use a lot :
www.clubic.com
gmail.com
I can say performance sucks, sorry
the page take a lot more time to load comparing to opera, and navigation on page it really slow, nearly unusable !
the text on zoom, doesn't fit automatically the screen for reading, so need to move and move, and it's slow, no really funny.
the rotation doesn't work, you can only stay in portrait,
well it's a beta 3, need more work to make it good, but it's a good start.
I hope for now cooker don't use it as defaut, opera is far from this browser in term of functionality.
see ya
mate, that is so not true.
performance doesn't suck. it's the best i've seen so far.
i think youre being a bit exaggerated when saying about the delay and nearly unusable. i didn't want to mention opera's flaws but the navigation in it is far from being good and the crashing problem is the worst thing since the invention of Internet Explorer.
the reason i went after another browser was that i was sick of resetting my phone when trying to use opera.
the text on zoom won't fit the screen perfectly on opera either. it's very likely to overflow or just appear misplaced as if opera had missed the target when zooming in.
the difference in this point is that iris has got such clearer picture that it's much easier to read even very tiny letters also it moves smoothly with your finger unlike opera all crispy as if it was made on java for an old 256 colour screen Ericsson phone.
i just love the effects: when you open a page on a new tab, it falls like a gate and bumps. when you click on a link (to open a link you have to click on it for a second - this should be faster) it moves like you just punched it and it's so cool the fading effect between pages... just a few nice things.
all good and well, but is there flash support????
ie6 now has flash support, but the browser itself is crappy as hell!!!!! And opera keeps refusing to support flash...... sigh.....
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mate, that is so not true.
performance doesn't suck. it's the best i've seen so far.
i think youre being a bit exaggerated when saying about the delay and nearly unusable. i didn't want to mention opera's flaws but the navigation in it is far from being good and the crashing problem is the worst thing since the invention of Internet Explorer.
the reason i went after another browser was that i was sick of resetting my phone when trying to use opera.
the text on zoom won't fit the screen perfectly on opera either. it's very likely to overflow or just appear misplaced as if opera had missed the target when zooming in.
the difference in this point is that iris has got such clearer picture that it's much easier to read even very tiny letters also it moves smoothly with your finger unlike opera all crispy as if it was made on java for an old 256 colour screen Ericsson phone.
i just love the effects: when you open a page on a new tab, it falls like a gate and bumps. when you click on a link (to open a link you have to click on it for a second - this should be faster) it moves like you just punched it and it's so cool the fading effect between pages... just a few nice things.
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Well, I use opera on dutty's rom, which is the most advanced version of opera
never crash, speed excellent, highly smooth and fast
zoom excellent, can read anything quickly without any prob
I have just test 2 site, and this too one, take a lot of time on this. Perhaps I need extra conf
I will test it more to see
effect is nice of course, but it's best to keep "better" reading experience without scrolling, it's more functional
so, it's just my filling, I will test it more
thanks of course for info, nice to see opera monopol on mobile isn't true
Lots of potential
Hi mate thanks for link to the browser.
I like it... it has alot of potential even though its in beta it is showing alot of promise.
It is nice, reasonably fluid and renders pretty well... although I must say rendering engine does need some tweaking feels a little rocky still.
Transition from page to page is cool as it fades but again FPS seems a little laggy.
the second view when navigating with finger takes a little while to show the page as mini view it seems to load slowly on some some complex pages which shoudn'y really be the case as all it needs to do is load a snapshot of the actual page.
Dont get me wrong this is constructive feedback - I like it alot.
Some small UI tweaks, speed improvements, fix the secondary navigation snapshot so its instant rather loading like googlemaps then add Flash support and i think it could well be a contender (even winner) against Opera etc.
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Hi mate thanks for link to the browser.
I like it... it has alot of potential even though its in beta it is showing alot of promise.
It is nice, reasonably fluid and renders pretty well... although I must say rendering engine does need some tweaking feels a little rocky still.
Transition from page to page is cool as it fades but again FPS seems a little laggy.
the second view when navigating with finger takes a little while to show the page as mini view it seems to load slowly on some some complex pages which shoudn'y really be the case as all it needs to do is load a snapshot of the actual page.
Dont get me wrong this is constructive feedback - I like it alot.
Some small UI tweaks, speed improvements, fix the secondary navigation snapshot so its instant rather loading like googlemaps then add Flash support and i think it could well be a contender (even winner) against Opera etc.
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totally agree!
i think the more users it has now the best it will be in the future and this forum is a great place to start cause everyone here seems to help a lot when it comes to tweaking apps, making them more popular. I really think Iris is the one, not just yet, but it's got what it takes, just need a little bit of improvement.
anyway, i found it better do disable the page overview thing. have used that on netfront before and found it to make the browsing experience a bit confusing. wouldn't know where to look at to find what i was after...
have you seen how it displays your bookmarks? it is in a cover flow style. not with the full cover flow experience but still easier to find what you looking for than just a list of sites.
Seems like a nice competition for ie6 but for me I like opera far better than this one, I know this is beta, but this had nothing to show for me.
It failed to draw few sites properly that I tried, used desktop mode and I setup it like it should be. First thing I dislike is that it puts itself into Startmenu without notice, second is that it is like IE6 or skyfire so that you have to press few places to write address into a small area, third is that it loaded page very slowly when compared to opera.
Loads stuff in wrong order or something, pictures before css and html.
Might be better later when more work has been done for it.
Kinda like skyfire this was, good but nothing special to show.
edit: one good thing though, mouse cursor. Seen it before so not new.
all in all not bad but not as good as opera for rendering graphics. Here are 2 screenshots of it rendering my website (www.swampthing.net) As you can see the logo for my site has a trnasparant background which renders correctly on opera (to the right) and incorrectly on Iris (to the left) The screen navigation is better than opera in my opinion but I would rather things look right then scroll faster I will keep my eye on this one though. Shows promise
Well, lets see Skyfire also shall we?
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all in all not bad but not as good as opera for rendering graphics. Here are 2 screenshots of it rendering my website (www.swampthing.net) As you can see the logo for my site has a trnasparant background which renders correctly on opera (to the right) and incorrectly on Iris (to the left) The screen navigation is better than opera in my opinion but I would rather things look right then scroll faster I will keep my eye on this one though. Shows promise
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i noticed that when rendering png files too.
that's exact my point when it comes to iris, these guys managed to put on the first version some things opera took nine versions to never get. yes, iris is not flawless but it is very, very promising. by the final version it will be damn good.
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Well, lets see Skyfire also shall we?
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the reason i avoid talking about skyfire is cause it's a browser which relies on their service to exist. if, in a very unlikely circumstance that they shut down you'll have a piece of completely useless software on your PDA. not mentioning it's not an original idea, microsoft tried that before with the now buried DeepFish (R.I.P.)
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the reason i avoid talking about skyfire is cause it's a browser which relies on their service to exist. if, in a very unlikely circumstance that they shut down you'll have a piece of completely useless software on your PDA.
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LOL man, Opera does exactly the same. Both Opera and Skyfire pre-render websites through their proxies, the difference being that Opera is text-based and Skyfire is image-based.
That's why Opera loads slower and scrolls quickes (loads the whole text part of the website at once), while Skyfire loads quicker and scrolls slower (loads only the visible part as compressed image, google maps style).
Skyfire totally rocks because:
- is has full embedded video support out of the box
- desktop-like compatibility (online banking etc.)
- saves your bookmarks under your account so you never lose them
- file download
- feeds support
- customisable home page
They just released the latest beta 0.9.
HTC Touch HD unfortunately wont be able to enable Multitouch. It uses pressure to locate the point where you push. The iPhone or the Samsung F480 uses CMOS Sensors under the display and those work with the change in Resistance when you put your finger on the Screen! Thats why an iPhone doesnt work with a stylus! It works only with parts of a human body or anything that changes Resistance when made contact on the screen.
The Touchpad of a Laptop works with the same technology used in the iPhone!
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LOL man, Opera does exactly the same. Both Opera and Skyfire pre-render websites through their proxies,
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That's true for opera mini, but false for opera mobile. Look at http://www.whatismyip.com and you'll see from what proxy you connect to internet.
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HTC Touch HD unfortunately wont be able to enable Multitouch. It uses pressure to locate the point where you push. The iPhone or the Samsung F480 uses CMOS Sensors under the display and those work with the change in Resistance when you put your finger on the Screen! Thats why an iPhone doesnt work with a stylus! It works only with parts of a human body or anything that changes Resistance when made contact on the screen.
The Touchpad of a Laptop works with the same technology used in the iPhone!
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Close, the iPhone and touchpads measure capacitance, and in fact it is the Touch HD that works with resistance.
Hmm, I guess this is my first post. And I'm not even sure if it's the right forum for it, though considering the issue comes from the huge screen resolution from the TD2, it may be the correct forum.
Anyway, I love my TD2. It's my first smartphone and even though it cost me €405, I don't regret buying it.
I'm using it a lot for my studies though, and I like using the wikipedia/wapedia.mobi. Thing is that Opera apparently doesn't manage very well image size when he resize the page with the mobile view; I'm getting images bigger than what they should be and much more pixelised; therefore when I browse mathematics related pages, I have to scroll horizontally to view the whole formula... which isn't really practical. The same happens with IE, plus the browser being unpractical.
Anyway, would you know any way to reduce for example all images in a page by 25 or 50% in a mobile browser (if you know one that can do it, it would be great)?
It would be too bothersome to download the pages on my computer and manually resize images and correct the html tags
Thanks in advance,
lnky
This has been irretating me too. Also, I think that the font size often i way too big even when I zoom out as much as possible. But I guess there is no easy fix for this.
I've been checking the opera configuration file, though I'm not sure if the "scale" or "skin scale" or even the "Image.css" work :/ I've tried various settings...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512256&page=2
I have no idea what you mean by this. Could you give me a URL to see on my phone what you are talking about. Opera for my has sized all pages like they do on my laptop. No pictures have been pixelized ever except when I zoom in all the way.
i like Opera but on a WVGA screen give Iris a shot- it's a simple browser and it's good for sizing. torchmobile.com free- and it uses the iphones webkit engine so everything has that iPhoney feel
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I have no idea what you mean by this. Could you give me a URL to see on my phone what you are talking about. Opera for my has sized all pages like they do on my laptop. No pictures have been pixelized ever except when I zoom in all the way.
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Me neither. Could it be that the websites mentioned have mobile-specific CSS styles that would cause the pixellation you mention?
I was using ACV but I heard it was a big battery drain (And was making my NC feel a little warm) does anyone have a better suggestion?
I use the "Perfect Viewer" app. Just takes some practice memorizing the touch screen commands and it becomes very easy to use.
I second the recommendation for PV. And i tried a few others before settling.
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Yup, PV is great. I tried ACV and it made my screen go dark and unresponsive. Didnt like it at all. Dose any one know if PV can rotate if I flip the screen/device?
Yes, PV can rotate automatically, but you have t change it in the preference menu.
After a couple if weeks i've really gotten the hang of the various touch options. it just might be my favorite thing to do with this
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I used to use ACV, but am now using Perfect Viewer. It seems much snappier to me.
Hands down comic reader mobi. I literally bought the nook for this app.
Sent from my Rooted Nook
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Yes, PV can rotate automatically, but you have t change it in the preference menu.
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Sorry if this is a silly question but were is PV's menu?
I've tried them all but JJ Comics Viewer worked best for me. I liked how it told me the page number at the bottom.
I didn't really like the onscreen touch stuff on Perfect Viewer and it didn't automatically go to the next .cbr file. Mobi didn't have pinch to zoom and was too expensive. JJ is quite fast and doesn't have as many problems with large files. Try it out.
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Ill try jj tonight. The PV menu is invoked when viewing a photo. Use hit the menu key, with softkeys/button savior, and it will appear at the bottom as a whole set of options. Click the toolbox icon.
Includes option to jump to next cbr automatically.
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Ok gotta give it up for jj comic. Does 2 things pv doesn't- zoom past full resolution and can crop white space
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I've settled on the stock pdf reader for the NC. I have just taken all my cbz files, etc. and used Jomic to convert them all to pdf. None of the other other programs felt as comfortable, at least for me.
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Ill try jj tonight. The PV menu is invoked when viewing a photo. Use hit the menu key, with softkeys/button savior, and it will appear at the bottom as a whole set of options. Click the toolbox icon.
Includes option to jump to next cbr automatically.
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Yup, that did the trick, thanks. I also set it for Bicubic. So far I've only loaded one comic onto this thing but I can tell that when I have my whole library on here its gonna be sweet.
Can you explane what you mean by "zoom past full resolution"? Is that a good thing
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I've settled on the stock pdf reader for the NC. I have just taken all my cbz files, etc. and used Jomic to convert them all to pdf. None of the other other programs felt as comfortable, at least for me.
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Here's a question - how can I set the NC to open a PDF with the B&N Reader? If I open the file from the Library app, it opens with QuickPDF If I open the file using Astro I can read it using the B&N reader. I hate that I can't manage which file types open in each application as on a normal Android device. Any tips?
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Can you explane what you mean by "zoom past full resolution"? Is that a good thing
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PV will zoom out (less than 100%) and use scaling algorithms like bicubic and averaging to make the image look smooth. But (to my knowledge) it will not zoom past 100%. The problem is that, when I use lanscape mode to view a row of comic panes, if the width of the image is less than 1024 pixels, it will not fit the width of the screen.
JJ will zoom in (greater than 100%) so it will fill the screen regardless of the resolution of the original.
I hope that helps.
mad5427 said:
I've settled on the stock pdf reader for the NC. I have just taken all my cbz files, etc. and used Jomic to convert them all to pdf. None of the other other programs felt as comfortable, at least for me.
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I'm not questioning your choice, I'm just curious as to what was worse about "perfect viewer" or "jjcomic" that was better when using a pdf viewer. Because personally I find viewing comics on such a small screen requires maximum speed and flexibility in terms of zooming, rotating and page turning, and I've found the pdf viewers I've tried to be slow and inflexible.
If anyone watched me while reading a comic on this thing, they'd think I was a crazy person (rotate, pinch, tap, rotate back, doubletap).
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PV will zoom out (less than 100%) and use scaling algorithms like bicubic and averaging to make the image look smooth. But (to my knowledge) it will not zoom past 100%. The problem is that, when I use lanscape mode to view a row of comic panes, if the width of the image is less than 1024 pixels, it will not fit the width of the screen.
JJ will zoom in (greater than 100%) so it will fill the screen regardless of the resolution of the original.
I hope that helps.
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Actually, as techy as that was, I got it. Made perfect sense. Thanks. I'll have to give it a try. I'm also intrigued by Mobi's supposed ability to pop out blocks of text but at this time I cant afford to try it. All my free money went to the Nook