I've attached a screenshot of me attempting to read a PDF full page using Adobe Reader (still surprised that it won't go totally fullscreen), and as you can see, it's unreadable unless you zoom into the page and then you're stuck with having to scroll left and right as you're reading each line. Is the Diamond's increased resolution capable of showing a PDF full page and be readable? Post a screenshot if you can! Thanks!!
yeah I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to this. I tried and gave up reading a pdf file on my phone the other day. It's a long and tedious job. To get the text readable you need to zoom in a lot and then you need to scroll right and left to read each line. The scroll isn't smooth either so there would be a second or two loading time after each scroll movement.
well if you want have PDA readable documents you should use PDA to convert it to you into proper format ... i can`t remember whats the function name but the PDA should do it automatically or you can do it via desktop adobe acrobat enabling some re-flow mode or sthg like that.
I have taken two screenshots of page 11 from the HTC Touch Diamond manual. The second one is with Adobe Reader LE 2.5 in full screen (which actually is totally full screen).
The first one is readable if you have good eyes, but the second one (in full screen) is much better.
However, I do have another problem: How do you get back from the full screen to the normal screen?
/LeiEn
Edit: After posting the images, I realize that they look much worse after uploading them to the forum than they do in their original form, due to the fact that the forum recompresses the images. Sorry about that.
Try xpdf.
Worked perfectly for ebooks on my iPAQ hx4700 with VGA and fullscreen.
You can define a custom page width.
Guys and Gals,
I have been testing for the last 48 hours the lovely Iris browser on my Touch HD and I must say this is the best browsing experience I have ever seen for Windows Mobile.
Those who know me know I am extremely anti-Apple but I must say that internet experience on the damned iPhone is fabulous.
Well, Iris is almost there. It features the same rendering engine used in the Safari for the iPhone. You can tell that as soon as you start using it.
The page renders so clearly and it follows your finger so easily that the only thing really missing is the multitouch feature (did anyone say anything about the HD having the hardware for that already?)
I think we all must support it and leave Opera as a second option for now. All these browsers out there seem to be still quite experimental, we'd better stick to the one which - while working - gives us the best possible experience. I vote for Iris.
Chefs: The software is free for non commercial use, please let's embed it to your cooked roms.
Everyone else: Let's give it a go, download the CAB and install and see what I'm talking about.
Download Iris Browser from the developer's web site www.torchmobile.com
Moderators: just occurred to me this post could be better on another sub-forum. Feel free to move. ;-)
BTW: I don't work for them. I used to work for the Carphone Warehouse and I am currently unemployed.
Hi,
interesting !
I have test it, on two site I use a lot :
www.clubic.com
gmail.com
I can say performance sucks, sorry
the page take a lot more time to load comparing to opera, and navigation on page it really slow, nearly unusable !
the text on zoom, doesn't fit automatically the screen for reading, so need to move and move, and it's slow, no really funny.
the rotation doesn't work, you can only stay in portrait,
well it's a beta 3, need more work to make it good, but it's a good start.
I hope for now cooker don't use it as defaut, opera is far from this browser in term of functionality.
see ya
mate, that is so not true.
performance doesn't suck. it's the best i've seen so far.
i think youre being a bit exaggerated when saying about the delay and nearly unusable. i didn't want to mention opera's flaws but the navigation in it is far from being good and the crashing problem is the worst thing since the invention of Internet Explorer.
the reason i went after another browser was that i was sick of resetting my phone when trying to use opera.
the text on zoom won't fit the screen perfectly on opera either. it's very likely to overflow or just appear misplaced as if opera had missed the target when zooming in.
the difference in this point is that iris has got such clearer picture that it's much easier to read even very tiny letters also it moves smoothly with your finger unlike opera all crispy as if it was made on java for an old 256 colour screen Ericsson phone.
i just love the effects: when you open a page on a new tab, it falls like a gate and bumps. when you click on a link (to open a link you have to click on it for a second - this should be faster) it moves like you just punched it and it's so cool the fading effect between pages... just a few nice things.
all good and well, but is there flash support????
ie6 now has flash support, but the browser itself is crappy as hell!!!!! And opera keeps refusing to support flash...... sigh.....
SlakerBoi said:
mate, that is so not true.
performance doesn't suck. it's the best i've seen so far.
i think youre being a bit exaggerated when saying about the delay and nearly unusable. i didn't want to mention opera's flaws but the navigation in it is far from being good and the crashing problem is the worst thing since the invention of Internet Explorer.
the reason i went after another browser was that i was sick of resetting my phone when trying to use opera.
the text on zoom won't fit the screen perfectly on opera either. it's very likely to overflow or just appear misplaced as if opera had missed the target when zooming in.
the difference in this point is that iris has got such clearer picture that it's much easier to read even very tiny letters also it moves smoothly with your finger unlike opera all crispy as if it was made on java for an old 256 colour screen Ericsson phone.
i just love the effects: when you open a page on a new tab, it falls like a gate and bumps. when you click on a link (to open a link you have to click on it for a second - this should be faster) it moves like you just punched it and it's so cool the fading effect between pages... just a few nice things.
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Well, I use opera on dutty's rom, which is the most advanced version of opera
never crash, speed excellent, highly smooth and fast
zoom excellent, can read anything quickly without any prob
I have just test 2 site, and this too one, take a lot of time on this. Perhaps I need extra conf
I will test it more to see
effect is nice of course, but it's best to keep "better" reading experience without scrolling, it's more functional
so, it's just my filling, I will test it more
thanks of course for info, nice to see opera monopol on mobile isn't true
Lots of potential
Hi mate thanks for link to the browser.
I like it... it has alot of potential even though its in beta it is showing alot of promise.
It is nice, reasonably fluid and renders pretty well... although I must say rendering engine does need some tweaking feels a little rocky still.
Transition from page to page is cool as it fades but again FPS seems a little laggy.
the second view when navigating with finger takes a little while to show the page as mini view it seems to load slowly on some some complex pages which shoudn'y really be the case as all it needs to do is load a snapshot of the actual page.
Dont get me wrong this is constructive feedback - I like it alot.
Some small UI tweaks, speed improvements, fix the secondary navigation snapshot so its instant rather loading like googlemaps then add Flash support and i think it could well be a contender (even winner) against Opera etc.
CutePinkSox said:
Hi mate thanks for link to the browser.
I like it... it has alot of potential even though its in beta it is showing alot of promise.
It is nice, reasonably fluid and renders pretty well... although I must say rendering engine does need some tweaking feels a little rocky still.
Transition from page to page is cool as it fades but again FPS seems a little laggy.
the second view when navigating with finger takes a little while to show the page as mini view it seems to load slowly on some some complex pages which shoudn'y really be the case as all it needs to do is load a snapshot of the actual page.
Dont get me wrong this is constructive feedback - I like it alot.
Some small UI tweaks, speed improvements, fix the secondary navigation snapshot so its instant rather loading like googlemaps then add Flash support and i think it could well be a contender (even winner) against Opera etc.
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totally agree!
i think the more users it has now the best it will be in the future and this forum is a great place to start cause everyone here seems to help a lot when it comes to tweaking apps, making them more popular. I really think Iris is the one, not just yet, but it's got what it takes, just need a little bit of improvement.
anyway, i found it better do disable the page overview thing. have used that on netfront before and found it to make the browsing experience a bit confusing. wouldn't know where to look at to find what i was after...
have you seen how it displays your bookmarks? it is in a cover flow style. not with the full cover flow experience but still easier to find what you looking for than just a list of sites.
Seems like a nice competition for ie6 but for me I like opera far better than this one, I know this is beta, but this had nothing to show for me.
It failed to draw few sites properly that I tried, used desktop mode and I setup it like it should be. First thing I dislike is that it puts itself into Startmenu without notice, second is that it is like IE6 or skyfire so that you have to press few places to write address into a small area, third is that it loaded page very slowly when compared to opera.
Loads stuff in wrong order or something, pictures before css and html.
Might be better later when more work has been done for it.
Kinda like skyfire this was, good but nothing special to show.
edit: one good thing though, mouse cursor. Seen it before so not new.
all in all not bad but not as good as opera for rendering graphics. Here are 2 screenshots of it rendering my website (www.swampthing.net) As you can see the logo for my site has a trnasparant background which renders correctly on opera (to the right) and incorrectly on Iris (to the left) The screen navigation is better than opera in my opinion but I would rather things look right then scroll faster I will keep my eye on this one though. Shows promise
Well, lets see Skyfire also shall we?
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all in all not bad but not as good as opera for rendering graphics. Here are 2 screenshots of it rendering my website (www.swampthing.net) As you can see the logo for my site has a trnasparant background which renders correctly on opera (to the right) and incorrectly on Iris (to the left) The screen navigation is better than opera in my opinion but I would rather things look right then scroll faster I will keep my eye on this one though. Shows promise
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i noticed that when rendering png files too.
that's exact my point when it comes to iris, these guys managed to put on the first version some things opera took nine versions to never get. yes, iris is not flawless but it is very, very promising. by the final version it will be damn good.
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Well, lets see Skyfire also shall we?
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the reason i avoid talking about skyfire is cause it's a browser which relies on their service to exist. if, in a very unlikely circumstance that they shut down you'll have a piece of completely useless software on your PDA. not mentioning it's not an original idea, microsoft tried that before with the now buried DeepFish (R.I.P.)
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the reason i avoid talking about skyfire is cause it's a browser which relies on their service to exist. if, in a very unlikely circumstance that they shut down you'll have a piece of completely useless software on your PDA.
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LOL man, Opera does exactly the same. Both Opera and Skyfire pre-render websites through their proxies, the difference being that Opera is text-based and Skyfire is image-based.
That's why Opera loads slower and scrolls quickes (loads the whole text part of the website at once), while Skyfire loads quicker and scrolls slower (loads only the visible part as compressed image, google maps style).
Skyfire totally rocks because:
- is has full embedded video support out of the box
- desktop-like compatibility (online banking etc.)
- saves your bookmarks under your account so you never lose them
- file download
- feeds support
- customisable home page
They just released the latest beta 0.9.
HTC Touch HD unfortunately wont be able to enable Multitouch. It uses pressure to locate the point where you push. The iPhone or the Samsung F480 uses CMOS Sensors under the display and those work with the change in Resistance when you put your finger on the Screen! Thats why an iPhone doesnt work with a stylus! It works only with parts of a human body or anything that changes Resistance when made contact on the screen.
The Touchpad of a Laptop works with the same technology used in the iPhone!
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LOL man, Opera does exactly the same. Both Opera and Skyfire pre-render websites through their proxies,
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That's true for opera mini, but false for opera mobile. Look at http://www.whatismyip.com and you'll see from what proxy you connect to internet.
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HTC Touch HD unfortunately wont be able to enable Multitouch. It uses pressure to locate the point where you push. The iPhone or the Samsung F480 uses CMOS Sensors under the display and those work with the change in Resistance when you put your finger on the Screen! Thats why an iPhone doesnt work with a stylus! It works only with parts of a human body or anything that changes Resistance when made contact on the screen.
The Touchpad of a Laptop works with the same technology used in the iPhone!
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Close, the iPhone and touchpads measure capacitance, and in fact it is the Touch HD that works with resistance.
I'm currently running the Opera browser on the stock AT&T Rom. It's not bad but have two issues:
1) I have the screen set to 'mobile view' to make it conform more to the street. When it toggles between landscape and portrait (deliberately or accidentally via gyro) what I end up with when it comes back to portrait is a full size view with a very minimized column in the middle almost as if it fully unzoomed from the mobile view. Of course at this point it won't rezoom so the only thing to do is reload the page.
2) Mobile view sometimes starts off to the side completely blank screen and I need to scroll all the way over to the where the page is formatted.
I did some web searches and I don't see anyone else reporting these odd bugs so if there's something I can do let me know. Otherwise, if someone can tell me how to select a different default browser that would be great (never had to do it before).
Thanks in advance for any insight.
Well given 88 views maybe I should ask this a different way...
Is anyone else experiencing any of the above issues or is it just me?
Opera tears alot if browsing a page with heavy flash and enabled. If this is not the case, then try a hard reset, and see if that fix your problem. Maybe a software conflict somewhere!
Hmm, I guess this is my first post. And I'm not even sure if it's the right forum for it, though considering the issue comes from the huge screen resolution from the TD2, it may be the correct forum.
Anyway, I love my TD2. It's my first smartphone and even though it cost me €405, I don't regret buying it.
I'm using it a lot for my studies though, and I like using the wikipedia/wapedia.mobi. Thing is that Opera apparently doesn't manage very well image size when he resize the page with the mobile view; I'm getting images bigger than what they should be and much more pixelised; therefore when I browse mathematics related pages, I have to scroll horizontally to view the whole formula... which isn't really practical. The same happens with IE, plus the browser being unpractical.
Anyway, would you know any way to reduce for example all images in a page by 25 or 50% in a mobile browser (if you know one that can do it, it would be great)?
It would be too bothersome to download the pages on my computer and manually resize images and correct the html tags
Thanks in advance,
lnky
This has been irretating me too. Also, I think that the font size often i way too big even when I zoom out as much as possible. But I guess there is no easy fix for this.
I've been checking the opera configuration file, though I'm not sure if the "scale" or "skin scale" or even the "Image.css" work :/ I've tried various settings...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512256&page=2
I have no idea what you mean by this. Could you give me a URL to see on my phone what you are talking about. Opera for my has sized all pages like they do on my laptop. No pictures have been pixelized ever except when I zoom in all the way.
i like Opera but on a WVGA screen give Iris a shot- it's a simple browser and it's good for sizing. torchmobile.com free- and it uses the iphones webkit engine so everything has that iPhoney feel
HTC Touch Freak said:
I have no idea what you mean by this. Could you give me a URL to see on my phone what you are talking about. Opera for my has sized all pages like they do on my laptop. No pictures have been pixelized ever except when I zoom in all the way.
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Me neither. Could it be that the websites mentioned have mobile-specific CSS styles that would cause the pixellation you mention?
I tried to do a general search in Google and only found an xda thread about installing different drivers. Before I do that, I just want to see if anyone knew how to solve my issue.
I don't know if it was the Task29 or recent ROM flashings, but the images dislayed on my browser (opera 10) and contacts images look very blurry. Is that just how browser images are displayed? I mean, it looks like a picture displayed on a computerr without the proper video driver... could that really be the problem? thanks in advance.
You have to put Opera Turbo off in settings