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Turn your Kaiser into an electronic picture frame

Electronic picture frames are slowly catching on, and we all have gigabytes of family pictures on our desktops at home, but dont have much opportunity to see them.
Ive just bought a Tilt, which has the ideal design for either a desktop clock or a small picture frame. I tether every day, so its normally sitting next to my laptop, powered, but doing nothing.
My solution is in 2 parts. 1 free and 1 will cost $9.95
First, how to get your pictures on the device. This is simple using the media synchronizing abilities of active sync and desktop Windows Media Player.
First enable the media sync plug-in in activesync, then go to Windows Media Player and go to the sync tab with your device plugged in. There you should see your device as a sync-able storage device. Select it, chose to create a new sync profile, be sure to remove all the ones that are already there by default, choose to sync pictures, and add a further criteria to only sync say 10 MB. Set it to sync automatically.
This will copy about 10 Mb of photos (shrunk down to 320x211 resolution) to your device, to a Pictures folder at the root of your device.
Next you need an app called Dockwave Pro. This is not free (they do offer a free version, but it does not have the configuration options we need). Install it, point it to the pictures folder on your device, set the time out and the job is done.
Now every time your device is powered and idle for a few minutes, you will be surprised by a random selection of photos from your collection.
There is not much detail in this post, as I'm not sure how many people are interested, but it obviously can be fleshed out more with screen shots etc if there is enough interest. For a Tilt/Kaiser user its near perfect of course, as the device almost seemed designed for the role.
BTW, there is a built-in option in the built-in picture viewer, under options/slide show to play a screen saver of the pictures under the My Documents\My Pictures directory if your device is idle for 2 minutes, but Windows Media Player wont synchronize pictures to a directory accessible to that software, and the transitions are poorer.
Surur

Interesting idea. Could probably whip up a custom app for that. Now comes the problem. I have no pictures! (I should really get a camera, lol )

Chainfire said:
Now comes the problem. I have no pictures! (I should really get a camera, lol )
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I think you may have a decent 3 megapixel one lying around
If you are going to make a custom viewer, you really need to try out Google photo screen saver out for inspiration. It has a brilliant zoom and pan mode which really brings your pictures to life, and it also downloads pics via RSS, which makes for a nice ever-changing performance.
http://pack.google.com/screensaver.html
Surur

surur said:
I think you may have a decent 3 megapixel one lying around
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Right Too bad it has no flash and even though it has 3MP the quality is nothing to write home about. I mean a real camera, that takes pictures I want to keep
If you are going to make a custom viewer, you really need to try out Google photo screen saver out for inspiration. It has a brilliant zoom and pan mode which really brings your pictures to life, and it also downloads pics via RSS, which makes for a nice ever-changing performance.
http://pack.google.com/screensaver.html
Surur
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Overkill I think for on a 320x240 device, but who knows. I don't even know if or when I'm going to do this, just an idea

Well, Chainfire,
For one, I would LOVE to see what you could come up with for a custom application! To test it out, just download a few pics from someplace....
$9.95 isn't bad...but something that matches the elegance of our Kaiser/Tilts is deserving of something GREAT!

Chainfire said:
Right Too bad it has no flash and even though it has 3MP the quality is nothing to write home about. I mean a real camera, that takes pictures I want to keep
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Quality won't have to be stellar on that small screen though

surur said:
Next you need an app called Dockwave Pro. This is not free (they do offer a free version, but it does not have the configuration options we need). Install it, point it to the pictures folder on your device, set the time out and the job is done.
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This is already a feature of WM Pictures & Videos (w/out fancy transitions):
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borealcool said:
This is already a feature of WM Pictures & Videos (w/out fancy transitions):
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From my post above.
BTW, there is a built-in option in the built-in picture viewer, under options/slide show to play a screen saver of the pictures under the My Documents\My Pictures directory if your device is idle for 2 minutes, but Windows Media Player wont synchronize pictures to a directory accessible to that software, and the transitions are poorer.
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Surur

borealcool said:
This is already a feature of WM Pictures & Videos (w/out fancy transitions):
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he mentions that in the post but also has it's limitations like as far as when you sync to wmp...
EDIT: you beat me to the reply....hehe

Converting Films, and Playing on the TD2

After much trial and error I have finally got films playing at an acceptable quality on my TD2.
I have looked at a lot of threads from the Touch HD forum and tried quite a few programs including DVD Fab, the Touch HD ‘Encoder’, Super, Mp4ForHD and a few others I can’t even remember.
What I have found works best ‘for me’ is this combination:​
Use DVD Decrypter from here http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/to remove the encryption on the DVD, and to also transfer it to your hard drive.
Then I use Handbrake from here http://handbrake.fr/ using this setup I can batch convert films instead of one by one by using Handbrake alone.
Steps:
1. DVD Decrypter
2. Using the default settings I select where I want the film to be stored, then just click on the bottom Icon.
3. This takes about 25 minutes depending on the disc.
4. Handbrake
5. Someone on one of the many threads I saw recommended to use the ipod legacy settings, and while this helped, it fell a little short, so I adjusted and came up with the following settings
6. Select Source (this would be where you saved the files previously)
7. I leave Title as is, as long as the Duration looks the right length
8. Browse for a location to save to finished file (make sure you add .m4v to the name)
9. Settings:
a. Format M4V​b. Picture Settings​i. Automatic​ii. Width / Height –Leave Blank​iii. Anamorphic – None​iv. Other settings leave off / unchecked​
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c. Video​i. Video - Video Codec – H.264 (x264)​ii. Video - Framerate – Same as Source​iii. Quality – Target Size – Leave Blank​iv. Quality – Avg Bitrate 1000​v. Quality - Constant Quality 0%​
d. Audio & Subtitles​i. Source – Select English (or your language) IMPORTANT, This will need to be selected for each film you convert, the settings won’t be saved​ii. Audio Codec – AAC​iii. Mixdown – Stereo​iv. Sample Rate 48 kHz​v. Bitrate 128 kbps​
10. I leave Chapters, Advanced and Query Editor alone.
11. Now you can Click ‘Start’, but this will only do one at a time (and as explained in the Handbrake docs, if the GUI crashes you lose the conversion) so I always select ‘Add to Queue’
12. Now you can either ‘Run’ the queue or once you have added the current file to the queue you can now start from Selecting Source and recheck the settings, then ‘Add to Queue’ with the next film, great for batch converting.
Now for me it takes about four hours for each film, so its not quick, but my PCs fairly old (P4 3.0 Mhz, 1500mb RAM), but considering it has to change each frame of the film I don’t think that’s bad.
Once its all done you end up with around a 1-1.5 gb file, transfer this to an SD card.
For viewing I use only HTC Album for these files, both Coreplayer and WMP don’t perform as well (if at all), also although HTC Album is limited in its settings, there is a simple way to convert the picture from Letterbox, to Full Screen, to Cropped (as long as you haven’t entered anything in the picture size ‘Width / Height’ settings) by using the square button on the right hand side when playing a film.
Note 1: I discounted some of the programs I tried because they couldn’t merge the vob (DVD files) files into a single output file, unless you wanted to use yet another program to do this (‘Vob Merge’ can do this, although I never tried it)
Note 2: To avoid any ‘issues’ this should only be used for DVDs you already own.
Just thought I’d share my experience as it took me quite a while to get the results I wanted.
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Thank you you have done a great job.
This tool is also very easy to use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050

That's a good one,but Oh My God! Does that mean the TD2 won't be able to play .avi or .divx? I thought I will just drag and drop my PC videos/movies to the TD2 and it will play flawlessly. I really hate this converting thing..

ithehappy said:
That's a good one,but Oh My God! Does that mean the TD2 won't be able to play .avi or .divx? I thought I will just drag and drop my PC videos/movies to the TD2 and it will play flawlessly. I really hate this converting thing..
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Oh do not worry
I never converted a divx for my TD2.
Never had a problem
But i think if the film is converted our TD2 will drain the battery not fast as not converting at all (just my opinion and NOT confirmed by tests)
Or perhaps it is ok to convert when a divx has a VERY high bitrate.

for me i dont have convert i just use coreplayer to play my movie files

Sorry, I should have made it clearer, but this is for DVD's only, as for most people trying to play 4gb + vob files taken straight from a DVD would pose problems!
As for other formats, it all down to what works best for you.

this is post number 9999999 about the subject, and in many experiences it doesn't really matter which converter u use, but the settings are important, and also important to know is that the mediaplayer that comes with your TD2 (i'm talking about the one that looks like windows mediaplayer) can run HDvideo on your TD2, which for me is the only way i want to watch anyway, cause any other player can't use the diamond 2's HD acceleration for video....
so convert to mp4 (h.264). look up the proper thread for it somewhere in the topaz threads. it's out there somewhere. worked great for me, and gives me the maximum quality on my td2.

TCPMP (Porkie Edition)

This is a version of TCPMP I finished Mar.7,2010. Hope you enjoy!
www.4shared.com/file/236159674/2559877c/porkenhimer_projects_tcpmp__po.html?s=1

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This is a version of TCPMP I built using dll's, plugins & codecs i have collected. Hope you enjoy.
4sharedcom/file/233969768/cdfd473b/tcpmp_porkie_edition
Video Formats:
WMV
XVID
DIVX
MOV
MP4
3GP
FLV
FLV4
H.263
H.264 (AVC)
Plus many more common formats.
Added & Fixed:
Fixed FLV fullscreen shaking by adding a newer FFMPEG.PLG
Added 24 languages
Added 2 subtitle plugins
Added AVRCP control
Added GAPI driver
Fixed equalizer
Instructions:
Install cab to sdcard then open TCPMP for the first time & then close it. After closing copy all the files in the zip to the TCPMP program folder. if it ask to overwrite select yes to all. Do not copy the files to the program folder unless u have already opened and closed TCPMP. After copying the files open TCPMP again. You will get a few error alerts but thats fine. Now you are finished. No need to soft reset.
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what the rubber duck is a 'dll'

4shared.com/file/233969768/cdfd473b/tcpmp_porkie_edition
CORRECT URL

porkenhimer said:
4shared.com/file/233969768/cdfd473b/tcpmp_porkie_edition
CORRECT URL
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I know that Android is beginning to replace WinMo, but if you want to get a foothold on Android your going to have to port your media player to android first.
never used winmo, put had a 'play' the other day, it is truly awful, but haret.exe fixed it, the diamond now has Eclair 2.0 on it, and hell it works much better... when camera fully works will do nand flash and get rid of the winmo bs )

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Firerat said:
I know that Android is beginning to replace WinMo, but if you want to get a foothold on Android your going to have to port your media player to android first.
never used winmo, put had a 'play' the other day, it is truly awful, but haret.exe fixed it, the diamond now has Eclair 2.0 on it, and hell it works much better... when camera fully works will do nand flash and get rid of the winmo bs )
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The main difference between winmo and android/iphone is that one is for professional use (intelligent people who work and think) and one is for entertainment (children, adult handicaps and people who don't know how to hold a pencil). Unfortunately looks like WinPho7 is going that way too - another toy. You might like it

darfri said:
The main difference between winmo and android/iphone is that one is for professional use (intelligent people who work and think) and one is for entertainment (children, adult handicaps and people who don't know how to hold a pencil). Unfortunately looks like WinPho7 is going that way too - another toy. You might like it
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>/dev/null

I don't want to bring you down but you're bundling a lot of useless files (same as Tech1 build... all those dll files are either useless or already exist in the ROM). I get the feeling you used Tech1 pack as base and added some files from the fake 0.81 and the other ones are from bimbam...
Some may prefer the subs.plg (because it works in all video modes) but has a lot of flickering in fullscreen depending on the video size and must be activated (in settings) everytime you play a movie with subs.
Only advantage is that using an old player.exe makes the lyrics plugin work...
However it's a (way) bigger setup, without skin support (unless you consider the backgound used by the lyrics plugin) and older components.

Some Pointers...
You may want to see exactly which plugins your executable uses, and which it does not... These will vary depending on which versions you have. More is not always better, and fewer plugins means more speed, and greater efficiency. With testing, you will be able to determine which ones you can delete, and which ones are necessary...

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Both(topics) are good, imho.
fewer plugins means more speed, and greater efficiency.
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not..exactly..true, but nvmd,
it is matter of choices(and testing, idd).

[APP] WALKMAN - FREE Version Available [U] 4/2/2012

WALKMAN7
DESCRIPTION:
WALKMAN7 provides you with access to a rich database of music.
Search for the latest songs, discover new artists and create playlists on the go.
All music can be streamed and will be stored for offline playback automatically.
WALKMAN7 features a beautiful designed metro-style UI with Icons adapting to your accent color.
The app is quick, remembers all your data, your latest search, your playlists and settings.
It can run under the lockscreen to quickly find and play the music you want wherever you go.
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GET WALKMAN: FREE VERSION (Unlimited Full-Featured Trial) / PRO VERSION (Ad-Free)
FEATURES:
- Create a playlist on the fly
- Find tons and tons of online hosted audio
- Possibility to download content for offline-playback
- Shuffle playback
- Nice metro style interface
- Fast to load and easy to use
- Song already added in the playlist will be marked in search results (* Not anymore)
- Multiple playlists
- Rearrange songs in playlist
- Mass delete songs (multi-select mode)
- Mass add songs to playlist (multi-select mode)
NEW MANGO FEATURES:
- Live Tile --> Displays the current playing song
- Background downloading supported
- Background Playback
- Database
CHANGE LOG
RC1:
- UI
- Rearrange songs
- Speed improvements
- Stability improvements
- Mass adding of songs (multi-select mode)
- Mass delete (multi-select mode)
- Settings page
- Auto offline mode detection
- If Stream over 3G disabled, online songs automatically skipped during playback
- If No Connection, only offline songs are available for playback.
- And many more features/improvements
Beta 2.1:
- Merges databases
- Fixes improper handling of playback controls
- Fixes issues songs deleted from both library and playlist (due to bugs in the database APIs, fixed by merging separate databases).
- Minor UI tune-ups
SOURCE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11995173&postcount=1
GET WALKMAN: FREE VERSION (Unlimited Full-Featured Trial) / PRO VERSION (Ad-Free)

Does not work for me on Omnia 7 (7004), searching works, but streaming the music not. can switch between the songs in playlist through previous and next button but the music isn't playing

cndymn_ said:
Does not work for me on Omnia 7 (7004), searching works, but streaming the music not. can switch between the songs in playlist through previous and next button but the music isn't playing
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oke thanks for the report. Can u send me a pm? Ill send you a debug version soob and we can figure out why it wont work.. Tried to reinstall? Or restart the phone? Sometimes the streaming on wp7 is buggy, i have an omnia 7 as well and sometimes it has trouble to connect. Plus the service which im tapping into was updating its servers today so please keep trying n let me know.

well have flashed my omnia 7 cause had t-mobile germany branding. Have Pre-Update (7008) now and it does not work, too.
tried to restart and the same.
This app would be very usefull for me, if it works

cndymn_ said:
well have flashed my omnia 7 cause had t-mobile germany branding. Have Pre-Update (7008) now and it does not work, too.
tried to restart and the same.
This app would be very usefull for me, if it works
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just checked. Works flawless omnia 7 on tmobile holland. Maybe in germany some sites are blocked? Please send a pm and we will check a debug version. Can you stream other stuff? Which song are u trying? Do you get a cant get stream error? If you dont get this error there is a streaming issue with the device and not the app. If you get the cant get stream error, there could be a different issue.

Use on my HD7, it's look better than old but something doesn't work all all.
My Suggestion.
- Fast forward is not working.
- Can't search by using Artist name.
(with old release, I can search using artist name like "Benny Benassi" , "David Guetta")
- Should has a dedicate application volume control.
- Should has a connection status, sometime I little confuse after tapping my song and wait for a connection that I already have press to play or not.
Keep up the good work, Thank you.

Perlnx said:
Use on my HD7, it's look better than old but something doesn't work all all.
My Suggestion.
- Fast forward is not working.
- Can't search by using Artist name.
(with old release, I can search using artist name like "Benny Benassi" , "David Guetta")
- Should has a dedicate application volume control.
- Should has a connection status, sometime I little confuse after tapping my song and wait for a connection that I already have press to play or not.
Keep up the good work, Thank you.
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Fastforward does work, just drag the progresslider.
I agree with your suggestions, ill implement a progressbar as soon as possible.
im experiencing some problems today. The guys where updating the servers so thats why search was working improperly. You can also use an astrix so search for david*guetta
FIXED FOR THE NEXT RELEASE:
- space becomes astrix in search. So better search results.
- playlist will be updated and saved in the isolated storage after deleting items
- some small incosistencies
UPDATED TO VERSION 2.0.0

Updated to v2.0.0

Marvin_S said:
Updated to v2.0.0
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Great! Thanks for sharing such great app

first of all: your app works perfectly
problem here is only: i only have nice speeds for streaming at home (wifi) or in some areas outside...
It still downloads every music file i play everytime i click on it...thought it works offline?
One thing: Is it possible to make the files save to a directory where zune music on the phone can access it, too?

fiinix said:
Great! Thanks for sharing such great app
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Thank you.
Submitted to the marketplace, let's hope it will get trough. Since a youtube downloader was able to get trough there is hope

diboze said:
first of all: your app works perfectly
problem here is only: i only have nice speeds for streaming at home (wifi) or in some areas outside...
It still downloads every music file i play everytime i click on it...thought it works offline?
One thing: Is it possible to make the files save to a directory where zune music on the phone can access it, too?
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Haha no downloading to the zune folder thats not possible, and very piracy.
Well it does exactly what you say, and it downloads and streams at the same time. If the downloading text goes away the file that was downloading is now stored in your isolated storage. Now you are able to click a different file and download that one, if you click on the previous song it ill start playing instantly.
The reason why I implemented it this way is because of performance and because there is no direct way to capture a streaming file. So it has to be done separately and at the same time most people want to preview or instantly play the song before downloading so that is why it will begin streaming and than downloads whatever song is streaming one by one.
Dont worry, I thought a lot about the implementation, this worked best for me its not the most logical way, but thats due to the lack of mediaelement API's and not b/c of me
All data should be downloaded before it can be saved, if the file is fully downloaded the downloading text will disappear. There is no other way to implement streaming and downloading at the same time... however I can add a separate progressbar which will indicate the percentage downloaded. I might do that for the next release

For me the most use of the program comes by being able to listen to a song you dont have on the phone but u want to listen to right now. So its not really about piracy (at least for me).
As some might have a dataplan an option with ([on] streaming | [off] downloading) and ([off] streaming] | [on] downloading) would be cool

Yes that could be possible...
However I doubt it's really a must.
I'm still thinking about a way to improve the downloading. Maybe some kind of tap and hold and than click download or something.
I will add a progressbar underneath the file that is downloading anyway I think so at least the user can see which song is downloading and the progress.

Hi Marvin,
This is a great app. Very nice and fast. A few things I would like to see.
1. Be able to create multiple play lists.
2. Be able to delete individual files from play List.
3. Be able to move a song up/down in the play list.
4. Be able to move files to different play lists.
5. Option to download later, like a queue.
Thanks

@ Marvin_s
Your Walkman7 v2.0.2 work fine with 3G too!
;-)
@ GIPAQ +1
;-)

GIPAQ said:
Hi Marvin,
This is a great app. Very nice and fast. A few things I would like to see.
1. Be able to create multiple play lists.
2. Be able to delete individual files from play List.
3. Be able to move a song up/down in the play list.
4. Be able to move files to different play lists.
5. Option to download later, like a queue.
Thanks
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2. Is already possible. Same as in mailbox
3. I planned on doing this indeed, but its kind of annoying to implement since i could only do move current playing song up or down, bc if you select a song iylt will start playing.
5. Sounds good but can u explain what u mean? Like download only when tap and hold? This work method is kind of againt the app of having the entire playlist stored on the phone. And does this option disable streaming as well? Because if you stream why not download as well ur using data anyway. Or is the streaming too slow because its downloading as well?
Multiple playlists is a bit of a problem because it will download the songs and eats storagre fast. However i could do something that it will release all resources if the playlist is unloaded, the down effect is no more songs are stored when going back to a different playlist.
Again the suggestions are good however please come up with a way to implement or think about implementation, 30 songs is 90 mb which is isolated storage maximum, having 6 playlists of 5 songs in other words.... Kind of a problem

marvin hello!! i just d/loaded v2.0 in marketplace- 23.03- 00.30 cet!!
i had ur previous version(1.6 or similar) and i didnt pay any attention to the marketplace... just saw familiar name- and installed... could u confirm that the app "hit the streets"??

pasp1001 said:
marvin hello!! i just d/loaded v2.0 in marketplace- 23.03- 00.30 cet!!
i had ur previous version(1.6 or similar) and i didnt pay any attention to the marketplace... just saw familiar name- and installed... could u confirm that the app "hit the streets"??
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YES i just received a mail!! great news great news
lets hope we can get it into as many new hands as possible before it will be taken down
Thanks man

Since the app has hit the marketplace there is no need for the development thread anymore... so the development thread has been removed.
Please report any further suggestions here and provide feedback/rate or comment so I can keep improving the experience. Thanks a lot.

iTunes 11 is awful

I use iTunes. Don't hate me. its the only apple product I use, and IMHO iTunes 10 was the best music player out there. Again, please no hate/flame, I know I'm spewing heresy here.
But iTunes 11... what can I say? I upgraded this morning and its awful. Truly terrible. I'm ready to wash my hands of the last apple product in my life, it I need to find something else.
And I have no idea what. I've tried Winamp, and its even worse. I've also tried Zune and windows media player, and they're both just as bad. iTunes 11 is, sadly, still the best music program I can find, and I hate it.
So, what do you guys recommend as far as PC music players go? I'm willing to try anything, even things off the beaten track.
If only PlayefPro would release a PC version. I'm in love with that app on android.

Have a look at MediaMonkey. I use it and it does all I need and a lot more as well. ID tags can be edited, artwork downloaded, changed, file names standardised, probably everything you can think of.

This is how I use iTunes . . .
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"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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ak700 said:
This is how I use iTunes . . .
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And this is how posts get deleted.

New versions of iTunes always suck. I stopped upgrading a while back.
And the only reason I have an iPod is because it integrates with my car stereo.

Foobar2000 is hands down the best music player for PC, but if you're not an advanced user or don't have the patience to set it up right i wouldn't bother. That said, if you take the time to learn how to use it and discover all the GUI enhancements that are available you will definitely be rewarded for you patience.
Take a look through this thread to see the variety of ways that Foobar can be set up:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/450700/foobar-2000-screenshot-thread

VLC can play music, too.
Or Mediaplayer Classic.
Mediamonkey is pretty decent.
MusicMatch Jukebox used to be good but it's been dead for years
I've stopped updating iTunes on version 9. It wouldn't recognize my iPod on older versions once I hooked it up to a newer one, or i'd have stayed on 7. -.- (The iPod was a gift and it's the only thing for my alarmdock, so I have no choice..)
I just use WMP10. If I want to do any IDtag editing, I do it myself through TagScanner (free!).
What are you looking for in a mediaplayer? Because there's a lot of them.

ShadowLea said:
VLC can play music, too.
What are you looking for in a mediaplayer? Because there's a lot of them.
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Mostly? A decent cd ripper/music file organizer/tag editor that provides a near-full-window grid of sortable album artwork and a decent search function.
something that looks roughly like:
i'll try out some of the ones you guys listed. i do prefer form before function (in this one scenario) because i use zero advanced features of itunes.
oh, and m4a support support is much desired as well.

DirkGently said:
Foobar2000 is hands down the best music player for PC, but if you're not an advanced user or don't have the patience to set it up right i wouldn't bother. That said, if you take the time to learn how to use it and discover all the GUI enhancements that are available you will definitely be rewarded for you patience.
Take a look through this thread to see the variety of ways that Foobar can be set up:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/450700/foobar-2000-screenshot-thread
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Agreed, Foobar is excellent, but not for the average novice user.

looking through that foobar thread, i found an image of something fairly close to what i was looking for. certainly closer than most programs ive found.
i'll download it later - i got a new phone to hack, so i'm otherwise occupied ATM =D

I don't use ITunes for listening to music.
The only things it is used for is downloading a few podcasts onto the iPod and for putting music onto my iPod.

http://amarok.kde.org/
Haven't tried it for Windows, but its my preferred player/library manager on Linux.

i was encouraged to repost this in this thread, a problem i ran into with iTunes 11
Maybe someone can help me?
Hey, I updated to iTunes 11 and i had to realize, that my perfectly tagged Audiobooks are now out of order. I have them tagged with Disc# and Track#
The (expected) behaviour from iTunes 10 was to sort them this way (CD prior Track):
CD1 Track1
CD1 Track2
CD1 Track3
CD2 Track1
CD2 Track2
CD2 Track3
now on iTunes 11 on the new Popup they are sorted like this, which is obviously not the order Audiobooks are to be played (Track prior CD):
CD1 Track1
CD2 Track1
CD3 Track1
CD1 Track2
CD2 Track2
CD3 Track2
Can anyone help me out of this dilema? Also i couldn't find a way to enable the list or album view for Audiobooks, so i can't have them sort by individual fields there...
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punshkin said:
i was encouraged to repost this in this thread, a problem i ran into with iTunes 11
Maybe someone can help me?
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Can you rename them? All my audiobooks are just mp3's. Just name them D01T01, D01T02, D02T01, etc. At the front of the title.
Or just number them all Disc 1, and then keep counting, so CD2 becomes Disc 01 Track 04, etc.

ShadowLea said:
Can you rename them? All my audiobooks are just mp3's. Just name them D01T01, D01T02, D02T01, etc. At the front of the title.
Or just number them all Disc 1, and then keep counting, so CD2 becomes Disc 01 Track 04, etc.
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i have a multi-GB collection here, most of which are bought directly from iTunes, so i'd expect them to work with the new iTunes without renaming 1000's of files, which would take ages...
Maybe there is an option to set sorting priorities i am missing?

There's an option in the settings to have iTunes auto-orgaize everything. I've never had problems like you're saying, but then again I've never had that checked. Perhaps that's why?-l

unchecked, and rechecked,
had no effect :crying:

ITunes was never good

samuel2706 said:
ITunes was never good
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actually i was very satisfied with iTunes10 until iTunes11 messed my collection up

DirkGently said:
Foobar2000 is hands down the best music player for PC, but if you're not an advanced user or don't have the patience to set it up right i wouldn't bother. That said, if you take the time to learn how to use it and discover all the GUI enhancements that are available you will definitely be rewarded for you patience.
Take a look through this thread to see the variety of ways that Foobar can be set up:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/450700/foobar-2000-screenshot-thread
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Thanks for that tip, i will give that ago instead of winamp..
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