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This is a problem where you have an apparently good 3G signal BUT you cannot make or receive calls or texts and you can't establish a data connection. There is no obvious sign that you are in this state until you try to call, text or access data.
The "solution" from T-Mobile in the UK is to force the phone "band" setting from Auto to GSM, then it works. But of course its not a solution as you lose 3G.
If you are at work with a 3 icon on your phone, just try calling it from your desk and see if you get straight to voicemail or not.
After discussions with T-Mobile they are sending me a replacement handset but if the postings in Modaco are anything to go by then I am not alone in this.
What is not clear is whether this is restricted to:
1. The T-Mobile UK network
2. The T-Mobile UK Vario III firmware
3. A combination of the above
4. A general design fault with some Kaiser's
This is being discussed in the Modaco forums but I couldn't find any mention here.
I make dozens of calls, and send around 50+ SMS a day.
No problems in the last month.
I am an Australian Kaiser owner running on the Three network.
ROM: 1.81.861.0 WWE
Hi there,
I have the same issue on T-Mobile in Germany.
What I have not been able to figure out is if the phone works again after a while or if one needs to reset (as I always do).
Regards,
Martin
I have tried soft resets and even a hard reset and it appears to be random whether it starts working again. This seems to be same experience as the Modaco users.
thinksmart said:
Hi there,
I have the same issue on T-Mobile in Germany.
What I have not been able to figure out is if the phone works again after a while or if one needs to reset (as I always do).
Regards,
Martin
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mbriody said:
This is a problem where you have an apparently good 3G signal BUT you cannot make or receive calls or texts and you can't establish a data connection. There is no obvious sign that you are in this state until you try to call, text or access data.
What is not clear is whether this is restricted to:
1. The T-Mobile UK network
2. The T-Mobile UK Vario III firmware
3. A combination of the above
4. A general design fault with some Kaiser's
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Well, I worked for T-Mobile UK recently and had the very same issue on my Vario II, even whilst at work where there was a large mast and the 3G coverage was the strongest in the country.
on further investigation, everyone else in the area had the same issue. sometimes it would work ok, a lot of the time i had to manually set to 2G just to be able to use the phone functions.
in T-Mob we could check the strength of various 2 & 3G signals by postcode, and the signal in the area was very strong, with no outstanding work issues or problems (according to our system)
was never able to figure out why this was happening, and nobody was able to answer the questions.
so -
seems to be T-Mob UK (perhaps just in various areas at various times), and is not limited to your Kaiser / Vario, so at least you can relax cos it's not a faulty phone
Thanks for the very useful post. Unfortunately that doesn't give us a solution. If this cannot be fixed then T-Mobile is useless for me.
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was never able to figure out why this was happening, and nobody was able to answer the questions.
so -
seems to be T-Mob UK (perhaps just in various areas at various times), and is not limited to your Kaiser / Vario, so at least you can relax cos it's not a faulty phone
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i've been experiencing the same - no data access when using 3g (whilst showing 2 bars) but connecting fine using gsm.
can anyone point me in the direction of a replacement comm manager with the same icons as the default kaiser but with a 3g switch in the vacant slot ?
i've been looking at a few replacement comm managers but can't seem to find what i'm looking for ...
This is NOT a problem with your Kaiser, replacing your phone will not make a difference. It is problem with your provider's tower hard/software. Strange that T-Mobile has not told you this when you contacted them about it.
T-Mobile in the Netherlands does not have this problem, but the KPN network does. KPN is however in the process of replacing the faulty hardware (or maybe they are already done now, even) and suddenly the problem disappears
Found the solution!!
Hello,
I had the same problem untill one day I inserted my sim card in another phone (a very old nokia - as basic as it gets).
For some reason that I don't know, when I put the sim card back in the TyTN II it was working and keeps on working.
This has happened over a month ago, and I now don't hv a problem.
Try to do the same, see if it works for You
Regards
XTP
Nope, I already tried the SIM in another phone (an SE W880i) and it was okay. I put it back in the Vario III and it still didn't work.
I also tried soft and hard resets.
xtp73 said:
Hello,
I had the same problem untill one day I inserted my sim card in another phone (a very old nokia - as basic as it gets).
For some reason that I don't know, when I put the sim card back in the TyTN II it was working and keeps on working.
This has happened over a month ago, and I now don't hv a problem.
Try to do the same, see if it works for You
Regards
XTP
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i can confirm that this didn't work for me either. :-(
worth a try though ...
I had this with a Hermes on Orange UK a year ago. They admitted that the local cell was faulty and was being fixed and asked me to go to GSM for a week. After a week I switched back and it was fine.
Am now using a Kaiser (O Tytn2) in same location and its fine.
well i know ive been having problems sending mms whenever im on the 3g network, but as soon as i switch to gsm then the mms sends fine!
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This is NOT a problem with your Kaiser, replacing your phone will not make a difference. It is problem with your provider's tower hard/software. Strange that T-Mobile has not told you this when you contacted them about it.
T-Mobile in the Netherlands does not have this problem, but the KPN network does. KPN is however in the process of replacing the faulty hardware (or maybe they are already done now, even) and suddenly the problem disappears
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This is correct, the problem is indeed not your Tytn II. I've called with a dutch provider (Telfort) which makes use of the KPN network. And it is technically not possible. So we must wait till the provider makes sure this is possible.
I also was surprised that they never told me this in advance. Actually they didn't knew it was an problem till I called them.
Er, exactly what "is not possible"?
3G to 2G switching works fine on my other phone (an HSDPA-enabled Nokia 6120 Classic, on the same network).
So how can this not be handset related? I can see how it could be a combination of the phone and the network but if other handsets can cope then it must be related to the handset in some way.
Incidentally I am now using my replacement Vario III and so far so good but its early days yet.
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This is correct, the problem is indeed not your Tytn II. I've called with a dutch provider (Telfort) which makes use of the KPN network. And it is technically not possible. So we must wait till the provider makes sure this is possible.
I also was surprised that they never told me this in advance. Actually they didn't knew it was an problem till I called them.
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which ROM versions are experiencing this problem?
I get this in the UK on a Tuesday at around 16:00 and then all is ok after 17:00. If I turn off HSDPA then this does not happen at all.
My view is the T-Mobile network. Being as I know when it happens its not a problem but I think they have time slots for software upgrades etc to the HSDPA side of things and this is when your phone goes into a GSM lockout.
If I keep the phone on 2g then it never happens .
This also happened on my N95 on the same day at the same time also , so i would guess its a network thing
I had this occur again this morning, on the new handset. I tried to call home with a full set of bars and the phone in 3G - the call wouldn't go through.
Switched to 2G, call goes through.
The problem is that when you are in this mode there is no way to tell, without trying to make a call. Your phone is effectively useless as no-one can call or text you and you can't call out. You are blissfully unaware.
This is not an acceptable situation.
wardy said:
I get this in the UK on a Tuesday at around 16:00 and then all is ok after 17:00. If I turn off HSDPA then this does not happen at all.
My view is the T-Mobile network. Being as I know when it happens its not a problem but I think they have time slots for software upgrades etc to the HSDPA side of things and this is when your phone goes into a GSM lockout.
If I keep the phone on 2g then it never happens .
This also happened on my N95 on the same day at the same time also , so i would guess its a network thing
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I have suddenly started to experience this problem on T-Mobile UK, starting last night. It finds a 3G network, but I cannot receive or send calls or SMS. If the network drops to 2G, I can generally receive texts, but it's only if I lower my band to GSM only that I can make or receive calls, or use data.
T-Mobile are generally crappy in my area anyway, my phone is forever flipping between 2 and 3G. Can anyone confirm what 3's coverage is like in south london (stockwell area if possible) and what sort of data/call packages you can get sim-only, as I fear that they may not work out as cheap as T-mobile's.
incidentally, I don't think it's an MDA vario problem as I'm running the TyTn II.
So, I've lived in an area with just EDGE and my TyTN II for a year now without probs. I've changed the ROMs after using HardSPL from Olipro, etc. without probs. I went over the weekend to Ft. Lauderdale, which is a 3G area, and my phone went crazy. It first shows an H with full strength... then when I try to make a call, it either won't connect or the signal goes completely dead. Other times if I just watch it, it will switch between H, 3G, E, and even G. Sometimes it'll even lose the signal altogether. What is going on?!? I've tried different radios (1.65.20.29 with WM6.1, 1.27.12.11 WM6.0, etc.) and they all do the same thing.
Interestingly, if I go to phone settings and change my band detection things from Auto to GSM and the data to 4 U.S. GSM frequencies, it goes right to Edge and all phone calls go through fine (but now I don't have 3G/H data)
Any ideas guys?
Funny, I have the opposite problem. Live in 3G. Two months ago I went to an area that doesn't have 3g. The G icon popped on my phone for the first time ever. It switched betweeen E and G constantly. The phone dropped calls constantly. The problem followed me home. The G pops up at my house now. I am still having the drop calls. There is a thread on here about this. Unfortunately, I have not found a solution. I have been calling ATT about it. I had to keep calling to get them to check it out. They say it some software issue with their towers. Don't know but I get $50 credit and 1000 rollover minutes from them
After you flash your ROM you should always do a master reset to ensure you don't run into any problems. Did you flash your ROM with the SIM card in the phone? They say you should take it out of the phone when Flashing.
yeah, i've been flashing all along with the SIM without issue... but of course, I've never gone to a 3G area with the phone until now. Outside of 3G areas, I don't have the problem... I called and asked about any issues in Ft. Lauderdale, and AT&T said there weren't any network issues and to bring in the phone........ of course I have an unlocked TyTN II (not a Tilt) bought from a retailer here (its original CID is DOPOD something), so they wouldn't be helping me much if I brought it in.... argh...
Same problem with my device
I have a stock Kaiser 130 series (T-Mobile Vario III) and the same issue (H->3G->E->Nothing) happened to me after doing a lot of roaming (China, Japan, USA, Europe, ...). First I also thought that this might be a SW issue but no reset, flash, etc. could fix it. These symptoms are also described in a lot of other forums (Google helps ) and the verdict: bring the phone back to the dealer.
In my case: T-Mobile already knew about this problem with the Kaiser and exchanged the motherboard of the phone during warranty....
I'm not sure if this is helpful to you - at least it might save you some time fiddling around...
Yes, this is due to a radio hardware problem in early units, that chimes in after a few months. Mine is at the service center for the same issue right now. No other solution. There are already several threads about that.
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Yes, this is due to a radio hardware problem in early units, that chimes in after a few months. Mine is at the service center for the same issue right now. No other solution. There are already several threads about that.
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Same issue here, WCDMA is broken ("no service" when locking to WCDMA, GSM only when using Auto). It was intermittent for a while but now has kicked in as a full-time UMTS/WCDMA failure. It also cost me $150 in excess data charges as the disconnect/reconnect caused some apps to relogin overnight
It does look like a RMA is the only solution, I'll post if there's another way - I'm going to try debugging the RIL (Radio Interface Layer) to see if I can get any more info out of it.
cheers
Sometimes people call me and get a message saying my phone is off or out of service. But when I look at it, it often shows 4 bars of service..
When I call someone, the problem disappears temporarily, and I start receiving calls again (and I receive all the SMS's I was supposed to get at once), only to appear again later for no reason (a soft reset also solves it). It's not related to location, it also happens when I spend the day at home (where I get a strong signal).
I don't think it's a operator problem either, since my operator is known for it's good services, and other people who use "normal" phones never had such a problem.
I tried 3 different ROMs (dutty's hybrid, Hyperdragon and AthineOS) and 3 different radios (dutty's radio (1.65 something), hyperdragon's (1.70 something), and eMo radio). Right now I'm using AthineOS with hyperdragon III's radio, and almost no programs installed..
This problem happens both in 3G and EDGE mode.
Anything I can do about it?
Send it in for repair?
Seems you tried all you could...
Don't think I can send it for repair, since it's an AT&T Tilt and I'm not even in the US..
Guess I'm outta luck then
Anyone else have any ideas?
have you tried the sim in another handset, sounds like a network problem to me.
3G Network
Are you using 3G Network?
Sometime I use 3G band and even It show good signal I loose phone calls.
I changed to GSM and no phone calls loose.
This happens in São Paulo/Brazil but...
EDIT: Sorry. Now I saw that you reported this problem also using GSM band.
Thanks.
I am not sure if you're using your US SIM card in a foreign country?
Maybe you just forgot to enable INTERNATIONAL ROAMING before you left ... ?
I'm having the same problem
I seem to have started with the same problem about a week ago. A couple people complained that they called me but it rang twice and went to voicemail - My phone never rang. However, after I made a call (or apparently did something to "wakeup" the phone), I would get the voicemail notification (2 hours later).
I tried reseating the SIM card, but then it went to "SIM Card Missing". I did a hard reset, but that didn't help. I took it back to AT&T and they replaced the SIM Card. That seemed to work again, and certainly would have been a convenient fix (bad SIM card - too easy). So I've just spent all weekend reloading all the apps, but now it's happening again!!
The symptoms are; After I reboot the device, I can receive one or two calls, then it doesn't ring anymore (the caller hears 2 rings then it goes to voicemail). If I cycle the Phone radio button in the Comm Manager, or cycle power, it comes back to life for 1 call, then craps out again.
I'm just using the standard AT&T ROM (without the Bloatware after this past reset) and the standard/default radio version 1.27.12.11
The only thing that I have noticed that seems different lately is that the "Comm Manager" task is always running when I look at the running programs (which I don't think it used to) I had also recently installed Garmin XT.
The device is of course 1 yr + 2 weeks (so I assume just out of warranty)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
Hmmm,
what I would try, is, to just make a hard reset, load only my contacts to the phone and run it for a while to monitor its "Incalling" behavior. If everything seems to be fine, I would go ahead and start installing an application, then monitor my device again for a while, if everything is fine I will go ahead install the next application ... and so on. That is just to make sure that no 3rd party application causes this problems.
BTW:
I don't think that GARMIN causes this problem. I used to run Garmin on my HTC too (v5.0) until I came accross SYGIC McGuider (which works much better and card scrolling is much smoother than Garmin).
Well,
to come back to the point: if you get the same problems without loading any 3rd party application on your device, then I would recommend trying another ROM (best advice: go with the HTC stock ROM). If it also happens with the other ROM then it might be hardware related and difficult to fix.
Thanks - I knew that's what I should do, I just didn't want to do it after having spent all weekend reloading and configuring it. I thought I had read somewhere about Garmin having to have the phone radio on to work, so I was hoping there was a setting somewhere that I was missing that was powering the radio down. But..... I suppose it's time to go back to common sense and just do the reset
So far it seems to be working now. I'll give it a few days with just the basics and then start reloading one at a time.
Thanks for the quick response!
Spoke too soon
looks like I spoke too soon, it's doing it again - seems like it was fine for about 3 hours, but now .....
guess it's time to try my luck with AT&T - time to see how good their customer service is
bbaydiver said:
looks like I spoke too soon, it's doing it again - seems like it was fine for about 3 hours, but now .....
guess it's time to try my luck with AT&T - time to see how good their customer service is
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Well, I'm experiencig totally same stuff here. I don't know whats really going on. I've NEVER before had such or even simialr problem.
Ive installed stock HTC ROM. And its going again.
One question. Are you using Opera Mini maybe?
kristoff_sz said:
Well, I'm experiencig totally same stuff here. I don't know whats really going on. I've NEVER before had such or even simialr problem.
Ive installed stock HTC ROM. And its going again.
One question. Are you using Opera Mini maybe?
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no, I was just using the default browser.
I've got nothing installed on it at this point so I'm guessing it's hardware related.
Over the last couple months I had been experiencing some strange battery drainage (not related to the GPS issues). I don't know if that was a symptom or not. It just seems like the radio is going to sleep somehow - it wakes up for a little while if I sync my email, cycle the radio via comm manager, or cycle the power.
Anyone know if there is a setting somewhere that controls that? (sure would be nice if it were that simple)
The AT&T store was basically useless, all they did was give me the phone number for the warranty department (but since I'm 2 weeks past warranty, he doesn't think they'll help me), and of course offer to upgrade me to the Fuze for $375 - no thanks!
I've had the same issue (I think). I too think that it seems to happen when I have a 3G data connection active and moving back to GPRS (non 3G) seems to make it better....
I'm on a standard UK ROM and using BTMobile as a provider.
I was driving down the motorway the other day and overtook a friend. He rang me and went straight to voicemail. I then got a text to say that I had a voicemail and rang him back.
I was running TomTom Traffic at the time so would have had a data session enabled....
I think its something to do with the data session sometimes not letting a call through but can't put my finger on anything and certainly can't find an option to change any settings...
Also, even at home, I'm constantly picking up my phone to see that it "has no signal" and the exclamation mark is displayed - so calls aren't coming through - but it then connects and shows a three-bar strength signal. Don't understand why it keeps dropping out, but I get a 3G connection at the front of my house and an ordinary G connection at the back and I think that it sometimes to stay connected to the 3G connection for data even when the phone signal is very poor and it would be better dropping that and connecting at "old" GPRS speed...
Same on the train on the west coast main line out of London. I think having the 3G turned on causes the phone signal to drop out completely more than when 3G is turned off, as the phone tries to hang on to the signal of a 3G cell and doesn't successfully switch over to the next "non 3G" cell whilst in a call.
have you tried a new radio such as NIKI's?
well, AT&T warranty was even less than useless. Home phone, Internet, and Wireless all through AT&T and the best they can do is "see if they could get me a deal on a new phone" or refer me to HTC technical support. Nice customer service AT&T!!!
HTC technical support was actually trying to be helpful, once she found out I already did a hard reset, she referred me to their warranty group. They looked up the S/N and it's still under their warranty (I guess theirs is 15 months after manufacture date). Now the only problem is I have to send it in to them to see if it's covered under warranty, and of course be willing to go without my phone for 2 weeks (and pay them a yet to be determined amount if they decide it's not under warranty).
I'd like to try a different radio, but looks like there's too much for me to read up on - I need to get the device fixed, I've already lost too much time with it being messed up and me screwing with it.
Update
so this morning I was ready to throw in the towel and send the device back to HTC. At least they were willing to help me out, unlike AT&T.
I get to work, and of course the phone seems to be working (which isn't unusual, it works for a little while then craps out). Come lunch time, it's still working (now this is unusual, it must be a fluke, I'll give a couple more hours before I package it up). 4:00 and it's still working! Now I'm starting to wonder if it's got to do with the cell towers near my house (and the AT&T store since it did it for them too).
I email my buddy who lives about 1/2 mile away and also has a Tilt just to see if he's had any similar problems. He calls me back laughing. There's 5 People in his office with the exact same problem (and not all Tilts either).
So to make a short story long....... it appears to be a problem with AT&T, NOT the device (but Thank You very much AT&T for the incredible customer care you demonstrated and for trying to screw me into buying new devices for outrageous prices)
So at this point, I'm not sure if it's that AT&T has fixed the issue across the board, or if it was the "Resync the routing" that the online chat person tried last night that finally propagated across the network (I assume so that AT&T can find my phone in order to route the calls to me).
I guess we'll see if it does the same thing when I get back closer to home tonight, but I'm relieved that it appears to be fixed.
Thanks everyone for the suggestions! Now I have a little more time to read about how I can screw up my phone on my own schedule - all the practice of resetting it and reinstalling everything, and seeing how much faster it is has inspired me
Hi bbaydiver
Did Att fix your problem? I had same issue with my tilt 8925. I tried all the orginal Att rom "same problem". After couple minute, I can't receive and make call. thanks
kwong1998 said:
Hi bbaydiver
Did Att fix your problem? I had same issue with my tilt 8925. I tried all the orginal Att rom "same problem". After couple minute, I can't receive and make call. thanks
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Have you tied asking AT$T for a new sim card ? They do wear out you know.
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Have you tied asking AT$T for a new sim card ? They do wear out you know.
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I didn't tried asking AT&T for a new sim card. but I will call them to change the sim card. Does anybody know how to disable the 3G function?
Just a "me too..."
Hello everyone. I just wanted to report that I'm having the same issues...they started about a week or so ago.
I've had my AT&T Tilt for about 8 months now (it's a warranty replacement for my first tilt, bought in July...so of course, I'm out of warranty). I recently had problems receiving calls, and then I started being unable to make calls, even though my phone shows a decent signal...anywhere from 4 bars to 2 bars. When dialing, it'll say "Dialing..." for a few seconds...and then it clicks off. A soft reset will fix things temporarily, but that's it.
I'm running the stock AT&T ROM (I'll check the version number if someone thinks it'll help), and I've tried doing a hard reset AND replacing the SIM card. Same effect.
Someone please let me know if they resolved this problem. AT&T offered me an HTC Fuze...but I'm extremely wary of other phones by this manufacturer. I'm very, VERY tired of phones crapping out on me after having just spend a couple of hundred bucks on them. At this point, I'm just looking for something reliable. If someone else here has had problems with the Fuze, please let me know...not to start any fights around here, but I'm actually thinking about going with the iPhone.
Thanks.
Voice and 2G/3G connection every now and then falls away.
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Hi I have a plan with extra fast with endless online. But every now and then suddenly falls away and my connection voice and 2G/3G can I just restore it in airplane mode to turn back and pick up.
Are there more people with same problem? I have an G1. The SIM card only 8 weeks old.
I like to hear from you.
I have experienced this before also.
Happens to me fairly often too.
Exactly just had this happen to me today while in the grocery store. Rebooted and it was back, but still weird.
I actually used to have that problem too, where data just went away. Rebooting worked, but then one day a reboot didn't work, next day I got 3g. Then I decided to go to hero roms and haven't had the problem since, so I think that hero does something that fixes the network
Sometimes i go from a 3G to G then ut decides to go to edge.There are even times when it doesnt connect to data at all.
you go in and out of coverage area's and that's what happen's, t-mobile's 3g network isn't as expansive as they'd have you believe, plenty of pockets/holes throughout, even in places where it should be all 3g.
how is this post not moved/deleted/flamed yet for being in the dev's section :-D
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you go in and out of coverage area's and that's what happen's, t-mobile's 3g network isn't as expansive as they'd have you believe, plenty of pockets/holes throughout, even in places where it should be all 3g.
how is this post not moved/deleted/flamed yet for being in the dev's section :-D
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Yeah, but I mean that I would have data then it would turn off and it would turn back on in the same place after a reboot.
And I think most of us just finally gave up on keeping questions out of the development sections, it is a lost cause. At least for me it is
Well yes staying on tmo might as well be a lost cause...i struggle to stay on 3G and even on data period, i doubt verizon or sprint would give me these troubles...
It's not a coverage problem, It can happen at the top floor of my school where usually I would have full bars, and as said it's fixed by switching into Airplane mode and then back to normal mode.
I think it happens when it's in my pocket and the coverage strength goes up and down a lot, maybe it gets a bit confused lol (Although it didn't happen on the stock firmware, running Cyanogen 4.2.7.1)
Its not only T-mobile, I too have that problem that too being in India on Airtel Also had these problems at National Roaming... Means When I was Out of local Network too... So its not the Problem of Coverage...
There's an open bug for this particular problem
Cf:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2845
I've had this problem since day one on my G1, it doesn't matter what ROM I'm running, it even did it with the stock ROM.
It seems Android isn't so great at reconnecting you to the network once you've lost signal. Ideally you need a process running in the background to reconnect you - think 'No Signal Alert' in the market with an option to scan for networks then reconnect you.
I've got a shortcut on one of my home screens to the network operators scan page as I have to do this most days
Good old T-Mobile coverage..
Well with the rumors of Sprint and T-Mobile merging hopefully they will band together and give us better coverage. 3G and or 4G all day and all night would be HUGE!!!
If any big CEO's is reading this from either of these companies, PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!
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Well with the rumors of Sprint and T-Mobile merging hopefully they will band together and give us better coverage. 3G and or 4G all day and all night would be HUGE!!!
If any big CEO's is reading this from either of these companies, PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!
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HA Ha Ha Ha............ NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!
We would never ever take that network over....Ours maybe spotty but we WILL have the fastest 3G Network................4G is a joke...if you look at the fine print 4G is their goal but isn't even possible yet....DT (t-moble Mother company) over seas was looking into buying sprint but they're in way too much debt....issues from this post sounds like simcard or issues with the IHLR (our backdoor) so call t-mobile to make sure it cannot be fix on our end or... it can be a bad radio download or flash...I have 1 bar on 3G and 2 on edge but i have never had the issues stated in this post so coverage is not it!!! hope this helps!
I also have issues with signal being dropped or getting hung. My G1 will be sitting in the same place for an hour or longer and sometimes it just stops transfering data. I'll check it by going to the market and it can take a few min before anything happens. Sometimes when I download an app from the market it will take up to 5 or 10 min to see anything transfer. I haven't noticed any issues with taking or making calls but data transfers are touch and go. Now sometimes I won't have a problem all day then the next day...in the same spot with great coverage....data transfers just seem to be sketchy. I don't know if it's t-mobile or the roms but something is quirky.
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I also have issues with signal being dropped or getting hung. My G1 will be sitting in the same place for an hour or longer and sometimes it just stops transfering data. I'll check it by going to the market and it can take a few min before anything happens. Sometimes when I download an app from the market it will take up to 5 or 10 min to see anything transfer. I haven't noticed any issues with taking or making calls but data transfers are touch and go. Now sometimes I won't have a problem all day then the next day...in the same spot with great coverage....data transfers just seem to be sketchy. I don't know if it's t-mobile or the roms but something is quirky.
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Actually i have seen that happening with the market too but only with a theme added to the rom...must be something with background data transfers and the theme using too much memory....but is not an issue at all on non rooted phones....i checked at work!!!
curious
Not to get off the subject but to the t-mobile guy I want to know how did u get the job with them? I applied a few times but got no response.
bryanpen said:
Not to get off the subject but to the t-mobile guy I want to know how did u get the job with them? I applied a few times but got no response.
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Pm me since off topic....
Hi Guys,
Been searching the forum about this but cant find anything so i have registered myself to open this thread.
So, i have recently bought the HTC one from Three (Moved from o2) on the unlimited one plan. The only problem is that I cant get the internet to work, the phone says i have 4 full bars of signal with 'H' connection but the pages will not load at all. When it does work, it will work for 10 mins and then would just stop working again till it decides to stop being moody again.
I have tried switching off the phone, re inserting the sim card but the problem was still there. Therefore, I have called up Three customer services and they said that ' THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE AND THERE IS NOT A FIX' he also agreed that I can cancel my contract (employees in the store have different opinions all together). I now have a phone which cant get online (95% of the time) and a data plan that i cannot use!
So can someone who has this phone with three network UK please tell me whether you are facing this problem? If no one is facing this problem then i am happy to put it down to the handset and get it replaced if not i will leave altogether.
Please note, web browsing on wifi is fine and when i have this issue wifi is switched off.
Thanks,
Mareen
It's do to Three being too heavy congested... I get this sometimes on my LG fone. I have 2 different APN's that I use for Three & they both do this. Try, going into Airplane mode & then back on to reset the data connection. Sadly, this will happen due to more people using Three & they can't support the amount of bandwidth.
This is what happens with Unlimited data plans. The more people use unlimited data, the more likely you will have problems connecting at peak times... thus, meaning whats the point in Unlimited?!.
IMHO, network providers should be making sure they have reliable data connections rather than aiming for 100+mps data speeds!.
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It's do to Three being too heavy congested... I get this sometimes on my LG fone. I have 2 different APN's that I use for Three & they both do this. Try, going into Airplane mode & then back on to reset the data connection. Sadly, this will happen due to more people using Three & they can't support the amount of bandwidth.
This is what happens with Unlimited data plans. The more people use unlimited data, the more likely you will have problems connecting at peak times... thus, meaning whats the point in Unlimited?!.
IMHO, network providers should be making sure they have reliable data connections rather than aiming for 100+mps data speeds!.
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Thanks for your reply but this is not just peak time issue. I face this problem all the time and the customer services person also said it's a known issue and possibly there won't be any fix. He also stated the phone gets stuck in this mode due to all the apps installed by three but if that is the case then surely more people would have flagged this up.
I just don't know what to do. This one plan is so good and everyone at work are mostly on it but how can they connect and I cant from the same location same time if it is what you are insisting about congested network?
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Thanks for your reply but this is not just peak time issue. I face this problem all the time and the customer services person also said it's a known issue and possibly there won't be any fix. He also stated the phone gets stuck in this mode due to all the apps installed by three but if that is the case then surely more people would have flagged this up.
I just don't know what to do. This one plan is so good and everyone at work are mostly on it but how can they connect and I cant from the same location same time if it is what you are insisting about congested network?
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Welcome to three UK
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Wow a lot of hate for 3. I am using the one on the 3 network and do not have any problems whatsoever. I get consistent good speeds between 3 - 10 mbit/s without any of the issues described.
I am in London which is very congested. I am using an unlocked htc one and not a phone provided by 3 so it is possible that it is something to do with 3s Rom. But i think it is much more likely just a bad device and you should get it replaced.
It is definitely not a "known issue" with the phone or we would have heard a lot more about it on these forums.
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Exactly! Hence this thread. Im also based in london and this issue happened in any locations i been too! Im torn between staying with them or getting it replaced.
If getting it replaced i will lose the 7 day cancellation period.
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Thanks for your reply but this is not just peak time issue. I face this problem all the time and the customer services person also said it's a known issue and possibly there won't be any fix. He also stated the phone gets stuck in this mode due to all the apps installed by three but if that is the case then surely more people would have flagged this up.
I just don't know what to do. This one plan is so good and everyone at work are mostly on it but how can they connect and I cant from the same location same time if it is what you are insisting about congested network?
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& tbf, mine doesn't just happen on peak times either. When I worked for O2 in Pay Monthly, I used to advise customers thats why they have a fair usage in place to prevent data connection issues. Unlimited Data on O2 used to be around 2GB/3GB & anyone who used to go over a lot used to get a text to let them know of cut off there data connection for that month. I left O2 a year ago after working for them for 2 years in Customer Services in Pay Monthly, so know a fair bit about signal & data & why there's generally a fair usage in place.
Three are VERY good at marketing themselves as All You Can Eat but as more people jump onto Three's network, the more you will have data issues. What Three have said is complete crap as my fone is sim free with no bloatware & its all due to there network & NOTHING to do with what fone you have.
I am on Three's Pay As You Go £15 300, 3000 Texts & All You Can Eat Data which Includes Tethering. Soon, Three will have to either cut back All You Can Eat or build more on there infestrure...
i would suggest its a problem with the '3' device. I am on a sim only plan with '3' and using a sim free device i purchased from phones4u, the phone works fine with only the occasional slow connection which i personally put down to congestion. I am in Wiltshire and generally get around 3 to 15mb download depending on time of day and amount of traffic on the network.
Never had a problem with my one on 3! Although in Milton Keynes today it went to Roaming!!!!!!!! Still worked (roaming was turned off) off to London next week so will see what happens with mine. Still mega impressed with the phone...
No issue with my 3 device in Essex and London, although do have issue 40 floors up but I expect that!
I'm on a SIM free device with Three. Never had a data problem yet and have excellent speeds.
Sussex.
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mareen77 said:
Hi Guys,
Been searching the forum about this but cant find anything so i have registered myself to open this thread.
So, i have recently bought the HTC one from Three (Moved from o2) on the unlimited one plan. The only problem is that I cant get the internet to work, the phone says i have 4 full bars of signal with 'H' connection but the pages will not load at all. When it does work, it will work for 10 mins and then would just stop working again till it decides to stop being moody again.
I have tried switching off the phone, re inserting the sim card but the problem was still there. Therefore, I have called up Three customer services and they said that ' THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE AND THERE IS NOT A FIX' he also agreed that I can cancel my contract (employees in the store have different opinions all together). I now have a phone which cant get online (95% of the time) and a data plan that i cannot use!
So can someone who has this phone with three network UK please tell me whether you are facing this problem? If no one is facing this problem then i am happy to put it down to the handset and get it replaced if not i will leave altogether.
Please note, web browsing on wifi is fine and when i have this issue wifi is switched off.
Thanks,
Mareen
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Have you tried
1. Check the APN settings (try to delete and add again manually)
2. Set mobile network to 3G only (as opposed to the 2G/3G/LTE option)
Here I get barely 200Kbit/sec down and a megabit up, HSPA+ 21.6Mbit
In the next town I get 15+Mbit down and over 2 megabit up, again HSPA+ 21.6Mbit
Massive difference, and consistent with both places too. Three acknowledge the congestion issues and claim engineers are looking into it, but its been months.
Same speed on T-Mobile here so it's probably a MBNL site...no idea who to complain to tbh!
I get 10-20 mb dl speeds on Birmingham, never had any issues, don't really get the three hate. Been with them for 5 years.
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Oh wow!
I'm getting the exact same problem but couldnt find anyone mentioning it so thought I must be doing something wrong!
I'm on EE (Orange) and I get cut outs quite regularly even though it shows full signal. Usually turning it on and off again or switching to airplane mode resolves it but it really is starting to pi$$ me off! :crying:
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Oh wow!
I'm getting the exact same problem but couldnt find anyone mentioning it so thought I must be doing something wrong!
I'm on EE (Orange) and I get cut outs quite regularly even though it shows full signal. Usually turning it on and off again or switching to airplane mode resolves it but it really is starting to pi$$ me off! :crying:
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with ee its a totally different problem, there is a thread on it somewhere, its basically when you switch between 3g and 4g its cuts off,
have a look for the thread
I'm on Orange (although the phone usually shows EE) and I'm seeing this too.
If I leave my house, quite often as soon as the WiFi disconnects, I don't get a data connection. Again, I have the little "H" or "3G" displayed but I need to hit airplane mode on/off to wake it up.
Starting to wonder if it's a handset issue... I'll see if I can run some logcat next time I'm moving around. Doesn't do it all the time, if I leave work, then the wifi > H transition seems fine.
Thanks for the info guys. I used to be with three when they actually entered UK and their service was really good back then in my area. So i think this problem lies with the handset i think. Im going to pop into store and see what they say. Im just worried that if i do get a replacement it will have gap and power button problem reported by other users.
no issues at all, oldham
OK, decided to stay with three but they have promised me to replace the handset. So nice of them. I can only do this Monday as I dont have all of the paperwork with me.
I will keep you guys updated with how my new phone gets on.