So my only complaint so far is the screen sensativity.
I know this doesnt use a capacitive screen, so it needs physical pressure, but it seems to me the glass on the top of the screen makes it need alot more pressure than i'm used to. The middle of the screen seems to be more sensative, and the outside less sensative.
You can test this by putting your finger down on HOME in touchflo, then scrolling to programs and back again. If you pres hard, it will go back and forth. If you use less pressure at home and programs it will load the programs or home screen, as if you released your finger.
So i know there's two reg keys for this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel
By doing a screen slignment and pressing hard with the stylus i get a lower value here, and by pressing lightly i get a higher value here.
So high value = detects lighter press, low value - needs harder press
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingurepressure
This i'm confused about. I tried setting it to 0, 2, 14, 200, 255, 600, and there's not noticable difference as far as i can see.
Is there some sort of program that can read the the pressure from the screen and display it? This would help make the tests alot more scientific!
Someone posted this tip in the tips and tweaks thread above...maybe useful to you??
One tip for changing the sensitivity if you don't want to mess around in the registry:
- run the Align Screen setting (under Settings/System/ Screen)
- when you press on the 'targets' with the stylus, use VERY light pressure...just enough that the tap is accepted
- I usually tap a few times on each target, starting too lightly, and then gradually increasing the pressure until the tap is taken
- do this for each of the 5 targets
I found this seems to make the Diamond calibrate a higher sensitivity for its touch-screen, so finger touches can be much lighter.
This is probably a safer way to change the sensitivity, as you don't risk putting an invalid number into the registry.
Thanks, i already tried that.
Can someone tell me their value for this key?
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingurepressure
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Spawn12 said:
Someone posted this tip in the tips and tweaks thread above...maybe useful to you??
One tip for changing the sensitivity if you don't want to mess around in the registry:
- run the Align Screen setting (under Settings/System/ Screen)
- when you press on the 'targets' with the stylus, use VERY light pressure...just enough that the tap is accepted
- I usually tap a few times on each target, starting too lightly, and then gradually increasing the pressure until the tap is taken
- do this for each of the 5 targets
I found this seems to make the Diamond calibrate a higher sensitivity for its touch-screen, so finger touches can be much lighter.
This is probably a safer way to change the sensitivity, as you don't risk putting an invalid number into the registry.
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Tried that, and its really works. Thank a lots.
someone1234 said:
Thanks, i already tried that.
Can someone tell me their value for this key?
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingurepressure
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the value is 19 in uk device rom.
vijayvasa said:
the value is 19 in uk device rom.
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19 decimal?
I've just about had enough of this touchflo.. pretty but soooo anoying to use
Today on about 3 ocasions i was navigating through it and got a call.. the lights on the touch wheel were flashing and it was playing the ringtone, but the whole phone was frozen for about 4 seconds. Eventually the call popped up and i was able to answer!
I think i'm going to diable it and do my best to make the rest pretty.
You just have to be patient...the roms are not mature yet...
In 3 months you'll see that Diamond will be the best phone out there
I also am trying to find out the best way to configure the finger sensitivity.
HastaSSSS
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In 3 months you'll see that Diamond will be the best phone out there
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yeah but 3 months is a long time... i have to do something to stop myself smashing the phone on the floor on frustration!
for now i'm going to disable touch flow, and i'll come back to it when a new rom comes out.
Have you tried the new rom 1.37.XXX ?
Bye
I have a UK diamond.. so it came with 1.37.405.1
I've just done the "light tap" trick, and now it's perfect...
Could it be that you have a defective device?
Bye
Its better with that 'trick' but still anoying. I have a feeling i'm just too used to a capacitive screen.
The wierd thing is with the light tap the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel ends up back to 30 to 50 decimal.
i only bought it today yet im seriously thinking of taking it back. The iPhone is just the better product, and always will be, unless Microsoft and the software developers get as passionate as those at apple.
Its Laggy
Its un-intuative
The touch screen isnt as sensitive as it should be. (why are they still using resistive touchscreens)
And the opera browser isnt all that either, it doesnt redraw quick enough for the full page display thing to really be all that impressive on zoom in/out and leaves chessboard squared at it struggles and chuggs to redraw.. . .not great, not when the comptetition is as good as it is. . . . .im thinking 3G Iphone, ****ty camera or not.
Loose the 6.1 and stop trying to polish that turd with TouchFlo's. Yeah good effort, but it just aint good enough
J
WM is just a huge resource hog. The touchflo is slow because its a plugin for the today screen, which then calls on windows API's to draw onto the screen.
Its such a long long way round to get to the hardware that its just slow no matter how well u code.
I just hope someone ports android to the diamond, because the hardware is amazing, the OS is a pile of ****!
BTW they use resistive touchscreens to have increased touch resolution. Also a stylus wouldnt work with a capacitive screen.
I prefer to work with resistive LCD than capacitive...
The capacitive have better sensibility, but are less precise...
Although the Diamond LCD is not as sensitive as a capacitive, it's sensitive enough to work well with the fingers...
It's just a matter of tweaking.
HastaSSSS
Resistive screens use a grid of conductive material, sandwitched between the glass and a conductive layer. They alternatly pass an electrical current on each line of the grid along the x and y axis. When you press the screen you touch this grid onto the conductive layer and the current passes through it, which is detected. You can make resistive screen that have a very high resolution of detection, and the resolution is always what you design it to be.
Resistive screens are pressure sensative, and by design can't handle multi-touch.
Capacitive screens use glass coated with a conductive coating. The edges of the screen are connected to conducters. Each conducter has a different frequency oscilator connected.
The capacitance of a human finger changes the impedance of the screen, and so changes the frequency of the oscillator circuit. This gets converted to distance from each oscillator and so a co-ordinate.
The resolution is limited by how acuratly you can detect changes.
Typically in electronics very small changes are hard to measure because they are indistiguishable from noise.
Capacitive screens can handle multi-touch, but the resolution of each touch is decreased in that case.
Capacitive screen resolution is not absolute and can change with increased noise in the system, or by multiple capapcitive effects on the screen - like multiple touches.
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This is something i noticed with my device, the screen protector iv had it on ever since i got my mda vario III, today i removed it cose there was dust collecting at the edges of the screen where it couldn't reach as its smaller than the screen then i notice the device was performing alot faster to make sure i wasn't just seeing things i tried playing a game of FPSEce before all were really slow average 10fps when actually playing now i get it around 20fps the game was actually playable not perfectly of course but still alot better. Again this is a possible effect of the lack of drivers if we get screen protector companies on your side who knows i mean who would buy one if it slowed down their ppc which would lower their business.
Lol , the only conclusion i can give you is that your screen protector was actually continuously pushing the touch screen somewhere.
Resulting in the ever lasting htc touchscreen driver bug eating cpu cycles.
You can always check this with an app that shows cpu usage.
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Lol , the only conclusion i can give you is that your screen protector was actually continuously pushing the touch screen somewhere.
Resulting in the ever lasting htc touchscreen driver bug eating cpu cycles.
You can always check this with an app that shows cpu usage.
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Batterystatus used to show it as low
The screenprotector does not weigh enough to be able to create a force large enough to activate the screen.
Here is a different theory: the screen protector does not let heat to diffuse through the screen, outside. Hence, the device become warmer, and the CPU throttle down...
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The screenprotector does not weigh enough to be able to create a force large enough to activate the screen.
Here is a different theory: the screen protector does not let heat to diffuse through the screen, outside. Hence, the device become warmer, and the CPU throttle down...
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It does if it goes under an edge... my touch stopped working, cause it got slipped under the edge and therefore was exerting force on the screen.
this is impossible because our screens are only single touch, if it was always being pressed then that means the press from out finger or stylus wouldnt work or it wouldnt press most of the time. you would find it very messed up. havnt u ever tried pressing in 2 places on the screen with a paint program or drawing just for fun?
i could see the screen protector "pressing" on the screen if it was stretched or shrunken.
however, have you ever taken a ball point pen and tried to write on a stack of papers? you eneded up with a clear "dent" on the second page, but a barely visible "dent on the third. the screen protectors make the screen less sensitive because it's just another layer. try doubling the sensitivity in your registry from 7000 to 14000 and see if it helps a little. (or the oil from your skin will eventualy collect enough dust, that if you do any heavy literary work on your PPC; you will surely wear out your screen)
I have a couple of light scratches on my screen from drawing; so i prefer the screen is less exact, but protected.
(keep in mind you create friction when you run plastic on plastic; and friction creates heat, brazing the tip of your stilus, ocasionaly making it sharper than it should be.)
I suppose thats how I see it.
Hey everybody. I've been using my Xperia for about 2 months now. However, while messing around with it the other day, I realized that it's kind of shaky. For example, if i "press" against the silver finish all the way to the right of the screen, the top part of the phone shakes a little (like it moves kind of inward). Also, when I press the bottom right soft key, the same thing happens. It shakes a little, and it's not too big of a deal but it's annoying.
Another thing is that the keyboard also slides out very easily. Like way too easily. While using the touchflo 3d with one finger (sliding to the right), for instance, unless my finger is completely dry and moving on the screen very smoothly, the screen moves to the right slightly (the way the keyboard opens).
Also, when the keyboard is out, if i "press" towards the top part of the screen, it also shakes. It feels kind of loose.
I just wanted to know, is this normal? If not, what should I do, as I bought this phone from ebay.
Other than this problem, I love my Xperia. It's very functional and like a mini PC. If it wasn't for this place, though, I think I would have probably been VERY, VERY dissatisfied with my Xperia (with the stock rom).
Thanks in advance. Any help would be appreciated.
Edit: My phone is a silver, Xperia X1i model.
I don't think that's normal. Do you tend to slide out your keyboard a lot? Have you noticed any cracks near the stylus btw?
Holy-!
How much force are you using on the screen?! My slider is exceedingly solid. Absolutely no give, and even if I use TF3D it doesn't move.
rickysio said:
Holy-!
How much force are you using on the screen?! My slider is exceedingly solid. Absolutely no give, and even if I use TF3D it doesn't move.
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I think that's out of normal
My Black X1 has about 1mm play, on the left side. On the right side it is less, but it can be felt, exactly as you mention.
As for opening, I have no problem with that, it gives just reasonable resistance.
i try to peat as least pressure as possible while using tf3d. i also dont slide out my keyboard THAT much. and no, no cracks near stylues.
apparently, this is not normal. any advice?
redo the screen calibration, now applying as LITTLE force as you can to get the press registered, and try again. Xperia has some sort of vario force meter on the touchscreen - the more force you use during calibration, the more force you need during normal usage.
another issue i have with my phone (not hardware related) is the fact that when i use high quality on my youtube app, watching the video is sooooooo laggy. is there any fix for this
It's a limitation of the current app, most likely it's incapable of taking advantage of the native hardware decoding the MSM7200/7201/7200A/whatever chipset offers.
Is there a setting in Andorid to make the touch pressure more sensitive. I recall do registry edits in WinMo that accomplished this. The screen in Android just seem to require more pressure then what I remember having WinMo set to.
It also could be that I'm just use to capacitive screens.
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gedster314 said:
Is there a setting in Andorid to make the touch pressure more sensitive. I recall do registry edits in WinMo that accomplished this. The screen in Android just seem to require more pressure then what I remember having WinMo set to.
It also could be that I'm just use to capacitive screens.
Thanks
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ADB/Terminal:
echo "3072" > /sys/module/tsc2003/parameters/sensitivity
I've tried it and I could mess it up enough for it to noticeably lower sensitivity but I could never tell if it actually increased it (but it probably did).
Edit: One thing I noticed is that I could never get the settings to stick beyond a reboot.
lightly touching during screen calibration seems to work.
I was having a similar issue with "touching like you mean it" to get things to work. I tried re-running the calibration tool and pressing with the stylus as light as i could and still get a reading. its not like my incredible, but it is silky smooth.
Has anyone tried using a stylus with their NC? - any success? I tried using my wife's Pogo stylus with not-so-good results. It's like it's drawing an inconsistently dashed line or a VERY crooked line at best. I've tried holding the stylus in several ways (ie. angle, straight up/dn, pressing harder and lighter, etc.) all with the same or very similar results. Everything is very smooth when using my finger, of course. I don't intend on using the stylus for really anything beyond SketchBookMobile.
I've also ordered a Dagi P005 in hopes of better results. It should be here in the next few days.
Thanks, in advance.
Just noticed I should have posted this in the "Accessories" section. You have my apologies.
I don't think the screen has enough input resolution to use a stylus effectively. If you look at the screen from an angle in light, you'll see little 2-3 cm squares. I think the issue is that the Nook doesn't know precisely where the pointer is using such a small stylus and such an imprecise capacitive layer.
LCDDensity App fixes problems with screen not sensative enough
silivrenion said:
I don't think the screen has enough input resolution to use a stylus effectively. If you look at the screen from an angle in light, you'll see little 2-3 cm squares. I think the issue is that the Nook doesn't know precisely where the pointer is using such a small stylus and such an imprecise capacitive layer.
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There's a free app in the marketplace called "LCDDensity" for Root users. It allows you to change the value of the default LCD Density of the Nook Color display. The default is 160ish. If you change the number higher, everything appears larger on the screen. That includes icons, fonts,...everything.
I've noticed that when I changed my LCD density up to 200, the problems with the screen not being very sensitive in the corners and edges went away. I guess now that everything is larger, it presents a bigger target for my fingers, and everything is working great now. Also fixed problem with text just being to small for my eyes on some apps.
Give it a try, it may make the stylus work a little bit better.
I'm a little disappointed to read that as I was considering getting a stylus. Maybe your screen needs recalibration? Or maybe changing the density will help. If you have better results, please post back.
Why does the stylus need any pressure at all to register a click? Why doesn't it work by just touching the screen?
https://www.sammobile.com/2018/09/03/galaxy-note-9-touch-sensitivity-setting-adjustment
mraeryceos said:
Why does the stylus need any pressure at all to register a click? Why doesn't it work by just touching the screen?
https://www.sammobile.com/2018/09/03/galaxy-note-9-touch-sensitivity-setting-adjustment
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If you apply pressure your pen or marker or whatever becomes wider just as it would in real life. If you only touch the screen it's a thin line.
Kudos if you are an artist. I just want a pointing device, and one that "clicks" on objects. It's hard enough having to hold my phone in the air, and carefully aim the stylus. because the user interface is no longer gingerbread and you have desktop like menus without an actual desktop operating system. Retardedness prevailed as Android felt pressured to mimic iOS.
Having to click hard slows me down, or makes me slide off target. I can touch the screen with precision, but if I have to apply pressure the precision is lost. So, I don't want this nifty feature of ooh ahh, it works as well as the best stylus for an artist. I could care less. In fact, I hate this nifty feature and want to turn it off.
Can you tell I'm grumpy?