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There is something about me that doesn't like using Internet Explorer. On my phone (Sony Ericsson K850i) I use the Opera Mini 4 Beta browser and love the way that it renders sites and you can zoom in and out etc...
I installed Opera Mobile on my HTC hoping that it would be exactly the same as mini but I was very disappointed Not only does it not have the text for the soft keys but it doesn't accept touch screen inputs for pressing links and text boxes. Also you don't have the zoom in/out function so you have to see a fully rendered screen or and "everything on one column" rendering that cripples the content.
Is there a decent browser for Windows Mobile? What I am looking for is something that works exactly like Opera Mini but with more compatibility with flash etc...
Any ideas?
At the least I would like to be able to install Opera mini but it comes as a .jad file (Java Midlet?). Is there any way of installing these as my Kaiser doesn't know what to do with the file atm.
Thanks for any help
Oliver
There must be someone out there who uses a browser that they're happy with?
Is there a version of Opera that works with the touch screen?
Thanks
You don't have Java on your phone? Opera mini is free and it is a Java Midlet so you could try and see how you like it without spending any money. There is another free browser that I have called Minimo.
LINK to direct CAB download-- http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It isint the perfect browser either but it does alot of what Opera does and lets you set it with preferences too. Give it a shot and see what you think. Don't like it just remove. I will look on my phone to see if I can extract the Java .exe for you.
I use netfront 3.3 its got better functions than PIE and its back and forward functions using your D-pad is very usefull. as for opera if you want it to scroll like opera mini just enable touch and grab on opera v8.65. it will select links as opera mini does it just wont zoom in like opera mini
Ceck out the articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers
picsel browseris my fav. look around enough and you'll find it
Thanks for the replies!
I'll definitely have a look round for the browsers you mentioned.
I would much appreciate it if you could provide a Java app to enable Java on my phone too
BTW, I'm using Schap's latest ROM if that helps.
Im a bit confused here about the op. Am I the only person that has a copy of Opera Mobile that does everything that the op said it doesn,t do? Which version of Opera mobile did you try? I use O.M on my kaiser and everything you said it doesnt do, mine does.. Ive got touchscreen interactivity aswell as touch scrolling, i can zoom in and out, 3 can resize the screen format to desk top,just fit and one column. Im runing Opera mobile 8.65 for Windows Mobile Pocket PC. By anychance did you accidentily download the smartphone version?
As above - op must have downloaded opera instead of opera-mini...
I'm posting using o-m and must say it's one of the best if not best browser for the wm platform
WOW!
Just installed Picsel and I love it.
The GUI is a bit dodgy but that's cos it's designed for the clie but I love everything else.
Thanks
(Bit of an effort to find a download though)
Ah, I downloaded the Smartphone version. That's prob why I don't have the touch screen thingy.
BTW Subliminal, there is a difference between Opera Mini and Opera Mobile. Opera Mini is what I have on my Sony Ericsson k850i and I would have thought that Opera Mobile worked similarly. It does all the same things but not as smoothly as Opera Mini.
Opera Mini is for Java based phone apps. Opera Mobile is for WM platform.
Opera Mobile has more functions (I think?)
but one main difference is that Opera Mini is free whereas opera mobile isn't.
A direct shortcut can be created to launch opera mini without the need to load the java midlet first. A quick hex edit can skip the connection permissions and another quick tinker can allow direct links from emails to open in opera mini. Sounds more work than it is.
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
I've just downloaded opera mini 4 and have installed it onto my phone.
I have one querey.......
when I was instaling it and when I first used it, it say
this program is connecting to .......port 1080...... requires airtime..... you maybe chaged.....
does this mean my phone isn't using the wifi connection when im running opera mini 4?
picsel browser???
here is the link for picselbrowser i just keep on posting it and be quick if you want it
posted it at rapidshare 4 times allready and it keeps getting removed somehow lol
http://rapidshare.com/files/73569495/Picsel_Browser.cab.html
dolbe said:
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
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I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
MonteCristoffOn said:
I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
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It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
dolbe said:
It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
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Mmmm... don't reach the solution ;-( , even after modifying the browser settings. Always the same message...
"Cannot load page. Check that you are properly connected to the network. Type : TCP connect"
dolbe, can you give me your settings for this great browser ?
MS DeepFish is the best browser I've seen yet. It's in Beta for now though and has limitations. It's similar to Iphone's Safari - which is great.
Opera Mobile 9 will support zooming, just like Opera Mini. I asked Opera for a release date, but they won't say anything. It's supposed to be released "soon".
Enjoy!!
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4Shared Mirror
Mirror for those who hate megaupload
http://www.4shared.com/account/file/53409527/64f2aeda/Operav95QVGABuild1409WWE.html
edit: nice version thank you sir
edit2: I agree with everything you state in post 3.
ok, this one definitely feels good! quicker, feels more stable with certain websites that weren't as stable with the previous builds, and the animations seems much smoother. I still couldnt get f7 to work properly with youtube websites(kept freezing) But overall it seems of an upgrade!
I'm having the same issue I had with the last version posted and that is Opera will hang at the launch / splash screen and I can not kill the processes either, however I can still use the phone and launch other apps, but the splash screen stays on top. I have to soft reset to get back to normal.
Running L26 V8
zPacKRat said:
I'm having the same issue I had with the last version posted and that is Opera will hang at the launch / splash screen and I can not kill the processes either, however I can still use the phone and launch other apps, but the splash screen stays on top. I have to soft reset to get back to normal.
Running L26 V8
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its either the rom your using or its conflicting with another software.
So far this version seems like a definite improvement - the biggest being that I can now use the 'automatic full screen' option without it changing to full screen half way through typing an address on my Kaiser keyboard!
Haven't come across any bugs as yet.
initial testing shows:
- overall speed/feel increase
- addressbar doesn't auto-hide when typing w/ hardkeys in auto-minimize mode
bug: after closing out of opera in landscape mode, left my tilt in left-handed landscape mode. had to go to settings->system->display to bring it back into portrait mode.
Testing on June 29 ryncppr v6, 1.58.25.17 radio, hardspl 3.56
Bug: When using the hardware keyboard to fill in fields on a webpage, the field that is being typed in sometimes looses focus after each letter is selected on the keyboard. If the software keyboard is used, the problem does not occur.
With 8.65, i could copy the opera6 adr file that i have saved on my sd card and paste it into the opera folder to import my bookmarks after flashing, etc. This doesn't seem to work with opera 9. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Build 1184 vs 1409
In Build 1184 when I pressed an internet link in an email Opera 9.5 would load the page not PIE. With build 140p, PIE loads the page and not Opera Mobile. I have looked in the settings etc and can not find a way to make Opera Mobile my "default browser" Is this possible? If so how?
i'm still getting the missing address bar when typing on the kaiser keyboard. im still using wm6. anyone else still has the problem?
sirccchar said:
i'm still getting the missing address bar when typing on the kaiser keyboard. im still using wm6. anyone else still has the problem?
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I am using 6.1 and not having this problem
atsitalian said:
I am using 6.1 and not having this problem
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is anyone still using wm6 and having the same problem or is it just me?
I am using the Titan with windows mobile six and am also having this problem with opera mobile 9.5. Anybody with a fixed build?
Yup - my vario III on standard rom does this - I can only type one letter in from the keyboard before the focus is lost. Also it's not running as the default browser and there is no option to set this :-(
Looks lovely though....
Default Browser key:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shell/Rai/: DEFBROWSER/1
Note: the above key is "colon and capital 'D' together" but the board makes it into a grin icon. lol
by default, it should be ":MSPIE", you can change it to the location of OperaL.exe, generally "\windows\operal.exe"
Bug: RSSHub is no longer able to open a link, it gives the error "file http://.... cannot be opened"
Fix: RSSHub seems to be connected to pocket ie. you will need to reset all registry references back to pocket ie and THEN apply the default browser registry hack. ( soft reset after all that )
pm1694 said:
With 8.65, i could copy the opera6 adr file that i have saved on my sd card and paste it into the opera folder to import my bookmarks after flashing, etc. This doesn't seem to work with opera 9. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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This is working on my and always has with every version of Opera 9.x that I have used.
ycavan said:
Default Browser key:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shell/Rai/: DEFBROWSER/1
Note: the above key is "colon and capital 'D' together" but the board makes it into a grin icon. lol
by default, it should be ":MSPIE", you can change it to the location of OperaL.exe, generally "/windows/operal.exe"
Bug: RSSHub is no longer able to open a link, it gives the error "file http://.... cannot be opened"
any clues on the above bugs, guys?
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Registry change worked like a champ. Opera Build 1409 now opens when I select a link in an email. Thanks a Bunch!!! Sorry I can't help with the RSSHub issue.
Dissapearing Address Bar
I am using WM 6.1 (one of Duttys hybrid ROMs) and still ahve the issue with the sddress bar dissapearing before I am finished typing.
I still believe it may be related to Opera not recognizing the pull out (hard) keyboard, or perhaps it is related to the Diamond XT9 keyboard in my ROM....
Any info. appreciated!
Regards,
Michael
For SD version. Check my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
i know alot of people here do not read the development and hacking section but this thread is getting alot of attention
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423860
I have installed the CAB without uninstalling flashlite 2.1 and it is working pretty good. my only gripe is everytime i click on a flash activeX componant the virtual keyboard pops up
using the latest opera build and running TLR3 rom.
Anyone else given it a go on the diamond?
feedback appreciated
Yep, youtube works but its a shame that BBC iPlayer doesnt
are you getting the annoying virtual keyboard keep popping up when tring to use controls in a flash object?
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are you getting the annoying virtual keyboard keep popping up when tring to use controls in a flash object?
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unfortunately yes. <--- using flash 7
doesn't work for me i installed flash 3.1 lite, and rest the device, then if i have the 'enable plug-ins' box ticked in advanced settings the browser just crashes when ever i load up a page with flash like youtube. and if i have plug-ins disabled well then flash just doesn't work...
i am using TLR3 and have opera build 1522.
any ideas...
newer version of opera
im using opera 9.5 build 1938
isn't that what the nullkb cab in the first post of the orginal thread for? so that the keyboard doesn't pop up...
rumpleforeskin said:
i know alot of people here do not read the development and hacking section but this thread is getting alot of attention
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423860
I have installed the CAB without uninstalling flashlite 2.1 and it is working pretty good. my only gripe is everytime i click on a flash activeX componant the virtual keyboard pops up
using the latest opera build and running TLR3 rom.
Anyone else given it a go on the diamond?
feedback appreciated
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Try to find 'sipupdisable.cab. #2 in the following thread.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2473168
Edit:
Tried it on Diamond100 with swiftblade6.0 and Opera Browser 9.5 Build 1938. No effect what so ever. I installed the flash on my 4Gb -memory. Any advice how you got it working? [ note no flash was on my device]
I installed it to my device memory to get it working. I could not get nullkeyboard to work though
well, it works on my vogue, really buggy, however its better than the flash support we had b4.
best view (with least buginess) is in opera (uncheck mobile view) as it seems to not have too much of a problem with playing flash videos when they are a fairly small size, but when you zoom in, in or around the flash video, thats when you'll have some issues
many thanks to rumpleforeskin
I have tried to install My_Flash3_1 and Dvha79AdobeFlash3.1 plugin. but it does not work!
With Opera 9.5 Build 1938 the flash site work partially, for some sites, we can see only the top of the page. Completely useless for Flash sites.
For example, you can not play online at www.loterie.ch. He said that flash is not installed !
HTC Diamond
ROM Bepe 0.99d
works on my touch diamond. I have the same problem with the keyboard popping up but better than a site not working. There are some flash sites that dont work but I think that is because the site checks for a particular version of flash (eg version7) and simply does not send the flash content if it cant find it.
Youtube works really well.
today i read a news about a new upcoming browser named skyfire.
and what i am asking me: when the open beta comes to my country and i install it on my diamond... can i change the default browser für touchflo3d?
here is a version i tried using. only half the screen is skyfire and the other half is today screen. check it out. maybe it works for you.
Skyfire is a pretty good web browser for mobile phones. It was apparently found to be the fastest - mostly because it renders the pages from a central server.
I believe you have to register with them to fully use the software (you need a Skyfire account).
Also, there is a new release, but it still does not support VGA devices yet.
- Keirmeister
yes but can i change the default browser in touch flo 3d?
maybe in some time no one wants to use opera and all want to use skyfire.
seemts that its just a simple shortcut to change.
Skyfire is not compatible to VGA right now.
I tried out Skyfire on my diamond and there is a workaround the half screen problem. Other than the fact that flash works, i don't think it is better than Opera 9.5 at least not until a VGA version comes out.
I uninstalled Skyfire and now I have the problem where PIE is now my default browser instead of Opera. Whenever I tap on a link on my rss reader or email, it goes to PIE by default. Is there a way to change my default browser back to opera?
Just Re-run the WM_6_HTC_PPC_Opera9.cab in your windows directory, and it will re-install Opera and fix the link issues. Your bookmarks, history and other browsing data will not be harmed.
Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.
Hi,
Installed on my MDA Compact and it works well. However, it won't connect using wifi.
Any solutions?
Regards
raines43 said:
Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.
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I just downloaded it too and mananged to get a video playing from the iPlayer but I don't get any sound. Did you have any issues with sound at all?
(I'm on Dutty's V3.2 ROM)
To answer another question the latest version works on VGA but allegedly not on WVGA so Touch HD users may be disappointed. You can download it here http://get.skyfire.com/ and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.
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and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.
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Maybe... but uninstalling it even when it's not default resets your default browser to PIE. Which sucks.
i cannot download it,has anybody have vga cab?
Just open http://get.skyfire.com/ in your mobile browser, you'll get to download the cab directly from the phone!
i have opened it 100 times but i cant download,it always get me back to getskyfire.com.
i am not in usa,i am in europe,can somebody please post/upload cab???
Yes, here u go....
man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?
new beta version Skyfire
Code:
[URL="http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html"]http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html[/URL]
intel286 said:
man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?
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This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.
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This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.
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can i somehow change thiis?
or can i get flash in opera?
You can get flash in opera mobile
Check the developments and hacking forum on XDA, it's near the top.
Look for Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 and a compatible Opera build =]
just went over to the opera ftp site and found at the very bottom a link to the 9.7 beta.
here is a direct link to the ftp for anyone that wants it.
Directory:
ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/
here is the actual CAB file:
ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/operabrowser_wm_97b1.cab
im also uploading this to rapidshare right now incase they decide to take the link down
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here are the rapidshare links (note: these are un-modified files, they are the exact same files you get directly from their FTP site, simply mirrors of the originals)
Opera Mobile 9.7 -http://rapidshare.com/files/242130821/operabrowser_wm_97b1.cab
Opera Widet Manager 9.7 - http://rapidshare.com/files/242131406/operawidgetman_wm_97b1.cab
woohaaa! finally!
It is amazingly fast and usable. Finally, mobile internet feels like real internet.
how import the favourites from 9.5 version?
thanks
is it able to load all flash stuffs in any pages?
r6arrow said:
how import the favourites from 9.5 version?
thanks
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copy opera6.adr to new profile folder.
owilsky said:
copy opera6.adr to new profile folder.
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G R E A T
It worked perfectly.
I found that file in device\windows\opera9\ folder.
Is there a particular way to install this bad boy? If I just hit install will it break TF3D?
Zoom Zoom
Installed this on shep's latest rom and it flys
Removed previous version via add remove programs and installed the cab
and this opera is really a turbo make that twin turbo's
yeah it looks really nice and all but don.t forget it.s just the first beta. if u look more closely you can see that most of the plugins are disabled - falsh etc.(and opera turbo is in there just for the preview - very unstable and buggy and probably not ready yet).
still, it looks and feels really nice so i.m gonna be really interested in the final release. till then i.m on skyfire - still unbeatable in mobile browsing experience
it sux that there is no flash i guess i will be using skyfire a little longer
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Thank you for this I have been looking to find that out as well.
The zooming feature on my htc touch pro doesn't seem to work.
I'm not talking about the zooming feature of clicking on the screen but the scroll on my htc touch pro itself.
Is there anyway to make this work? ,
Can't seem to find any settings on advanced.
Yeah I'd like to know this as well. That zooming feature is the ONLY reason I use Opera Mobile over Iris and Skyfire.
Do you know how to download files from sites like http://gentoo.arcticnetwork.ca/app-doc/NaturalDocs/ ?
There's no choice to open or save file like in PC browsers... I know that rar files can be saved in such way, but no such files like *.cab.
You can't download files unless turbo is disabled. I know, hassle.
Edit: Also, just press your finger over the link for a couple seconds then go to save.
Well.. I used Advanced Config. Went to more settings and went to smart touch. I then added Opera Mobile to the list and was excited because I thought it would use the zoom bar to zoom!
....
Epic fail. It just scrolls through the links. -_-
Opera 9.7 on turbo mode browsing Facebook
Have you guys tried Facebook with Opera 9.7 on turbo mode?
When I try it, on the home screen of Fbook, I cannot click anything except stuff like Home, Profile, Friends, Inbox (the top buttons).
Everything else just reloads the home page.
Very similar to Opera mini in that respect.
Is there a trick about this or something.
mines currently going to mobile pages for things such as amazon and collegehumor.com what was the setting to fix it?
and no its not the simple one that is mobile page view that is unchecked
it.s still a beta guys, very buggy especially with opera turbo activated (i think the bug list is posted on their website) final release will have flash and zooming options activated