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Touch screen web browser

There is something about me that doesn't like using Internet Explorer. On my phone (Sony Ericsson K850i) I use the Opera Mini 4 Beta browser and love the way that it renders sites and you can zoom in and out etc...
I installed Opera Mobile on my HTC hoping that it would be exactly the same as mini but I was very disappointed Not only does it not have the text for the soft keys but it doesn't accept touch screen inputs for pressing links and text boxes. Also you don't have the zoom in/out function so you have to see a fully rendered screen or and "everything on one column" rendering that cripples the content.
Is there a decent browser for Windows Mobile? What I am looking for is something that works exactly like Opera Mini but with more compatibility with flash etc...
Any ideas?
At the least I would like to be able to install Opera mini but it comes as a .jad file (Java Midlet?). Is there any way of installing these as my Kaiser doesn't know what to do with the file atm.
Thanks for any help
Oliver

There must be someone out there who uses a browser that they're happy with?
Is there a version of Opera that works with the touch screen?
Thanks

You don't have Java on your phone? Opera mini is free and it is a Java Midlet so you could try and see how you like it without spending any money. There is another free browser that I have called Minimo.
LINK to direct CAB download-- http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It isint the perfect browser either but it does alot of what Opera does and lets you set it with preferences too. Give it a shot and see what you think. Don't like it just remove. I will look on my phone to see if I can extract the Java .exe for you.

I use netfront 3.3 its got better functions than PIE and its back and forward functions using your D-pad is very usefull. as for opera if you want it to scroll like opera mini just enable touch and grab on opera v8.65. it will select links as opera mini does it just wont zoom in like opera mini

Ceck out the articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers

picsel browseris my fav. look around enough and you'll find it

Thanks for the replies!
I'll definitely have a look round for the browsers you mentioned.
I would much appreciate it if you could provide a Java app to enable Java on my phone too
BTW, I'm using Schap's latest ROM if that helps.

Im a bit confused here about the op. Am I the only person that has a copy of Opera Mobile that does everything that the op said it doesn,t do? Which version of Opera mobile did you try? I use O.M on my kaiser and everything you said it doesnt do, mine does.. Ive got touchscreen interactivity aswell as touch scrolling, i can zoom in and out, 3 can resize the screen format to desk top,just fit and one column. Im runing Opera mobile 8.65 for Windows Mobile Pocket PC. By anychance did you accidentily download the smartphone version?

As above - op must have downloaded opera instead of opera-mini...
I'm posting using o-m and must say it's one of the best if not best browser for the wm platform

WOW!
Just installed Picsel and I love it.
The GUI is a bit dodgy but that's cos it's designed for the clie but I love everything else.
Thanks
(Bit of an effort to find a download though)

Ah, I downloaded the Smartphone version. That's prob why I don't have the touch screen thingy.
BTW Subliminal, there is a difference between Opera Mini and Opera Mobile. Opera Mini is what I have on my Sony Ericsson k850i and I would have thought that Opera Mobile worked similarly. It does all the same things but not as smoothly as Opera Mini.
Opera Mini is for Java based phone apps. Opera Mobile is for WM platform.

Opera Mobile has more functions (I think?)
but one main difference is that Opera Mini is free whereas opera mobile isn't.
A direct shortcut can be created to launch opera mini without the need to load the java midlet first. A quick hex edit can skip the connection permissions and another quick tinker can allow direct links from emails to open in opera mini. Sounds more work than it is.

Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming

I've just downloaded opera mini 4 and have installed it onto my phone.
I have one querey.......
when I was instaling it and when I first used it, it say
this program is connecting to .......port 1080...... requires airtime..... you maybe chaged.....
does this mean my phone isn't using the wifi connection when im running opera mini 4?

picsel browser???
here is the link for picselbrowser i just keep on posting it and be quick if you want it
posted it at rapidshare 4 times allready and it keeps getting removed somehow lol
http://rapidshare.com/files/73569495/Picsel_Browser.cab.html

dolbe said:
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
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I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(

MonteCristoffOn said:
I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
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It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.

dolbe said:
It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
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Mmmm... don't reach the solution ;-( , even after modifying the browser settings. Always the same message...
"Cannot load page. Check that you are properly connected to the network. Type : TCP connect"
dolbe, can you give me your settings for this great browser ?

MS DeepFish is the best browser I've seen yet. It's in Beta for now though and has limitations. It's similar to Iphone's Safari - which is great.

Opera Mobile 9 will support zooming, just like Opera Mini. I asked Opera for a release date, but they won't say anything. It's supposed to be released "soon".

Opera Mobile 9.5 and Google Reader (iPhone page)

I am currently running Opera Mobile 9.5 build 1184 QVGA. Whenever I go to www.google.com/reader/i I just get a blank page.
I had a version of Opera Mobile 9.5 previously that let the iPhone google reader page work but I don't know which version it was.
I assume some settings would allow the page to render but I'm not sure which ones. Anyone have luck with this?
FIXED: Go to opera:config and set your User Agent to IE. This now works for me without changing roms.

Also running build 1184 and it's working for me. I am running L26's V8 light rom.
PM

Hmmm, that's odd. Have you made any customizations to the settings? I'm just running a stock install of 9.5.
Rom is in my sig.

Ok, so if I set it to Mobile View in the Display Settings it displays some of the header and footer of the iphone google reader page but many things are out of line and I don't get any of the stories.
Once back in non-mobile mode I still get the blank white page.

Try installing the version of java in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2313736&postcount=305 Do a soft reset after and see if that gets it running right for you. I had some opera mini problems until I did just that.

Same here for Gmail page on google Using Duttys v2
I had just installed same version of opera and have same results you have
using Duttys april 29 v2 cube
laakness said:
I am currently running Opera Mobile 9.5 build 1184 QVGA. Whenever I go to www.google.com/reader/i I just get a blank page.
I had a version of Opera Mobile 9.5 previously that let the iPhone google reader page work but I don't know which version it was.
I assume some settings would allow the page to render but I'm not sure which ones. Anyone have luck with this?
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johnypcguru said:
Try installing the version of java in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2313736&postcount=305 Do a soft reset after and see if that gets it running right for you. I had some opera mini problems until I did just that.
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The issue is with Opera Mobile 9.5 not Opera Mini. I do use Opera Mini as well but have no problems. Thanks anyway.
It's a shame because this ROM is so good I don't want to switch just for a nice GReader page I am now remembering that when this did work for me I was on CUSTEL 2.1 WM6 rom.

Fixed: check first post
I fixed my issue and updated post #1

laakness said:
I fixed my issue and updated post #1
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Thanks for that.... I knew I'd find the answer with a bit of digging and reading.

RSS Hub is the nicest free RSS reader around! I used to use google reader but switched over to RSS hub, you should search for it on here and try it out. That way you don't have to switch ROM's.

opera 9.5 beta official ;) (version: 9.51b1)

Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
version: 9.51b1

brumle80 said:
Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
version: 9.51b1
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I have tried this version, I am not so happy with it. I find it rather slow and the zooming in zooming out feels tedious. I may be spoiled because I am also using an iPod Touch with the Safari Mobile browser but are there any previous builds of the Opera Mobile 9.5 browser that have faster performance than this?
I am working on a Samsung i780 so I have a lot of power behind the phone, I just don't find this version jaw-dropping.

Okay this looks great. Just tested it on the Diamond and it's fast, seems stable and fixes the "black whole problem" at least on the sites I had problems with.
One drawback: it doesn't seem to support the g-sensor out of the box. however we might be able to work around that with gsen... didn't try that though.
I guess this is a real candidate for some cooked ROMs...
Edit: This thing is REALLY fast. We might probably want to work on how to replace the original opera on a diamond with this version?
Cheers,
Alex

Will installing this overwrite the default Opera diamond browser?

You can install it on the internal storage - so your pre-installed opera should be left untouched. As for the default browser setting - I didn't check that. But you should be able to switch back if desired as well.

Okay from some testing I can report the following issues:
Does not use old Opera's bookmarks, so when overwriting old opera there's no way to sync bookmarks with Manila (some tiny application might be written to do the job however I guess)
Occasionly prevents device standby (even when manually pressing the standby button) - getting out of opera helps
At least in my setup it keeps starting itself when exited - that might however be a result of me playing around to replace original opera with new one
The most noticable bug from opera's official known-issues list is the non-working re-flow of text paragraphs. instead the paragraphs are _always_ sized to fit the zoomed-in screen
Auto-rotation is not implemented out of the box - I didn't test, yet if GSen would do the trick (for some of us disabled auto-rotation might actually be a plus ;-)
Some of these issues obviously have to be fixed for a final - but I assume they will do so until the final release.
On the bright side we have:
Definitely faster
Looks like it has lower memory consumption (not measured though) - this actually makes the auto-restart thing I experience acceptable for me - I simply keep it running in the background at the moment
The black-hole problem seems to be fixed
Once the issues have been worked out this will be a huge step forward in mobile browsing on the diamond - even compared to the current version of opera mobile!
If anyone else is testing this software I'd be happy to hear some feedback and maybe solutions found to the issues I mentioned.
Cheers,
Alex

Does it also support Flash based websites? (containing flash video's?)

i also tried to install it both on the device & internal storage, but it just won't start the new version... even when i start the program from the program list it will start the old version...
i guess the beta version wanted to prevent the resizing of the paragraph while zooming in some text pages, but i do like it coz the zooming in & out is now more precise...
anyone have any idea how to replace the old opera with this new beta...
also another problem encountered is the pop up of the input keyboard... it will automatically switch to the default windows style even if i set it to full qwerty keyboard...
i hope htc will implement it soon or opera could release the final version soon, this browser is the best so far~

Here is the Thread containing the latest Opera build, was released yesterday I think. Anyway, its miles better than this beta, go check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643

not impressed, seems much slower than what im currently using

find it in the file manager to launch it.
I find it has a keyboard issue... it keeps reverting back to small qwerty.
I uninstalled it and now my original opera takes longer to load up. (now those progress blocks have appeared?)

FH1 said:
find it in the file manager to launch it.
I find it has a keyboard issue... it keeps reverting back to small qwerty.
I uninstalled it and now my original opera takes longer to load up. (now those progress blocks have appeared?)
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i need to do the samething to launch it;
the keyboard issue is really annoying but the performance is better; i like the skin of it
i didn't have that problem... i tried installing it on internal mem & device & my diamond opera is still working

Jin187 said:
Here is the Thread containing the latest Opera build, was released yesterday I think. Anyway, its miles better than this beta, go check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
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Have to agree, build 1938 is *way* better than this one, it's a lot faster and far more stable. At least on a Samsung i780 which is what I used to test it.
I also tried it on an iMate Jasjar but the build had problems working with the qwerty keyboard -- when you try to type it will take in one character then close the SIP, so you can no longer enter any letters. Horrible bug, did not have this problem with any other build I tried so far. But it works fine, only problem is I have to use the SIP, and the point of getting a Universal is to have the QWERTY!

skyfire on diamond

today i read a news about a new upcoming browser named skyfire.
and what i am asking me: when the open beta comes to my country and i install it on my diamond... can i change the default browser für touchflo3d?

here is a version i tried using. only half the screen is skyfire and the other half is today screen. check it out. maybe it works for you.

Skyfire is a pretty good web browser for mobile phones. It was apparently found to be the fastest - mostly because it renders the pages from a central server.
I believe you have to register with them to fully use the software (you need a Skyfire account).
Also, there is a new release, but it still does not support VGA devices yet.
- Keirmeister

yes but can i change the default browser in touch flo 3d?
maybe in some time no one wants to use opera and all want to use skyfire.
seemts that its just a simple shortcut to change.

Skyfire is not compatible to VGA right now.

I tried out Skyfire on my diamond and there is a workaround the half screen problem. Other than the fact that flash works, i don't think it is better than Opera 9.5 at least not until a VGA version comes out.
I uninstalled Skyfire and now I have the problem where PIE is now my default browser instead of Opera. Whenever I tap on a link on my rss reader or email, it goes to PIE by default. Is there a way to change my default browser back to opera?

Just Re-run the WM_6_HTC_PPC_Opera9.cab in your windows directory, and it will re-install Opera and fix the link issues. Your bookmarks, history and other browsing data will not be harmed.

Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.

Hi,
Installed on my MDA Compact and it works well. However, it won't connect using wifi.
Any solutions?
Regards

raines43 said:
Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.
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I just downloaded it too and mananged to get a video playing from the iPlayer but I don't get any sound. Did you have any issues with sound at all?
(I'm on Dutty's V3.2 ROM)
To answer another question the latest version works on VGA but allegedly not on WVGA so Touch HD users may be disappointed. You can download it here http://get.skyfire.com/ and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.

andy2111 said:
and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.
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Maybe... but uninstalling it even when it's not default resets your default browser to PIE. Which sucks.

i cannot download it,has anybody have vga cab?

Just open http://get.skyfire.com/ in your mobile browser, you'll get to download the cab directly from the phone!

i have opened it 100 times but i cant download,it always get me back to getskyfire.com.
i am not in usa,i am in europe,can somebody please post/upload cab???

Yes, here u go....

man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?

new beta version Skyfire
Code:
[URL="http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html"]http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html[/URL]

intel286 said:
man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?
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This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.

intx said:
This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.
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can i somehow change thiis?
or can i get flash in opera?

You can get flash in opera mobile
Check the developments and hacking forum on XDA, it's near the top.
Look for Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 and a compatible Opera build =]

Anyone Try Out Iris Browser?

Looks pretty cool. I'm downloading now.
http://on10.net/blogs/sarahintampa/Iris-A-New-Browser-for-Windows-Mobile-Emerges-from-Beta/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpX5JZWtu-g
http://www.irisbrowser.com/download/
The Iris Browser is a new, Webkit-based web browser for Windows Mobile devices running versions 5 or 6(+). The company recently released an updated version (Iris Browser 1.1.0) which is a very different piece of software than the one that was being used by beta testers. In the latest update, the company says they’ve merged a year’s worth of WebKit development into the browser while also re-auditing all their work, addressing performance issues, and making the browser capable of viewing almost any website on the net.
Most notably to end users, the refreshed browser now provides Flash support by way of a plugin that converts the Flash Lite ActiveX control into an Iris Browser plugin. The end result is that when you browse to Flash-enabled pages, you will see a black image with a play button which you can click to optionally see the Flash content.
The new Iris browser is highly compliant, too, scoring a 100/100 on Acid3 with only a couple of minor rendering glitches. Those glitches are related to fonts, where they deliberately cut some corners for better performance. Iris is also highly compatible with iPhone websites, the company reports.
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Hey pretty good! I'm just apparently having some trouble to click on certain links that don't respond, and can't get flash videos to work, but the rest works impressively well!

Nice....
Looks Really nice,
Going to try it soon.

iris browser suck balls just do skyfire. theres no waiting list now and the new upgrades are awesome. browser includes flash content.......lemme repeat includes flash content!! lol free flowing youtube and myspace if u into that

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Looks Really nice,
Going to try it soon.
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For flash support, install the official Flash player 3.1 to your device, (not memory card), and unzip the attached file (NPFL3ppc.dll) to \Program Files\Iris Browser\Plugins Flash should now work in Iris Browser.

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iris browser suck balls just do skyfire.
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Well sorry but to me it's skyfire that "sucks balls"....
For comparable "speedy" browsing I much prefer Opera Mini, now as sometimes a "full" browser with local rendering is needed I was still looking for one and it seems Iris does the job.
And it's also supposed to supplrt flash if you read above. I didn't manage to get it wirking with those instructions though... not that I care much actually.

a little help
apparently, i am a moron. the download is not in cab format, and i do not know how to install it. i did not see any instruction on their site.

k-semler said:
For flash support, install the official Flash player 3.1 to your device, (not memory card), and unzip the attached file (NPFL3ppc.dll) to \Program Files\Iris Browser\Plugins Flash should now work in Iris Browser.
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Didn't work for me. Trying to play a video at YouTube, I get an "could not create ActiveX object" error.
Where did you get the Official Flash 3.1? I installed the redistributable developer flash from the Adobe site.

kilrah said:
Well sorry but to me it's skyfire that "sucks balls"....
For comparable "speedy" browsing I much prefer Opera Mini, now as sometimes a "full" browser with local rendering is needed I was still looking for one and it seems Iris does the job.
And it's also supposed to supplrt flash if you read above. I didn't manage to get it wirking with those instructions though... not that I care much actually.
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I'm so supprised more peeps don't use Mini as defacto browser as it's so fast, also keeps my data costs down, there is times i use fully fledged browser but Mobile does the trick.
Have found evey iris release slow to render page and then even when rendered "or so you think" you move the page down and get grey squares, just like Skyfire.
Just my opinion.

Yea for me Mini does 95% of the job, but I have a couple of sites I visit that don't appreciate the whole going through a 3rd party server thing. I ditched Mobile as the full-fledged alternative because all the versions I tried had very annoying bugs (from SIP bugs to Mobile switching the phone to reverse landscape when quitting it if i had been using it in landscape mode for example). That iris version seems to be a bit faster rendering too.

dont get me wrong opera mini is my main browser built in but for tubin' and myspace theres nothin better than skyfire.

I just installed 1.1.3 and this thing is *AMAZING*
Best browser I've ever used on windows mobile.
Stuff just looks ... *right*
I'm so happy winmo is finally get a browser to rival Safari. THIS IS IT.

Personally, i don't think it is great ...there are alot of bugs and the biggest one for me is the HUGE memory consumption and ungracefull UI. People Like opera becaus you have a full screen to work with... and this right now is not cutting it for me.
I'll watch its progress i guess, its not quite "up to speed" for me yet....

joel2009 said:
Personally, i don't think it is great ...there are alot of bugs and the biggest one for me is the HUGE memory consumption and ungracefull UI. People Like opera becaus you have a full screen to work with... and this right now is not cutting it for me.
I'll watch its progress i guess, its not quite "up to speed" for me yet....
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I completely agree...although I must say this version is much better the previous, much less buggy, even though there are still some bugs. and the UI could have been a bit more pleasent...I will stick with Skyfire

Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 Distributable Player
k-semler said:
For flash support, install the official Flash player 3.1 to your device, (not memory card), and unzip the attached file (NPFL3ppc.dll) to \Program Files\Iris Browser\Plugins Flash should now work in Iris Browser.
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I thought I'd include this here so it would be more convenient to grab this and the dll at the same time.
oops.. repost; attached dll.

how was it if compared with NetFront... i'm using NetFront for browsing...
the other i have tried is opera and skyfire... i'm still prefer using the NetFront

kusha said:
how was it if compared with NetFront... i'm using NetFront for browsing...
the other i have tried is opera and skyfire... i'm still prefer using the NetFront
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hmm... haven't tried NetFront; haven't even heard of it up until you mentioned it... does it have OOB flash support? i've tried opera and skyfire, and the new version of IE shipping with wm6.1/wm6.5... so far, Iris seems to be the best browser for me... features like g-sensor (accelerometer) support, touch wheel (HTC Diamond/Touch Pro devices) support, mouse emulation, etc.. really make it the best choice for me.

anyone
Has anyone got iris browser 2.0(latest) version? Torch mobile is no longer there. RIM has taken over and it is no longer available for download. I am using 1.1.9 at the moment.
If anyone has it please post it.