Hi,
Does anyone else find that when you click on hyperlinks in opera, it can take an absolute age for the request to hit the server? I seem to get a fair amount of the HTTP request timed out messages on many popular sites.
A lot of the time clicking on the links does nothing and you have to keep hitting them until it succeeds.
Once you do finally make a request that hits the server the response is very fast indeed.
The problem is definitely to do with making the requests, its not a case of it sitting around waiting for the browser to render the page.
(am on o2 hsdpa with hsupa enabled)
anyone else?
there are 2 opera browsers one called mobile and one called mini
the one called mini is a java app which transfer all requests passed the opera server for comrpesion to be faster and i guess that can cause latency
ahh,
Im using Mobile 9.5 on the 1.37 rom.
Are you sure that it's opera and not e.g. O2 at fault? Have you tried the same site in PIE?
as rubbish as pocket ie is, i never have the problem in ie or opera mini.
The built in opera browser is chronic slow getting the requests out. Downloading is great but clicking links takes forever.
It's annoying because my P1i was blistering fast and I'm starting to see kinks in the browsing experience on the Diamond.
agreed, even on wifi its the same. waah
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There is something about me that doesn't like using Internet Explorer. On my phone (Sony Ericsson K850i) I use the Opera Mini 4 Beta browser and love the way that it renders sites and you can zoom in and out etc...
I installed Opera Mobile on my HTC hoping that it would be exactly the same as mini but I was very disappointed Not only does it not have the text for the soft keys but it doesn't accept touch screen inputs for pressing links and text boxes. Also you don't have the zoom in/out function so you have to see a fully rendered screen or and "everything on one column" rendering that cripples the content.
Is there a decent browser for Windows Mobile? What I am looking for is something that works exactly like Opera Mini but with more compatibility with flash etc...
Any ideas?
At the least I would like to be able to install Opera mini but it comes as a .jad file (Java Midlet?). Is there any way of installing these as my Kaiser doesn't know what to do with the file atm.
Thanks for any help
Oliver
There must be someone out there who uses a browser that they're happy with?
Is there a version of Opera that works with the touch screen?
Thanks
You don't have Java on your phone? Opera mini is free and it is a Java Midlet so you could try and see how you like it without spending any money. There is another free browser that I have called Minimo.
LINK to direct CAB download-- http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It isint the perfect browser either but it does alot of what Opera does and lets you set it with preferences too. Give it a shot and see what you think. Don't like it just remove. I will look on my phone to see if I can extract the Java .exe for you.
I use netfront 3.3 its got better functions than PIE and its back and forward functions using your D-pad is very usefull. as for opera if you want it to scroll like opera mini just enable touch and grab on opera v8.65. it will select links as opera mini does it just wont zoom in like opera mini
Ceck out the articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers
picsel browseris my fav. look around enough and you'll find it
Thanks for the replies!
I'll definitely have a look round for the browsers you mentioned.
I would much appreciate it if you could provide a Java app to enable Java on my phone too
BTW, I'm using Schap's latest ROM if that helps.
Im a bit confused here about the op. Am I the only person that has a copy of Opera Mobile that does everything that the op said it doesn,t do? Which version of Opera mobile did you try? I use O.M on my kaiser and everything you said it doesnt do, mine does.. Ive got touchscreen interactivity aswell as touch scrolling, i can zoom in and out, 3 can resize the screen format to desk top,just fit and one column. Im runing Opera mobile 8.65 for Windows Mobile Pocket PC. By anychance did you accidentily download the smartphone version?
As above - op must have downloaded opera instead of opera-mini...
I'm posting using o-m and must say it's one of the best if not best browser for the wm platform
WOW!
Just installed Picsel and I love it.
The GUI is a bit dodgy but that's cos it's designed for the clie but I love everything else.
Thanks
(Bit of an effort to find a download though)
Ah, I downloaded the Smartphone version. That's prob why I don't have the touch screen thingy.
BTW Subliminal, there is a difference between Opera Mini and Opera Mobile. Opera Mini is what I have on my Sony Ericsson k850i and I would have thought that Opera Mobile worked similarly. It does all the same things but not as smoothly as Opera Mini.
Opera Mini is for Java based phone apps. Opera Mobile is for WM platform.
Opera Mobile has more functions (I think?)
but one main difference is that Opera Mini is free whereas opera mobile isn't.
A direct shortcut can be created to launch opera mini without the need to load the java midlet first. A quick hex edit can skip the connection permissions and another quick tinker can allow direct links from emails to open in opera mini. Sounds more work than it is.
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
I've just downloaded opera mini 4 and have installed it onto my phone.
I have one querey.......
when I was instaling it and when I first used it, it say
this program is connecting to .......port 1080...... requires airtime..... you maybe chaged.....
does this mean my phone isn't using the wifi connection when im running opera mini 4?
picsel browser???
here is the link for picselbrowser i just keep on posting it and be quick if you want it
posted it at rapidshare 4 times allready and it keeps getting removed somehow lol
http://rapidshare.com/files/73569495/Picsel_Browser.cab.html
dolbe said:
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
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I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
MonteCristoffOn said:
I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
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It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
dolbe said:
It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
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Mmmm... don't reach the solution ;-( , even after modifying the browser settings. Always the same message...
"Cannot load page. Check that you are properly connected to the network. Type : TCP connect"
dolbe, can you give me your settings for this great browser ?
MS DeepFish is the best browser I've seen yet. It's in Beta for now though and has limitations. It's similar to Iphone's Safari - which is great.
Opera Mobile 9 will support zooming, just like Opera Mini. I asked Opera for a release date, but they won't say anything. It's supposed to be released "soon".
O.K. Guys and Gals: Long time reader, very infrequent poster. Anyway, Tilt with latest AT&T stock ROM. Seems incapable of rendering one web page that I cannot live without:
http//adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov
I've gotten some good suggestions around the web, but so far no joy. My VZW 6700 CAN render this page very clearly using PIE.
Tried:
IE 6.1 cab
Opera 9.5
Cingular disable proxy
Open to any suggestions as I hit the road Monday and want to like this handset. This issue is a definite deal killer as I need to be able to check weather wherever I happen to be.
Couple of screen grabs for your viewing pleasure. As you can see if you look at relative file sizes, there is a LOT less data in the Tilt grab.
TIA,
Bob Duckworth
Opera Mini
This page worked fine on opera mini
pigue said:
This page worked fine on opera mini
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Guess I should try Mini then. Mini uses a proxy server to render before shipping to the handset??
Dumb question, but which version does one choose for the 8925? Its not listed.
Thanks,
Bob Duckworth
Netfront 3.5 beta blows them all out to Pluto
Checkout my screenshots below. Netfront 3.5 rendered the site within 3 seconds or so. I'll do a video of that loading as well in a few minutes.
I'm absolutely floored by Netfront 3.5s capabilities for a month or so since I've been using it. Only gripe.. its a crazy resource hog (which is ok on my Tilt as its got ample RAM) and causes most other resource intensive apps/functions to not run smoothly.
But.. no biggie. Its flick browsing is just sooooper butter smooth. And best of all it DOES NOT pre-cache/render any site on some remote server before displaying on your device..
I absolutely love it... love it love it love it..
actual video of your specified site loading on NF 3.5 beta
download the .rar (750k) or the .zip (5mb) and the video is in .avi format (19mb). Check it out.
http://rapidshare.com/files/103324003/Netfront_3.5_rendering_a_site.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/103324236/Netfront_3.5_rendering_a_site.rar
AJ
Hi All,
Has anyone else noticed that the Kaiser / IE seems to redirect you to a "pda friendly" version of a website.. I found this alot with News Sites and its nothing like the site you get from a standard PC/Desktop. I dont know how it knows I'm searching from my Kaiser and dont like the "pda friendly" pages, is there anyway to override this "feature" - After all I like to think I am getting to the actual website I want and not what "they" want...
It isn't the Kaiser that takes you to the PDA site. When you access the webserver that hosts the site it checks what browser you are requesting the page from.
neilarmstrong99 said:
Hi All,
Has anyone else noticed that the Kaiser / IE seems to redirect you to a "pda friendly" version of a website.. I found this alot with News Sites and its nothing like the site you get from a standard PC/Desktop. I dont know how it knows I'm searching from my Kaiser and dont like the "pda friendly" pages, is there anyway to override this "feature" - After all I like to think I am getting to the actual website I want and not what "they" want...
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You can avoid this and see the 'real' web by downloading and installing Opera. There is a setting in opera 9.5b's options to see the full web page rather than the mobile version.
Thanks there - I guess I should have known it was the Sites server etc and not the Kaiser.... So IE can't do it then, not had any experience with Opera so will give it a go (assuming I can find it) also I hear there is a Firefox version around called Minimo but again not used it before and dont know if it can do what Opera can....
Many thanks, will let you know how I get on.
Minimo was abandoned somewhere in 2006 at v0.2, was pretty unusable compared to today's browsers like Opera.
Hi,
Thanks for all the advice, yes I can see the pro's of Opera. Very sleek and lets me see the "proper" web page as opposed to the "pda friendly". Shame about Minimo tho as I like Firefox.... Here's to happy web surfing.
neilarmstrong99 said:
Thanks there - I guess I should have known it was the Sites server etc and not the Kaiser.... So IE can't do it then,
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PIE isn't that great... but in these cases the owners of those particular sites have set it up to give a special version of their sites.
Its possible to get to the real version by messing with the user agent... but Opera does it soooooooo much better there isn't really any point. Opera mini 4 is free and works on any java enabled mobile phone (including the kaiser)
Opera Mobile 9.5 is available as a free beta version for windows mobile devices. Eventually they will release a commercial version which they will charge for and this is the one you really want on your kaiser (and should be worth the money!)
Hi,
Skyfire is a free, downloadable mobile web browser that allows you to experience the internet on your phone exactly like on your PC. Now, you can use the full web from your mobile phone with unprecedented speed and simplicity – without the typical restrictions and limitations that current ‘mobile web’ efforts offer. It’s “The Web”, not some mobile web. (Taken from their site)
The best feature in this? "Unlike other mobile browsers, Skyfire supports the desktop version of Adobe Flash applications so sites, including those that serve-up video and music, are rendered exactly as you would expect - just like your PC."
Now... Will Opera support flash or not, we can always install this on Xperia - or any windows mobile - to get flash support for sites...
NOTE: I just read in the main forum the following: "Please note that this board does not tolerate cracks, serials, pirated versions or the posting of software that should have been aquired by legal means and we will remove (delete) them when found. Please help us keep this site clean by posting links of that sort in this tread as well as telling us if you have found anything on the ftp site."
So in light of that, i have removed the link to download Skyfire via RapidShare from here. Anyways, i'm sure if you register on the site, you'll get your hands on it - since even i got it and i am in Pakistan!
Best regards.
This is all well and good, but currently, skyfire doesn't support VGA or WVGA devices!!! Is there a fix/workaround to this?
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This is all well and good, but currently, skyfire doesn't support VGA or WVGA devices!!! Is there a fix/workaround to this?
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It doesn't? Well it's a Beta, so hopefully will soon.
Wow thanks for telling me about this. I installed it and it looks very promising. Not to mention the pages load really fast.
Kloc said:
Wow thanks for telling me about this. I installed it and it looks very promising. Not to mention the pages load really fast.
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Because they optimise the most common pages on their server
It's a really nice app
Kloc said:
Wow thanks for telling me about this. I installed it and it looks very promising. Not to mention the pages load really fast.
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Awesome!!!!
Well after using it for a few days I switched to Opera Mobile bet 9.6. I actually like it quite a bit better then skyfire. Yes skyfire load pages faster then anything I've seen but zooming on those pages takes time and trying to scroll is bad. Opera's new program takes full time to load the page but once it's loaded the scrolling and moving is very good.
In case you can't download this, then i just updated the first post with a rapidshare link to download this.
Skyfire has shut down nonUS winmo 1.5 server access as of July1, 2010. Android v2 still works in Australia. Have found an alternative but costs ~$30 after a 7 day trial, Mach5 Web @ www.netacceler.com. This is a Hongkong based server and may encounter some geolocking by some sites (such as ABC.net.au iview). This is the only video enabled browser for winmo that I'm aware of. It doesn't 'remember' usename and passwords as Opera does.
in the past , i used to LIKE skyfire. Why? because it supports flash and other stuffs. it plays videos on other sites not just youtube. What I don't like about it TODAY is that it does not allow other countries, like the Philippines to use it. now I'm stucked at old opera. so sad.
And it still suffers from the very issues that have been there since it's introduction (checkboard issue, slowness of scrolling and zooming...). Sadly one more app among many others for which development has been stopped due to the imminent lauch of Windows Phone 7. I think now we definitely have to face the fact that our platform (Windows Mobile) is dying.
Mmkay all you xda wizards, I need a bit of guidance here...
I have not yet switched over my browser on my Tilt, and I was wondering two things:
a.) I am working with IE which sucks, of course. I am able to open my browser successfully about three or four times, but after that it shows my homepage addy in the bar, but does not load. I have the Kaiser Tweak on my phone, but I was wondering if there is a setting that will prevent me from having to soft reset my phone when this happens,
b.) I had previously posted a question about switching browsers (h/t to those who made suggestions). I tried one, whose name I cannot recall, and my beef was that it was a pain to have to constantly zoom in on the part of the page I wanted to view. I was told Opera would be a good browser for me-I am really interested in being able to open multiple tabs-and could someone tell me if switching to the Opera browser would do anything to help this data timeout.
Thanks for the help all...I love this site because I am pretty clueless on this type of thing.
get skyfire
Use anything but Pocket IE. I have the following free good browsers installed on my device: Iris Browser, Opera Mini, Opera Mobile, Bolt Browser, and Skyfire. My most used browsers are Skyfire and Opera Mobile, but I use different browsers for different things. Try each one to see which ones you like best.
Dave