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Tmobile 3G in NYC settings?

I am running Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid Rom and don't seem to be picking up the new 3G network in NYC.
I know in the UK there is a username and password. Does anyone know if that is the case in the US?
Also, I have the $5.99 plan, not the full blown $19.99 a month deal.....
Suggestions....

chadvavra said:
Suggestions....
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Call T-mob tech support.

I just noticed that in the phone>settings>band that UMTS 1700 is not an option....
The phone's wiki says it supports it, is this a 'feature' in the Rom?

Kaiser doesn't support the US T-Mobile 3g band.

From the wiki
UMTS 1700 (Emobile-only)
What does Emobile-only mean?

T-Mobile US 3G uses AWS 1700, so you're out of luck on trying to get a kaiser to work on the newly launched T-Mobile 3G. As of this date, there are no smartphones released that will work on the T-Mobile US 3G.
Emobile is (I believe) a Japanese carrier.

ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.

sangwich said:
ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.
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Why would AT&T users have an issue if T-Mobile users are able to utilize 3g or not?

sangwich said:
ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.
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This attitude will get you nowhere other than ignored. Don't make the assumption that just because someone uses AT&T, they are automatically wrong when it comes to other networks.
Anyone with real intelligence would just go to a T-Mobile store in NYC, find a phone that supports 3G, and look at the Band settings page to see which frequency it is running on.
As for the 3G guy in Boston, it is quite possible that a hiccup in the network caused him to jump on to an AT&T tower momentarily.

I think the At&t, lack of 3G issue is related to iPhones, regardless it is silly.
If anything people should argue the cost and terms of their contracts (in the US anyway.)

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This attitude will get you nowhere other than ignored. Don't make the assumption that just because someone uses AT&T, they are automatically wrong when it comes to other networks.
Anyone with real intelligence would just go to a T-Mobile store in NYC, find a phone that supports 3G, and look at the Band settings page to see which frequency it is running on.
As for the 3G guy in Boston, it is quite possible that a hiccup in the network caused him to jump on to an AT&T tower momentarily.
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well i apologize if my comment offended you but you shouldn't assume that i assume that someone using AT&T service is automatically wrong.
If you're trying to say I have no real intelligence, every T-Mobile store I've seen in Queens and Manhattan has dummy phones on display. There is no way to check the settings myself. I can ask the salesman or call CS.
Anyways 3G on T-Mobile isn't just on 1700Mhz. Its also on 2100Mhz
you may be right that the dude in boston jump on to an AT&T tower for a while. but you can be wrong cuz you don't know the details to T-Mobile 3G service. or maybe he didn't have a tilt and had the kaiser/tynt II from europe.

sangwich said:
well i apologize if my comment offended you but you shouldn't assume that i assume that someone using AT&T service is automatically wrong.
If you're trying to say I have no real intelligence, every T-Mobile store I've seen in Queens and Manhattan has dummy phones on display. There is no way to check the settings myself. I can ask the salesman or call CS.
Anyways 3G on T-Mobile isn't just on 1700Mhz. Its also on 2100Mhz
you may be right that the dude in boston jump on to an AT&T tower for a while. but you can be wrong cuz you don't know the details to T-Mobile 3G service. or maybe he didn't have a tilt and had the kaiser/tynt II from europe.
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Right because the tytn II is a completely different device than the tilt...
You need to research how the signals operate and why it utilizes two frequencies and maybe, just maybe, you'll stop making an ass of yourself.

CUSTEL said:
Right because the tytn II is a completely different device than the tilt...
You need to research how the signals operate and why it utilizes two frequencies and maybe, just maybe, you'll stop making an ass of yourself.
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well someone else in the forum mentioned the euro version has different band settings with a different frequency that works with the US T-Mobile 3G network.
jesus you people are way too sensitive.

sangwich said:
well someone else in the forum mentioned the euro version has different band settings with a different frequency that works with the US T-Mobile 3G network.
jesus you people are way too sensitive.
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Maybe you're just way too dumb?

smh... im just repeating what other people say in this forum.
you just got too must estrogen running in your system.

sangwich said:
im just repeating what other people say in this forum.
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Ah, the "Oh, well, I heard it from so-and-so, which means it it ain't MY fault if I'm wrong" excuse.

edgie168 said:
Ah, the "Oh, well, I heard it from so-and-so, which means it it ain't MY fault if I'm wrong" excuse.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389944 last post asshole.

So T-Mobile is such a ghetto-fabulous company that they don't even give you live demos to play with? I mean even Sprint, who Deutsche Telekom is considering buying, gives you live phones to play with.

I'm not sure why my post was deleted, but I'm the guy from boston that posted about my phone jumping to 3g. The reason I posted was because this past friday night(May 2nd 2008), at around 11:30pm, the icon on my phone jumped to 3g. Normally, this only happens for a second, then the carrier info will say AT&T 3G, then I get no service. However, this time, the icon said 3G, and my carrier info still said T-mobile. It stayed that way for about 45 minutes or so.
I'm using an unlocked at&t tilt and a WM6.1 Rom from xda (I don't remember which one, but it's very light - as in, light on crap and unused features)

InGeNeTiCs said:
I'm not sure why my post was deleted, but I'm the guy from boston that posted about my phone jumping to 3g. The reason I posted was because this past friday night(May 2nd 2008), at around 11:30pm, the icon on my phone jumped to 3g. Normally, this only happens for a second, then the carrier info will say AT&T 3G, then I get no service. However, this time, the icon said 3G, and my carrier info still said T-mobile. It stayed that way for about 45 minutes or so.
I'm using an unlocked at&t tilt and a WM6.1 Rom from xda (I don't remember which one, but it's very light - as in, light on crap and unused features)
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So it would be safe to say your tilt jumped on TMO 3g 2100 freq. WOW!!!

HTC Touch Diamond US 3G - working ROM

Is there a working ROM (home brewed or otherwise) that will make the 3G in HTC Diamond work in the US with a carrier like ATT?
I would like to buy a phone and I am not sure if this is possible. I read somewhere that the FCC recently approved 3G version of the model - but would like to know for sure.
Thanks,
Karter

No, there is no ROM. The European Diamonds don't have the hardware necessary for getting anything but 900/2100mhz 3G. Try searching before you ask questions that have been answered 5 times over.

Black93300ZX said:
No, there is no ROM. The European Diamonds don't have the hardware necessary for getting anything but 900/2100mhz 3G. Try searching before you ask questions that have been answered 5 times over.
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Ok now I'm really confused ! I thought the fact (or at least I thought it was) that the "European" Diamonds were ROM upgradable to access US 3G was the whole basis for those of us that are hoping for the Touch Pro to eventually be the same way ??????????????

Black93300ZX said:
No, there is no ROM. The European Diamonds don't have the hardware necessary for getting anything but 900/2100mhz 3G. Try searching before you ask questions that have been answered 5 times over.
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Sorry hit the submit button twice

we ALL hope so, but it looks like is NOT happening!

lol this is just funny now...

frozenwaffles said:
lol this is just funny now...
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Sorry guys - I must have misunderstood some of the posts and I haven't been following the Diamond area closely enough
But I sure am glad I could provide you some entertainment ... but even more so, I sure hope that the when the dust settles the laugh will be on you ???
hopefully

yes yes the manufacturers want to give out all those free features..i forgot how the commercial world works...

Black93300ZX said:
No, there is no ROM. The European Diamonds don't have the hardware necessary for getting anything but 900/2100mhz 3G. Try searching before you ask questions that have been answered 5 times over.
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that is not entirely true. The hardware is exactly the same.

Please don't perpetuate this false rumor - DIAM 100 is not 850mz 3G capable
Based on the fact that HTC submitted a different model number than DIAM 100, the DIAM110
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/...mFrame=N&application_id=417017&fcc_id='NM8DM')
to the FCC, it seems pretty clear that the hardware between the European version and the US version are in fact different. In addition, no one has been ale to get 850mhz 3G working on any existing (i.e., DIAM100) phone. If you can show evidence otherwise, I'm sure people would be interested. Otherwise, I think you're spreading a false rumor created out of wishful thinking and HTC's past behavior of not enabling GPS on the Trinity.

landshark said:
Based on the fact that HTC submitted a different model number than DIAM 100, the DIAM110
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/...mFrame=N&application_id=417017&fcc_id='NM8DM')
to the FCC, it seems pretty clear that the hardware between the European version and the US version are in fact different. In addition, no one has been ale to get 850mhz 3G working on any existing (i.e., DIAM100) phone. If you can show evidence otherwise, I'm sure people would be interested. Otherwise, I think you're spreading a false rumor created out of wishful thinking and HTC's past behavior of not enabling GPS on the Trinity.
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Indeed there is no evidence to prove the DIAM100 can work on US 3G. But, i dont think its hardware related well i just keep my hope that something can make mine work. Dont want to sell it out!

lets speculate a little....
1) Mobile phone chipsets ARE multiband by definition. Even if it says that it is only 1900MHz, its chipset suports a range of frequencies (something like 1850 to 1990). Why? because it has to support lots of call in a single cell. The call are spread over hundreds of channels (frequencies) and across time-slots in a code division scheme.
And because it uses a code division scheme for multiple simultaneos calls, then all these frequencies are used at the same time.
So, operating frequency is programmable.
2) The Antenna has also to support multiple frequencies.
3) I think the only reason a chipset has to not support a frequency is the processor speedy. But 7201A specs says it suports 2.1GHz as well as 850GHz UMTS.
So, the reason a mobile phone has to be dual band and not quadband has to be only market related and not technical.
Is this correct?
or only bull****?
If this is correct, then Diamod Hardware HAS to be UMTS Quadband.
And, to provide HTC a commercial advantage when negotiating with carriers (that is, HTC locks european models to not work in USA --- so that, to use 3G in USA one needs to by the device from the local carrier --- this leads to better contracts with the carrier).
If Diamond hardware is quadband where is the lock?
From all the reseaches we are almost sure it is not in the main storage memory (Radio or ROM).
It can be hardware locked....then the only way to unlock will be hacking the hardware wich is not viable for almost all of us (if it is not impossible).
But (trying thinking as HTC engineers), how about lock it (outside the memory --- because users are flashing hacked Radios and ROMs) but still in a programable way? (I think like sim-lock is done this way in many devices). Because doing this way I don´t have to create diferent production pipelines and different projects.
By programmable I mean a process that is done after the phone (or the main board) is manufactured.
If all of this is true (and I think it is not ) than the question is: is this final process reversible? (like simlock)?
If yes then how?
Uau.....I am impressed on the amount of **** I can write sometimes.

Question about 3G in US.

Yes i have a question concerning about the 3G network for AT&T. I have read alot of sticky's, threads new and old and can't seem to get a definite answer to what i am looking for. I really didnt want to post this, but i have searched everything by going into the search tab at the top. So i was wondering does the version Diam100 from EU/Asia have the hardware to support 3G for AT&T. I know it says it in the tabs on the phone that it can recieve the 3G band, but i have read its the hardware that can't but they werent sure. I've also read that some people say it needs a newer radio and/or ROM to get 3G. I really dont want to flash a new radio onto my phone if i dont need it. Can someone so kind as to tell me if it is or it is not capable so i can decide to keep the phone or not.
Thank you ever so much,
Xero

EU/Asia diamond won't work in US, i even tired swapping a US radio into a Euro Diamond and still didn't work. Only US diamond with US radio will give you 3G.
Hope it helps.

Kinda figured. But how bout this. Can anybody answer this its most likely a no but im just curious. Can you add/change the hardware from inside to receive 3G? And if so how? I know the answer is a no but someone might of done it or figured it out without messing up the phone.

us vs north america
averma said:
EU/Asia diamond won't work in US, i even tired swapping a US radio into a Euro Diamond and still didn't work. Only US diamond with US radio will give you 3G.
Hope it helps.
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is the us considered its own seperate band or does it share the same bands as canada and mexico? i ask b/c i bought my diamond from a canadian and i truly hope its 3g works here inthe states. i am with t-mobile and they dont have 3g in my area yet.

kwambewright said:
is the us considered its own seperate band or does it share the same bands as canada and mexico? i ask b/c i bought my diamond from a canadian and i truly hope its 3g works here inthe states. i am with t-mobile and they dont have 3g in my area yet.
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What version do you have of the phone and what ROM and Radio? If its from Asia/EU then thats a no.

Xero Omega said:
What version do you have of the phone and what ROM and Radio? If its from Asia/EU then thats a no.
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p3700 about to try udk's R3 i think its the latest htc stock radio 1.11.25.01
currently XBoxmods

WW Radio

Is the lack of ability to support the US AT&T 3G frequencies a ROM issue or a hardware issue?

I really don't know. From reading it is a hardware issue....but.... if it's like the TP2 and you go to where you can select which bands to use the AT&T bands are listed.

HTC Touch Freak said:
I really don't know. From reading it is a hardware issue....but.... if it's like the TP2 and you go to where you can select which bands to use the AT&T bands are listed.
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The AT&T bands are not listed as being supported. I was hoping it was a ROM issue so that a radio ROM could fix the issue. It looks as if that is not the case. Makes no sense to me why HTC would want two different GSM based hardware platforms to support.

They did it with the first TP though. The European TP has no US 3g bands

AstainHellbring said:
They did it with the first TP though. The European TP has no US 3g bands
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I did not realize that because I am still using the Kaiser. There must be some good reason they chose to do this, but it escapes me. Anyway, unless there is a possibility for a ROM enablement, and it appears there is not, there is no need to continue this thread. Too bad! Thank you all for your responses.

perlmane said:
I did not realize that because I am still using the Kaiser. There must be some good reason they chose to do this, but it escapes me. Anyway, unless there is a possibility for a ROM enablement, and it appears there is not, there is no need to continue this thread. Too bad! Thank you all for your responses.
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It is not listed on the site but is listed in the phone itself. If I understand right the reason that it does not support tri or quad band 3G is that the processor is built with only specific bands. When the tecnology is there to squeeze more bands in with it then we will get what we want.
Or something like that.

HTC HD7S on T-Mobile US... EDGE only?

Why oh why!
So do AT&T run their 3G on a different frequency to T-Mobile?
Is the only physical difference between the HD7 and HD7S the display? Or are there different chips inside - ie is the Mhz restriction in hardware or can it be overridden in software?
Rocking out on EDGE really isnt much fun!

Yeah, until the merger(if it happens) T-Mobile and AT&T use different 3G radio fregencies. Sorry 'bout that.

JamesDax said:
Yeah, until the merger(if it happens) T-Mobile and AT&T use different 3G radio fregencies. Sorry 'bout that.
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Even if the merger happens, at&t has already stated that anyone with a T-Mobile phone will have to get an at&t phone eventually. They aren't gonna keep T-Mobile's network around for long.
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Why oh why!
So do AT&T run their 3G on a different frequency to T-Mobile?
Is the only physical difference between the HD7 and HD7S the display? Or are there different chips inside - ie is the Mhz restriction in hardware or can it be overridden in software?
Rocking out on EDGE really isnt much fun!
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Pretty sure the only big difference is the screen. We haven't heard much else that is different, and there probably isn't much. Oh, the speaker grills on the top and bottom are not silver (if I recall correctly). That's about all we know.