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I bricked it :(

After about a week and a half of reading these posts and researching, I tried to downgrade from the official cingular 2.25 to 1.8 (cuz 2.25 seemed jankey)
I did the SIM unlock thru that mei service where you pay 38 bux ( im kinda freaked out right now and cant remember their name)
Then downloaded Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe and it began to downgrade and where it started but at 16% came up with a "ERROR [262] UPDATE ERROR". there was a recovery option, followed that but it kept coming up with the same error. now at boot, it comes up to a screen where its red, green and blue.
Have I permentantly screwed my phone? Can someone lend a hand at trying to salvage it? Any help would be soooo totally appreciated. Judging by the rock in my stomach right now....im gonna hurl

ok apparently there is a difference in using the USB port on the front of the computer versus the ones on the back. Tried over and over again to install the above mentioned rom...same thing...at 16% it took a crap.
Downloaded the official cingular 2.25 rom and tried installing that over and over again. It also kept taking a dump at 56% each time. Last ditch effort, tried a USB port in the back of the computer and official rom 2.25 installed and everything is cool.
Not sure if anyone else will run into this problem, but just to be safe, use the back ports. And this will officially end my stab at screwing around with roms. A jankey phone is better than a paper weight. That was just too nerve racking. whew
by the way - anyone have a putty knife? i need to scrape out my undies...that was a pant ****ting moment

You must have missed the part where it said there is, or are, NO G4 bootloader modifications, especially in any older roms as yet.
kyphur
388 posts since Dec '05
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Post Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:14
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kanate wrote:
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
G4 phone can't downgrade at all. 1.x Roms do not have G4 Bootloaders.
A few users have had problems when their IPL/SPL versions don't match. So there is the possibility that you will brick your phone.
Did you bother going into the OS on the phone at all after the downgrade to unlock? or did you just connect it to USB and run lokiwiz?
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8125 - USA - Cingular - My Own AKU 2.3 Rom
PP Badge Number Double Oh-No...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55097
I'm returning mine bcause cingular wants $$ every time you use there less than worthless wifi feature.
I have read a 100 pages & have not seen a single word about this 'issue' ?? Dell Axim x51v asap ce la vie 8125ppc

vinyl313 said:
ok apparently there is a difference in using the USB port on the front of the computer versus the ones on the back. Tried over and over again to install the above mentioned rom...same thing...at 16% it took a crap.
Downloaded the official cingular 2.25 rom and tried installing that over and over again. It also kept taking a dump at 56% each time. Last ditch effort, tried a USB port in the back of the computer and official rom 2.25 installed and everything is cool.
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I never use the front USB ports, just to make sure everything goes okay.
But when I think of it, most of the times when I flash Roms I use my laptop that only has 4 USB ports on the left-side
Molski

which usb you plug into means nothing. it's only 1.1 anyways.
8125 is a junk anyways. I've had mine for one day & am already hot to return it because I found out Cingular will charge for data every time I access a wifi network.
If your phone is less than a year just get something else under warranty.

ok, I'll bite. How can Cingular charge for data on a WiFi network that they don't own?
To fix, simply make sure you put your phone in flight mode when accessing WiFi. The problem is that the GPRS network is still being accessed while WiFi is active. Its a bug btw and I've seen this in the AKU1.0 - 2.0 roms.

vinyl313 said:
ok apparently there is a difference in using the USB port on the front of the computer versus the ones on the back. Tried over and over again to install the above mentioned rom...same thing...at 16% it took a crap.
Downloaded the official cingular 2.25 rom and tried installing that over and over again. It also kept taking a dump at 56% each time. Last ditch effort, tried a USB port in the back of the computer and official rom 2.25 installed and everything is cool.
Not sure if anyone else will run into this problem, but just to be safe, use the back ports. And this will officially end my stab at screwing around with roms. A jankey phone is better than a paper weight. That was just too nerve racking. whew
by the way - anyone have a putty knife? i need to scrape out my undies...that was a pant ****ting moment
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USB ports on the front of Desktops are, most of the time, setup on a USB hub. Where as the back ports are "directly" connected to the USB controler chip. While I have not seen it for the phone, when you do OS upgrades on IPAQ's they warn you not to connect through a USB hub. The same rule of thumb probably exsist with the phone OS's also. Just a little FYI for those who are interested.

tweker said:
which usb you plug into means nothing. it's only 1.1 anyways.
8125 is a junk anyways. I've had mine for one day & am already hot to return it because I found out Cingular will charge for data every time I access a wifi network.
If your phone is less than a year just get something else under warranty.
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Cingular does NOT charge for using the WiFi.

Help is on the way
Get your receipt and take it back to a Cingular Store it you got it within the last 30 days. If not call the 800 number for waranty suport. Tell them your phone just started to freeze up and you went to the Cingular site to download the update. Tell them the update went through and now it won't boot. They will send you a replacement. Keep in mind you may get an old version (VERY Benifical for customized roms) or a re-furb

I don't get the relationship between Cingular charging for data use and the 8125 being junk. One is a carrier's policy the other being the unit itself.

tweker said:
which usb you plug into means nothing. it's only 1.1 anyways.
8125 is a junk anyways. I've had mine for one day & am already hot to return it because I found out Cingular will charge for data every time I access a wifi network.
If your phone is less than a year just get something else under warranty.
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As I was purchasing my 8125 a cingular employee pulled out his 8125 and told me that Cingular does charge for any data transfer to the phone including wifi. I told him I would take my chances.
Cingular does not charge for wifi access, no matter what they tell you.

Funky B said:
tweker said:
which usb you plug into means nothing. it's only 1.1 anyways.
8125 is a junk anyways. I've had mine for one day & am already hot to return it because I found out Cingular will charge for data every time I access a wifi network.
If your phone is less than a year just get something else under warranty.
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As I was purchasing my 8125 a cingular employee pulled out his 8125 and told me that Cingular does charge for any data transfer to the phone including wifi. I told him I would take my chances.
Cingular does not charge for wifi access, no matter what they tell you.
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This is killing me. Its the send thread Tweker has posted this nonsense in. There is no way cingular would be able to charge you for Wifi. They can charge you for media net (GPRA), but not wifi. YOU ARENT USING THEIR NETWORK FOR WIFI.

There is NO difference between your computer's front and back USB ports. The all go to the SAME place on your motherboard. If you don't believe me open up your case and look for your self.
Your phone is not bricked. You just need to reflash the 2.25 rom on to it. There is nothing wrong with 2.25. I came from 1.8 and 2.25 is definately a step up. Trust me.
tweker said:
which usb you plug into means nothing. it's only 1.1 anyways.
8125 is a junk anyways. I've had mine for one day & am already hot to return it because I found out Cingular will charge for data every time I access a wifi network.
If your phone is less than a year just get something else under warranty.
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You are quite possibly one of the DUMBEST people I have ever seen post on any message board. Ever. :roll:

tweker said:
I'm returning mine bcause cingular wants $$ every time you use there less than worthless wifi feature.
I have read a 100 pages & have not seen a single word about this 'issue' ?? Dell Axim x51v asap ce la vie 8125ppc
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Dude, you are such a moron!! If you only understood.

GldRush98 said:
There is NO difference between your computer's front and back USB ports. The all go to the SAME place on your motherboard. If you don't believe me open up your case and look for your self.
Your phone is not bricked. You just need to reflash the 2.25 rom on to it. There is nothing wrong with 2.25. I came from 1.8 and 2.25 is definately a step up. Trust me.
tweker said:
which usb you plug into means nothing. it's only 1.1 anyways.
8125 is a junk anyways. I've had mine for one day & am already hot to return it because I found out Cingular will charge for data every time I access a wifi network.
If your phone is less than a year just get something else under warranty.
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You are quite possibly one of the DUMBEST people I have ever seen post on any message board. Ever. :roll:
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Sorry but your wrong. It's well documented that in particular Dell had a voltage problem with the front USB ports. I do agree with you that they're not "hubs" as per Itcatack but please be careful when you proclaim "facts" ...
Now I am pretty sure though that a under voltage problem probably didn't cause this error. There's many other factors here, not least of which are spyware, malware, etc. Mayhaps running a proggy during the upgrade.... who knows? (not me !)
Just my 3 cents worth... (you get more than 2 cents with me ...)

tweaker is famous for making ludicrous posts about cingular/wifi, just search for posts from his name. he's out of his mind.

:shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

livejamie said:
tweaker is famous for making ludicrous posts about cingular/wifi, just search for posts from his name. he's out of his mind.
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That is absolutely accurate, although this is my 2nd post, I have been reading posts here since March when I got my 8125. Tweker has made a strong argument that cingular reps have told him there is a charge for WIFI, and best I can figure, he is simply unable to understand the difference betweeen edge and localized WIFI internet.
Regarding the USB issue, there could be a problem if the controller isn't working correctly, or the physical port is damaged or dirty. Front ports tend to be more prone then the ones on the back to damage or dirt.

Man, if Cingular charges for WiFi access on the 8125, that means they've done a HORRIBLE job at trying to charge me as I use WiFi all the time both around the house and campus and not a single cent of that usage shows up on my bill.
Of course, I could just be the lucky one and got away with it somehow :lol:

they don't charge for wifi, that's the point.

i need help with dead xda2i

i tried to update my xda2i rom and it is now dead i am running windows vista. the screen shows usb v1.01 i have read elswhere that all is not lost and some people have suggested trying to install rom again on a pc running windows xp i have tried this without success when i run the upgrade program it shows a communication error 101 i would really appreciate any help or suggestions

If screen shows USB 1.01, it means that your mobile is not completely dead. Worse case when it shows Serial.
Go to Windows XP and install ActiveSync 3.7(only 3.7, not later version) and try to flash again.
Don't worry, I think it will be ok.

peter111964 said:
i tried to update my xda2i rom and it is now dead i am running windows vista. the screen shows usb v1.01 i have read elswhere that all is not lost and some people have suggested trying to install rom again on a pc running windows xp i have tried this without success when i run the upgrade program it shows a communication error 101 i would really appreciate any help or suggestions
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Here's a way of rescuing an Alpine stuck on Bootloader...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1739989

man im really thnx to you. i tryed to update wm6 on my xda2i(sorry i didnt know) and same ****... im in sama stuation vista ect ect.... the worst thing is i tried on my dads phone he didnt understand what is going on(thnx god) and by the way really thnx to server too

XDA lli DEAD!
Hi ... someone can help me ... I dont want to update my PDA is clear .. but I found a video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHbIjKVzMYg&feature=related
Ok this is not the point, I restar my PDA and stop´s I take out the battery and when I tray again dont do anything I plugin in my PC and dont dettect any light or system ... WHAT CAN I DO? HELLLLLLLP ME!

I've just been given an xda 2i but there is no OS on it at all..just the serial screen, i've tried to hard reset but it just goes back to serial..i think i may need to put a new 2003se onto it but cannot find one anywhere, can anybody help?

baltisalty said:
I've just been given an xda 2i but there is no OS on it at all..just the serial screen, i've tried to hard reset but it just goes back to serial..i think i may need to put a new 2003se onto it but cannot find one anywhere, can anybody help?
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you obviously canot read old post or anything relating to the forum, if you care to actually look there is a post in the forum about the update, and a link in the post to download the OS.
pls try looking before asking daft questions.
FYI the post is called... Deathnoise 1.11.171 ROM. Bluetooth patched, camera fixed. Radio 1.04
amazing isnt it? and that was just a few lines down from this topic, it took me ooo 1 second to find it.
and for the guy that posted teh rply before this one, your an idiot that was a XDA2 not XDA2i
this flame of a idiotic noob was braught to you by.. Flame co.inc.
god sakes dont anybody ever EVER look to see if the few thousand ppl that have been here before may have had the same problem? try reading other posts before asking daft questions

Get a life..and a sh*g skeeve..you take life too seriously. Some people have meaningful and busy lives and don't spend hours and days like you trawling through all these posts, there is a world outside your bedroom you know

ps thanks for the link, i'm just too busy to have checked for my 'idiot noob self' but i've bought a new pda anyway after posting that

baltisalty said:
ps thanks for the link, i'm just too busy to have checked for my 'idiot noob self' but i've bought a new pda anyway after posting that
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you proved my point, nuf said.
It took longer for you to hijack this thread than it would have to check another thread. That would have been much faster to read than signing up to the forum and asking the same old questions.
its very annoying when someone asks a question that been asked a thousand times, I am a mod (not here) in a few pc based forums, you know how long we have to spend removing threads or answering the same olds which have been asked time and time again, even though there are forum search engines, stickies or other posts answering them?
To be honest its you who needs to learn how to use a forum. And READ the forum rules. just like the hundreds of other users out there that never bother.
fyi: I am a second chef in a restaurant and work 36 hours a week. I also run a small pc repair business in my spare time, I just happen to love my xda2 and xad2i, so frequent these forums. Odd really shame I cannot get out of my bedroom and getting a "sh*g"? Well not as often as I would like, but I do manage. And its not nice making this a personal slur, as I was only pointing out your ineptitude about the use and etiquette of the net and forums.
p.s. if you would care to actually read my post as well, i never called you anything, it was the guy that poseted before you that tried to update to wm5/6. that "idiot noob self" must be somthing you get called alot (thats a personnel dig, as i like to leave things even)

Server said:
If screen shows USB 1.01, it means that your mobile is not completely dead. Worse case when it shows Serial.
Go to Windows XP and install ActiveSync 3.7(only 3.7, not later version) and try to flash again.
Don't worry, I think it will be ok.
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HELp !!
My XDa2I has today started randam resets , 7 times thus far !
I changed the battery with no success and it has just settled down at last .
Each reset showed the serial numbers at the bottom of the screen .
Does that indicate something ??

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ideas where I can get a cheap replacement battery for my dying XDA 2i ?

error 300 on upgrading

Ive been upgrading my o2 rom to the most recent. It got to 99% then came up with an error. When i turn it on now it only goes to the 3 colour boot screen, says at the bottom usb is connected but comes up with error 300 when i come to flash it.
I think after all the playing around trying to get it working Ive gone below the 50% battery full.
Had a good look round the forum, but couldn't find a fix.
I think its time for bin!

marfanuk said:
Had a good look round the forum, but couldn't find a fix.
I think its time for bin!
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It's NOT time for the bin.
Try to charge your battery on another phone or borrow a full one. Then try to flash back same ROM you had before the crash.
Also give us more info about your phone; HELP US HELP YOU!

I Have The Same Problem
What I Can Do To Bypass This Error

mestrini said:
It's NOT time for the bin.
Try to charge your battery on another phone or borrow a full one. Then try to flash back same ROM you had before the crash.
Also give us more info about your phone; HELP US HELP YOU!
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thats easier said than done. I dont actually know anyone with a PDA let alone a spare charged battery.
Thanks for your suggestion though.

Ive just fixed the problem and its working great again.
heres what I did...
I charged my phone via my mains charger - it didnt say it was charging, but it did.
Then I followed epimazzo' post...
My Wizard was almost bricked at that time and after I speak with an I-mate technical guy, I got the following:
1. Make sure your i-mate™ K-JAM is not Connected to the PC and remove the dummy card or SD/MMC card
2. On your Desktop PC, open Microsoft ActiveSync, then go to File >Connection Settings >Remove the Selection from “Allow USB Connection with this desktop computer”
3. Reconnect your i-mate K-JAM to the Desktop PC using the USB Cradle and the Charger MUST be Connected to the Cradle (Don’t use the IrDA or Bluetooth for the Upgrade)
4. Run the Upgrade again and it will work fine without any problems.
While upgrading, the ActiveSync program will not go on, however the upgrade is running.
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I just flashed it with the ROM and it installed perfectly.
thanks epimazzo

no usb activity

First I want to say i really like this forum. It has al lot of info.
And I appoligize for my English, I'm from The Netherlands.
Now my question, ik recently(few days a go) bought a TytnII of a member of this forum (don't know his nick, doesn't matter) but when i came home I noticed that when I connected to my computer via USB, there was no activity at all.
I already tried to hard reset it to factory defaults, but with no luck.
Can any one help me out?
(I already tried to turn off the advanced at usb to pc connections, and also my active sync is okey because it does work for my qtek9100)
thanks very much.
Patrick

Priknr1 said:
First I want to say i really like this forum. It has al lot of info.
And I appoligize for my English, I'm from The Netherlands.
Now my question, ik recently(few days a go) bought a TytnII of a member of this forum (don't know his nick, doesn't matter) but when i came home I noticed that when I connected to my computer via USB, there was no activity at all.
I already tried to hard reset it to factory defaults, but with no luck.
Can any one help me out?
(I already tried to turn off the advanced at usb to pc connections, and also my active sync is okey because it does work for my qtek9100)
thanks very much.
Patrick
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When u plug it in, what does the led light(the one thet normaly blink green) do?
EDIT:there is a search function on this site. Try to look for "kaiser can not connect activesync" and try to read these threads.
This one looked similar, give it a try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2204391

I already found that post, the problem is not just actuve sync, mycomputer does not respond at al, does not see a divice at the usb port or anything.

Priknr1 said:
I already found that post, the problem is not just actuve sync, mycomputer does not respond at al, does not see a divice at the usb port or anything.
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do u have a vista or xp? I remember some posts about problems with vista, unfortunately I cant remember where it was.

I have xp, I know about the problems with Vista , but that's not my problem :S
Is it possible to place a new image or something like that? If it is possible where do i find such an image and how do i install it? Is this possible from the SD card?

Priknr1 said:
I have xp, I know about the problems with Vista , but that's not my problem :S
Is it possible to place a new image or something like that? If it is possible where do i find such an image and how do i install it? Is this possible from the SD card?
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I really dont know what can cause this issue.
To find out about rom flashing, u better start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282

when you got your new devcie did you install activsync from the new disc that came with it or did you assume activsync is all the same( as an owner of a htc univwersal i know activsync 4.1 will not operate the tytn 2 you have to use activsync 4.5 also what usb lead are you using try using a lead from a different device, those leads come with pretty much everything i have 6 and i only remember the tytn 2 one being an important one as i use the internet sharing a lot

Mikulec said:
I really dont know what can cause this issue.
To find out about rom flashing, u better start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
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But is there a chance that this solves my problem or isn't it worth the try?

you said that youd reset to factory settings, so the rom will be as good as itl get in its origional form.
so answer what usb lead you using, is it the one that was in the box with the phone
and
did you install the newer version of activsync from the disc that came from the new phones box

jayjay8585 said:
you said that youd reset to factory settings, so the rom will be as good as itl get in its origional form.
so answer what usb lead you using, is it the one that was in the box with the phone
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did you install the newer version of activsync from the disc that came from the new phones box
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i downloaded the newest active sync (4.5) didn't work.
But why does windows xp not react at all when i plug it in? it should at least see new hardware added wright?
With lead you mean the usb-cable? (sorry ain't that good at english)
i think it's the original one, but offcourse because i can't say for sure because i didn't buy it in a store but second hand. He did give me the reciet an the original box and everything so i guess it's also the original cable.
Also i tried 4 diffirent ones.

well im afraid it looks more like a pc issue than a phone issue what os you got on your pc and give me all your specs, and please tell your windows is genuine

U can also try different cable, just to be sure its not the cable that is causing these problems.

maybe they sold you a device with a messed up usb port? maybe 1 of the 3 middle pins of the top set of pins when the device is face up is damaged..thats what happened to mine and you couldnt tell by looking at it...

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maybe they sold you a device with a messed up usb port? maybe 1 of the 3 middle pins of the top set of pins when the device is face up is damaged..thats what happened to mine and you couldnt tell by looking at it...
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Okey so that is pssible, well I believe it's only 6 months old, so I'll go to the store with it.
@ jayjay8585 and Mikulec
I appriciate your effort for helping out, but if you've read the posts, you would have read that i have an other pda that does work, so not a OS problem(and yes it's a legit OS ) and that i've used several different cables
Is there a way to test if it's just a broken usb ?

Laptop Doesn't See Tilt
I've got the same issue. Got mine second hand only about 2 weeks ago. I was told it was unlocked but it was not. Got the unlock code from AT&T. When I plug the usb cord into the laptop it charges but the computer doesn't recognize new hardware. Any help would be appreciated and what I find out I'll pass on.

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I've got the same issue. Got mine second hand only about 2 weeks ago. I was told it was unlocked but it was not. Got the unlock code from AT&T. When I plug the usb cord into the laptop it charges but the computer doesn't recognize new hardware. Any help would be appreciated and what I find out I'll pass on.
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Mine probably has a mainboard roblem because an other firmware was put on, Icontacted HTC and it will be picked up for repairing

I sometimes have a simulair issue... with me it is because the USB connector plugs are slightly out of place (in the phone).
You can bend than back with a thin knife or someting. (dont put to much pressure)

I assume from reading the other posts, you DO have Activesync installed, and you did try a different USB cable?
If so, did you try another USB port on your computer?

Help !!! Orange Replacement...

Hi guys my blackstone is playing up when connected to Wifi...
if i move the performance slider inside wifi adv settings to max battery or moderate it stays connected but no data is coming through...had a word with orange and they are going to replace my handset.
the only problem is i am using all the custom softwares which are
hspl olinex 1.56
rom htc wwe 1.56 europe
radio 1.14
and i need to restore all the factory default...as far as i am aware the rom was 1.19
can anyone help me ??
thanx

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Hi guys my blackstone is playing up when connected to Wifi...
if i move the performance slider inside wifi adv settings to max battery or moderate it stays connected but no data is coming through...had a word with orange and they are going to replace my handset.
the only problem is i am using all the custom softwares which are
hspl olinex 1.56
rom htc wwe 1.56 europe
radio 1.14
and i need to restore all the factory default...as far as i am aware the rom was 1.19
can anyone help me ??
thanx
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There is advice on this in the wiki. Alternatively you can follow the start of cRaCKwHoRe's guide below in my signature. It'll help you restore stock rom & radio

thanx man i ll give it a try once i get home

itsjatt5 said:
Hi guys my blackstone is playing up when connected to Wifi...
if i move the performance slider inside wifi adv settings to max battery or moderate it stays connected but no data is coming through...had a word with orange and they are going to replace my handset.
the only problem is i am using all the custom softwares which are
hspl olinex 1.56
rom htc wwe 1.56 europe
radio 1.14
and i need to restore all the factory default...as far as i am aware the rom was 1.19
can anyone help me ??
thanx
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Do you have Bluetooth enabled when trying? If so, try disabling it and checking again. There is an issue with some ROM's not liking the settings, there are a few threads on what to change to enable it to work fine though.

No m8 the blue tooth is off and i have tried all sort of things...
some how it all started working now...
its just one of those windows things....where logic fails
thanx for the replies

just make sure a standard windows 6.1 HTC or Orange rom is on the phone and send it back - i've had no problems doing this even with a custom SPL version on there

I just sent my handset back with Duttys ROM on it
I dont think Orange are organised enough to bother chasing you up about it
It would only get picked up when they get the phone back to engineering - I doubt they even turn the phones on - they just flash them with their ROM as a first step. Even if it did get discovered - im sure they arent sophisticated enough to trace it back to you - and even if they did trace it back - what are they going to do then ?? send it back to you ??

Is all well saying this, but I do know someone who sent their phone back with an earlier dutty rom version and they refused to fix it as he had broken warranty.
My honest advice is don't take chances. Would you take the same risks with your house or car? Bare in mind the cost of the HD. Its straight forward to revert back to stock roms anyhow. Takes less than 10 mins for reassurance

When I had the Orange Tytn 2, I had 3 replacements from Orange and when I sent the faulty phones back, I left the custom ROM installed with the Hard SPL on it, Orange never complained.
I would just send it back as is.

Radeon123 said:
When I had the Orange Tytn 2, I had 3 replacements from Orange and when I sent the faulty phones back, I left the custom ROM installed with the Hard SPL on it, Orange never complained.
I would just send it back as is.
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I'm just highlighting the risks so he can make an informed decision knowing both sides.

Fallen Spartan said:
I'm just highlighting the risks so he can make an informed decision knowing both sides.
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I appreciate your comment and im quite amazed - I wonder did your friend TELL them in advance that he had a custom Rom ?
I'm only saying that because Ive never heard of anyone having this problem in the past - in fact I sent back my old S710 at least 3 times under warranty and they never said a word plus now my touch HD

frottage said:
I appreciate your comment and im quite amazed - I wonder did your friend TELL them in advance that he had a custom Rom ?
I'm only saying that because Ive never heard of anyone having this problem in the past - in fact I sent back my old S710 at least 3 times under warranty and they never said a word plus now my touch HD
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I don't believe he would have been stupid enough to mention this, but to be honest I never asked him that.
IMO operators including Orange are aware of this site and realise they can't live without it. Maybe he was just unlucky. I've never had to return my device and if I ever had to, for the time it takes, I'd probably restore stock rom, but thats just me.