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Signal Strength issues-Kaiser

Here is an interesting observation. I have noticed the signal strength (HTC Kaiser branded, with the ATT carrier), for the most part has been averaging 2 to 3 bars. While at a local ATT store, I noticed the Tilt, 2 display models, were both displaying 4 bars, while mine, (HTC) branded only gave 2 bars. Now add another customer that also had a branded HTC Kaiser, his displayed the same as mine. Yet both ATT Tilts were (4) bars. The rep. indicted that all the ATT Tilts have been tweaked!. I called HTC and they had no clue. Has anyone been aware of this difference?

more bars in more places...even if it's only imaginary.

is the radio software reporting as the same?

Kaiser signal strength seems OK
Signal strength can also depend on what cell your phone is locked onto at the time. If the nearest cell is busy, your phone could be switched to a less busy nearby cell and thereby show less bars. My own observations are that the Kaiser (I have HTC TyTN II) is every bit as good as my previous Dopod 810 (Trinity) and my friends dedicated LG phone. Signal strength is not an issue for me and I spend every weekend in a very marginal area.

Actually I have noticed the same. On my unbranded HTC Tytn II I also only get 2 bars when the band is set to Auto under phone settings. Selecting network type GSM thus forcing off 3G I can get back to 4 bars so maybe the radio rom for the At&T is better?

On my Tilt I've gone back and forth between the ATT and HTC ROMs and I do get about one bar better on the ATT ROM average.

Well thank you all for the posts. I tried switching the system from auto to GSM, and there you go......full 4 bars. Maybe the Auto 3G limits the signal strength.

Hi
Well thank you all for the posts. I tried switching the system from auto to GSM, and there you go......full 4 bars. Maybe the Auto 3G limits the signal strength.
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3G doesn't have as good as coverage as GSM, and may even be coming from a different mast to your GSM signal. 3G normally uses higher frequencies that will not penetrate so far into buildings and is transmitted at a lower power.
It is quite common that you will have a lower 3G signal than you would on GSM.
Regards
Phil

Signal Strength.
Hi Thanks for all the posts. I went to settings and phone and cannot see where to change the auto to gsm. I have the new ATT tilt. Help I really need a better signal or I will have to take my wonderful new toy back
dot

Whether you have one or five bars is unimportant. What's important:
Are your calls getting to you or going out with acceptable consistency?
Are you getting the data connection and speeds you desire?
Are able to get the messages you want?
Are you getting the battery life you're looking for?
Answer those questions and then decide whether or not to take the phone back. If it's "yes" to all of the above, then you really don't care if it shows 1/2 a bar - it's meeting the needs you've got.

Signal Strength.
Most everything is great except: When I place or receive a call, most of the time we cannot communicate. Everything cuts out. It is frustrating for me and whomever I am speaking with. I would love to change the settings to GSM only, but I don't seem to have that option on my att tilt 8925.

Signal Strength Fixed AT&T Tilt
Signal Strength Fixed AT&T Tilt
http://www.commmgrpro.com/jsp/main_frame.jsf
switch to Bandswitch tab from CommMgrPRO
download bandswitch zip file unzip should give you cab file.
install it in your TILT, run the program, change AUTO TO GSM
i used to have 2 bars NOW I HAVE 4 FULL BARS
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

jimzeeem said:
Signal Strength Fixed AT&T Tilt
http://www.commmgrpro.com/jsp/main_frame.jsf
switch to Bandswitch tab from CommMgrPRO
download bandswitch zip file unzip should give you cab file.
install it in your TILT, run the program, change AUTO TO GSM
i used to have 2 bars NOW I HAVE 4 FULL BARS
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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Hi:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does this also disable 3G/hsdpa?
Thanks and MERRY CHRISTMAS to you too

fredm said:
Here is an interesting observation. I have noticed the signal strength (HTC Kaiser branded, with the ATT carrier), for the most part has been averaging 2 to 3 bars. While at a local ATT store, I noticed the Tilt, 2 display models, were both displaying 4 bars, while mine, (HTC) branded only gave 2 bars. Now add another customer that also had a branded HTC Kaiser, his displayed the same as mine. Yet both ATT Tilts were (4) bars. The rep. indicted that all the ATT Tilts have been tweaked!. I called HTC and they had no clue. Has anyone been aware of this difference?
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yep i have htc kaiser, same probelm, tried o2 simcard 2 bars same with 3g.Rang htc helpdesk they dont have a clue.many user generally one the net has this probelm.dont know what the fix is.

debu11 said:
yep i have htc kaiser, same probelm, tried o2 simcard 2 bars same with 3g.Rang htc helpdesk they dont have a clue.many user generally one the net has this probelm.dont know what the fix is.
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I too have tried 2 different SIM cards. I have also tried turning off 3G. Motorola V3xx shows 4 bars of service, while the Tilt (sitting in the same exact spot, at the same time), shows at most 2 bars, and sometimes even 0 bars.
My Treo 750 also always shows at least 2 bars, when the Tilt goes down to zero.
Very frustrating

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does this also disable 3G/hsdpa?
Thanks and MERRY CHRISTMAS to you too
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I installed this, and before i had it i aways got hspda, now w/it intstalled i only get 3g, i still have hspda enabled via kaiser tweak, but it doesn't show up, i'm in a hspda city(st. louis) i've had it for about a month or so now and cant get it w/this program installed, any fix for this? on the upside i do get more signal strength w/it. I"m using att tilt w/the tilt rom.

tag for increasing signal strength program

In the Kaiser Upgrading forum I added my two cents about this in the Radios thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1783489&postcount=96
It's been my experience that 3G/HSDPA has much better throughput than EDGE at a lower signal strength. "2 bars" of 3G reception still beats even "4 bars" of EVDO/EDGE.
Of course, if you want I could tweak the radio .dll to report 4 bars if it will make you feel better -- It's still 2 bars of 3G though. To use a much less flattering analogy it's the equivalent of me peeing on your back and telling you it's raining.

rob.ocelot said:
In the Kaiser Upgrading forum I added my two cents about this in the Radios thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1783489&postcount=96
It's been my experience that 3G/HSDPA has much better throughput than EDGE at a lower signal strength. "2 bars" of 3G reception still beats even "4 bars" of EVDO/EDGE.
Of course, if you want I could tweak the radio .dll to report 4 bars if it will make you feel better -- It's still 2 bars of 3G though. To use a much less flattering analogy it's the equivalent of me peeing on your back and telling you it's raining.
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I think the actual problem isn't that not enough bars are shown, I think the problem (at least for me) is terrible reception. At times, my phone goes down to zero bars, and sends all calls to voicemail. During this exact time, I can have a Moto V3xx and a Treo 750 sitting right next to the Tilt, and both will have at least 2 bars, and good call quality.
PS: My reception seems about the same with 3G on or off. Although I have seen many reports of 3G interfering with reception (ie. when it switches over), in my case turning 3G off completely hasn't helped at all.

HTC Kaiser/TytnII/Tilt Reception sucks!
I had an Mpx220 up until October 2007, which is when I purchased the AT&T Tilt. The VOICE reception on this phone is terrible! I get very low reception at home when I used to get full reception on my Mpx220 before! Also, whenever I'm on the speakerphone, the person on the other line has trouble hearing me. I called AT&T and had them exchange my bad phone. Once I got the new phone... THE SAME PROBLEMS!!!! I went back to my Mpx220 and the reception was wonderful on my Mpx! What's up with the Tilt? Also, the camera has a high resolution, but it takes about 5-6 seconds to take the picture once the button is pressed. Oh, and whenever I lose reception/signal completely and go back to an area where there is good signal, the phone will take FOREVER to recognize it's on a new signal area! Sometimes it doesn't even recognize this and I have to restart the phone. It sucks! This phone, so far, has been good in EVERYTHING except as a phone!!! BEWARE!

Signal very low...Kaiser problem?

Hello all,
I've noticed that with my Kaiser signal usually is very low, no more than two stands... otherwise with all my old phone, for example in my home, signal was full, also with htc touch dual of my friend.
Maybe can be usefull a radio update?
Thanks
Stefano

it could be displaying the 3G signal vs the gprs signal of your old phone...
try turning off 3G

itarix said:
it could be displaying the 3G signal vs the gprs signal of your old phone...
try turning off 3G
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Old phone was 3G and my operators supports 3G only...
Ste

My Tilt doesn't get very good reception either. When sitting next to a Motorola Razr V3xx (my Mom's phone), the Razr consistently has at least 2 bars, often 3 or 4 when in my house, but the Tilt has, at most 2 bars, and sometimes even loses signal completely. That never happens on the Motorola, but mine often goes straight to voicemail due to lack of signal.
Now, I realize a Razr and a Tilt are apples and oranges , but they are both 3G, so I would think signal should be comparable. Also, this is not a mattar of one phone simply displaying more bars, but of actual call quality.
I thought it may be a defect in my particular phone, but I have since done a warranty replacement for another issue, and was sent out a new one (it wasn't even a refurb). The new one has the same poor reception.
The Tilt is obviously a superior phone to a Razr in most ways. An ideas why call strength is so poor?
PS: I had a Treo 750 prior to the Tilt, and it too had good reception when in the exact same spot as the Tilt.

HSDPA -Poor Signal Strength and Constant Call Dropouts on Hutchison 3 Australia -Why?

Hi there,
Can anyone please assist?
Whenever I select a phone Band of WCDMA and am operating on HSDPA [H], my Touch Diamond which is on Hutchison 3's Network, has very poor reception whenever indoors and has lots of call dropouts. The phone shows just the dot below the Antenna Icon or just one bar to the right, most of the time while on HSDPA.
Whenever I select a phone Band of GSM, and the phone switches to an Edge connection [E] then I have nearly full signal strength, but this is considered "Roaming" off my network service provider and therefore is much more expensive to use. (What a scam!).
I have tried installing several radio ROM's but it has not made any difference to the signal strength and dropout problems. The Radio ROMs tried so far:
1.09.25.23 Official (Quad Band)(52.51.25.26H)
1.08.25.20 Official (Quad Band)(52.44.25.24H)
1.08.25.08 Official (Quad Band)(52.44.25.24U)
1.00.25.BS14 Official (Quad Band)
1.00.25.06
The phone has had this problem with HSDPA signals since I purchased it.
My questions are:
1. Have other people experienced this kind of issue and is poor reception indoors normal when on HSDPA [H]?
2. Is there a way to force a Touch Diamond, say through a registry hack, to use a Band of WCDMA but stay on [3G] instead of using [H] ?
3. Is it more likely that my phone is a good candidate for a warranty return as perhaps the antenna is dodgy?
4. Are there any other suggestions I can try to fix this problem?
Any guidance here is appreciated.
Thanks,
nanohaxor
HTC Touch Diamond (Telstra branded phone)
ROM: 1.93.861.4 WWE
Radio: 1.05.25.BS14
Network: Hutchison 3 Australia
DIAM130 MFG 64M
SPL-1.40.OliNex

nanohaxor said:
My questions are:
1. Have other people experienced this kind of issue and is poor reception indoors normal when on HSDPA [H]?
2. Is there a way to force a Touch Diamond, say through a registry hack, to use a Band of WCDMA but stay on [3G] instead of using [H] ?
3. Is it more likely that my phone is a good candidate for a warranty return as perhaps the antenna is dodgy?
4. Are there any other suggestions I can try to fix this problem?
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I love my Diamond and think that it is one of the best PDAs I have used. Its small size is just perfect for me, and I find other phones eg iPhone, Touch HD too big for me as a phone. I have customised it to the extent that I get no lag issues and it runs really fast.
The one flaw which I haven't been able to fix is its poor 3G/HSDPA reception compared to other phones like my previous Nokia. (The iPhone suffers from this problem also).
You obviously live or work in a poor 3G reception area for Three. When your phone switches from 3G to GSM, it will invariably drop the call if you are on a call. If the 3G reception is strong, indoors or outdoors, there will be no problems. 3G reception can fluctuate especially indoors. I dont think there is any fault with your phone.
Your options are to:
1) Change mobile phone provider
2) Force the phone to use GSM in low 3G signal areas and you will have no problems with call drop outs. There is no extra cost for roaming in GSM with Three for calls, only for data.
I use option 2, since I use WI-FI in the house for all my data needs. The easiest way to do this is to use Comm Manager, under Settings, Phone, Band, and then select GSM in 'Network Type' to force it to use GSM, or WCDMA to force it to use 3G/HSDPA. The other option is Auto, which is the cause of the problem. I use a hack which enables a '3G' toggle in Comm Manager so that I can change from 3G to GSM with the simple touch of a button.
You will also find that the battery life of the Diamond is really poor when it has to constantly change from 3G to GSM and vice versa. On the other hand, forcing it to use GSM and only switching on 3G when you use data, will actually prolong the battery life. I get up to 2+ days battery life when using GSM only.

Riker88 said:
I love my Diamond and think that it is one of the best PDAs I have used. Its small size is just perfect for me, and I find other phones eg iPhone, Touch HD too big for me as a phone. I have customised it to the extent that I get no lag issues and it runs really fast.
The one flaw which I haven't been able to fix is its poor 3G/HSDPA reception compared to other phones like my previous Nokia. (The iPhone suffers from this problem also).
You obviously live or work in a poor 3G reception area for Three. When your phone switches from 3G to GSM, it will invariably drop the call if you are on a call. If the 3G reception is strong, indoors or outdoors, there will be no problems. 3G reception can fluctuate especially indoors. I dont think there is any fault with your phone.
Your options are to:
1) Change mobile phone provider
2) Force the phone to use GSM in low 3G signal areas and you will have no problems with call drop outs. There is no extra cost for roaming in GSM with Three for calls, only for data.
I use option 2, since I use WI-FI in the house for all my data needs. The easiest way to do this is to use Comm Manager, under Settings, Phone, Band, and then select GSM in 'Network Type' to force it to use GSM, or WCDMA to force it to use 3G/HSDPA. The other option is Auto, which is the cause of the problem. I use a hack which enables a '3G' toggle in Comm Manager so that I can change from 3G to GSM with the simple touch of a button.
You will also find that the battery life of the Diamond is really poor when it has to constantly change from 3G to GSM and vice versa. On the other hand, forcing it to use GSM and only switching on 3G when you use data, will actually prolong the battery life. I get up to 2+ days battery life when using GSM only.
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Riker88, appreciate your comments and feedback. Thanks.
I tried my 3 SIM in another Touch Diamond and found the problem with poor HSDPA reception on Hutchison 3 was exactly the same on the other phone. This likely means it's the provider, or phone + provider combination. In either case, darn it !!
I generally operate with the phone band selection on WCDMA, rather than GSM or Auto. I noticed yesterday while driving around the city that my phone switched from the HSDPA (ie. 3.5G) service with the [H] icon on the screen to the 3G (ie. 3.0G) service with the [3G] icon on the screen, and the [3G] service signal was stronger. What I'm wondering is this:
Is there a way to force the Touch Diamond to use [3G] all the time, instead of [H]?
nanohaxor

nanohaxor said:
Riker88, appreciate your comments and feedback. Thanks.
I tried my 3 SIM in another Touch Diamond and found the problem with poor HSDPA reception on Hutchison 3 was exactly the same on the other phone. This likely means it's the provider, or phone + provider combination. In either case, darn it !!
I generally operate with the phone band selection on WCDMA, rather than GSM or Auto. I noticed yesterday while driving around the city that my phone switched from the HSDPA (ie. 3.5G) service with the [H] icon on the screen to the 3G (ie. 3.0G) service with the [3G] icon on the screen, and the [3G] service signal was stronger. What I'm wondering is this:
Is there a way to force the Touch Diamond to use [3G] all the time, instead of [H]?
nanohaxor
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From my understanding, you should get same radio signal strength no matter it is 3G or HSDPA enabled. Your observation may be your original signal (with HSDPA) is too weak and hand-over to another radio station that have stronger signal but no hsdpa.
I also notice that the 3G reception capability of diamond is weak. But this is nothing dealing with hsdpa.

snufkin wrote:
"I also notice that the 3G reception capability of diamond is weak. But this is nothing dealing with hsdpa. "
From what i've seen - that's true. (i have the same problem).

Diamond drops from HSDPA -> G/3G during calls

Hi all, I'm wanting to know if anyone else seems to be experiencing an issue where during a call the signal icon will change from H to G and the quality of reception / voice also drops to what resembles a non-3G phone.
This seems to happen quite often regardless if the call is inbound or outbound. I can be sitting at my desk and have what appears to be full reception with the H icon, then 2-3 minutes into a call (still sitting at my desk) the icon will change to G and from the quality degradation it must be reducing to 2G... why is this? I could understand if I was walking around but it happens regardless and will never go back up to H during a call only once the call has ended... is this a limitation of the cell network/carrier?
I'm using Dutty's v4, radio 1.09.25.23, Olinex 1.93 hardspl. Network carrier is Optus and I'm located right in the middle of the city - Melbourne, Australia.
I'm wanting to try some of the newer Raphel radios but need to get Security Unlocked first - already PM'd Olipro... just waitin
Any comments ?

Hi,
Same problem to me... downtown of the fifth biggest city in France...
Don't worry if I may say so: the phone is the problem. it has crappy reception, probably the crappiest of all time... I have tried any possible Radio ROM available, none of them changed a signle thing...
Worst HTC phone ever made for reception... All my friends with way cheaper phones have at least four to five bars when they are at my place, I don't get that... but all my other phones do.
Eve worse: the phone totally disconnects from network when I have one or two bars of H or 3G... I receive NO phone call, no SMS and I am notified two days later (30 voice msgs, fifty SMS... all sent two days ago). I even had issues at work becaus eof all this, people complained they couldn't reach me for hours and days...
I now have to set it back to G alone (switch off H or 3G that I want to use all the time...), which is a shame for such an advanced device...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not supposed to get a H during calls, maybe for video calls, I'm not sure. But for regular 3G calls, you shouldn't get a H, H should only appear when there is data transfer, like when using Internet for example.

vale|46 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not supposed to get a H during calls, maybe for video calls, I'm not sure. But for regular 3G calls, you shouldn't get a H, H should only appear when there is data transfer, like when using Internet for example.
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I'm not really qualified to comment except from my own experience... My phone always has the H symbol, when there is no data activity then the H symble is faded/semi transparent and becomes solid as soon as I make a call or transfer data (eg. updating weather) and I never have the 3G icon - always H or G. I belive this may be related to the operator and the frequencies they use for both HSDxA and 2G modes.
Probably for about 80% of my calls I'll keep the H symbol, but when it drops to G it's really annoying as the quality turns to sh*t

My phone never seems to be able to hold a signal.
I'm on the 3 network in Australia & my phone doesn't stick to the network. If I choose options under the phone and press 'find network' a couple of times it will lock on, but then minutes later I get the 'searching for network'. Over & over again.
My phone is unlocked using the Olinex method, my radio is current & I can't even recieve incoming calls or texts...outgoing is fine (when I've got network0 & I can use browse the internet & use GPS etc...just nothing incoming...

i have a theory on this its called " crap design"! i thinks its because the internal antenna is towards the bottom of the device so when you hold it you are covering the antenna.
try holding the phone with just two fingers trying not to cover the back (below the battery ) this works for me! i only say this out of observation

Could just be the way the network is configured for HSDPA. Voice traffic can be pushed on to 3G (or release 99 as it is sometimes called) to reduce the loading on the HSPDA carrier / layer.
See it as a good thing

Most handsets I have owned usually drop from HSDPA or 3G or GPRS during a voice call, probably just a design feature to save battery life. Should latch back on after call though. I have to say though, I had the MDA compact IV and the reception is positively shocking! dropping signal is soon as I picked it up and i'm in a good signal area! On its way back to T-MO as I speak as this wasn't the only issue. Shame, great form factor as well.

Symbols on your phone are just that symbolic, they don't always mean what you think they mean.
If a UE is on your desk in idle mode and it looks like you have a great signal and a H displayed, great. It means that it is measuring the quality of the network and you have the ABILITY to hold a HS data session should you want. The reception barrs on most 3g UE's aren't a measure of the radio reception but of the amount of noise. More bars less noise, less bars noisey environment.
If you make a voice call, there is no way any decent network would use HS to carry your call as it is wasting resource somebody else could use and of course pay for. Once in a call the UE has to monitor many things and also maintain that call or data session. In simplistic terms if the conditions do not allow the call to be carried over 3G it will step down to 2G. If it was a data session it could go from HSDPA to 3G, then 3G to GPRS.
Also a network could easily by the swap of a 1 or a 0 carry your voice call over 2G without you knowing at all, freeing up that 3G network that cost billions to roll out and pay licence fees for, for data which they can charge more for.

idrisito said:
i have a theory on this its called " crap design"! i thinks its because the internal antenna is towards the bottom of the device so when you hold it you are covering the antenna.
try holding the phone with just two fingers trying not to cover the back (below the battery ) this works for me! i only say this out of observation
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I think they made a mistake in the International English manual where it says the antenna is located at the bottom. Either that or it's different for different regional phones. If you download the HTC Touch Diamond_Asia_English_Manual_Manual_080521.pdf or HTC_Diamond_User_Manual_Asia_WWE.pdf from HTC's site, it shows the antenna being at the top next to the camera.

simpsoa said:
Hi all, I'm wanting to know if anyone else seems to be experiencing an issue where during a call the signal icon will change from H to G and the quality of reception / voice also drops to what resembles a non-3G phone.
This seems to happen quite often regardless if the call is inbound or outbound. I can be sitting at my desk and have what appears to be full reception with the H icon, then 2-3 minutes into a call (still sitting at my desk) the icon will change to G and from the quality degradation it must be reducing to 2G... why is this? I could understand if I was walking around but it happens regardless and will never go back up to H during a call only once the call has ended... is this a limitation of the cell network/carrier?
I'm using Dutty's v4, radio 1.09.25.23, Olinex 1.93 hardspl. Network carrier is Optus and I'm located right in the middle of the city - Melbourne, Australia.
I'm wanting to try some of the newer Raphel radios but need to get Security Unlocked first - already PM'd Olipro... just waitin
Any comments ?
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it's not the phone its the operator fault i have the same prob even with nokia's...if the person on the other part of the line is on gsm the operator will switch u on gsm network...they do this because they don't wont to use often the 3g network

DeadGuy said:
it's not the phone its the operator fault i have the same prob even with nokia's...if the person on the other part of the line is on gsm the operator will switch u on gsm network...they do this because they don't wont to use often the 3g network
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The operators do not do this. Do they switch you to a land line when you call a land line, no. It is all down to radio quality where you are making the call and not what number or type of line you are calling. The phone networks are not that intelligent

beaker656 said:
The operators do not do this. Do they switch you to a land line when you call a land line, no. It is all down to radio quality where you are making the call and not what number or type of line you are calling. The phone networks are not that intelligent
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Actually, they are, they know what types of numbers you're calling. This is why even for long distance prices, there is a different between calling a land line and a cellphone number. Either way, the system can tell what type of line you're connected to.

Signal strength bars fluctuating

Hi guys, I just got my Incredible S yesterday, and I absolutely love this phone!! The only problem so far is the fluctuating signal bars. I'm not sure if this topic has been discussed here, but it seems to me that when I hold the phone...my signal gets weaker. When I put the phone on down..the signal gets stronger. Does a rubber or silicone case help as far as limiting signal interference?

Are you talking wifi signal or 3g signal?

mrHD2 said:
Are you talking wifi signal or 3g signal?
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I'm talking about 3G/H. It's such a shame. I really liked this phone, but designing the antenna on the battery cover is a huge flaw. What were they thinking?!!??

I also have the signal strength fluctuations. I have tried everything: changing the SIM card, changing operators (Swisscom and Sunrise), changing settings GSM alone, WCDMA alone, and GSM/WCDMA auto, and soft reset. The only thing I have not yet tried is a hard reset.
I wonder if somebody else has the same problem? The consequence of this problem is that often times the quality of the calls is lousy and/or the calls are dropped.
Please help me..

Have to say, my signal level is dreadful compared to my bog standard Nokia mobile phone in low signal areas, I get no signal on my Inc S while 2 or sometimes 3 bars on my Nokia. It's really spoiling an otherwise brilliant device. One thing I was wondering is if changing radio from the 22_M to the 27_M might help, anybody know what the difference between them is ?
and, data does not work over 50% of the time on gprs, but fine on hsdpa/3g/edge, don't know if that's also down to poor signal reception ?

I had the same problem with my IS. when the internet connaction GSM/WCDMA auto i had many unexeptable call ends. I put the internet connection to GSM only and every thing is ok. Acording to info i have the problem is in some operaters new software when the network type changes the telefone cannot change it normaly.

After visiting other fora, I have a crucial question to ask: is the reception problem (fluctuating bars, dropped calls, WiFi disconnecting) a generalised problem, or, rather, is my phone faulty, and therefore should I have it repaired?

HTC update the radio module immediately....

atn_chargers said:
Hi guys, I just got my Incredible S yesterday, and I absolutely love this phone!! The only problem so far is the fluctuating signal bars. I'm not sure if this topic has been discussed here, but it seems to me that when I hold the phone...my signal gets weaker. When I put the phone on down..the signal gets stronger. Does a rubber or silicone case help as far as limiting signal interference?
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I also believe that the desire s has this same problem they are similarly designed devices now running with very similar software.
even though at times signal can be great without moving it can drop to nothing and I'll lose all signal, which I believe has caused me miss several calls as they've gone to voicemail rather than ring on the phone.
I'm hoping that an upgrade to the phones radio will fix/improve this over time (the optimistic outlook)
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App

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its the antenna design =Fail , put it flat on a desk and dont hold it and watch your signal go up pick it up and its like an hour glass going down

I am now arriving at the conclusion that sound quality and dropped calls (and bars fluctuating) can be explained by a connection problem when using GSM/WCDMA Auto. The problem disappears when using GSM Auto. Any views?

Same here, but it is better on "wcdma only" either. I'm suspectinig it has issues only when switching between wcdma and gsm