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Hi all.
I have folowing device:
OS 1.3.9.4 RUS
GSM 1.13.10
ExtRom 1.1.7.105
Date 9/29/05
1. After I install GSM ver.1.13.10, i have most discharging batary (short batary-life). It' not good. :-(
Question: Can I install now ver.1.12.10 (previosly installed)?
2. I have strange problem with GSM.
Phone indicator showing good coverage zone of GSM, but incoming calls may not be received (auto response from operator voice system). Only after I calling to any phone number from my device, incoming calls will be good.
Question: Can I do something, or it's hardware problem?
3. I have strange problem with GPRS.
When I turn device ON, GPRS works OK.
But, after some time (with no changing place, where I standing), device can't connect (!) to GPRS. Soft reset -> GPRS work good. After some time -> same problem. After reset -> good work.
Question: Can I do something, or it's hardware problem?
4. Can I do full ROM backup with any software?
I would like to have a FULL BACKUP on a case of warranty service. So that I could do upgrading on mu choice, but in case of breakage of the device that I could restore a BACKUP and give device to repair without superfluous claims from service-center to insertions.
Question: What software can do that?
1. That's true, Radio 1.13.10 works bad with OS 1.3.9.4. You should downgrade it to 1.12.10, file is here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/HTC_Wizard/Radio_Roms/
2. Try radio 1.12.10.
3. This is MTS(Moscow) problem. Still no way to fix it.
4. There is no public programm yet to backup full rom. But you can do it using SD-Card.
Button said:
4. There is no public programm yet to backup full rom. But you can do it using SD-Card.
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What?
How can I do a full backup using a SD-Card?
Button said:
4. There is no public programm yet to backup full rom. But you can do it using SD-Card.
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Also you can use aWizard 1.2, no cards.
But with aWizard, if I create a Backup I understood that I backup only the OS and not the entire ROM (tell me if I'm wrong).
The next question is: can I flash an I-Mate Rom and then (in case of need) reflash back my original ROM created with aWizard? After this I'll have a PDA like now?
3. My fried using I-Mate S110 on the same cellular provider (MTS-RUS, Moscow), and have no that problem. And I see him on ICQ (via GPRS) almost all time (24h).
I'm thinking, that problem is in the device (hard or soft).
I using GPRS versions: 1.10.0, 1.12.0, 1.13.0 and problem not resolved.
Maybe problem in OS? Or ExtROM?
Maybe I must install I-Mate ROM or T-Mobile ROM? Or something else? (what else for Q-9100-compatible?)
gnitvik said:
3. My fried using I-Mate S110 on the same cellular provider (MTS-RUS, Moscow), and have no that problem. And I see him on ICQ (via GPRS) almost all time (24h).
I'm thinking, that problem is in the device (hard or soft).
I using GPRS versions: 1.10.0, 1.12.0, 1.13.0 and problem not resolved.
Maybe problem in OS? Or ExtROM?
Maybe I must install I-Mate ROM or T-Mobile ROM? Or something else? (what else for Q-9100-compatible?)
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Yes, it is. There is no problem with Magician. But it was. It was fixed by new 'radio' release. But still no 'radio', which can fix it at Wizard.
Kostia said:
But with aWizard, if I create a Backup I understood that I backup only the OS and not the entire ROM (tell me if I'm wrong).
The next question is: can I flash an I-Mate Rom and then (in case of need) reflash back my original ROM created with aWizard? After this I'll have a PDA like now?
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1. You can find the following in its options description:
<b - Backup OS, Radio and Extended ROM from device>
May be it will not solid file. It seems to me it's convinient enough, you could experiment with different OS, radio ROMs and Extended ROMs.
2 . I guess yes. May be extept splash screen if it is different in I-mate ROM. Somebody already published link for clouds splash flash file.
vishny said:
1. You can find the following in its options description:
<b - Backup OS, Radio and Extended ROM from device>
May be it will not solid file. It seems to me it's convinient enough, you could experiment with different OS, radio ROMs and Extended ROMs.
2 . I guess yes. May be extept splash screen if it is different in I-mate ROM. Somebody already published link for clouds splash flash file.
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I don't doubt that it's fantastic to experiment different solutions....
If the only problem it's the splash screen I will reflash a WWE Qtek (ITA Qtek it's not on the FTP) and then reflash back my ROM with aWizard!
Thanks!
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I don't doubt that it's fantastic to experiment different solutions....
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My be you are right. But someone searches ROMs for better performance or stability etc.
I used this way to find radio ROM to fix MTS GPRS trouble. Unfortunately still with no success...
gnitvik said:
Hi all.
2. I have strange problem with GSM.
Phone indicator showing good coverage zone of GSM, but incoming calls may not be received (auto response from operator voice system). Only after I calling to any phone number from my device, incoming calls will be good.
Question: Can I do something, or it's hardware problem?
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Had the same problem with my S100, called t-mobile. They said if you have a constant GPRS connection this problem could arrise, so you have to close your gprs connection after use. (was not the problem in my case).
Another cause according to t-mobile was, if you have phone on constantly something went wrong in the network. They advised me to switch the phone-mode off once a day. And then turn it on again so it would register again in the network. This worked for me.
hope it helps.
Greets Migheltje
MTS is now working with this issue. Such a problem with GPRS\MMS exists now in all WM5 HTC devices.
Button: 13 Radio with the latest test ROM. Battery life seems to be much shorter than 1.6.7.9 with 12 Radio. Which OS version do you think suits 13 Radio to reach 1.1.7.9 with 12 radio battery life?
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bob]MTS is now working with this issue. Such a problem with GPRS\MMS exists now in all WM5 HTC devices.
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:shock: Please specify with which issue exactly? How about GPRS issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34138
This problem is in Qtek 9100/k-jam only, I guess it's because of EDGE support. I tried to flash various radio ROMs, it didn't help.
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bob]MTS is now working with this issue...
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Good news . Waiting for results...
Button: 13 Radio with the latest test ROM. Battery life seems to be much shorter than 1.6.7.9 with 12 Radio.
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What's the latest test ROM? Never heard about 1.6.7.9 before.. Is it russian one?
Which OS version do you think suits 13 Radio to reach 1.1.7.9 with 12 radio battery life?
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I don't really know, i refused 1.13 because of a bad work (frequent connection losses, 'abonent is not available now'...). It was tested with O2 1.5.4.2.
vishny said:
[CpD said:
bob]MTS is now working with this issue. Such a problem with GPRS\MMS exists now in all WM5 HTC devices.
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:shock: Please specify with which issue exactly? How about GPRS issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34138
This problem is in Qtek 9100/k-jam only, I guess it's because of EDGE support. I tried to flash various radio ROMs, it didn't help.
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Qtek 8300\8310 - the same problem.
Button said:
What's the latest test ROM? Never heard about 1.6.7.9 before.. Is it russian one?
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Russian one. Newer OS, IPL, SPL.
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bob]
Button said:
What's the latest test ROM? Never heard about 1.6.7.9 before.. Is it russian one?
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Russian one. Newer OS, IPL, SPL.
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And what the sense in newer IPL, SPL at all? What advantages?
I don't see them. New OS enables you to use BT-stereo hs, some changes in interface design - at a first glance
And where it is possible to find 1.6.7.9? :?:
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bob]...New OS enables you to use BT-stereo hs...
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It looks like AKU2, doesn't it? :?
Hi Guys,
thanks for the good job you'all are doing. Will appreciate whatever help i can get to resolve this issue with my phone. I have the HTC TYTN II which i recently upgraded to WM 6.1 using the official ROM which i donwloaded from HTC website. Since then i have noticed that sometimes it seems my phone is dialing itself or a call is coming in. The funny part is though every other function is working i wont be able to answer this phone. It will seem to hang. Then after a while i will get the cprog.exe error. To be able to make phone calls i have to soft reset the phone. i have had to hard reset my phone twice already with no solution. Also googling has not been able to provide any answer too. I just sent an email to HTC Technical support now but with experience i doubt if i will get any useful response. So this is my last resort.
It is also pertinent to note here too that intermittently i do get the tmail.exe errors.
Hi,
I am having the same problem after the upgrade..frequently its becoming stoned! requiring restart many time during the day...which was not the case before...anybody has got any solution???
I love my TyTn II but not the 6.1 ..its not stable!
azuka said:
Hi Guys,
I have the HTC TYTN II which i recently upgraded to WM 6.1 using the official ROM which i donwloaded from HTC website. ........ errors.
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Azuka, who so ever upgraded to 6.1 from HTC experienced the same problem even i myself suffered the same. So your only solution is to downgrade to 6 but before doing that you must HardSPL your phone ...
Two words... bad flash.
Regardless of what you might hear about WM 6.1 being unstable/unusable, it's simple NOT TRUE. Head over to the Kaiser Wiki, read up on flashing HardSPL (really read), and then once you have HardSPL'd your phone, flash a different ROM.
But please do not make the mistake of asking for recommendations on which ROM to use. The ROM that works best for me probably will not work best for you, in terms of programs loaded and cosmetically.
NotATreoFan said:
Two words... bad flash.
Regardless of what you might hear about WM 6.1 being unstable/unusable, it's simple NOT TRUE. Head over to the Kaiser Wiki, read up on flashing HardSPL (really read), and then once you have HardSPL'd your phone, flash a different ROM.
But please do not make the mistake of asking for recommendations on which ROM to use. The ROM that works best for me probably will not work best for you, in terms of programs loaded and cosmetically.
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Thanks for your reply. Your two words "Bad Flash" got me thinking. How could that be. I thought so too and had to re-download the file from htc website and re-installed.
About HardSPL'd your phone, from reading the wiki i now know what it is. But there is no instruction out there to HardSPL'd. Do i need to get the file and copy unto my phone or what?
thanks.
Head over to the Wiki, and under ROM Upgrading - Tools, I added an entry to HardSPL v3.xx. All the instructions needed are in that thread.
NotATreoFan said:
Head over to the Wiki, and under ROM Upgrading - Tools, I added an entry to HardSPL v3.xx. All the instructions needed are in that thread.
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Thanks for your help for far. This is an update of where i am today and a few questions i need your help to answer:
I took my phone into the retialer where i bought and who serve as the service center for HTC here in Doha, Qatar. They re-installed the WM 6.1 OS and so far i dont have the issues i was having before. However i do experience momentary screen freezes which eases off after a few second. Right the device information is as follows:
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM date: 05/02/08
Radio Version: 1.65.17.56
Protocol Version: 25.83.40.02H
Going into the bootloader the i see the following information:
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Which i believe confirms that the HardSPL is 3.28 - please correct me if i am wrong. Now my questions are as follows:
1. How do i resolve the momentary freezing?
2. Do i still need to do a HardSPL giving that mine is showing 3.28?
3. And your answer to do above is Yes which version do i need to do? 3.28 or 3.29 or even 3.56
Thank you once again.
azuka said:
Thanks for your help for far. This is an update of where i am today and a few questions i need your help to answer:
I took my phone into the retialer where i bought and who serve as the service center for HTC here in Doha, Qatar. They re-installed the WM 6.1 OS and so far i dont have the issues i was having before. However i do experience momentary screen freezes which eases off after a few second. Right the device information is as follows:
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM date: 05/02/08
Radio Version: 1.65.17.56
Protocol Version: 25.83.40.02H
Going into the bootloader the i see the following information:
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Which i believe confirms that the HardSPL is 3.28 - please correct me if i am wrong. Now my questions are as follows:
1. How do i resolve the momentary freezing?
2. Do i still need to do a HardSPL giving that mine is showing 3.28?
3. And your answer to do above is Yes which version do i need to do? 3.28 or 3.29 or even 3.56
Thank you once again.
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I have the freezing issues too. Two things has helped me reduce the frequency (and improve general responsiveness of the device):
1. I've disabled the HTC task manager application - that helps a lot on responsiveness
2. Each time I soft reset the phone, I manually kill the mstli.exe process - that helps a lot on the freezing issues.
regards,
Spip
Just to share some experiences
So I have the TyTN II and I recently upgraded to the official HTC WM6.1.
I have none of these problems of screen freezing, unstable rom, etc etc etc...
However, I do suffer from occasional program error message and asks me quite a few times to send the report to microsoft.
But this only happens when I load certain third party softwares and then close them down.
I attribute this to compatibility issues with WM6.1...maybe I'm wrong. But that's what I think anyway.
azuka said:
Going into the bootloader the i see the following information:
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Which i believe confirms that the HardSPL is 3.28 - please correct me if i am wrong. Now my questions are as follows:
1. How do i resolve the momentary freezing?
2. Do i still need to do a HardSPL giving that mine is showing 3.28?
3. And your answer to do above is Yes which version do i need to do? 3.28 or 3.29 or even 3.56
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You do not have HardSPL on your phone. You have SPL 3.28, which was flashed to your phone as part of the WM 6.1 upgrade. If you want to try out custom ROMs, you will still need to flash HardSPL 3.xx.
I recommend flashing HardSPL 3.56. It was ripped from an AT&T build, but seems to work great with all flavors of WM 6.1.
As for the freezing, it cannot be eliminated 100%. But with a good cooked ROM and the right HardSPL, you will rarely experience one.
I had this issue and it was just down to previous HardSPL being left at an early version (I think around 1.02) on the device and if you apply this latest HTC stock ROM update you get a bad flash and freezing especially in the threaded SMS app.
Install any HardSPL later than 3.00 then redo the ROM update and it should cure it.
Thanks guys. I just did the HardSPL 3.56 and re-installed the HTC official 6.1 ROM. So let's see how it goes.
Btw, HardSPL-ing is not as difficult as it seems though.
Right now the following is my configuration:
KAIS130
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
Device Information is as follows:
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM Date: 05/02/08
Radio version: 1.65.17.56
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
Thanks all.
NotATreoFan said:
You do not have HardSPL on your phone. You have SPL 3.28, which was flashed to your phone as part of the WM 6.1 upgrade. If you want to try out custom ROMs, you will still need to flash HardSPL 3.xx.
I recommend flashing HardSPL 3.56. It was ripped from an AT&T build, but seems to work great with all flavors of WM 6.1.
As for the freezing, it cannot be eliminated 100%. But with a good cooked ROM and the right HardSPL, you will rarely experience one.
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If I want to downgrade from official wm 6.1 to official wm 6.0 that is in xda, do I need a spl or hardspl ???
By the way, the problem I am having with WM 6.1 is support code 86000107, sync problem that until today don't see a solution
if u need upgrade or downgrade then u r speaking about a need for hardspl
dkiersz said:
If I want to downgrade from official wm 6.1 to official wm 6.0 that is in xda, do I need a spl or hardspl ???
By the way, the problem I am having with WM 6.1 is support code 86000107, sync problem that until today don't see a solution
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Just a quick update. After HardSPL-ing my phone it worked well for sometime then the tmail.exe error surfaced. I have only had the cprog.exe error - where a call comes in and i can not answer neither can i make another call until i soft reboot - has only happened once or twice. Apart from these the phone has been working well.
Anyway i just got a reply from my earlier mail to HTC and thought i should post if here for people's information. Apparently they are aware of these issues and working on them. Read for yourselves:
New Response From [ Maha Mamer (Qatar Support (Tech)) ]
Thank you for contacting HTC Corporation Middle East Support Dear Mr. Felix First of all we are very sorry for our late reply Please, if your problem still exist with this error message, you can try one of two options. 1- go to Start> Settings> System(tab)> error reporting> and disable the error reporting option. 2- If this did not solve your problem, then you might need to get back to WM6.0 until we finish our update for the new release of WM6.1 with the new modification for our web site. Please do not hesitate to contact us back for any inquires. Please note that you could also contact us by phone on our hot lines. http://www.htc.com/mea-en/CA_Hotline.aspx?region=MEA Sincerely, thank you for choosing HTC Corporation HTC Corporation Middle East Support Team http://www.htc.com/mea-en/default.aspx
Just an observation here:
After reading somewhere on these pages that the erratic behavior of TYTN II could be due to bluetooth adapter i decided to go some days without my Motorola S9 bluetooth ear piece i am yet to experience any of the issues i had before. Could the bluetooth software for WM 6.1 be the issue?
Momentary Freezing - Resolved?
azuka said:
Thanks guys. I just did the HardSPL 3.56 and re-installed the HTC official 6.1 ROM. So let's see how it goes.
Btw, HardSPL-ing is not as difficult as it seems though.
Right now the following is my configuration:
KAIS130
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
Device Information is as follows:
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM Date: 05/02/08
Radio version: 1.65.17.56
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
Thanks all.
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Did you ever resolve your momentary freezing issues? I have a new TYTN II that I upgraded to WM 6.1. I used hardspl 1.0 to do that but after reading numerous posts, I loaded HArdspl 3.28. After installing hardSPL 3.28, the 5 second freezes are less frequent but happen everyday.
I am not sure where to go from here? load another HSPL? Reload '3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) ' ROM?
As you know these pauses are very annoying.
Tytn II - Kaiser
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM Date: 05/02/08
Radio version: 1.65.16.25
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
wa4cbg said:
Did you ever resolve your momentary freezing issues? I have a new TYTN II that I upgraded to WM 6.1. I used hardspl 1.0 to do that but after reading numerous posts, I loaded HArdspl 3.28. After installing hardSPL 3.28, the 5 second freezes are less frequent but happen everyday.
I am not sure where to go from here? load another HSPL? Reload '3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) ' ROM?
As you know these pauses are very annoying.
Tytn II - Kaiser
ROM Version: 3.28.405.0 WWE
ROM Date: 05/02/08
Radio version: 1.65.16.25
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
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Actually the freezing is barely existent. Even the other issues seemed to have disappeared since i stopped using my bluetooth.
How to Stop Momemtary Freezing
azuka said:
Actually the freezing is barely existent. Even the other issues seemed to have disappeared since i stopped using my bluetooth.
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I am looking for a solution. Not using Blue tooth to use a device that costs over 600.00 just doesn't make sense to me.
Is there a ROM hardSPL combination that will give me freeze-free performance or is this an HTC problem that is not solvable. I just can't believe that every Kaiser user that has upgraded to wm 6.1 has the same issue that I have with momentary freezes that last up to 5 seconds.
Is the solution another ROM, another Hspl, another phone? Who can help me resolve this issue? Is there a better place to post this?
Thank you
Freezes and locks.
Prior to my upgrading my AT&T Tilt to WM6.1 which I did today. I was experiancing LONG freezes, listening to music or just waiting for menus. I could not determine any specific software that was the cause. I tend to install a lot. Did a hard reset, didn't install the AT&T bloat, reinstalled my primary apps MS Voice Command 1.6 (a Must). Still same issues... Occationally could NOT answer calls. Hit the green button, or the answer option on screen. the onscreen 'answer' would flash, but I could not use the phone until a soft reset. LONG process when you are waiting for a call back.
AT&T sent me a new phone which I got and installed the NEW wm 6.1 before anything. Worked pretty well, but I had not made any calls or recieved any all day. I did listen to several hours of music on my Motorola S9 headset and made sure Audible Player would work. Two apps I use daily.
All seems well, except NOW I get the cprog.exe error. I decided to test my phone with a simple incoming call. Before I ended it, it went dead. Not sure what the HardSPL is yet. Will look into that. Just thought I'd let others know that the lag, AT&T seemed to think was a hardware issue so they replaced my Tilt.
Software installed; MS Voice Command 1.6, Live Search, Audible Player, TCPMP, FlashBundle, GPSToday. Pretty much it besides the AT&T bloat that came with the ROM. Good luck
I have installed
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
ROM date: 07/17/08
Radio version 1.65.21.18
Protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
I used the recommend method to have the bloatware not install by removing the battery before customization begins but when the device restarts it resets back to the welcome screen all over again. The only way I was able to more forward was to allow the customization script to finish. Any ideas on how to prevent the customization?
You are supposed to soft reset, not rip out the battery
BTW where did you get this rom?
macman005 said:
I have installed
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
ROM date: 07/17/08
Radio version 1.65.21.18
Protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
I used the recommend method to have the bloatware not install by removing the battery before customization begins but when the device restarts it resets back to the welcome screen all over again. The only way I was able to more forward was to allow the customization script to finish. Any ideas on how to prevent the customization?
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I've done the soft reset just seconds before "The device will customize in 3 sec". It worked for me. I don't know how, cause people saying that this doesn't work anymore on WM6.1. But you can try. This works for me.
Cheers,
Chris
I've noticed on a lot of 6.1 ROMS if you press soft reset during the customization phase it actually hard resets the phone and makes you go through the whole process again
Hm, where did you get this ROM from?
macman005 said:
I have installed
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
ROM date: 07/17/08
Radio version 1.65.21.18
Protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
I used the recommend method to have the bloatware not install by removing the battery before customization begins but when the device restarts it resets back to the welcome screen all over again. The only way I was able to more forward was to allow the customization script to finish. Any ideas on how to prevent the customization?
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macman005 said:
I have installed
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
ROM date: 07/17/08
Radio version 1.65.21.18
Protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
I used the recommend method to have the bloatware not install by removing the battery before customization begins but when the device restarts it resets back to the welcome screen all over again. The only way I was able to more forward was to allow the customization script to finish. Any ideas on how to prevent the customization?
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Where did you get the final release?
He probably got a new Tilt that is shipping with 6.1. If that's the case, I hereby order him to perform a hard reset, and then proceed to dump the ROM for all of use to enjoy.
A friend of mine got one on the 13th with 6.0 on it.
EDIT--
There is a link on ATT's site that gives me the option to download the 6.1 rom for the tilt. I can't download at work though and I'm sure it's been said somewhere that it's a haox or something but here it is.
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=68&cat=2&dl_id=68
Download: AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6.1 Software (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE)
Date Updated: 08/05/2008
File Size: Approximately 88 M
macman005 said:
I have installed
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
ROM date: 07/17/08
Radio version 1.65.21.18
Protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
I used the recommend method to have the bloatware not install by removing the battery before customization begins but when the device restarts it resets back to the welcome screen all over again. The only way I was able to more forward was to allow the customization script to finish. Any ideas on how to prevent the customization?
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I think this guy is bogus because the radio version an protocol version differ from the supposed specs of the new ROM. So the ROM version should be different.
Im not very ROM savvy. But I think the claim of the poster being non legit is not called for. I have seen this ROM being posted on the HTC site from many different forums. Its sortve official from what I gather, meaning something about a tester ROM(?). Ive seen several places where this ROM was able to be downloaded from HTC. Although it was removed from their site recently.
ProudPop83 said:
Im not very ROM savvy. But I think the claim of the poster being non legit is not called for. I have seen this ROM being posted on the HTC site from many different forums. Its sortve official from what I gather, meaning something about a tester ROM(?). Ive seen several places where this ROM was able to be downloaded from HTC. Although it was removed from their site recently.
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The ROM in question was never available on HTC's site. There was a page that listed it as available, but the download link pointed to the 1.62.xx.xx ROM update from February 2008.
And I also agree that the non-legit claim was uncalled for.
Perhaps if the original poster realizes that the only way he or anyone is going to get a bloat-free rom is to have a copy posted and someone strip the bloatware out. As someone mentioned, soft reseting before the 3 second timeout produces a hard reset. They must have read this web site. I am a Tilt user eagerly waiting for the release, but I will still have to wait until is is cleaned out, similar to the Almost Official III w/o Bloatware.
ProudPop83 said:
Im not very ROM savvy. But I think the claim of the poster being non legit is not called for. I have seen this ROM being posted on the HTC site from many different forums. Its sortve official from what I gather, meaning something about a tester ROM(?). Ive seen several places where this ROM was able to be downloaded from HTC. Although it was removed from their site recently.
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You are probably right I should not have made such a call. He indeed may have the ROM. If I may elaborate.
Latest test rom form AT&T
ROM Version 3.55.502.1 WWE
ROM date 06/10/08
Radio version 1.65.20.29
Protocol version 25.88.40.04H
Supposed ROM to be Released at HTC. Click here for link.
ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE
ROM date 07/17/08
Radio version 1.65.17.10
Protocol version 25.83.40.02H
HIS version
ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE
ROM date 07/17/08
Radio version 1.65.21.18
Protocol version 25.88.40.05H
I would think that if HTC changed the radio and protocol as shown in his version. Would they not change the ROM version such as 3.58.502.2? Even more so because they have created two ROM's on the same date?
It could be possible the the information posted on the HTC web site is wrong, Maybe to possibly confuse us.
I got a brand new Tilt on Aug 21. I had 6.0 installed. I hope the update comes out Monday, but now I'm not sure. The stores here in New Orleans only have Tilts with 6.0.
ourtech said:
...As someone mentioned, soft reseting before the 3 second timeout produces a hard reset...
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Ummm... no it doesn't.
NotATreoFan said:
The ROM in question was never available on HTC's site. There was a page that listed it as available, but the download link pointed to the 1.62.xx.xx ROM update from February 2008.
And I also agree that the non-legit claim was uncalled for.
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See I didn't know it pointed to the upgrade earlier this year. I just saw many people had posted about on a few forums.
NotATreoFan said:
Ummm... no it doesn't.
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I don't wish to disagree with you as you are a much more experienced user than I am, but I flashed the Almost Official III rom and repeated the process 5 times. If you soft-reset before the count down completes it does a hard reset and brings you back to the same spot as brfore and reruns the custom configuration. I tried this before the count down and during the running of the custom configuration with the same results. It is why I then loaded the stripped version. Note, I HAVE used the reset trick very successfully with WM 6.0.
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I don't wish to disagree with you as you are a much more experienced user than I am, but I flashed the Almost Official III rom and repeated the process 5 times. If you soft-reset before the count down completes it does a hard reset and brings you back to the same spot as brfore and reruns the custom configuration. I tried this before the count down and during the running of the custom configuration with the same results. It is why I then loaded the stripped version. Note, I HAVE used the reset trick very successfully with WM 6.0.
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It won't perform a hard reset, it just brings you back to that same screen over and over and over unless you let it go. That and hard reset are completely different.
One way i found to stop the bloatware loading is to let the customization begin, but as soon as it starts loading the first thing, do a soft reset, it won't restart it again
Not important..
Yusuke14 said:
One way i found to stop the bloatware loading is to let the customization begin, but as soon as it starts loading the first thing, do a soft reset, it won't restart it again
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You are right. It does not repeat once you start the customization, but I did find some bloatware installed. Perhaps I was not fast enough. But before, when it brings you to the same screen over and over again, it says "clearing storage." It is my understanding that the clear storage program in settings does the same as a hard reset, namely to reset to factory defaults. If they are different, then I am wrong.
Dear all Kaiser anchestor,
I have a problem with my Kaiser. I really hope that all of you can help me. Ok? Please....
This is the problem :
At the begining, My HTC Kaiser run so slowly, sometimes freezing (Condition WM 6.1 with it's SPL 1.56)
After I read the same problem in jockyw2001 thread, then I tried to flash My device SPL to 3.28 (with the step in front of that thread and the SPL from that thread too)
Flashing the SPL to 3.28 was successfully and my device run fast now
BUT!!! I can't Enabled my WiFi!
Next, I tried to Re-Flash my SPL to 1.56 again, and it's done successfully. But, the WiFi still can't be enable.
Next step, I tried to downgrade the ROM to WM 6, and WHAT!
I still can't Enable my WiFi!
Now, I'd upgrade to WM6.1 again (official ROM from HTC website). But, the WiFi still can't be enable.
The condition when I enable the WiFi is loading then turn off by itself. What's the problem?
I really need all of your help for this.
This is my Device Information:
ROM Version :3.29.707.0 WWE
ROM Date : 05\07\08
Radio Version :1.65.16.25
Protocol Version : 25.83.40.02H
After upgrade to WM6.1, My Bootloader now is:
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.0000
CPLD-8
I'm stress already. Hope all you may spare some of your time for help me to solve the problem. Thanks before. For more detail, just watch the video that I record when tried to enable the wifi.
The url is : http://www.andrylim.com/others/WifiProblem.wmv
Whats wrong with running the HTC upgrade on your HTC original TyTN II?
andrylim said:
After upgrade to WM6.1, My Bootloader now is:
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.0000
CPLD-8
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Since you're interested in running the official HTC WM 6.1 version on your TyTN II then why not simply run the HTC Upgrade program which will reinstall everything required (SPL, Radio and ROM) in one easy go rather than have to upgrade this and that, bit by bit? If you have an official TyTN II you can get it from HTCs e-Club/Support or you can also download it from the XDA Kaiser Wiki ROM page. Note that my SPL is 3.28.0000 and thats all through the official upgrade path so maybe your SPL has something to do with it? See if the official upgrade installs on your device otherwise you'll have to revert to the correct SPL before trying again. Note that the newest WWE ROM upgrade now also comes with a (slightly) better radio as in my sig. Remember to take your sim and memory cards out before attempting the flash.
***Edit*** Just realised you're running the SEA rather than WWE HTC ROM I'm using so yes 3.29 looks to be the right SPL for your ROM, the rest still applies though.
Hmm...
Sorry Mr Flying Kiwi, I think you didn't read the message completely. I've already re-flash from OFFICIAL ROM WM6.1 from HTC e-Club. But, the same problem. It's not fix yet. I've reflash over than 5 times, downgrade to WM6 over than 2 times. an the result is the same. My WiFi Cannot be enable. I hope you can play the video that i record from the links up there (440kb only), so you will know my problem.
Thanks for your reply Boss!
or this one
The url is : http://www.andrylim.com/others/WifiProblem.wmv
Flying Kiwi said:
Since you're interested in running the official HTC WM 6.1 version on your TyTN II then why not simply run the HTC Upgrade program which will reinstall everything required (SPL, Radio and ROM) in one easy go rather than have to upgrade this and that, bit by bit? If you have an official TyTN II you can get it from HTCs e-Club/Support or you can also download it from the XDA Kaiser Wiki ROM page. Note that my SPL is 3.28.0000 and thats all through the official upgrade path so maybe your SPL has something to do with it? See if the official upgrade installs on your device otherwise you'll have to revert to the correct SPL before trying again. Note that the newest WWE ROM upgrade now also comes with a (slightly) better radio as in my sig. Remember to take your sim and memory cards out before attempting the flash.
***Edit*** Just realised you're running the SEA rather than WWE HTC ROM I'm using so yes 3.29 looks to be the right SPL for your ROM, the rest still applies though.
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Use the official upgrade package - not just the rom file
andrylim said:
Sorry Mr Flying Kiwi, I think you didn't read the message completely. I've already re-flash from OFFICIAL ROM WM6.1 from HTC e-Club.
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I read it alright but as you've not done it *using the officially supplied HTC upgrade package (not just the ROM file within it from HTC e-Club)* I reccomend you give that a try. No special hard spl version is reqd and as long as you have an official ROM to start with and you're upgrading or reinstalling the same ROM version, it's simply a case of running one file and following the instructions. Once you've got the reflash to run that way and completed the process, simply hard reset and then test your Wifi before installing anything further.
But, the same problem. It's not fix yet. I've reflash over than 5 times, downgrade to WM6 over than 2 times. an the result is the same. My WiFi Cannot be enable. I hope you can play the video that i record from the links up there (440kb only), so you will know my problem.
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Perhaps the capturing program over Activesync may be interfering with things (but I did view your wmv). What I am sure of is that if you have the correct ROM matched to your device and correctly installed with the right spl and radio, Wifi should work fine. Running the official upgrade is the easiest way to get this but if there is something non-official about your current setup, the upgrade program may refuse to run. Let us know if that happens. It's clear that you didn't do this in the beginning because you ended up with the wrong spl version for your rom so it's time to do it the official 'HTC Customer' way.
Hahaha.... thanks for your information. I'd tried yesterday. And still no response. ugh.... Btw, I've read from another thread (Athena). They said that someone ever got a problem like this. The cause is the WiFi MAC Address is missing/erased? Is it possible? I thought that MAC Address is a serial number of WiFi such as an IP, where saved in WiFi chip/device and cannot be erase. If do so, how to set an MAC address to the WiFi module? Do you have an idea? I'd tried to have a silly search about that address in Registry, but I cannot find any key that sounds about MAC Address. (Mac Gyver maybe?)
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I read it alright but as you've not done it *using the officially supplied HTC upgrade package (not just the ROM file within it from HTC e-Club)* I reccomend you give that a try. No special hard spl version is reqd and as long as you have an official ROM to start with and you're upgrading or reinstalling the same ROM version, it's simply a case of running one file and following the instructions. Once you've got the reflash to run that way and completed the process, simply hard reset and then test your Wifi before installing anything further.
Perhaps the capturing program over Activesync may be interfering with things (but I did view your wmv). What I am sure of is that if you have the correct ROM matched to your device and correctly installed with the right spl and radio, Wifi should work fine. Running the official upgrade is the easiest way to get this but if there is something non-official about your current setup, the upgrade program may refuse to run. Let us know if that happens. It's clear that you didn't do this in the beginning because you ended up with the wrong spl version for your rom so it's time to do it the official 'HTC Customer' way.
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andrylim said:
Hahaha.... thanks for your information. I'd tried yesterday. And still no response. ugh...
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I was offering serious advice not pulling your leg. Now, when you say 'still no response yet' - precisely what do you mean (exactly what did you try and what happened)? I've flashed my Kaisers ROM a couple of times now using HTC official ROM upgrading packages and it's gone perfectly fine. As far as the MAC address goes, I know there are ways of changing it (because there is an extremely small possibility that you may end up with two identical MAC adresses on the same network and this will cause problems) but this won't be the culprit in your case. I think (again) the first thing to do is to use the official package (and only that - no additional tools/utilities are reqd) to get everything in order and let us know how that goes and what versions of everything you end up with.
This is the information that appears in my device now after re-upgrade the official ROM from HTC e-Club:
File name : RUU_Kaiser_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.29.707.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.exe
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.0000
CPLD-8
ROM version : 3.29.707.0 WWE
ROM date : 05/07/08
Radio version : 1.65.16.25
Protocol version : 25.83.40.02H
Btw, may i ask a question? I found something strange about a MAC address. Yesterday I'm not intention open the "Wireless LAN" from Settings > Connections > Wireless LAN
In Advance tab, there are Status, MAC, and IP. My Question is is the MAC address serial appears even you didn't enable a WiFi? In my device it's empty.
Btw, bro... I've been search a problem like this in this website. I've found the same problem in Athena thread. They said that the MAC address is missing, but some one make a fix but only for Athena.
this their URL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387454&highlight=Athena+WiFi+Problem&page=5
Thanks & sorry if i waste your time in solving my wifi problem
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I was offering serious advice not pulling your leg. Now, when you say 'still no response yet' - precisely what do you mean (exactly what did you try and what happened)? I've flashed my Kaisers ROM a couple of times now using HTC official ROM upgrading packages and it's gone perfectly fine. As far as the MAC address goes, I know there are ways of changing it (because there is an extremely small possibility that you may end up with two identical MAC adresses on the same network and this will cause problems) but this won't be the culprit in your case. I think (again) the first thing to do is to use the official package (and only that - no additional tools/utilities are reqd) to get everything in order and let us know how that goes and what versions of everything you end up with.
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andrylim said:
This is the information that appears in my device now after re-upgrade the official ROM from HTC e-Club:
File name : RUU_Kaiser_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.29.707.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.exe
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.0000
CPLD-8
ROM version : 3.29.707.0 WWE
ROM date : 05/07/08
Radio version : 1.65.16.25
Protocol version : 25.83.40.02H
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That looks right to me but if you haven't yet ran the upgrade file above to flash to ROM you need to do it the official way and try that. If Wifi is still behaving as in your video do a hard reset and try again (before loading any additional software).
Btw, may i ask a question? I found something strange about a MAC address. Yesterday I'm not intention open the "Wireless LAN" from Settings > Connections > Wireless LAN
In Advance tab, there are Status, MAC, and IP. My Question is is the MAC address serial appears even you didn't enable a WiFi? In my device it's empty.
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In mine it's empty too but if you go back in after enabling Wifi, theres a MAC address in there. I really don't think your problem has anything to do with the MAC address but if you've tried all of the above and still can't get it working, as you appear to have an official setup, it's time to contact Tech support and get them to go through some checks over the phone with you. Maybe someone else has thoughts on this......
Hahaha... thanks. Btw, I have another problems.
I bought this device from other country (Singapore). My friends said, the Singapore HTC can view the device history. They can see if the device already being flash how many times and anything unofficial program such as SPL or radio, then the warranty wil be void. Because, my friends already have such a problem also with his device Dopod U1000 (Even he revert to his original SPL or radio).
I think i should throw this device or sell it out and buy the new one. Hiks...
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That looks right to me but if you haven't yet ran the upgrade file above to flash to ROM you need to do it the official way and try that. If Wifi is still behaving as in your video do a hard reset and try again (before loading any additional software).
In mine it's empty too but if you go back in after enabling Wifi, theres a MAC address in there. I really don't think your problem has anything to do with the MAC address but if you've tried all of the above and still can't get it working, as you appear to have an official setup, it's time to contact Tech support and get them to go through some checks over the phone with you. Maybe someone else has thoughts on this......
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andrylim said:
I think i should throw this device or sell it out and buy the new one. Hiks...
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Doesn't it make sense to at least try what's been suggested first? What have you to loose? The hardware company have no need to know what 'ROM Action' has occurred in the past and who knows what any people you've leant your TyTN II to may have done with it..... They only need to know how it is now and whether it's currently official (ie flashed using the HTC upgrader).
andrylim said:
I think i should throw this device or sell it out and buy the new one. Hiks...
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I'll give you $50 for it.
The same problem
Im having the same problem... my wi-fi do not turns on! I have flashed this a lot of times, and sometimes works, sometimes dont.
Does anyone have any ideia about this? im stressed becouse i have the same problem... could anyone tellme a good radio in order to try to solve this issue? thanks
Wi-Fi issues
This has worked for me, dont know if its the same case with you or not.
My device was never able to connect to my Wifi n/w at home. If I went to start -> setting -> connections -> Wifi, it would show my home n/w as available, when I tried to connect to it, the status changed from Available to "connecting" then became available again.
In my home n/w I had access type authentication as WEP keys + Mac address filtering. My device was added to the MAC address list so that was not a problem. The issue was access point authentication which was set to WEP keys type authentication on my router. Once I changed from WEP keys to WPA-PSK (data encryption type TKIP) my WM was able to connect to the router.
I have HTC tytn II and its wifi is not searching any other wifi devices or router even in very close range , but wifi is turning on and the green light is also blinking
So, is there a hardware problem?
I did 3.29 hard spl , hard reset ,hard spl 3.34 , but the result is same.
and in network adapters IEEE 802.1b/g goes down and down in the list of network adapters , please HELP.! and sorry for my bad english
try a newer radio
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try a newer radio
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Currently the Radio Version is 1.70.18.02
before this Radio Version I had 1.65.*.*
Firstly...I'm with 3 in Australia
Ok, bought a TYTN II off ebay some months ago now from a Hong Kong dealer (that'll learn me) and it seems to not work with the 3G network here in Australia. The phone is always EDGE roaming and whenever it switches to 3G I can't send or receive SMS messages.
I've done some reading around and found that maybe I need to flash the ROM of the phone to an Australian one so that the phone will work properly. I found a thread on Whirlpool and someone there posted a link to this ROM for another user:
www.mediafire.com/?0jt1cwyx61g
Is that the ROM I want? If so, how do I go about flashing my phone with this ROM to make it work?
Can anyone help me??
You're more than likely having issues with the radio that came with the phone. Go to the ROM development forum, read how to unlock, install HardSPL, etc.. and then choose either one of the ROMs that come with a new radio available: NATF, Hyperdragon, Dutty's, etc... or look at one of the threads that show how to install a new radio. I'm not going to make any ROM recommendations, because it's really a matter of personal taste and how the ROM feels to you. For me personally, I've settled on T.i.R vk8 WWE build 19971. And I have radio version 1.58.25.17.
Hey dude,
congrats on the kick-ass new phone.
To help you with your prob, you'll have to signup and login to HTC E-Club for Australia, then download and flash the latest 3 ROM. Its the only way to ensure you have the correct inbuilt three network settings, there was a cab floating around a while back but it didn't include planet3 connectivity - only mobile internet.
look for this one :
HTC TyTN II WM6.1 ROM code for Hutchison ‘3’ Network customers
ROM version: 3.29.861.0
ROM date: 05/15/08
Radio version: 1.65.16.25
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
Date: 2008-06-02 Category: ROM Upgrade
I found the ROM development page and the list of radios that relate to the specific ROM's match the ones I already have (note: I already flashed my phone using the one in the link I provided in my first post).
I went and registered for HTC E-Club and went to download the WM6.1 ROM u mentioned Sanchez and when I entered the Serial Number it says the ROM is unsuitable for my phone. Is this because it is NOT an Australian phone?
Would this ROM actually work on my phone and would I be able to get a copy of it from somewhere else?
yeah, its not the actual ROM so much as the stuff Three bundle within that you need.
I'm aka Dr.Nerdlinger on whirlpool, a guy I recommended this to didn't have any problems, seemed to make his US Tilt into an Aussie Three TyTnII.. Havent tried it myself as Im already three branded.
http://www.andrewjstevens.com/2008/06/a-new-att-tytn-ii-tilt-by-htc/
from : whirlpool thread
How did you go Morphio, did that link help out any ?
Umm nah, I've also tried a much newer 3.29.861.0 ROM and that didnt help.
I dont know what to do
Morphio said:
Umm nah, I've also tried a much newer 3.29.861.0 ROM and that didnt help.
I dont know what to do
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I have the latst official shipped TyTnII 3 ROM (WM 6.1) for Australia.
ie:
TyTN II_AUS Hutch_WM6.1_Upgrade_20080602 (may 2008)
Can't recall where I found it. I am fairly certain it was on this site
If you cannot find it through searchLet me know if you still need it.
Official 3 ROM
Morphio said:
Firstly...I'm with 3 in Australia
Ok, bought a TYTN II off ebay some months ago now from a Hong Kong dealer (that'll learn me) and it seems to not work with the 3G network here in Australia. The phone is always EDGE roaming and whenever it switches to 3G I can't send or receive SMS messages.
I've done some reading around and found that maybe I need to flash the ROM of the phone to an Australian one so that the phone will work properly. I found a thread on Whirlpool and someone there posted a link to this ROM for another user:
www.mediafire.com/?0jt1cwyx61g
Is that the ROM I want? If so, how do I go about flashing my phone with this ROM to make it work?
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Dude... found it in seconds on google
Link to the ROM download
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7J3L5LEE
I have flashed this ROM anytime I've had problems with others and it has always worked.
One question though, did Juvs Network Wizard not find 3 for you or it failed in some other way?
Congrats on your purchase and hope get as much out of it as I have
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I have the latst official shipped TyTnII 3 ROM (WM 6.1) for Australia.
ie:
TyTN II_AUS Hutch_WM6.1_Upgrade_20080602 (may 2008)
Can't recall where I found it. I am fairly certain it was on this site
If you cannot find it through searchLet me know if you still need it.
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This is the same one I used (3.29.861.0) and nothing seems to have changed, still doesnt register on 3G network
Morphio said:
This is the same one I used (3.29.861.0) and nothing seems to have changed, still doesnt register on 3G network
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Damn! Sorry...
The ROM I posted the link to doesn't ask me for a "serial" when I've flashed it..
I assume you have run the Connection Setup wizard (Settings > Connections > Connection Setup?
Have you tried to manually enter 3's settings?
Perhaps flash the latest Hyperdragon III http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121
It has a suitable radio for Australia and I flashed this recently on a TyTn II purchased in Malaysia and all worked fine (as did the ROM I referred to earlier)
Ok but to flash to that (being a cooked ROM) dont I have to do something before I can flash to that? Is it HardSPL I have to install or something like that?
Yes... Unlock and flash a hard spl...
It is quite easy
Excellent directions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
I am in no way an expert with these devices but I have had no problem that hasn't been quickly resolved.
perhaps unlocking the phone may resolve your problem with flashing the 3 shipped ROM.... (again, no expert here)
Ok seems this is not gonna work. I've done some reading and apparently the board it to blame for my phone not working properly. Since it was an eBay job (but from a company) I can still get warranty but I have to send overseas to HK.
What do people think, I can buy a new TytnII for $659 and when the old one comes back from warranty I can sell it. Would the new one (if I bought from Australian store) work on 3G?
Unless it's faulty hardware, it shouldn't need a return. Don't spend your cash just yet
Try this new official 3.34.721.2 WWE HTC rom, with 1.70 radio.
Download it, plug your activesync cable in, run the exe file you downloaded - after 20 mins or so, you should have the latest ROM, with built in Aus Three Network detection (assuming you have a legal 3 sim-card)
(ps. it may seem like its stalled while flashing, but just give it time)
Report back if successful
Downloaded and installed last night - doesnt seem to have made any difference
sigh...
Morphio said:
Downloaded and installed last night - doesnt seem to have made any difference
sigh...
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After Flashing a ROM you should always hard reset the device as well. After all this is done, what versions of the following are showing as being installed: ROM, Radio, SPL (can find the last one in the tri colour boot screen - read the wiki if you need to know how to get to the boot screen)? If all of this is showing correctly and you're still having problems then it's probably something like the sim (just any old sim won't do and it needs to be compatible with the phone). You could try another if you have a spare. When you switched it on, after a minute or so did you get a message popping up asking if you wanted to automatically configure the phone for your networks settings?