Will there be an official Windows Mobile 6.1 for the Herald?
nope. just that easy
so basically, tmobile wing will not have windows 6.1 that is not cool
Well July 12 I will be on my iPhone then.
well before you jump ship, all the current custom roms are 6.1
try those
well i am not jumping mate, I have tried them, and the closest i have gotten with HTC herald upgrade from tylerC161 is error messages saying, the system cannot excute the specified file and then shuts off. i am new to this, so if you have any experience with one of them, please reference, i dont need tutorial, i can do it i am sure, there are just a million version in this forum and i have not been successful with three of them so far and it took me a 6 to eight hours by now. i am still not frustrated, more like eager to see one of them work and see how touchflo works on my wing before i buy an iphone.
i agree
Why is it that the wing wont get a 6.1 upgrade but people that have had wm5's were able to go to 6's from what ive read. whats the point of having windows default update software on there if there never gona let you have the updates ??? i want the 6.1 also. Ive tried a few roms myself and went back to factory settings because of minor but imoprtant errors.
in all honesty, the wing already has wm6. if you're mad about them getting wm6 from wm5, the jump form wm6 to 6.1 doesn't necessarily translate
and windows update for wm is one of those ideas that sounds nice but doesn't really quite work
ok but also
I heard wings arent gona be upgradeable to WM7 either so do you see what i mean ?
Yeah but the iPhone won't make the jump from whateverthehellitsOSiscalled to wm7 either
Also, why would you want to run the bloatware that is a stock TMO rom? I mean seriously, you can't deny the fact that your wing runs 800x faster as soon as you flash anybody's rom, let alone a slim/lite version of one of them.
If you're going to dump the wing in favor of a different device, at least just use a custom rom untill wm7 hits. Otherwise you'll be buying yet another phone.
idea
try flashing to open touch v3.0 slim, everything works and its vrey fast. any program that it doesnt have you can usually find for free. good luck and dont stick with the tmo os cause it for lack of a better word sucks.
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Ok, im not really to new to this forum ive been using different roms i got from here on my wing(herald) which is running "OTP v6.5 Biggy.nbh". But, my question is i just bought a wizard for my gf and she really likes the operation system set up on my wing. Is the .nbh file im using on my wing usable on the wizard like do i just change it out of my herald ruu program drop it in the wizards and load flash away? thats what im gathering from reading but, i just would like to make sure. oh and btw its a g3 cid unlocked and ready to flash. Thanks in advance for any help
In short, probably, since Windows Mobile is essentialy the same software, regardless of the platform that it is on. In long, I personally wouldnt do it. While the Wing and the Wizard are essential the same spec wise, they are not identical hardware wise, which in my opinion would spell diasaster for you if you try to flash a Wing ROM to the Wizard or vice-versa. We have many different WinMo 6.1 flavors for download here, and im sure that one of them would be too your liking. Please my friend, dont sacrifice a Wizard for experimentation!
Personally, I would try the latest TNT build(20237 I think), its very fast, and WinMo 6.1, and the latest build to boot!
Hope that helps!
In short, probably, since Windows Mobile is essentialy the same software, regardless of the platform that it is on. In long, I personally wouldnt do it. While the Wing and the Wizard are essential the same spec wise, they are not identical hardware wise, which in my opinion would spell diasaster for you if you try to flash a Wing ROM to the Wizard or vice-versa. We have many different WinMo 6.1 flavors for download here, and im sure that one of them would be too your liking. Please my friend, dont sacrifice a Wizard for experimentation!
Personally, I would try the latest TNT build(20237 I think), its very fast, and WinMo 6.1, and the latest build to boot!
Hope that helps!
EDIT-Gahh, dunno what happened, but I double posted by accident! Can a mod please remove this? (and not use the temp. ban hammer?)
That is some good advice. I was also kinda wondering about this kind of thing and just happened to come accross your post.
ashasaur said:
In short, probably, since Windows Mobile is essentialy the same software, regardless of the platform that it is on. In long, I personally wouldnt do it. While the Wing and the Wizard are essential the same spec wise, they are not identical hardware wise, which in my opinion would spell diasaster for you if you try to flash a Wing ROM to the Wizard or vice-versa. We have many different WinMo 6.1 flavors for download here, and im sure that one of them would be too your liking. Please my friend, dont sacrifice a Wizard for experimentation!
Personally, I would try the latest TNT build(20237 I think), its very fast, and WinMo 6.1, and the latest build to boot!
Hope that helps!
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Thanks for the reply! Yea, i think ill just find one here. I dont wanna brick it im really looking for a stable 6.1 touch diamond build.Imma try those out and she how she likes em! Thanks again. i so thought i was gonna get flamed lol
Heh, perhaps by another member...but not from me! I try not to flame people asking innocent questions like that, now crap that is in the FAQ or something...THATS WHEN THE FLAMING BEGINS!! heh, but yeah, the latest TNT is indeed based off of the Touch Diamond ROM thats been floating around, so you are good to go there.
@hotrod101, glad I could be of service!
I have been looking to upgrade my Tytn II to the latest ROM however I have not been able to get the upgrade it from HTC.
but its seems to not be there....
My system is
R 1..27.15.32
G 22.51.8.13H
D 1.82.00.00
Now I"m not sure what all those numbers ar efor but I know the R is for radio!!
I got lost after reading that bit... I was going to try to upgrade it myself but got confused so I stopped... trying and thought I'd wait till an update was available from HTC...
Well it seems its not to me anyways...
SO if there is anyone out there that can help me sort out an upgrade..
I live in Brisbane, and use optus as my carrier... my phone is unlocked as far as I know... I purchased it on the net from a Melbourne online store.
So help an Aussie if ya can.....
if you want to upgrade, then please start reading here.....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
Why go to WM 6.1?
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6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
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Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
Yup tried reading that...
got lost as to what I need to match to what!!!
Like I said I'm looking for a some help to do this .
I"ll have another crack at it though see if I can make sense of any of it...
Peto01 man what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
More reading material
targ said:
what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
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Have a look at this thread about *hopeless* GPS after 6.1 update
The problem seems fairly widespread with TyTN II WM 6.1 updates. Since the ROM and Radio on your device seem to be from the Rogers network (as listed in the xda-dev wiki), that may explain why the generic HTC upgrade doesn't work for your device (only genuine HTC TyTN IIs will run the HTC upgrade as-is).
If you're just wanting to upgrade to WM 6.1 because it's the latest, you may be disappointed!
Useful!
I was browsing forum trying to see should I upgrade my stock 6.0 ROM to 6.1. Now I am sure that I will wait for couple more months (weeks?) !
I'm inclined to wait until the next ROM and Radio release has been tested/reviewed
I'm inclined to let someone else be the guinea pig regarding fixing the broken GPS. When a new ROM/Radio Combination is released on HTC eClub/Support, I'll check here to see how reports about GPS performance look and then when I'm sufficiently sure it's not still broken, will again jump over to WM 6.1.
Once bitten, twice shy and I don't want to have to get HTC to revert it to WM 6.0 again!
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Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
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I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
ach2 said:
I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
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I want to keep it all official HTC and not have to use hardspl at this stage, besides I prefer the look of the original HTC setup (themes, icons etc) over the customised Garmin DK3. The latest official HTC ROM for the device uses the same radio as you're using and I was far from satisfied with its reception instability compared to the old WM 6.0 setup. I've sent a letter to the big cheese at HTC so will wait and see what happens!
Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network" (WTF) I bought a HTC Tytn II from a Retailer. surely this is not a fake HTC??
Should I be looking at taking it back?
Does this mean I don't have any Warrenty?
This would be why HTC said that the Upgrade is not a suitable for my unit... going by the S/N!!
What am I to DO now.
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
I"m rather intrested in the L26 TL ROM of Leo's
And if I understand it correctly I need to
1. run jump SPL
2. then flash the SPL that suits the rom I go for.
3. flash the Radio
4. Flash the ROM I have choisen.
Then hard reset.
IS that right?
or have I got the order wrong or missed a step.
Just trying to make a simple as I can..
Would my location and carrier make a difference as to which SPL, ROM, RADIO I use.
OH yeah !
What Does the R, D, and G mean...
Well, I finally did my first ROM change (to 6.1) and have to say I don't have any problems at all.
I have a T-mobile Vario 3, that although everything worked, I always found slow and buggy.
I went for Sleuths 6.1 V3 ROM, simply because I was a hermes user before and his stuff was always flawless.......and I was proved right again.
It's really simple to do, contains the correct radio (much better than the shipped one), and is really fast and stable. Had it a week and used it intensively - no problems with Tomtom or GPS - the same, if not better than it was before.
I would suggest, if you're not sure which one to go for then try this and see if it suits you.
Ok I tried to use the link in the WIki to the Jump SPL the latest one that only needs you to follow the on screen info..
And well according to the on screen prompts it must be done but as for the unit its self I don't hink so as nothing really happened on it... I"m thinking that the wizard does not like Vista or it does not like Sync Centre.
anyone able to help me out ....
No WTFs reqd after-all
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Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network"
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Your Radio (R) is the same as that used by Rogers on their WM 6.0 ROMs. But you're right, I missed the bit about your 1.82 series ROM though so it looks more like you have the 3rd one down the wiki list of HTC WM 6.0 ROMs here and not the first: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Should I be looking at taking it back?
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Not if it currently works as you need it to but you could see what their explanation for why there is no WM 6.1 upgrade for your device yet is. HTC in Australia should also be able to advise you http://www.htc.com/au/about_htc.aspx?id=21840
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
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And some are so are you willing to take that risk as a newbie and get stuck with a non-original non-warrantable installation thats not straight forward to revert back to original WM 6.0 if it plays up for you? Is it not worth liasing with HTC first to see what they have to say about a possible WM 6.1 update if you're really that keen?
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
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Pass on the Radios but if history is anything to go by, there are a few different ROMs on that wiki page released for Australia. If you do a bit of searching around here I think you'll find cases of peoples non-Australian purchased TyTN IIs having problems when used there as well. I can't recall what the issues were but there definitely were issues (months ago before WM 6.1 came out on the Kaiser). Perhaps a search for Australia just in the Kaiser General or Kaiser ROM Dev forums may yeild results.
Thanks heaps I'll follow your leads Cheers
Okay Here is my problem I have a Tilt and want to upgrade to WM 6.1 but I don't know which rom I should go with (The one from att, Hyper Dragon, Dutty, etc..). Does anyone have any opinions on which upgrade rom I should go with?
Also side question WTF is up with the SD cards not showing data anymore after a while?
I used Hyper Dragon and its been fine. Again, it all depends on what you do with your phone
I want something stable and but speedy. I get my email, use S2P, Surf with Skyfire, use TL as today screen, use Final burn for Neo Geo games and need it not to freeze or screw up like it does now with 6.0. I Have a lot of multimedia so I need free ram (if possible) because people always ask to see it since my job is to sell phones and I need to "wow" customers with it.
I don't know if that helps to narrow it down but any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I have tried them all and always seem to go back to HyperdragonIII. In my opinion its the fastest and most stable and Manila2D works and looks great. I would try the 11th oct version as it has no bugs that i can find and some of the newer builds are more experimental. Follow the link in my sig to the HyperDragon Thread.
Edit: If you require a non Manila2D Rom to show your customers then 5th sept is the best for HyperDragonIII
I would go with the offical update or a NATF rom. I like NotATreoFan's roms because they are clean and quick, but I would suggest just tyring out WinMo 6.1 first (with the offical update). You may find you prefer WinMo 6.
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IYou may find you prefer WinMo 6.
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So true
Unfortunately once a phone is upgraded, it's not as easy as running the older ROM RUU for reverting either - there's lots of hoops to jump through as far as reverting is concerned.
I Have my opinion of what ROM is best. But this may differ for you.
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self explanatory really. Will the kaiser get an official version of the wm 6.5 rom when it comes out??? Thanks.
Yeah, we all know but we aren't telling.
no one knows but i think not would be nice if they did
why wouldn't they? Crap, they upgraded us to 6.1 which was nice but still not what that phone needs. Now they are coming out with a much more touch friendly interface and they won't give us that? Why wouldn't we get another upgrade? It's not like the hardware can't handle it. It's barely even out of it's cycle.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/16/microsoft-announces-windows-mobile-6-5/
"Sadly, Microsoft's saying that no devices in the market today will receive official 6.5 updates, but don't pull out your wallets just yet, though -- the first devices with Windows Mobile 6.5 preinstalled should be available in the fourth quarter of the year."
Hi everyone,
I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have been torn on whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 for some time now. Well I finally decided to go for it, but then came across the official unbranded HTC rom.
My question is (dealing only with official release updates from tmobile and htc):
Who has upgraded to both branded and unbranded and can relay pros and cons of both compared to 6.1 and each other? Or has anyone heard enough about both, or can give me any relevant information?
Also, do I need to HardSPL in order to flash the HTC rom?
I'd really like to lose all the bloatware and sh!tty splash screen and everything else t-mo, but I don't know if there is any clear-cut advantage to doing so.
Also, if I am completely daft and missed a similar pre-existing thread, please inform me of my mistake. Same goes if I posted in the wrong section, this is my first post in evar.
THANKS!!!
Put Hardspl on your phone and you can test yourself You can always go back to the 6.1 rom.
is there a stock manila 2.5 ROM offered by t-mo?
if not, 2.5 + CHT is definately worth using the HTC ROM.
I would not mess with Sense 2.5 unless it is cooked. You need a lot of tweaks to make it run smoothly on the TP2, especially in HTC messaging. I am using a cooked version of the T-Mobile stock rom with Sense 2.1, has been the best and most stable rom for me yet. Sense 2.5 is good if you don't mind giving up some performance for new features. Sense 2.1 is what our devices run best with. Hope this helps you decide.
EDIT: In comparison to WinMo 6.1 with TF3D, upgrading to 6.5 with Sense2.1 will in my opinion make the device run smoother. 6.1 is a very solid OS and works well with TouchFlo to make scrolling much easier. However, I say if you can upgrade the device to 6.5 without losing performance go for it because it is much better integrated than TouchFlo, making the touch experience much better. Through my testing, the TP2 functions best with WinMo 6.5 with Sense2.1. The newer WinMo builds are probably better off using on the HD2 and other high performance devices. Same thing with Sense2.5, it can run smoothly but you will be giving up some speed as well as memory and battery life. I have come to terms with my phone, lol... Nothing beyond Sense2.1 and WM6.5 from now on. But you have to test on your own to see which you like better. Good luck!
I've been cooking own ROM for a few weeks now, and it's a T-Mobile no frills ROM.
It's not quite finished, but it's very stable and the battery life is excellent. I could always use another tester if you're interested.
krodby said:
Hi everyone,
I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have been torn on whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 for some time now. Well I finally decided to go for it, but then came across the official unbranded HTC rom.
My question is (dealing only with official release updates from tmobile and htc):
Who has upgraded to both branded and unbranded and can relay pros and cons of both compared to 6.1 and each other? Or has anyone heard enough about both, or can give me any relevant information?
Also, do I need to HardSPL in order to flash the HTC rom?
EDIT: I used the official T-Mobile for several weeks, it is OK. I'm on NRG now.
I'd really like to lose all the bloatware and sh!tty splash screen and everything else t-mo, but I don't know if there is any clear-cut advantage to doing so.
Also, if I am completely daft and missed a similar pre-existing thread, please inform me of my mistake. Same goes if I posted in the wrong section, this is my first post in evar.
THANKS!!!
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You would have to hard SPL to use the HTC ROM.
The Official WM 6.5 is a sense 2.1 version, but you would not need to hard SPL.
Thanks for all of your help!
I'm still not sure what i'll do for now, but i'll probably end up just biting the bullet and becoming an addict. I'll start with the official sh!t and gateway into flashing every stable rom that exists lol.