I havent seen anyone else mention this, i duno if its a conflict or what.
If i use my google search bar off the today screen, or i open PIE sometimes (havent nailed it down yet as to when) my PIE will open like its searching for the google search or the address i put in. HOwever all i get is a blank white screen?
Resetting the tilt seems to cure this, then i see it does the connecting to medianet blah blah.... is there some sort of hibernate mode or some thing im not aware of? (seems like if i leave the phone on all nite charging this happens)
thnx
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it's not something I've ever seen:maybe a bug with live search and your ROM: which are you using?
Maybe now is a good time to switch to Opera Mobile 9.5 and set that as your default browser. PIE is enough to make me throw my phone at the wall, and If i were forced to use it again I wouldn't keep my Windows Mobile device.
Each to their own though!
If you don't already have Opera Mobile the latest cab is here which also includes a cab to set it as the default for everything, including the search bar.
you can also download the attached cab which is a standalone google today plugin if you'd like to try a different option. Google made their own today screen search engine but it doesn't seem to be available despite only being released a month or so ago.....strange.
I get the white screen from time to time after putting in push email and having a constant data connection. I enabled the disconnect button to the top connection popup and after disconnecting the phone reconnects and all is well.
i will check out the opera i am using the google today plugin and i have it if anyone needs it.
Thats part of the problem when i use it from time to time PIE opens w/ a blank screen. And i have skyfire, but i have to say for some things i just dont wanna deal w/ the frustration of that stupid zoom button and lag on skyfire so i just use PIE for things like opening streaming content etc.
Could very well be a push email type of problem, i use it constantly w/ 3 or 4 different accounts.
Im using the latest AT&t minus the bloatware.
ITs almost like it wont initiate the medianet .... actually thats exactly what it is. Because once i restart, and i hit search or open PIE it instantly says connecting to medianet........ when its blank it just sits there, never even tries to connect.
One more observation... like i said i use the email alot. Sometimes when i go hit email, then goto>folders>pick an account. It (the email account) will pop up and say disconnecting (??) is it maybe hanging up in the email ? and thats why PIE wont open>? Its exactly (if youve ever had this happen) if you have OPERA open, and you try to use PIE, youll get nothing. (at least in my situation) until you close the other browser. Does that sound right? Ive had it happen serveral times to me, i use SPB so i hit close all then reopen PIE and it works. If this is normal, then id have to assume im somehow getting stuck (connected) to my email.
I have experienced this issue as long as I've had my Tilt.
It also affected my ability to download traffic updates on Smartphlow (a live traffic map for the Seattle area).
Same exact behavior, PIE would just give blank white screen. No change after clearing temp files etc... Soft reset would always get me back on with no trouble (other than the PITA of having to restart the phone).
Now I've recently moved to a house that sits in a reception hole so the Tilt is always bumping back and forth between 3G (1-2 bars) and Edge (4-5 bars). Since moving in 6 weeks ago I've not had the same problem.
It definitely seems related to the length of time that a data connection has been active. I previously could only go 1-2 days tops without having to restart the phone to get good data.
Incidentally though, mail never had a problem, just PIE and the traffic app (didn't try any other apps that I can think of that might have shown the same behavior).
Unfortunately I don't know the true cause or have a solid solution for it, just more of a "me too" post with additional detail in hopes it's helpful for someone to pin down the root cause and find a solution.
+1 to that, It happens to me often, like every few days, no matter what rom I'm on. It seems to only effect pocket ie, opera mobile still works, email still works etc... only pocket ie fails.
I can usually correct it by going into airplane mode and then back which is a bit faster than a soft reset but its still annoying.
I've been experiencing it on the stock ATT rom as well as the many roms I've gone through since getting my tilt. I'm primarily on edge but do go through 3g about once a week or so.
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+1 to that, It happens to me often, like every few days, no matter what rom I'm on. It seems to only effect pocket ie, opera mobile still works, email still works etc... only pocket ie fails.
I can usually correct it by going into airplane mode and then back which is a bit faster than a soft reset but its still annoying.
I've been experiencing it on the stock ATT rom as well as the many roms I've gone through since getting my tilt. I'm primarily on edge but do go through 3g about once a week or so.
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There is our answer then: simply stop using the dreadful Pocket Internet Explorer altogether. It's completely unsuited to QVGA screens and suffers from an inability to support HTML pages correctly and consistantly. Opera Mobile 9.5 on the other hand makes browsing beautiful. It's even a lot faster than PIE over GPRS.
I am having problems as well with PIE. It just refuses to connect to any data signal (Wifi, HSDPA, 3G). All of the other browsers work though. I am a mainly use opera mini, but that is not ideal for cirtain situations. I dont really like PIE but to be honest sometimes I need it as there are issues when I use Opera 9.5 (not being able to use the hardware keyboard, messing around with sound notification settings using the official beta). Has anybody out there got a solution that doesn't involve a hard reset? I have searched around and not found a suitable solution so far. By the way I am using a UK T-mobile Vario 3 with stock rom.
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Hi everyone,
Here's the problem with an edge connection on T-mobile:
1) In PIE (pocket internet explorer) I type in www.google.com
2) It takes me to www.google.com/m, which is fine with me
3) I'm looking at the webpage and then select "sign in"
4) PIE closes with no error codes or nothing
5) I tried several websites and I could surf a page or 2, then PIE closes
6) Cleared Storage and started from scratch, nor programs installed and it does the same thing
7) Cleared storage again and reset before customizations started, still PIE closes
Note: If I use a wi-fi connection, it works fine. I'm able to surf any webpage with no problems. The edge connection works fine also. I was able to listen to Sirius for several minutes with no problems. What would cause PIE to close with no errors? Any ideas?
By the way, this is my second Tilt. I was able to surf the web with zero problems with the first tilt I had. The first one had issues with tinny bluetooth sound and the built in speaker sound broke up and same with the mic. This one has the same issue, so it's either a T-mobile thing or hardware/software issue. I also notice a delay when trying to select something on the screen.
Thanks for the help,
GP
try taking off the proxy. i had the same problem with some sites but if i took off the proxy i didnt have the problem
I have the same issue with my Tilt, I've not found an answer. But it looks to only close when trying to go to a secure webpage. ie. gmail.com or logmein.com
hope someone can help us figure this out.
I received my diamond 2 on Saturday (yay) and couldn't wait to start playing with it. However it does have one major problem straight out of the box and i wonder if anyone else has experienced it.
The opera browser is very unstable. It triggers a general exception error from Windows and either constantly asks to send error reports (duely turned off!) or just shuts itself down. Anyone else experienced or found a fix?
Secondly the browser keeps trying to render in mobile mode unless i select the link to go to HTML, how do i turn that off cos the screen renders full screen beautifully.
A few other annoyances, The data connection only seems to work on HSDPA and not GPRS, this is a potential big problem.
The youtube client only works with a wifi connection, what!! HSDPA is easily fast enough to stream, is this specific to my device.
Anny assistance would be appreciated as i would like to know if these problems are specific to my device or just general annoyances.
Cheers.
I don't recognize your problems at all. Opera hasn't crashed one single time on me since I got the D2 last friday. It works very fast and stable, better than any Opera cab I installed on my old Cruise. Full screen (not mobile view) works excellent and is always default in my Opera.
I haven't deliberately used the data connection over GPRS yet, but I have seen the G symbol instead of the 3G or H symbol, when being in some areas. So at least it does see the GPRS network correctly. I have no reason to assume it wouldn't work there.
The youtube application works great too. Completely stable and fast, again not like any Youtube cab I tried on my old Polaris before. And I just tested, it works through wifi and 3g.
I'm sorry for your problems. I am really surprised on how great my Diamond2 is. I think they really hit the nail on the head this time. I don't know how to solve your problems, but if this behaviour happens even directly after you hard reset the device, I guess your only option is to send it back.
haven't had any of that really myself and i actually tried to 'overload' opera. I run it fullscreen an all.
have you tried the general discussion forums? If it's opera itself, you'll maybe find something there.
youtube is a bit sluggish at times in 'hq mode' but fine otherwise for me
why is hsdpa over gprs a problem? Both are for data, just hsdpa is quite a bit faster even when taking the fastest gprs vs. the slowest hsdpa data rate.
unless networkcoverage is an issue in your case i wouldn't personally pick 2G over 3G..
maybe you're simply the unlucky one, harsh as it may be.. have you tried HTC customer helpdesk?
I haven't had those problems with opera, haven't seen it crash once yet. Have you tried a hard or soft reset?
I do notice opera on the Diamond 2 is terribly laggy compared to opera mini on my old mobile. Tried skyfire and it's worse, iris about the same.
I found the youtube app works great over HSDPA (and wifi), now this version I do prefer and can't find any faults with it.
my opera crashes if a proxy is enabled on connection settings.
did not have any crashes as i do not use the internet
but when using quickmenu it always shows the opera runing.
you cannot stop it weird
wilcovh said:
did not have any crashes as i do not use the internet
but when using quickmenu it always shows the opera runing.
you cannot stop it weird
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Push internet maybe? (just guessing)
cheers for the replies. I've actually hard reset the device aswell as soft resets. however opera still remained unstable. the problem seems to be with windows though as the error message was from windows and an install of opera 9.5 beta 2 caused the same problem. seems ok now though so will have to to monitor it.
i have to say youtube is a concern as it won't connect unless on wifi.
may take some getting used to or may need sending back, either way i think the software is at fault though, i think the device itself is top notch.
I say it's ok and 30 seconds later opera crashes. dame windows and it's nuances!!
I've experienced some strange behaviour of windows and some programs on my old Cruise some time. Frequent crashes, windows errors and other annoyances, like frequently loosing activesync connection and not seeing the sd-card. In the end, it was caused by a faulty board inside the device. After replacement of the board all problems where gone. I had spent hours trying other ROM's and hard resetting before that.
What I'm trying to say is, that sometimes hardware faults are just causing minor problems, while the device works well most of the time. Then you're eager to think it's a software or ROM problem, but it ain't always. If I were you, I'd send it back. I do understand that's not something you'd really like to do when it just arrived
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I say it's ok and 30 seconds later opera crashes. dame windows and it's nuances!!
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Tried the proxy thing?
As Trinode says you really do want to turn off the proxy setting within the connections page of WM itself. T-Mobile, for example, always adds the useless proxy setting which will almost certainly crash Opera when you look at Gmail.
Why oh why does the connection wizard still insist on adding a proxy when you clearly don't need it?
Thanks for all the replies, this forum really is bloody usefull!
I have tried the proxy thing, and was waiting to respond to test but incredibly this seems to have done the trick! Opera hasn't died since i removed the proxy. Thanks trinode.
I'm with you wibberly, can't see why on earth they need this proxy setting in there, my data connection is far more stable and opera now seems to work fine. Weird!
One thing though is that the youtube app stil doesn't register a network connection through the phone signal, WIFI only. Wonder if this is a T-Mobile data restriction? The fine print from them does say that you shouldn't stream videos. Didn't affect my last contract though. That said i can't say i'm too bothered so long as the device itself is happy.
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One thing though is that the youtube app stil doesn't register a network connection through the phone signal, WIFI only.
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Maybe you can try it with someone elses SIM?
Damn proxies indeed. They always block all my e-mail connections. Turning it off is the first thing I do.
I too had the opera crash problem, but after ttrying to get hotmail to work in TouchFlo natively by turning off the Proxy settings, I've killed two birds with one stone... Stable Opera + Hotmail in TF3D! Wohoo.
Now, who can help with my next query?
I've tried to set the max number of tabs to 6, (as I that's the way I had it set up on my old D1,) under opera:config, and change the user id to sgh-i900 so I can get BBC iPlayer, but doesn't matter how many times I do this, (and press save settings, just incase you ask,) every time I launch Opera, it reverts back to it's default settings, so I'm stuck with 2 crappy tabs and no BBC iPlayer!!!!!!
Any ideas?
Is it possible to change the default Internet Browser to IE from Opera when you press "Launch Browser"?
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I too had the opera crash problem, but after ttrying to get hotmail to work in TouchFlo natively by turning off the Proxy settings, I've killed two birds with one stone... Stable Opera + Hotmail in TF3D! Wohoo.
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Well, this didn't sort the problem for me. I don't use a proxy. I get the error when rss heb notify is on and it notifies for new updates. Wether I press OK or cancel there it gives the shell32.exe error.
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As Trinode says you really do want to turn off the proxy setting within the connections page of WM itself. T-Mobile, for example, always adds the useless proxy setting which will almost certainly crash Opera when you look at Gmail.
Why oh why does the connection wizard still insist on adding a proxy when you clearly don't need it?
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Just to reiterate the above. I received my TD2 today on T-Mobile from mobilephonesdirect.com and Opera was a crashfest until I removed the proxy setting. IT IS A MUST DO SETTING CHANGE!
HTH
Tony
I just got my TD2 yesterday. Been trying to figure out the settings for the push internet, but i can't seem to find the option to use WiFi connection instead of data connection.
Also i realised that the scheduling doesnt allow to set the minute only the hour.
Does anyone have this problem?
No one has any problem using this feature?
If you have WiFi on it should just use it I guess? Otherwise what you can do is setup your preferred connection not to be the mobile web one so it doesn't try and connect to the net over GPRS/3G.
I tried using Wifi, but it doesnt work. I still need to manually pull the sites.
When your phone goes into standby the WIFI connection turns off to save the battery, so unless you have your phone set to never turn off and keep WIFI active all the time its unlikely that it will use WIFI to push internet pages to you. Very little point doing it that way since you'd never have the phone last long enough to get out of the house in the morning.
Oh I reckon I know what might be wrong. You also need to change the schedules of when the phone polls for sites. You do it by day and stuff and do a start time. Once you visit each site once then that'll start the ticker so to speak. Mine autodownloaded at the set intervals after that.
Thanks Shuflie, u have a good point.. there is no point updating it via wifi. It needs to use a data connection. Thanks
DaBountyHunter: Thanks for the advice.. but i really think the problem is that i dont have a data plan with my telco.. i cant rely on WIFI since it disables whenever the phone goes into standby.
hi,
i'm a little bit confused about this feature!
i addet 4 sites to my list and if i got it right, there is a grey arrow if its updating and a green if its finished! is that correct?
but, when i surf on a site with a green arrow i can only see the main page, because if i tip any link on this it says error!
thats a total mess, the deep of min one link is essential...
do i something wrong or is this feature only a dream!??
I believe it only updates the pages on the main page. It doesnt save the entire site (i wished it did) cos it seems rather redundant when it only saves the main page.
hopefully someone can make a fix that it also loads the linked pages but i think it takes up too much memory/battery life and for example on news sites you only need the headlines, and if you want to read the article you'll have to wait a bit.
(for the Dutch, use tweakers.net/nieuws on your phone, it loads the articles instead of headlines)
well then in my opinion this feature is senseless!
quite true.. senseless.. might as well just use RSS feeds.
I still haven't received my TD2 (seems like it takes time for other languages as I'm looking for a french one which should be shipped on the 8th of May) but I still have a question regarding push internet feature.
What happens when roaming? Is there a way to disable it while on another network? Like a "disable while roaming" feature? Knowing the fees for data roaming, I don't want to spend money every time I'm going in another country...
yes, there is a 'disable when roaming' feature.
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Oh I reckon I know what might be wrong. You also need to change the schedules of when the phone polls for sites. You do it by day and stuff and do a start time. Once you visit each site once then that'll start the ticker so to speak. Mine autodownloaded at the set intervals after that.
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i tried that, also tried many other things but i am almost defintely sure the 'add push page' is simply a bookmark button. the main conclusion for this is that i dont get any notification of the 'auto pull' and it still attempts to connect to HSDPA when opening one of these push pages
I stopped using it because it only updates the top page.
Where are the oush internet settings on rom official rom version 2.53?
Does anyone know exactly what is causing this problem because it continues to happen across different ROMs and different Radios. Is there some fundamental reason why the X1 can't maintain a connection with IM clients?
I'm on T-mobile in the UK and running the valkyrie_V3 WWE ROM. Windows live messenger will disconnect if i put the phone into standby for as little as a minute and sometimes even when I'm in the middle of messaging. I keep getting messages saying "wireless connection not available trying to reconnect" or something similar.
I've tried IM+ and while that doesn't give disconnection messages it's doing the same thing as i have tested it using different accounts.
I can't get ebuddy working on this ROM because it won't let me enter the password for some odd reason but that has had the same problem with other ROMS in the past.
Has anyone found a solution to this or is it something to do with T-mobile settings?
I should point out that throughout all this i maintain a good signal of at least 2 bars and according to the phone the data connection hasn't dropped.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
i used to use AOL's own mobile-based IM/chat client for AIM, and it always kept me connected without problems no matter what. only problem was it was INSANELY slow.
i've switched to slick, which i'm not crazy about, and i'm having the same problems as you. i'll randomly get disconnected with the phone sitting with full HSDPA reception, not going into sleep or standby....i thought it was just slick's crappy programming
Which network are you on?
Also are you 100% sure AOL used to stay connected because i thought the same thing about IM+ but a lot of my messages weren't getting returned. I signed into 2 different accounts, one on PC one on phone to test and it turned out the same thing was happening just not as obviously.
This is really frustrating, my old K800i used to stay connected to windows live for days at a time, my friends blackberry also has no trouble staying connected.
i too have the same problem, we need the xda gurus to fix this, hopefully they would be able to do so in the near future
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Which network are you on?
Also are you 100% sure AOL used to stay connected because i thought the same thing about IM+ but a lot of my messages weren't getting returned. I signed into 2 different accounts, one on PC one on phone to test and it turned out the same thing was happening just not as obviously.
This is really frustrating, my old K800i used to stay connected to windows live for days at a time, my friends blackberry also has no trouble staying connected.
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pretty sure it was connected constantly. i had some pretty lengthy text sessions and i never got any error messages (IM not received, user not on, signed off, etc). i mean, i can never be 100% sure, but pretty sure. i only used it fo ra couple weeks before getting rid of it, it was creeping death slow for some reason
I'm too really desperate for a solution to this problem. My device is a HTC Touch Pro2 running Windows Mobile 6.5.
The case is that I will launch a new business site in just a few weeks whos customers are for the biggest part young intellectuals more often than seldomly really integrated with the modern IT-development. Hence I've always wanted to add the Windows Live messenger plugin to the site so that our customers can have a live chat completly anonymously without having their IP traced and logged which is the case for the markets paid services. Furthermore, the msn live plugin is completly ad free and doesn't cost a penny. The paid services out there that other corporations use for their live chat often comes with an URL to the host even though the customer are paying for their live chat module. The most important part though, is that I can bring with me Windows Live Messenger wherever I go which for the most part is a complex and not even that usual solution in the paid service segment. I think you can understand my problem now =) I'm just desperate to have my live messenger in the phone ALWAYS and ALWAYS stay connected.
For an example of the plugin I'm refering too have a look at my personal website:
martinandersson.com
A little more specific information describing what really happens with my device:
Windows Live version: 10.7.0061.0500.2000. Language: Swedish (Also the language of my OS).
I am running the client non-exclusivly. It always stays in the taskbar and never quit on me unlike what happens to programs that stay open running in the background for a longer period of time. In that way, it works great.
The main Windows Live window's (which are displayed and runned as a seperate program) options/settings are set to sync my e-mail although the frequency are set to "manual" and the other options below this drop box are for some reason greyed out. I guess this has to be interpreted as if live doesn't sync my mail at all, which I like being that I do not have an hotmail account or need this feature in any way.
The status of my phone always always show two small 3G icons (one just '3G' and one '3G' above a meter) and if I click in this field I see a ticking clock which shows that it is indeed connected to internet ever since my phone's last reboot. This has never been in any other way. Still, I did download the DiamondTweak and enabled the "internet always on" feature, but again, I do not think that really was the issue and from what I can tell, the DiamondTweak just hasn't made any difference at all.
One detail of great importance is this; Whenever I browse the internet, update my rss feeds or switch to the messenger contact list window through the taskbar, the 3G symbols changes to display an H. That tells me that this "H" must show for the phone to have a "real" internet connection? Could this be the trick, one has to find a fix to always have the H show? If that would be the case, I just can't understand why the phone says it is indeed connected to the internet when there's just a 3G-symbol in the status. Anyways..
Even though the messenger dies completly and just as what this threads owner wrote, shows a "wireless connection lost" message when I swich to its contact list window, it sometimes live for quite a while. The thing is that it just doesn't get the message instantly. The phone can be in standby mode (really haven't figured that thing out, everybody keeps saying "standby" mode but for what I can tell all that happens is that the display goes of) for sure, and then I write myself a message through the live chat plugin on my site but it takes about 6 to 10 minutes for the phone to give a sound and notice me of this message. And again, for the most part the live messenger doesn't stay alive for that long, the sites plugin goes offline and then if I turn the phone's display on and access the live messenger it says that the wireless connection has been lost and reconnects.
Moreoever, it never gets my plugin to go back online either. For that part to happen, I have to first get online with a desktop client and then again login with my phone. For if I stay online with the desktop client, the phone's client is indeed alive, but won't receive any messages. I have to reconnect with my phone so that my desktop client gets thrown out. But of course, is just a matter of time before my live chat module and my phone's client gets offline and I have to do everything over again. The really annoying part is that the phone's client dies a long time before the site's plugin catch up and goes offline. Hence I might loose a lot of customers who think they are chatting with me but never get a reply.
Given the description above, I think the problem really is that live messenger doesn't ping or talk with its server that often, IF the phone is in standby mode. If it isn't, if the display is turned on, I recieve my messages instantly and everything works just fine. Sure there must be an easy fix for this problem, a small edit to be done in a config file somewhere?
All help and all problem experience is much appreciated.
So I've been having trouble with the wifi connection on my phone almost since I got it. Certain websites (cinema5d.com, eoshd.com, even Amazon.com at times) load perfectly fine when using my mobile data, but the minute I switch to WiFi... like ANY wifi router anywhere in the world, the pages either load VERYYYYYYY SLOOOOOOWLY... or don't load at all. I've tried going through all my advanced network settings... but I can't quite find a place to switch only the DNS on the MotoX4. (And I'm not really sure why I should have to.)
This is running completely standard RETEU firmware. Android Pie with the latest patch. (Though I also had the exact same problem with Marshmallow.) Not rooted.
I have no idea what's going on, how I can fix it, or how I can even get a glimpse of what's going on.
The other thing is I've been logging on to my bank for like YEARS with no problem... but yesterday, when I tried to go in, they told me I needed to use a browser that supports javascript all of a sudden? Maybe this is all connected?