I received my diamond 2 on Saturday (yay) and couldn't wait to start playing with it. However it does have one major problem straight out of the box and i wonder if anyone else has experienced it.
The opera browser is very unstable. It triggers a general exception error from Windows and either constantly asks to send error reports (duely turned off!) or just shuts itself down. Anyone else experienced or found a fix?
Secondly the browser keeps trying to render in mobile mode unless i select the link to go to HTML, how do i turn that off cos the screen renders full screen beautifully.
A few other annoyances, The data connection only seems to work on HSDPA and not GPRS, this is a potential big problem.
The youtube client only works with a wifi connection, what!! HSDPA is easily fast enough to stream, is this specific to my device.
Anny assistance would be appreciated as i would like to know if these problems are specific to my device or just general annoyances.
Cheers.
I don't recognize your problems at all. Opera hasn't crashed one single time on me since I got the D2 last friday. It works very fast and stable, better than any Opera cab I installed on my old Cruise. Full screen (not mobile view) works excellent and is always default in my Opera.
I haven't deliberately used the data connection over GPRS yet, but I have seen the G symbol instead of the 3G or H symbol, when being in some areas. So at least it does see the GPRS network correctly. I have no reason to assume it wouldn't work there.
The youtube application works great too. Completely stable and fast, again not like any Youtube cab I tried on my old Polaris before. And I just tested, it works through wifi and 3g.
I'm sorry for your problems. I am really surprised on how great my Diamond2 is. I think they really hit the nail on the head this time. I don't know how to solve your problems, but if this behaviour happens even directly after you hard reset the device, I guess your only option is to send it back.
haven't had any of that really myself and i actually tried to 'overload' opera. I run it fullscreen an all.
have you tried the general discussion forums? If it's opera itself, you'll maybe find something there.
youtube is a bit sluggish at times in 'hq mode' but fine otherwise for me
why is hsdpa over gprs a problem? Both are for data, just hsdpa is quite a bit faster even when taking the fastest gprs vs. the slowest hsdpa data rate.
unless networkcoverage is an issue in your case i wouldn't personally pick 2G over 3G..
maybe you're simply the unlucky one, harsh as it may be.. have you tried HTC customer helpdesk?
I haven't had those problems with opera, haven't seen it crash once yet. Have you tried a hard or soft reset?
I do notice opera on the Diamond 2 is terribly laggy compared to opera mini on my old mobile. Tried skyfire and it's worse, iris about the same.
I found the youtube app works great over HSDPA (and wifi), now this version I do prefer and can't find any faults with it.
my opera crashes if a proxy is enabled on connection settings.
did not have any crashes as i do not use the internet
but when using quickmenu it always shows the opera runing.
you cannot stop it weird
wilcovh said:
did not have any crashes as i do not use the internet
but when using quickmenu it always shows the opera runing.
you cannot stop it weird
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Push internet maybe? (just guessing)
cheers for the replies. I've actually hard reset the device aswell as soft resets. however opera still remained unstable. the problem seems to be with windows though as the error message was from windows and an install of opera 9.5 beta 2 caused the same problem. seems ok now though so will have to to monitor it.
i have to say youtube is a concern as it won't connect unless on wifi.
may take some getting used to or may need sending back, either way i think the software is at fault though, i think the device itself is top notch.
I say it's ok and 30 seconds later opera crashes. dame windows and it's nuances!!
I've experienced some strange behaviour of windows and some programs on my old Cruise some time. Frequent crashes, windows errors and other annoyances, like frequently loosing activesync connection and not seeing the sd-card. In the end, it was caused by a faulty board inside the device. After replacement of the board all problems where gone. I had spent hours trying other ROM's and hard resetting before that.
What I'm trying to say is, that sometimes hardware faults are just causing minor problems, while the device works well most of the time. Then you're eager to think it's a software or ROM problem, but it ain't always. If I were you, I'd send it back. I do understand that's not something you'd really like to do when it just arrived
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I say it's ok and 30 seconds later opera crashes. dame windows and it's nuances!!
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Tried the proxy thing?
As Trinode says you really do want to turn off the proxy setting within the connections page of WM itself. T-Mobile, for example, always adds the useless proxy setting which will almost certainly crash Opera when you look at Gmail.
Why oh why does the connection wizard still insist on adding a proxy when you clearly don't need it?
Thanks for all the replies, this forum really is bloody usefull!
I have tried the proxy thing, and was waiting to respond to test but incredibly this seems to have done the trick! Opera hasn't died since i removed the proxy. Thanks trinode.
I'm with you wibberly, can't see why on earth they need this proxy setting in there, my data connection is far more stable and opera now seems to work fine. Weird!
One thing though is that the youtube app stil doesn't register a network connection through the phone signal, WIFI only. Wonder if this is a T-Mobile data restriction? The fine print from them does say that you shouldn't stream videos. Didn't affect my last contract though. That said i can't say i'm too bothered so long as the device itself is happy.
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One thing though is that the youtube app stil doesn't register a network connection through the phone signal, WIFI only.
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Maybe you can try it with someone elses SIM?
Damn proxies indeed. They always block all my e-mail connections. Turning it off is the first thing I do.
I too had the opera crash problem, but after ttrying to get hotmail to work in TouchFlo natively by turning off the Proxy settings, I've killed two birds with one stone... Stable Opera + Hotmail in TF3D! Wohoo.
Now, who can help with my next query?
I've tried to set the max number of tabs to 6, (as I that's the way I had it set up on my old D1,) under opera:config, and change the user id to sgh-i900 so I can get BBC iPlayer, but doesn't matter how many times I do this, (and press save settings, just incase you ask,) every time I launch Opera, it reverts back to it's default settings, so I'm stuck with 2 crappy tabs and no BBC iPlayer!!!!!!
Any ideas?
Is it possible to change the default Internet Browser to IE from Opera when you press "Launch Browser"?
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I too had the opera crash problem, but after ttrying to get hotmail to work in TouchFlo natively by turning off the Proxy settings, I've killed two birds with one stone... Stable Opera + Hotmail in TF3D! Wohoo.
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Well, this didn't sort the problem for me. I don't use a proxy. I get the error when rss heb notify is on and it notifies for new updates. Wether I press OK or cancel there it gives the shell32.exe error.
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As Trinode says you really do want to turn off the proxy setting within the connections page of WM itself. T-Mobile, for example, always adds the useless proxy setting which will almost certainly crash Opera when you look at Gmail.
Why oh why does the connection wizard still insist on adding a proxy when you clearly don't need it?
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Just to reiterate the above. I received my TD2 today on T-Mobile from mobilephonesdirect.com and Opera was a crashfest until I removed the proxy setting. IT IS A MUST DO SETTING CHANGE!
HTH
Tony
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I'm not sure what it is, but for some reason some of the programs are not connecting to the internet on my tilt. i'm running the q-mobile tilt rom, and the only thing that is connecting to the medianet is palringo. i can't access the new w/ windows live or internet explorer. any idea what it could be?
no ideas from anyone...i know they're a boat load of phone-tech savy people here, someone has to have some kind of idea?
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no ideas from anyone...i know they're a boat load of phone-tech savy people here, someone has to have some kind of idea?
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Hi dude
more info plz!! I didn't well undertand your problem!
Are you trying to connect by your Pravider Data Connection (GPRS/HSDPA) or by WiFi??!!
sorry, i guess i didn't say that. i did say medianet, but i sure have been a little more concise. but yes, i'm trying to connect through att wireless medianet. the weird thing is, i am connected because i am able to go online with palringo and talk w/ contacts on aim, but IE doesn't work, windows live doesn't work either. i went through and changed some of the settings in media net per attwireless support forum, i'm looking for the proxy cab to download as it isn't on my phone, this could be the fix for it...but i highly doubt it because the internet was working on my phone just fine for the first week or so after i installed my ROM. now it just wont connect anymore, and i know i didn't do anything except uninstall solitaire and a few other games
ok...not much progress, but i guess this is a start. instead of getting an error message when i try to open a page w/ IE, in the status bar it says "Locating..." "Opening...", "0 Kb"...then it just stops, and nothing loads up. I'm stumped
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sorry, i guess i didn't say that. i did say medianet, but i sure have been a little more concise. but yes, i'm trying to connect through att wireless medianet. the weird thing is, i am connected because i am able to go online with palringo and talk w/ contacts on aim, but IE doesn't work, windows live doesn't work either. i went through and changed some of the settings in media net per attwireless support forum, i'm looking for the proxy cab to download as it isn't on my phone, this could be the fix for it...but i highly doubt it because the internet was working on my phone just fine for the first week or so after i installed my ROM. now it just wont connect anymore, and i know i didn't do anything except uninstall solitaire and a few other games
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First of all sorry, but i'm not American, so correct me if i'm wrong: "ATT Wireless" is your Phone Provider, right? and you are trying to connect to internet using the Provider Data Connection and not Wi-Fi, e.g. through your home router (Wi-Fi = Wireless but not "ATT Wireless", names coincidence!!! ), right? if this is correct, you didn't answer me to the above-mentioned question (using Provider Data or Wi-Fi??)!!
So try to set this Windows options:
Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections -> Advanced Tab -> Networks Selection -> than select in the two options your Internet Provider service, more ,if you need, under the both tweak keys you can edit it, like proxy settings!
Hope to well undertand your problem!
Umm...i did answer your question, i did say it was attwireless. I'm guessing you're not familiar with NA cell phone providers, which i'm sorry we missed, but i did answer the question. No need for the rolling of eyes. But yes, as i said in some posts earlier, i did change those settings already as per the attwireless support forum on their website. But its still not working.
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Umm...i did answer your question, i did say it was attwireless. I'm guessing you're not familiar with NA cell phone providers, which i'm sorry we missed, but i did answer the question. No need for the rolling of eyes. But yes, as i said in some posts earlier, i did change those settings already as per the attwireless support forum on their website. But its still not working.
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...ok, we misunderstanding, or better,i didn't well understand you!
However give a look here , maybe it helps you!
Ciao
its ok, no problem at all. thanx for the link but that didnt' work either.i really dont know whats going on with my phone, the internet worked flawlessly for the first 2 weeks i had my phone, then it just stopped working yesterday. well, it stopped working for every other program except for palringo, and i'm almost certain that it is not sms based, so i dont understand why that would work, and not other programs.
UPDATE:
ok, so i tried using the media new gprs connection with my 8125, same situation. i'm not sure what on earth it could be, but w/e it is, i can use palingro and aim pocket pc on my tilt, but i just can't get any data from web or anything else. go figure. i think i'm just gonna let give it up for the day, i've been working on it for 8 hours. maybe take a look at it again this weekend, i dont HAVE to have the net until monday, but even then i can still use wifi until i get this sorted out.
ok, so it looks like just about everything is working now on my phone except internet explorer while connected to the AT&T wireless EDGE/3G connection. I can download the maps while connected to Windows Live GPS, i'm able to sign on and chat while using agile messenger, i can download emails on the go with my outlook mailbox.
The only thing that is giving me a problem still is internet explorer/opera mobile. Anytime i type in a page it says "locating...", "opening..." "0 KB" while using IE then it just stops there and doesn't load a thing, and when using opera is says no connection detected. Anybody know what this could be? I dont see anywhere in IE or opera where you can change browser settings as far as connectivity...
very similar problem
Hi,
I'm having a very similar problem. I have an HTC TYTN II unlocked. It has worked beautifully for a couple of months and suddenly PIE would not work. It says Connecting...Locating...Opening and then hangs in there for a while until it error outs with "the connection has been lost"
I'm on T-Mobile full internet plan. The ROM is original stock ROM (UK). Curiously, the "push" emails continues to work, but PIE does not. I can't login to Live messenger either.
I have reset the phone to factory settings to no avail. I have called T-Mobile and they say my account is okay.
Any idea? This is really weird.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
elkavayo, where are you located? I am having the same problem today & I am in south florida. I just got off the phone with a T-Mobile tech & he tried something and said it appeared to be a network problem - not a phone issue. Wi-fi is working fine.
weebo523
I'm located in South Florida too, Miami to be precise. Those were my thoughts initially, but I called T-Mobile and they told me that there were no outages or network problems. This has been happening to me since Wednesday 8:00 AM.
Additionally, I swap SIMs with a friend, who also have T-Mobile, and configured his phone (HTC Touch unlocked) to use T-Mo full internet and it worked on his phone with my account!
My wide and daughter (Dash and T-Mo SDA) can also connect to thye net normally with their phones, so I don't think it is the service. Mine doesn't work with neither full nor T-zones. It does work with Wi-Fi though.
The mystery continues... thanksfor sharing your story. Hopefully we'll find a "cure" soon. I've beenthinking about "upgrading" to 6.1.....
i have the same problem with an unlocked Tilt running on my Rogers network.
all my messaging apps work but not Internet Explorer.
I'm in Fort Lauderdale and just had the same problem .. I have TWO 8525's (TyTn) on T-Mobile and also a Wing with T-Mobile, whats weird, is that both 8525's are having the problem, whereas the Wing is working fine.
There is definately an issue right now with South Florida and t-mobile.
elkavayo & vr24, this is strange. It seems to be happening exclusively to the Tilt / TyTn & in South Florida with one Rogers. And it seems like very few of us have the problem. I am usually pretty good at trouble shooting but this has me stumped.
totally, I have tried tons of settings, everything I can come up with, used their Data Configurator, I've tried 3 different ROMs, including Win Mo 6.1, and even on the TyTn forum, people with the 8525 in other parts of the country aren't having the issue.
It's really messed up, and as I said, my Wing works fine, lol... but I want my TyTn as the wing is having other malfunctions. the only problem is, how can you argue it's the network when one phone works and the other doesn't. there is SOMETHING that changed on the network though that is not accepting something with the tytn, in just our area, lol.. obviously. Just no idea what it is.
vr24 - at least you saved me the trouble of trying different ROMs, which I was just about to do I did try going to a backup with no luck. Do you think that something could have gone bad in the phone that connects us through GPRS?
I guess I will have to sleep on this for now. Hope you or someone figures this out while I'm sleeping - VBG
Lol... don't count on me too much to figure this one out. It's quite the nightmare really. And it's a shame. I just purchased my 2 Hermes and was thrilled to have them and they were working, now I have very expensive bricks basically!!!
Anyways, help would be awesome to anyone out there willing to continue troubleshooting this.
Well I have some "good" news... I'll be heading from Fort Lauderdale to Los Angeles this coming Wednesday, if we don't get it sorted out by then, and this magically works on the West Coast, I'm jam t-mobiles balls into a vice grip until they fix it. I'm REAL curious to see if it makes any difference.
Hi everyone,
I've been searching for a solution for my problem on here through the forum's search and the Google search all day but haven't found one yet so I'm finally throwing my hands up in frustration and posting hoping that some of the very talented and kind folks online can help me out.
I bought an AT&T Tilt last month and the pocket IE worked fine on it when I was using it with AT&T in Northern California. I am using Dutty's WM6 rom and the .17 radio.
I then flew out to Islamabad, Pakistan where I am currently staying. I used the SIM-unlocker found on this forum and everything seemed ok. Pocket IE continued to work on my network here (Mobilink, they have GPRS and EDGE). Then suddenly 2 weeks ago, pocket IE stopped working. Now whenever I try to load a page in it, it just gets stuck at "Locating" and the animation looking for the website keeps going in circles. It never finds the site. I've tried all kinds of different websites and always no luck.
At the same time, Opera works 100% without any sort of problem. Also I am able to use the built-in WM6 e-mail manager to check my Gmail over IMAP over the same GPRS/EDGE connection so I know my connection is fine. Pocket IE still doesn't work. I checked in connection settings to make sure there was no proxy enabled, that both my networks were set to my provider (mobilink)'s connection settings and I double-checked my connection settings with my provider. I feel as if it isn't their fault since all my colleagues are able to use their phones and the Internet and even on my device, the other applications such as Opera and built-in mail work. I also downloaded the Gmail java applet and even that works perfectly.
I'm at my wit's end about what I should do or try that could make a difference and I would sincerely appreciate any help anyone can offer. I've heard of a disablehiddenproxy option but have so far been unable to find that .cab file anywhere that I could download it...and I'm not sure if that fix would apply for me since I am no longer using the AT&T/Cingular network.
Please help! Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Hi,
I'm back with a solution to my own problem, it seems!
I did find the disablehiddenproxy.cab here and installed it.
I then did a soft reset (pushed the stylus into the little reset hole) and when the phone turned back on, pocket internet explorer is once again working perfectly.
Thank you XDA developers for providing all this information for free!
thanks - you just saved my day.
i was clueless to why my PIE didnt work all of a sudden - and now it works again...
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Hi,
I'm back with a solution to my own problem, it seems!
I did find the disablehiddenproxy.cab here and installed it.
I then did a soft reset (pushed the stylus into the little reset hole) and when the phone turned back on, pocket internet explorer is once again working perfectly.
Thank you XDA developers for providing all this information for free!
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Thanks a million, I got a Tilt to work on Rogers network and everything worked except for IE
this fixed it and now I got it all - awesome
Hi Everybody,,having problems with 3G speed and can't figure out why?
I am in Calgary, with HTC Tytn that I have had for 1 1/2 years. Ever since I could see them experimenting with 3G (could see the icon) I was waiting for the day that I could see the benefits of 3G. Well,, my speed of download is miserable, even with full 3G bars. I have all the proper icons showing up on top, 3G,, and when downloading internet page I see the H icon appear. An aquaintance in Winnipeg, said that he almost gets Wifi speed with 3G.. I have put a new sim card (thought that might be a reason,because it was out of my old blackberry). I am really depressed ,especially when I went to download an internet page on a demo iPhone and was blown away by the speed, which I don't have. I now hve Schaps 4.31 and Radio 1.51,, and basically,since owning the unit have never had the speed. Can anyone possibly help me figure out what is wrong? Perhaps over chat, skype? I have always used Lurch's settings whenever I put in a new Rom, and I feel that all HSDPA is enabled through Schaps config, and elsewhere. Any help would be most welcome. I still love my TyTN,, Thanks for any help you can give to me. I have of course IE browser, but also Opera
worked for me too
But what the heck caused it in the first place.
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Hi,
I'm back with a solution to my own problem, it seems!
I did find the disablehiddenproxy.cab here and installed it.
I then did a soft reset (pushed the stylus into the little reset hole) and when the phone turned back on, pocket internet explorer is once again working perfectly.
Thank you XDA developers for providing all this information for free!
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Wowwww....Thank you so much for the solution mate. Saved me a lot of time. You are awesome!!!
awesome, thanks!
That does fix it for me as well.
Thanks
You just saved me to. PIE stopped working for no reason a few months back. I have been looking for a fix without sucess untill now. Thanks once again!
Gas Addict - another thank you - worked like a charm.
For my education - can anyone explain the hidden proxy issue.
What is it? where did it come from? and where did it go to? and why was the problem intermittent? PIE locked only 80% of the time - sometimes it worked OK only to fail again... Tks again
The hidden proxy, is exactly what is says it is...A hidden proxy. The proxy allows AT&T users to connect to medianet services via their phone's internet connection. If you disable the proxy you will not be able to connect to medianet services (such as typing "home" and it takes you to AT&T's medianet site).
If you are not using AT&T then you should have it disabled in the first place. My guess is that some piece of software enabled the this proxy somehow. All the cab does is reset IE to autodetect if there is a proxy, which can also be done in Kaisertweaks.
Nothing too exciting to reveal, but since all you guys wondered what it did, i thought i'd look and let you know. It's just a provisional xml file that inputs some settings and registry edits.
Did you mean "If you are not using AT&T then you should have it DISabled in the first place"?
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Did you mean "If you are not using AT&T then you should have it DISabled in the first place"?
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yes, that is what i meant
It is fixed
Thank you for the CAB file. The file fixed my IE issue on unlocked ATT Tilt on Rogers Network.
Pocket IE back in line
No idea why my PocketInternetExplorer could all of a sudden only open locally stored .htm files, but nothing on internet anymore. OperaMini 4, OperaMobile 10 and SkyFire browsers continued working without any problem.
A few applications rely on a functioning PIE, so could not be used as a result.
Luckily this .CAB did the trick for me too, many thanks Gass Addict!
Gas Addict said:
Hi,
I'm back with a solution to my own problem, it seems!
I did find the disablehiddenproxy.cab here and installed it.
I then did a soft reset (pushed the stylus into the little reset hole) and when the phone turned back on, pocket internet explorer is once again working perfectly.
Thank you XDA developers for providing all this information for free!
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Worked like a charm - Thanks
/S/
I havent seen anyone else mention this, i duno if its a conflict or what.
If i use my google search bar off the today screen, or i open PIE sometimes (havent nailed it down yet as to when) my PIE will open like its searching for the google search or the address i put in. HOwever all i get is a blank white screen?
Resetting the tilt seems to cure this, then i see it does the connecting to medianet blah blah.... is there some sort of hibernate mode or some thing im not aware of? (seems like if i leave the phone on all nite charging this happens)
thnx
sorry if i missed this topic
it's not something I've ever seen:maybe a bug with live search and your ROM: which are you using?
Maybe now is a good time to switch to Opera Mobile 9.5 and set that as your default browser. PIE is enough to make me throw my phone at the wall, and If i were forced to use it again I wouldn't keep my Windows Mobile device.
Each to their own though!
If you don't already have Opera Mobile the latest cab is here which also includes a cab to set it as the default for everything, including the search bar.
you can also download the attached cab which is a standalone google today plugin if you'd like to try a different option. Google made their own today screen search engine but it doesn't seem to be available despite only being released a month or so ago.....strange.
I get the white screen from time to time after putting in push email and having a constant data connection. I enabled the disconnect button to the top connection popup and after disconnecting the phone reconnects and all is well.
i will check out the opera i am using the google today plugin and i have it if anyone needs it.
Thats part of the problem when i use it from time to time PIE opens w/ a blank screen. And i have skyfire, but i have to say for some things i just dont wanna deal w/ the frustration of that stupid zoom button and lag on skyfire so i just use PIE for things like opening streaming content etc.
Could very well be a push email type of problem, i use it constantly w/ 3 or 4 different accounts.
Im using the latest AT&t minus the bloatware.
ITs almost like it wont initiate the medianet .... actually thats exactly what it is. Because once i restart, and i hit search or open PIE it instantly says connecting to medianet........ when its blank it just sits there, never even tries to connect.
One more observation... like i said i use the email alot. Sometimes when i go hit email, then goto>folders>pick an account. It (the email account) will pop up and say disconnecting (??) is it maybe hanging up in the email ? and thats why PIE wont open>? Its exactly (if youve ever had this happen) if you have OPERA open, and you try to use PIE, youll get nothing. (at least in my situation) until you close the other browser. Does that sound right? Ive had it happen serveral times to me, i use SPB so i hit close all then reopen PIE and it works. If this is normal, then id have to assume im somehow getting stuck (connected) to my email.
I have experienced this issue as long as I've had my Tilt.
It also affected my ability to download traffic updates on Smartphlow (a live traffic map for the Seattle area).
Same exact behavior, PIE would just give blank white screen. No change after clearing temp files etc... Soft reset would always get me back on with no trouble (other than the PITA of having to restart the phone).
Now I've recently moved to a house that sits in a reception hole so the Tilt is always bumping back and forth between 3G (1-2 bars) and Edge (4-5 bars). Since moving in 6 weeks ago I've not had the same problem.
It definitely seems related to the length of time that a data connection has been active. I previously could only go 1-2 days tops without having to restart the phone to get good data.
Incidentally though, mail never had a problem, just PIE and the traffic app (didn't try any other apps that I can think of that might have shown the same behavior).
Unfortunately I don't know the true cause or have a solid solution for it, just more of a "me too" post with additional detail in hopes it's helpful for someone to pin down the root cause and find a solution.
+1 to that, It happens to me often, like every few days, no matter what rom I'm on. It seems to only effect pocket ie, opera mobile still works, email still works etc... only pocket ie fails.
I can usually correct it by going into airplane mode and then back which is a bit faster than a soft reset but its still annoying.
I've been experiencing it on the stock ATT rom as well as the many roms I've gone through since getting my tilt. I'm primarily on edge but do go through 3g about once a week or so.
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+1 to that, It happens to me often, like every few days, no matter what rom I'm on. It seems to only effect pocket ie, opera mobile still works, email still works etc... only pocket ie fails.
I can usually correct it by going into airplane mode and then back which is a bit faster than a soft reset but its still annoying.
I've been experiencing it on the stock ATT rom as well as the many roms I've gone through since getting my tilt. I'm primarily on edge but do go through 3g about once a week or so.
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There is our answer then: simply stop using the dreadful Pocket Internet Explorer altogether. It's completely unsuited to QVGA screens and suffers from an inability to support HTML pages correctly and consistantly. Opera Mobile 9.5 on the other hand makes browsing beautiful. It's even a lot faster than PIE over GPRS.
I am having problems as well with PIE. It just refuses to connect to any data signal (Wifi, HSDPA, 3G). All of the other browsers work though. I am a mainly use opera mini, but that is not ideal for cirtain situations. I dont really like PIE but to be honest sometimes I need it as there are issues when I use Opera 9.5 (not being able to use the hardware keyboard, messing around with sound notification settings using the official beta). Has anybody out there got a solution that doesn't involve a hard reset? I have searched around and not found a suitable solution so far. By the way I am using a UK T-mobile Vario 3 with stock rom.
I am running TOR 2.1 and also tried quite a few different roms but none of them seem to fix this issue I have.
MSN Messenger 90% of the time refuses to connect, even with a very strong signal (shows H) it just has a permanent beach ball and then comes back saying it cannot connect.
Tried it over WIFI and it works fine, connects within seconds.
I am on 3 Network if that makes any difference??
Has anyone else got random connection problems with MSN? or even better if someone here knows a fix!
Cheers
Dale
What 3G provider are you with? I know T-Mobile here in the UK blocks Windows Live, and strictly doesn't allow Messenger though it does work once activated through WiFi
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What 3G provider are you with? I know T-Mobile here in the UK blocks Windows Live, and strictly doesn't allow Messenger though it does work once activated through WiFi
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I am with H3G which fully support live as I am using it with x-series tariff just annoyed that most of the time i cannot even use it!
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What 3G provider are you with? I know T-Mobile here in the UK blocks Windows Live, and strictly doesn't allow Messenger though it does work once activated through WiFi
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That's simply not true. I use MSN and Windows Live all the time on my Touch Pro on T-Mobile with WnW.
The chances are you have the proxy box checked for that connection. Uncheck it and it will work fine.
Though I do seem to be having a problem sending hotmail from my Touch Pro. Syncing and receiving is fine, but sending seems a bit hit and miss. Other than that all Windows Live and MSN Messenger functions work fine.
Syphon Filter said:
That's simply not true. I use MSN and Windows Live all the time on my Touch Pro on T-Mobile with WnW.
The chances are you have the proxy box checked for that connection. Uncheck it and it will work fine.
Though I do seem to be having a problem sending hotmail from my Touch Pro. Syncing and receiving is fine, but sending seems a bit hit and miss. Other than that all Windows Live and MSN Messenger functions work fine.
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Just checked and the proxy settings are all empty, tried a hard and software reset as well as no tweaks all with the same results, maybe its a problem with 3's network connectivity?
daleski75 said:
Just checked and the proxy settings are all empty, tried a hard and software reset as well as no tweaks all with the same results, maybe its a problem with 3's network connectivity?
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Hrm, very possible. I might be worth checking with H3G, I thought all their handsets shipped with Windows Live and MSN Messenger as standard??
They do normally but I got my touch diamond from hk a couple of months back, so not officially supported i guess.
daleski75 said:
They do normally but I got my touch diamond from hk a couple of months back, so not officially supported i guess.
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No I meant that seeing as it comes on all their other devices you would think it would work from your Diamond, H3G dont even have the Diamond do they?
My MSN Live seems to always try to connect via 3G / GPRS - even when there is a Wi-Fi network connected. Is there some sort of setting to fix this?
p3eps said:
My MSN Live seems to always try to connect via 3G / GPRS - even when there is a Wi-Fi network connected. Is there some sort of setting to fix this?
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Interesting, my Windows Live/Hotmail syncing seems to do the same.
Hi check the time settings on your device or the PC you sync your device on, amke sure time is set correctly. I had identical problem before.
daleski75 said:
I am running TOR 2.1 and also tried quite a few different roms but none of them seem to fix this issue I have.
MSN Messenger 90% of the time refuses to connect, even with a very strong signal (shows H) it just has a permanent beach ball and then comes back saying it cannot connect.
Tried it over WIFI and it works fine, connects within seconds.
I am on 3 Network if that makes any difference??
Has anyone else got random connection problems with MSN? or even better if someone here knows a fix!
Cheers
Dale
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Hello,
I have the same problem, with a Touch HD. Had the problem with original ROM, now I upgraded to Dutty's WM 6.5 ROM and still the same.
I also am on 3 (Three) UK, but I don't think that's the problem, for 2 reasons:
1 - Sometimes Messenger and Live Mail do connect and work.
2 - If you try to log in to Messenger the first time, you see that it's dialing a data connection and connecting. Then after 5 mins of spinning ball you get the error that can't connect. Now, if you disconnect the data connection, and try to log in with Messenger, you see the same spinning ball, and after a while the same error, but this time it did not even dial a data connection!
So I must conclude that there's something wrong in the way Messenger and Live use the data connection on our mobiles. Seems that sometimes Messenger is unable to send/receive data? :-S
Any help appreciated.
Matteo
PS: I also opened a thread in MS Windows Mobile forum, but without any solution so far...
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsmobile/thread/da027a32-710d-4da9-a409-2ed4cdaaeeab
I gave on msn messenger and used Palringo, which allows to add various IM services to it.
Try that might work
sbonera said:
I gave on msn messenger and used Palringo, which allows to add various IM services to it.
Try that might work
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Dear sbonera
Yes, that works. I use nimbuzz as alternative client. That also works.
But this is a workaround for IM, not a solution.
Furthermore, it's not only a problem of IM. Fact is that I cannot synchronise my Live Mail and my Live Contacts, either.
Cheers
maTTeo
Does anyone know exactly what is causing this problem because it continues to happen across different ROMs and different Radios. Is there some fundamental reason why the X1 can't maintain a connection with IM clients?
I'm on T-mobile in the UK and running the valkyrie_V3 WWE ROM. Windows live messenger will disconnect if i put the phone into standby for as little as a minute and sometimes even when I'm in the middle of messaging. I keep getting messages saying "wireless connection not available trying to reconnect" or something similar.
I've tried IM+ and while that doesn't give disconnection messages it's doing the same thing as i have tested it using different accounts.
I can't get ebuddy working on this ROM because it won't let me enter the password for some odd reason but that has had the same problem with other ROMS in the past.
Has anyone found a solution to this or is it something to do with T-mobile settings?
I should point out that throughout all this i maintain a good signal of at least 2 bars and according to the phone the data connection hasn't dropped.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
i used to use AOL's own mobile-based IM/chat client for AIM, and it always kept me connected without problems no matter what. only problem was it was INSANELY slow.
i've switched to slick, which i'm not crazy about, and i'm having the same problems as you. i'll randomly get disconnected with the phone sitting with full HSDPA reception, not going into sleep or standby....i thought it was just slick's crappy programming
Which network are you on?
Also are you 100% sure AOL used to stay connected because i thought the same thing about IM+ but a lot of my messages weren't getting returned. I signed into 2 different accounts, one on PC one on phone to test and it turned out the same thing was happening just not as obviously.
This is really frustrating, my old K800i used to stay connected to windows live for days at a time, my friends blackberry also has no trouble staying connected.
i too have the same problem, we need the xda gurus to fix this, hopefully they would be able to do so in the near future
Solaris81 said:
Which network are you on?
Also are you 100% sure AOL used to stay connected because i thought the same thing about IM+ but a lot of my messages weren't getting returned. I signed into 2 different accounts, one on PC one on phone to test and it turned out the same thing was happening just not as obviously.
This is really frustrating, my old K800i used to stay connected to windows live for days at a time, my friends blackberry also has no trouble staying connected.
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pretty sure it was connected constantly. i had some pretty lengthy text sessions and i never got any error messages (IM not received, user not on, signed off, etc). i mean, i can never be 100% sure, but pretty sure. i only used it fo ra couple weeks before getting rid of it, it was creeping death slow for some reason
I'm too really desperate for a solution to this problem. My device is a HTC Touch Pro2 running Windows Mobile 6.5.
The case is that I will launch a new business site in just a few weeks whos customers are for the biggest part young intellectuals more often than seldomly really integrated with the modern IT-development. Hence I've always wanted to add the Windows Live messenger plugin to the site so that our customers can have a live chat completly anonymously without having their IP traced and logged which is the case for the markets paid services. Furthermore, the msn live plugin is completly ad free and doesn't cost a penny. The paid services out there that other corporations use for their live chat often comes with an URL to the host even though the customer are paying for their live chat module. The most important part though, is that I can bring with me Windows Live Messenger wherever I go which for the most part is a complex and not even that usual solution in the paid service segment. I think you can understand my problem now =) I'm just desperate to have my live messenger in the phone ALWAYS and ALWAYS stay connected.
For an example of the plugin I'm refering too have a look at my personal website:
martinandersson.com
A little more specific information describing what really happens with my device:
Windows Live version: 10.7.0061.0500.2000. Language: Swedish (Also the language of my OS).
I am running the client non-exclusivly. It always stays in the taskbar and never quit on me unlike what happens to programs that stay open running in the background for a longer period of time. In that way, it works great.
The main Windows Live window's (which are displayed and runned as a seperate program) options/settings are set to sync my e-mail although the frequency are set to "manual" and the other options below this drop box are for some reason greyed out. I guess this has to be interpreted as if live doesn't sync my mail at all, which I like being that I do not have an hotmail account or need this feature in any way.
The status of my phone always always show two small 3G icons (one just '3G' and one '3G' above a meter) and if I click in this field I see a ticking clock which shows that it is indeed connected to internet ever since my phone's last reboot. This has never been in any other way. Still, I did download the DiamondTweak and enabled the "internet always on" feature, but again, I do not think that really was the issue and from what I can tell, the DiamondTweak just hasn't made any difference at all.
One detail of great importance is this; Whenever I browse the internet, update my rss feeds or switch to the messenger contact list window through the taskbar, the 3G symbols changes to display an H. That tells me that this "H" must show for the phone to have a "real" internet connection? Could this be the trick, one has to find a fix to always have the H show? If that would be the case, I just can't understand why the phone says it is indeed connected to the internet when there's just a 3G-symbol in the status. Anyways..
Even though the messenger dies completly and just as what this threads owner wrote, shows a "wireless connection lost" message when I swich to its contact list window, it sometimes live for quite a while. The thing is that it just doesn't get the message instantly. The phone can be in standby mode (really haven't figured that thing out, everybody keeps saying "standby" mode but for what I can tell all that happens is that the display goes of) for sure, and then I write myself a message through the live chat plugin on my site but it takes about 6 to 10 minutes for the phone to give a sound and notice me of this message. And again, for the most part the live messenger doesn't stay alive for that long, the sites plugin goes offline and then if I turn the phone's display on and access the live messenger it says that the wireless connection has been lost and reconnects.
Moreoever, it never gets my plugin to go back online either. For that part to happen, I have to first get online with a desktop client and then again login with my phone. For if I stay online with the desktop client, the phone's client is indeed alive, but won't receive any messages. I have to reconnect with my phone so that my desktop client gets thrown out. But of course, is just a matter of time before my live chat module and my phone's client gets offline and I have to do everything over again. The really annoying part is that the phone's client dies a long time before the site's plugin catch up and goes offline. Hence I might loose a lot of customers who think they are chatting with me but never get a reply.
Given the description above, I think the problem really is that live messenger doesn't ping or talk with its server that often, IF the phone is in standby mode. If it isn't, if the display is turned on, I recieve my messages instantly and everything works just fine. Sure there must be an easy fix for this problem, a small edit to be done in a config file somewhere?
All help and all problem experience is much appreciated.