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Orange SPV M1500 -- Question...

I just purchased an SPV M1500. Is this the same as the XDA IIi? I bought it already unlocked. Are there any differences in the ROM besides splash screens / logos? Is there a way to put the O2 XDA IIi ROM on this device?
Last question... I bought it from someone in the UK, and I live in the US, I currently subscribe to Cingular Wireless. Has anyone had issues with this?
Any reply would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Brock

Same device, slightly different looks.
All Alpine ROMs will work and the splash images etc can all be changed, at ROM upgrade or later. Find a ROM you want and follow instructions.
The device is tri-band so long as you live in an area where you don't need quad band you'll be OK.
Any more questions, there are plenty of people here to ask, just don't ask the dreaded WM5 question, the answer will be NO.
Good luck.

LOL!! I got that loud and clear. I thought people were supposed to be reading through the forum for their answer before posting stupid/redundant questions??? NO WM5, at least yet. I don't have a desire for that right now anyways. What would be the benefit?

The earth is so small. You know what, you have bought the phone from me on ebay, Brock Miller. Have you received the phone yet? I could give you help on upgrading the phone, if you needed it. At the moment, if you wanted the latest rom, then it is imate PDA2 ROM.

Nam? Oh my gosh!!! I can't believe you frequent this site as well? Wow... Thats cool. It is indeed a small world. No I haven't received the SPV-1500 yet, I was just asking a few questions about it before hand. I can't wait to get it though. I'll drop you an e-mail when it comes in. Have a good one!

It's nice to meet you here as well. The phone will arrive very soon. Keep the eyes on your work place, you will need to sign for it. Give me a sound when you need helps and have fun with the phone.

Yes! It was.
Will I personally have to sign for it? Or can my shipping department sign for it?
Also, what phone do you have now?

as long as you could arrange someone to sign for it, then that's fine. I think I just buy a cheap phone for now, untill the new HTC Muse comes out. This would be the best phone ever.

Except for the 4GB of storage, and the camera it looks like the HTC Universal has better specs. Why the muse? I really would have liked to have bought an HTC Universal, but I couldn't find any that were reasonably priced, .

Simply, because it is very compact, has everything that I wanted. I originally had the VPA compact which is HTC Magician, but it doesn't have wifi built in that why I sold it. I also did have HTC Universal ( SPV M5000 ) once and I do not advice you to get one. No only because of the price ( I got it for £250 ), it is also very very slow ( before buy it, I thought it would be very fast, but it's not, even slower than HTC wizard ) and bloody massive. I had it for one day and sold it the next day, you can imagine how dissapointed I was.

The only good thing about the HTC Universal is the infrared transfer speed ( 4mb/s ) and range ( 7 metres ) which is good for TV remote control softwares. However, that is not good enough for the price.

Wow, that would be very diappointing. What did you not like about the HTC Alpine? Too bulky also?

The HTC Alpine is not as big as the HTC Universal and HTC Blue Angle ( actually it is quite compact for such a powerful device ), has wifi built in, powerful processor ( don't be confused with the Intel PXA 270 520MHZ of HTC Universal, it is Intel PXA 272 520MHZ ) and better bluetooth than other HTC device ( support file transfer service and more ). The only thing that I do not like about it is that the infared range is too short ( 70 cm ) for Remote control programs which is the same on other HTC devices, except for the HTC Universal ( 7 metres ) and HTC magian ( 3 metres ) ( that's why I sold it ). But if you can live with it, then the HTC Alpine is the best Mobile Phone/Pocket PC to have at the moment in term of features and price.

I just received the SPV M1500!! Even though you tried, the power adapters that you sent were the wrong kind. The U.S. uses 110 V. Also, all looks ok, but it showed more wear than I thought it would. There was a scratch on the screen, a tiny crack just above the "joystick" hole, and the external antenna port hole cap is missing (not a huge deal, just doesn't look as good with out it). Do you know if TomTom has a US map available to buy?

As my description the phone is used. I am so sorry, if it dissapointed you. TOMTOM and USA map are already included on the DVD, just follow the installation guide that is also in the in the box. Let me know anything that I could help you with. I will try to find the cover at the back for you, if I could not find it, then I would refund you some money, so you could get a new silicon case for it. Really sorry.

No way!! No this is fine. Its still a very nice phone. If you can find the cover, that would be nice, but I don't expect a refund by any means. I still got a good price. I need to find an AC adapter for this cradle though. I imagine that won't be too hard to come by, I just hope it doesn't cost too terribly much. Thanks again for the phone. I am overall pleased. It is so much better than my Wallaby. Also, I can charge it in the wallaby cradle for now. I was lucky, it fits, not quite right, but good enough. Thanks again. Also, I see where there is indeed USA maps with TomTom included. Sorry about that.
Brock

Or can I just send you some softwares in return? Just name the softwares, I will find them for you. I am now selling some softwares for pocket pc on ebay, just take a look, if you like them, let me know I will send them to you. Also I just find out that if you installed Imate PDA2 ROM UPDATE, the infrared range will be incresed to about 3 metres. If you was not so sure how to install ROM UPDATE, let me know, I will give you the web link with installation guide.

Hello Coldwave
sorry to gatecrash on your post , i have the o2 flavour of this device, would i be able to flash it with the imate rom, also do you know if i could use an orange rom as well, as my work is now changing to orange from o2.
cheers
Gregor

Hello Coldwave
sorry to gatecrash on your post , i have the o2 flavour of this device, would i be able to flash it with the imate rom, also do you know if i could use an orange rom as well, as my work is now changing to orange from o2.
cheers
Gregor

All HTC Alpine devices have the same hardwares. Therefore, it is possible to change ROM between different made like Imate, Qtek, Orange, etc. However, you must follow some steps to avoid Country ID error.

I'm going to exchange my Tilt under warranty. Anything I should be worried about?

I've installed a few ROMs from this place onto it. I did not SuperCID (just used a HardSPL bypass) it nor SIM Unlock it.
Does this mean that I should be able to undo everything that has been done?
How do I remove HardSPL? Is that possible?
How can I install an original AT&T ROM on it? Where do I find those? I think I found one with Alex's Kitchen, but I'm not sure if that's a full version or what. And what about the AT&T bloat?
Sorry if this is a noob question. I glanced through the Tilt-specific Wiki and the Kaiser Wiki and I didn't see the answer to any of these questions in the FAQs.

see the wiki, there's a howto link for reverting your spl

Oh, awesome. I missed that. I think it was because I was mainly looking through the Tilt-specific Wiki. My mistake.
Here's the thread in case someone else happens accross this one in search of the same advice.
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/335568/

Just install the original AT&T Rom and you should be fine. I had to send mine in for a warranty exchange last Friday after the radio conked out on it, and got my new one on Monday of this week. Anway, I used the HardSPL too, and I just reflashed the AT&T Rom onto it, put it in the box, slapped the return label on it and sent it on it's merry way
Edit-Somebody on here said they don't check the SPL when they get the defective unit, just that it has the AT&T Rom on it. In fact, I bet they just chuck it in the recyling bin and write it off.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they half inspect the phones. They must get more exchanges than they could deal with. They possibly check the device thoroughly though because it's a high end (dollar) device. Who knows?

I worked in the service department at Best Buy for a while, and I know we didn't check anything when customers returned products. All we did was looked at the stickers on the outside of the products to make sure the serial number, model number, etcetera all matched up, and that was it. As long as those matched up, we could send the devices back to their manufacturers or out to our service centers.
I figured AT&T would operate the same way, but from what I've read on these forums, they do a pretty thorough check. I just wanted to make sure I covered all grounds. Better safe than sorry, y'know?

Yeah, that's true. The guy at the store looked my phone over, and even changed SIM's and agreed something was wrong with the phone's radio, so that's in the notes too.

I found the post I was talking about, it's the first on on the page-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568&page=23
"Just FYI; I recently returned my 8525 to ATT because it was not charging with the car charger.
I flashed back to the latest ATT ROM and then did a second hard reset. I heard last week from ATT the phone was accepted as a core with no problem.
I was told by a friend at ATT that they don't look at CID, but different splash screens will for sure trip up a return.
Just my experience; hope it helps someone."

Warranty issue?
The touchscreen of my phone is not working. Good thing is that i bought it just 8 months before so i guess its still under warranty? (is it?)
After looking around in the forum i get it reverted back to original locked state and now i want to get my warranty from ATT people. Can you please let me know how to proceed? And if anyone has already done this then what steps he followed? Do we need to send our phone back first and then get the newer phone? Or do they give us the newer phone and then we need to send them the older one back?

ceo.mtcl said:
The touchscreen of my phone is not working. Good thing is that i bought it just 8 months before so i guess its still under warranty? (is it?)
After looking around in the forum i get it reverted back to original locked state and now i want to get my warranty from ATT people. Can you please let me know how to proceed? And if anyone has already done this then what steps he followed? Do we need to send our phone back first and then get the newer phone? Or do they give us the newer phone and then we need to send them the older one back?
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Just call AT$T, they will check your account to see if you are within warranty. If your problem is within warranty guidelines, they will send you a new (refurb) tilt or if you press, a new (refurb) Fuze ( I would rather have the Tilt ) It usually arrives within five days. It comes with a pre paid return envelope. Take the battery and sim and back cover off the old phone, put them in the new phone. Drop the old one in the envelope. Drop it in the post and you are all set.
If you fail to send the old one back within the time allotted they will bill your account of the full value of the replacement phone. Quick and easy, my replacement phone is over a year old and has worked flawlessly.

My Tilt is maybe 8 months old and decided to stop charging the other night. Unfortunately, I installed a Manila 2D ROM on it some time ago and because it will not recognize the USB cable, I can't roll it back. I'm going to call AT&T today and see about having a replacement shipped to me. I don't think it'll be a problem since it won't turn on and it'll probably be a mail replacement like you described. I'm going to press to get a Fuze, when I ordered the Tilt I paid good money to get it new instead of refurbished and it still stopped working after well under a year of use. If I'm getting a refurbished replacement I'd like the newest model.

KentM said:
My Tilt is maybe 8 months old and decided to stop charging the other night. Unfortunately, I installed a Manila 2D ROM on it some time ago and because it will not recognize the USB cable, I can't roll it back. I'm going to call AT&T today and see about having a replacement shipped to me. I don't think it'll be a problem since it won't turn on and it'll probably be a mail replacement like you described. I'm going to press to get a Fuze, when I ordered the Tilt I paid good money to get it new instead of refurbished and it still stopped working after well under a year of use. If I'm getting a refurbished replacement I'd like the newest model.
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Unless of course it is a battery issue, and they put in a new battery, see that you have used unapproved software and mark your S/N as immediately out of warranty,.....................I'm just sayin................................

You think that's an issue even exchanging it through the mail?

KentM said:
You think that's an issue even exchanging it through the mail?
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Do you think they stay in business by by just mailing a new phone to anyone who says, " this is broken, give me anew fuze ?'

I just exchanged my tilt today. My screen broke (the colors became all white and inversed and weird) so I called ATT and they told me to go to this special service warranty store. They looked it over quickly and gave me a new tilt no problem... just make sure you flash the original ATT rom back on it. (They didnt notice I broke the VOID sticker in the screwhole hehe)
PS. I got my tilt last April, and I'm not sure how long the warranty lasts. The guy said I have 90 extra days on this new phone.

denco7 said:
<snip> If your problem is within warranty guidelines, they will send you a new (refurb) tilt or if you press, a new (refurb) Fuze ( I would rather have the Tilt ) </snip>
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Just out of curiosity, why would you rather have the tilt? I've been thinking of upgrading from the tilt to the fuze...

d_stew said:
Just out of curiosity, why would you rather have the tilt? I've been thinking of upgrading from the tilt to the fuze...
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Basically , you can have a brand new Fuze the way AT$T and M$ want it, or you can have a Tilt the way you want it. At present there are three times as many custom roms, more ways to customize it and I absolutely will not give up my Tilt screen. After a year of customizing my Tilt to perfection on this site, there is absolutely nothing about the Fuze that interests me.

I'm thinking about sending my Tilt back. It's bricked for some reason. I bought a new (OEM) battery because I thought I had battery problems, still nothing. If AT&T gets a phone that won't even power up what happens, I have hard spl and a flashed rom?

adstevenson said:
If AT&T gets a phone that won't even power up what happens, I have hard spl and a flashed rom?
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If they manage to resusitate it or even read the flash memory contents (if it's possible to hotwire a car, who knows what can be done with a TyTN II and both of these would be possible), then when they see it's not running an approved ROM/SPL they may act like a bull and charge!
Anyone who runs a custom ROM on a phone thats still under warranty runs that risk should a problem occur that makes it difficult to flash back to original spec.
denco7 I agree entirely with your comments re the importance of a tilting screen but now HTC have developed the Touch Pro 2 (which has a tilting screen) there may soon be a real successor for the Kaiser released to the market. I don't know which providers will pick it up or where it'll be sold though.

Flying Kiwi said:
If they manage to resusitate it or even read the flash memory contents (if it's possible to hotwire a car, who knows what can be done with a TyTN II and both of these would be possible), then when they see it's not running an approved ROM/SPL they may act like a bull and charge!
Anyone who runs a custom ROM on a phone thats still under warranty runs that risk should a problem occur that makes it difficult to flash back to original spec.
Does the same thing apply if it's not under warranty but has insurance from at&t on it?
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ORANGE owners. Is Yours Orangised??

This is very interesting as my phone had no orange customization on either. BUT!
If you look through the handbook ( ON the CD )
Check out the themes and wallpaper shown there?
Also look through the programs that are listed there..
ORANGE downloads
ORANGE tv
ORANGE music.
None of these are on your phone.
Now i`ve spoken to orange on 4 occasions about this. I thought i was a one of and some how they had managed to forget to install said items. But like the man at orange said there should be at least an orange logo when starting up.
So now i`m confused. i`ve just got back from the post office as i`ve sent mine back.
Please can any body tell me if they have an orange diamond with the above items on.

I suspect Orange rushed it out ahead of the iphone 3g and probably didnt manage to get there customisations ready.

I only have the orange logo on the back. Nothing more but is that a great loss?

Mmm spoke to Orange again after seeing the comments on here. Now they are telling me its a generic phone and comes with no orange customization on it. The lady said that the missing stuff could be activated with a pin number from the data and fax team!! This i doubt but who knows?

Spoke to someone in an orange shop and they say theres are all branded with the orange menus etc!!

Mine was Orange packaging but that was it. The phone seems pretty much stock HTC

Mine too is orange-peeled, so to speak.
The interesting thing is that the pdf guide that comes with it, details all the orange customisation and programs. So Orange must be planning to put their stuff on it.
Mine was from phones4u if it helpls

I would advise those thinking about getting this phone on Orange to do so ASAP. Clearly it was supposed to be branded, but was rushed out to combat the iPhone launch.

Mine has no Orange branding except the logo on the back of the case. I'm not too worried though as I would only have had to get rid of all the branding!!

darthbane2k said:
I would advise those thinking about getting this phone on Orange to do so ASAP. Clearly it was supposed to be branded, but was rushed out to combat the iPhone launch.
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I'm hoping that they forget to brand the Touch Pro when they eventually release it. I'm really tempted by the Diamond but the lack of SD card expansion is putting me off.

Ever since Orange were constantly accused have having no handset selection they have released key models with no branding quickly and then followed up later. It's clearly a tactic to compete with the iPhone. What are the French handsets from Orange like?

Same here - no branding apart from the logo on the back cover.

johnboywilson said:
This is very interesting as my phone had no orange customization on either. BUT!
If you look through the handbook ( ON the CD )
Check out the themes and wallpaper shown there?
Also look through the programs that are listed there..
ORANGE downloads
ORANGE tv
ORANGE music.
None of these are on your phone.
Now i`ve spoken to orange on 4 occasions about this. I thought i was a one of and some how they had managed to forget to install said items. But like the man at orange said there should be at least an orange logo when starting up.
So now i`m confused. i`ve just got back from the post office as i`ve sent mine back.
Please can any body tell me if they have an orange diamond with the above items on.
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Stupid question, but why would you want Orange branding on it, other than to access Orange downloads, TV and Music (and these will ony be links to the various sites and would probably be easily obtainable from elsewhere)? As an Orange TyTN II owner I can tell you that their customization slows the phone down. The best thing I ever did was flash the stock HTC ROM to it.
I was toying with the idea of getting the Diamond, especially after reading the comments about it being unbranded except for the logo on the battery case, but the lack of SD card slot is a deal breaker for me, so I'm holding out for the Touch Pro, especially if they again release it unbranded.
Personally I think you might have made a mistake sending the phone back in order to get one with Orange Bloatware on it...

Teppic24 said:
Stupid question, but why would you want Orange branding on it, other than to access Orange downloads, TV and Music (and these will ony be links to the various sites and would probably be easily obtainable from elsewhere)? As an Orange TyTN II owner I can tell you that their customization slows the phone down. The best thing I ever did was flash the stock HTC ROM to it.
I was toying with the idea of getting the Diamond, especially after reading the comments about it being unbranded except for the logo on the battery case, but the lack of SD card slot is a deal breaker for me, so I'm holding out for the Touch Pro, especially if they again release it unbranded.
Personally I think you might have made a mistake sending the phone back in order to get one with Orange Bloatware on it...
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Mmmm me too i thought it was a fault but now looking at the posts i wish i`d have kept it.
Oh well i`ll see what my replacement one is like when i get it...

mine doesnt have any orange software on it either and thank god. orange software has always slowed the system down.
mine doesnt have the remote desktop mobile application that the manual detail - iv also seen a youtube vid showing it. anyone else got this?

No branding? Here's hoping mine doesn't have it either when it comes tomorrow.

Better not do any firmware updates by entering you Orange Serial Number too, as im sure those will be branded.
Stick to ROM updates from this forum.

TheBrit said:
No branding? Here's hoping mine doesn't have it either when it comes tomorrow.
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Would appreciate that you let the gang here know, considering yours is part of the second allocation of stock.

just spoke to Orange CS who said they are getting stock in today, i'll be ordering mine later so i'll let everyone know what it comes with (hope there's no bloatware on it!)

a fast "search" for "orange" could give you this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407474&highlight=orange
and 2-3 more, orange related. please use search,
thank you for keeping it (the forum) clean of clutter!

Orange Diamond Recall?

I got this diamond upgrade last Friday.
Today I was told that Orange recalled all HTC Diamond due to a system problem. Is this news true?

ehe12 said:
I got this diamond upgrade last Friday.
Today I was told that Orange recalled all HTC Diamond due to a system problem. Is this news true?
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i still have mine
must say orange CS have tryed to call me twice in the last 2 weeks...
and i keep missing the calls...opss

Did they ask you to return the phone and are they replacing with new one ? . Is this official news ?

They haven't asked for mine back.
I received mine on the first day of launch and I was pleased it didn't have any orange crap on it. If they are recalling then it must be to flash em with the late arriving orange ROM.
(UK)

I've had mine a few weeks now (having got it through Phones4U rather than direct from Orange) but haven't heard anything from either company regarding a recall.
Something to look forward to!

chand4u76 said:
Did they ask you to return the phone and are they replacing with new one ? . Is this official news ?
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im on the phone to CS now
CS now nothing about it......WELL THE PERSON I SPOKE TO ANYWAY

liamhere said:
im on the phone to CS now
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Let us know how you get on Liam, i've got one of the original Orange ones too.

Update That Post
cs i spoke to knows nothing about it

ehe12 said:
I got this diamond upgrade last Friday.
Today I was told that Orange recalled all HTC Diamond due to a system problem. Is this news true?
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They are probably trying to trick people in to sending them back so that they can put the Orange Bastardware ROM on them...

Maybe its to fix the crappy 3g reception

This news is rubbish ill be happy to let you know.
Its more likely someone misinurperting what happened at our warehouses.
We tried to load Orange software on them, they failed quality checks and we reloaded generic software on them so they could be released for sale.
There is deffo no recall!
I would know!! Believe me! lol

The Orange software that good then??!

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The Orange software that good then??!
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LOL

Like anyone here would care!!!
All roms are relfashed within days of purchased! If its any good or not!
Orange software will be fine for mainstream user

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The Orange software that good then??!
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About as good as the T-Mobile software maybe. Orange send thier Diamonds out without the value-added crapware. Have T-Mobile put thier crapware on thier Diamonds? I would be well p*ssed of if I got an MDA Compact IV to find out that they had replaced the cool-looking black 3DTF interface from HTC and replaced it with a corporate in-yer-face pink and white one.
Edit: Just watched a YouTube of a Pink and White themed MDA Compact IV - nasty

A friend last night told me about the recall, as he works for an indpendant phone store. They have had the unbranded diamond recalled because they are over heating and going pop.
Im just waiting for orange to call up now and ask for it back.

sutt359 said:
A friend last night told me about the recall, as he works for an indpendant phone store. They have had the unbranded diamond recalled because they are over heating and going pop.
Im just waiting for orange to call up now and ask for it back.
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im not surprised. The Diamond gets extremely hot.. would not be surprised if there is an overall recall anytime soon

recall
Just spoke to Orange in the UK and they are not recalling the handsets

ehe12 said:
I got this diamond upgrade last Friday.
Today I was told that Orange recalled all HTC Diamond due to a system problem. Is this news true?
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Probably told to you by another Iphone lover no doubt.

have had a problem with my diamond taking ages to charge and battery getting spoke to orange and they acked for rom version ,then then told me that the phone has to recalled so i'm getting a new phone,( i bet they just want me to have the orange software version )

Have Orange UK shelved the HTC Touch Diamond?

Hi All,
I got my Touch Diamond from Orange 2 weeks ago and a mate at work liked it so much he wanted one. His contract with orange was due for renewal yesterday so he asked for the touch diamond as a upgrade. They told him the Touch Diamond was not available has it has been shelved or put into quaratine were the words they used because of software issues.
I've just rung orange myself if its true and customer care could not answer the question or if it was getting recalled, nobody had heard about it in the call centre.
I told them HTC had released a new ROM for it but i could not download it because my phone was bought from orange and i must wait for the orange update. I asked if it would affect my warrenty if i downloaded the official HTC ROM update they said it may affect the 6 month orange warrenty but not the 12 month HTC warrenty you have.
Has anyone else heard if orange have shelved the phone?
Thanks,
Mick.

Its still on their web site!!

samsungq1 said:
Hi All,
I got my Touch Diamond from Orange 2 weeks ago and a mate at work liked it so much he wanted one. His contract with orange was due for renewal yesterday so he asked for the touch diamond as a upgrade. They told him the Touch Diamond was not available has it has been shelved or put into quaratine were the words they used because of software issues.
I've just rung orange myself if its true and customer care could not answer the question or if it was getting recalled, nobody had heard about it in the call centre.
I told them HTC had released a new ROM for it but i could not download it because my phone was bought from orange and i must wait for the orange update. I asked if it would affect my warrenty if i downloaded the official HTC ROM update they said it may affect the 6 month orange warrenty but not the 12 month HTC warrenty you have.
Has anyone else heard if orange have shelved the phone?
Thanks,
Mick.
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Sounds like the opeerative has mis-understood the situation to me.
They are having problems putting the Orange Bastardware on it. It sounds like it is this process that has been shelved, rather than the phone itself. Orange would love the phone to be branded to buggery, but as they can't they are having to release them with a stock HTC ROM on them. Get your friend to try again - if necessary speak speak to someone higher in authority.
Alternatively get him to upgrade via their website.
If the phone has been shelved then it shouldn't be available on their website, yet it is.

Thanks Teppic i'll tell him to try that.
I still don't know what ROM to try or if i should wait for orange ROM. If i tried one of the ROMS on this site and something went wrong with the phone in the future, would i still be able to put the original ROM back on?

A email from a friend that works for Orange retail, suggested that he has 30 for sale in his store.
With regards to Flashing back to orange ROM and SPL (this is possible) but in past experiance, if you have ornage care, then I would not bother... I returned many a Orange branded Nokia or HTC with no comeback