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touchscreen inaccurate?

Has anyone else notice the touch screen being very inaccurate on their kaiser? I mostly notice it in the dialer. For example i press 5 and it does 8 instead. Sometimes i even hit 2 and get 8 which is really bizzare. I'm using the HTC dialer, so maybe thats the issue. I'm going to switch to the windows dialer tonight and see if thats any better. I also have problems getting it to recognize presses at all sometimes. Sometimes i have to press the screen so hard that it distorts (i know thats bad for it but i just get so frustrated, especially when the photo album randomly opens while im on the phone, and then when i need to use the keypad I can't get the damn album to close because the screen doesnt recognize my tap, or thinks im tapping somewhere else. I've ran the screen alignment a few times, and tried doing it with my finger and with the stylus. Do i just have a dud?
Josh

Have you tried realigning the screen? Pretty basic stuff.

I have the same exact problem. Especially with the numbers. I switched to the other dialer (no video cal one) and its still the same. I have calibrated tons butits no better.

Yes, as i said, i've ran the screen alignment numerous times, and tried it both with the stylus and with my finger.

yea, i have teh same problem.. its definiately not a realignement problem.
It happens with the htc dialpad, and somtimes the htc skined calculator
i thought maybe it could be touchflo.. i didnt have this problem at all with the 8525

And I thought it just me!
I get this problem too when using the dialler (both HTC and WM6).

Looks like a few of us have this problem. I notice it on the today screen using HTC home, i go to tap the weather icon and end up opening the clock. Try diabling the touch cube (if you have it installed) seemed to improve things for me.

vlad69uk said:
Looks like a few of us have this problem. I notice it on the today screen using HTC home, i go to tap the weather icon and end up opening the clock. Try diabling the touch cube (if you have it installed) seemed to improve things for me.
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I've noticed this. I always align my screen with the stylus to get the best accuracy but when certain app's are loaded that are designed for finger use, they change the touch-screen sensitivity so that when you need to use the stylus again for small items, its all screwed up!
I found if I stick to what the unit is designed for its OK!

Farsquidge said:
I've noticed this. I always align my screen with the stylus to get the best accuracy but when certain app's are loaded that are designed for finger use, they change the touch-screen sensitivity so that when you need to use the stylus again for small items, its all screwed up!
I found if I stick to what the unit is designed for its OK!
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So the Kaiser was not designed to make phone calls? Perhaps you are supposed to only dial people from your contact list (synced from MS Outlook of course) or use MS Voice Command?

jgermuga said:
So the Kaiser was not designed to make phone calls? Perhaps you are supposed to only dial people from your contact list (synced from MS Outlook of course) or use MS Voice Command?
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Oh, here we go...
NO, what I meant is that if you want an iPod type interface then buy one. The 'Kaiser' comes with a stylus that gives you precise touch input.
To use a 'grubby' finger to gain access the touch interface has to be 'DE-Tuned' to accept an approximation input and once an app that does this is installed you will have to accept some changes for precise input apps you already have!
For pity's sake, some people expect things out of this device even a Tablet laptop could not provide!!!

Farsquidge said:
Oh, here we go...
NO, what I meant is that if you want an iPod type interface then buy one. The 'Kaiser' comes with a stylus that gives you precise touch input.
To use a 'grubby' finger to gain access the touch interface has to be 'DE-Tuned' to accept an approximation input and once an app that does this is installed you will have to accept some changes for precise input apps you already have!
For pity's sake, some people expect things out of this device even a Tablet laptop could not provide!!!
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Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I have always found the phone dialer to be a problem and after 4 device iterations and 3 OS iterations, you would think it could be resolved.
Plus, HTC included TouchFlo on this device, which to me is also severely flawed to the point of being worthless. Even so, this sets the expectation that you can use your "grubby" finger when you need to, not only to dial a phone number but to scroll a contact list.
I don't get why you toss out constant excuses for the Kaiser not being designed to do this, that or the other thing. As far as I am concerned, I paid 3 times the cost of a modest dedicated GPS, dedicated PMP and a phone to get it all in one CONVERGED device. If only I wanted a phone, I would have bought a phone, if only I wanted an MPS player I would have bought an MP3 player, etc, etc, but I opted to pay much (much, much) more for the ability to get all these things in ONE device. So why should I not have a right to be disappointed with problems that linger for years and years, or for poor implementation of features that had better support on lesser devices, such as video playback.
Granted, HTC does not out this product as a media player, but given that it is similar in design to previous models, which did at least an adequate job, has left many people who thought they were upgrading feeling disappointed. Plus, it is VERY difficult to try all these features out before making a decision, and when people come to place like this forum to ask questions, they get flamed.
It seems your solution to the disappointment is to buy a fanny pack and load it up with a camera, a game player, an mp3 player, a personal media player, a phone, a GPS... and what the heck, we'll even throw in a Kindle for good measure.
What's up? Do you sell fanny packs?

jgermuga said:
Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I have always found the phone dialer to be a problem and after 4 device iterations and 3 OS iterations, you would think it could be resolved.
Plus, HTC included TouchFlo on this device, which to me is also severely flawed to the point of being worthless. Even so, this sets the expectation that you can use your "grubby" finger when you need to, not only to dial a phone number but to scroll a contact list.
I don't get why you toss out constant excuses for the Kaiser not being designed to do this, that or the other thing. As far as I am concerned, I paid 3 times the cost of a modest dedicated GPS, dedicated PMP and a phone to get it all in one CONVERGED device. If only I wanted a phone, I would have bought a phone, if only I wanted an MPS player I would have bought an MP3 player, etc, etc, but I opted to pay much (much, much) more for the ability to get all these things in ONE device. So why should I not have a right to be disappointed with problems that linger for years and years, or for poor implementation of features that had better support on lesser devices, such as video playback.
Granted, HTC does not out this product as a media player, but given that it is similar in design to previous models, which did at least an adequate job, has left many people who thought they were upgrading feeling disappointed. Plus, it is VERY difficult to try all these features out before making a decision, and when people come to place like this forum to ask questions, they get flamed.
It seems your solution to the disappointment is to buy a fanny pack and load it up with a camera, a game player, an mp3 player, a personal media player, a phone, a GPS... and what the heck, we'll even throw in a Kindle for good measure.
What's up? Do you sell fanny packs?
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My only advice to people who constantly moan about the device like you do is take it back or sell it!!
It obviously is not what you want so why do you keep it??

Sure, that's easy to say. I'll just go and drop another $500+ on a phone and memory card. What the heck. It's only money, right? And while I'm at it, I'll just plop down another $200 for getting out of my AT&T contract. And then keep my fingers crossed I can get a decent price off eBay. And that's even before spending time reflashing the AT&t ROM to stock and getting an unlock code. Cmon, get real.
If the Nokia N95 had a touch screen or the Sony W960i had support for AT&T bands, I would have already dropped this model. I could use a break from WinMo anyway. To bad Symbian isn't as popular on this side of the pond.
Otherwise, I don't see any non-HTC phones other then the E-Ten X800 that I would consider a major upgrade to my 8125. I sat on the sidelines for the Tytn I because I wanted on board GPS. What a poor tradeoff that turned out to be. It is likely I will wind up going with a T-Mobile Shadow keep the phone and and break the contract, which would still be cheaper than what I paid for the Tilt after the AT&T deal. Hopefully I'll be able to come out even after all is said and done. At least it is smaller and cheaper.
I'd wait for the Cruise but I am not too thrilled to pay nearly 3/4 of a grand for something that can't render video.
Yes, I am frustrated. From the AT&T bloatware to the lack of accessories (it didn't even come with a case????) to the video driver problems, the TouchFlo not working, yada yada yada, I've had it with this phone. I actually liked my 8125 better, and as a basis of comparison, I saw far fewer complaints about that model when it was the top dog.
So sad to say, the Kaiser looks great on paper, but it falls short on implementation.

A First in Diamonds Threads-What i do like at my Diamond!

Reading, swimming in the wave of complains (most of them not justified) posted here i felt the urge to write something positive about my\our new Diamond.
Some of the complains are amusing me because are the direct result of a totally unfamiliarity with the WM, a "jumping to conclusions" approach or because very high expectations.
I hate the complains written by ppl that don't owe a Diamond and are feeding us with useless and incorrect information they "heard from a friend". After an ironic answer to one of this kind of posters i even got a PM from a newbie who complained about my luck of patience and overdose of sarcasm.
I do think that in the next 2-3 month we are going to see the prices go down and the quality of the Diamonds go up. We are the pioneers, we have the $ to pay the high prices and the curiosity/balls to buy the first maybe not completely debugged ones that were sold.
Let's not forget also that HTC are constrained by the narrow mind programmers of Microsoft. Now to the subject:
1. I like direct acces from the today screen to the Phone History. It saves a click or two.
2. I like having more than 7 favorites programs at a click\flip of a finger. Now we have the old "7 items only" menu and the programs from Today Screen.\
3. Do i have to tell you how much i like sliding from one application to another in the today screen from the bottom menu bar OR from the top title bar OR from the middle of the screen?
4. I like having larger Storage Memory and Larger Program Memory than my old, faithful Trinity. I like even more the 4 G Internal Memory replacing the 2 G SD. Will i ever fill them up?!
5. I like pressing in the upper task bar to get a full screen with big buttons to check my memory, 3G state, Battery and so on..."System Status"
6. I like the Task Button that really can be finger touched because the screen is no more recessed.
7. I like flipping my favorites' pics. Again we have the option for more favorites contacts. We have 9 or more on speed dial and as many as we like on the contact's pics on the today screen.
8. I like the quality of sound (here a few ppl are going: woooooooo) but i like it.
9. I like using my BT headphones with the impeccable A2DP. No tweaks needed.
10. I like the option to retract the phone dial pad to see more contacts when i am using the smart dialing.
11. I like the 3.2 mp camera with auto focus and the quality of the pics/flics i get.
12. I like the VGA screen and the clarity and size of what is written on the screen.
13. I like the graphics.
14. I like (no, i have to correct myself) I LOVE the way it fits to my shirt pocket.
I am looking forward to:
- The first xda-dev made ROM.
- The extended battery Pack.
- OS Android or WM 7.
In conclusion: give it a chance, you'll might like it

What more I can say ... totally agree *thumbs up*
if you like it buy it, if you don`t like sell it and go elsewhere, if you don`t have it shut up

Adding to that list....
I have to admit that i am impressed with mine as well...
I have "tweaked" the touchflo a bit to mke it more responsive, and i love the fact that i can "scroll" through recieved texts and emails...
I am actually having fun with the diamond, especially as i made the transition directly from a Universal. its amusing to type with t9, i rarely have to grab the stylus. I have to agree that the headset for calls is stunning, and music is clear, both on BT headset and wired.
I still need to work out how to use the damn headset buttons though!

I like the fact that my Wizard's miniUSB charger fits this extUSB of the Diamond as well! Same goes for my car charger! It even works with standard USB -> miniUSB cables to connect to the computer.
Now only for an audio link in the car... maybe I could setup a nice bluetooth thingy with my car radio

Well, I've been using WM devices for quite a while now, and i'll state the point that makes the Diamond stand out based on my experience with WM devices:
1) VGA screen - I can't even see a darn pixel on screen. It's so friggin sharp (my first VGA device )
2) The G-sensor is sweet. The game teeter gives a good user experience. I wish there are more apps for the sensor
3) SIZE! I thought the original Touch was small.. and now this!!
4) I'm a sucker for graphic animation (still not going with iPxxne) So I like TouchFlo3D. Got everything there I need
Well.. thats pretty much makes the device stand out. ANd yea.. the device isnt half as bad as what others complained abt. It's not a decent device.. its an awesome one!

I almost like eveything about the diamond,except the memory issues,its a real RAM hog. especially with touchflo3d turned on because its leaks alot of memory.also program memory is lower that the kaiser,only 86mb total and almost 50mb in use already! same for RAM; total 113mb but already 60mb in use! thats not funny. hope the touch pro doesnt have these problems.
but the rest i love about the phone,the size of it, the graphics of the vga screen, the g-sensor apps, the gps thats super quick, touchflo3d for its user friendly simplicity and stunning graphics especially the weather i like very much, i like opera cuz its better than IE.maybe more to come as i use it more
overall: great phone,but needs better ROM thats more memory-efficiant, but a great one add to the collection

KukurikU said:
Reading, swimming in the wave of complains (most of them not justified) posted here i felt the urge to write something positive about my\our new Diamond.
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Well said my friend. By the way, I used to live in Rehovot

Hello,
I love mine very much too...My main issue the the impossibility to install IGO 8 on this device...May be one day,
Philippe

I think you forgot about the GPS. Its simply amazing. Locks within 10 seconds cold or otherwise. When compared to my clunky TYTN II of which I never used the keyboard the GPS is fantastic. On my old TYTN II it could take about 2-3 minutes to get a lock. Of course there are still some application bugs for the IGO users but my Garmin Mobile XT flies.

Opps time to change my signature. Still says TYTN II

VGA, GPS, G-Sensor, Complete Flush screen, 3.2 MP, Small Size, NO External Keyboard....Opera 9.5 as default browser, Love my Diamond.

Just one word: Amazing!

j0bro said:
I like the fact that my Wizard's miniUSB charger fits this extUSB of the Diamond as well! Same goes for my car charger! It even works with standard USB -> miniUSB cables to connect to the computer.
Now only for an audio link in the car... maybe I could setup a nice bluetooth thingy with my car radio
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how are you doing this? i plugged in my diamond with the standard usb cable, and it is charging. but my computer does not recognize it as a phone. and i cannot activesync.
it might be the cable......

pauljohn54 said:
I think you forgot about the GPS. Its simply amazing. Locks within 10 seconds cold or otherwise. When compared to my clunky TYTN II of which I never used the keyboard the GPS is fantastic. On my old TYTN II it could take about 2-3 minutes to get a lock. Of course there are still some application bugs for the IGO users but my Garmin Mobile XT flies.
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with tomtom v6 it takes a couple of minutes. 2 or 3!!
so i do not like tomtom, but i love the diamond.!!!
i also like the free screen protector

I just got it today. What I like most is the size and the screen.
Compared to my "old" Touch Cruise, where I actually never liked the design, I have the feeling that it's only have the size and weight. No comparison to the sceen too. BtW Diamond is 16,7 Mio colors, isnt' it ?
This device could become the best smartphone I ever owned. Let the testing begin.

I owned a wizard, touch, touch xl, touch dual, but none of these pleased me more than the diamond!
my diamond is the best device ever made! let me point out why:
1. formfactor is outstanding, its small, strong, beautiful.
2. the design is outstanding!
3. the performance of the touchflo3d is very good, the stories about lag are just bullocks. the only lag I felt was during a2dp, wifi, teeter, and many apps opened.
4. speaking of a2dp, the bluetooth radio is the best there ever was on a device, 15 meters from diamond and still listening music
5. opera browser rules
6. teeter is a killer game.
7. g sensor rocks and works great
8. gps has a quick fix
9. camera makes beautiful pics(when a lot of licht is around)
10. love the way scrolling through my music albums with album art(love the non static feeling to it)
11. same with pics and videos
12. youtube player works very well with 3g and wifi(sometimes with gprs)
13. typed this text with opera and xt9 on my diamond so the keyboard works well.
14. my first vga screen an I must say, qvga sucks!
15. the build in light sensor is amazing
this device blows every other phone to pieces, I believe htc finally got it!
what I dislike:
- sometimes the dpad doesn't do what I like, but I think I can train myself with that.
- windows mobile sometimes gives a popup:
xxx.exe is not responding. but the device keeps working...
gr bram

The fact that its not a brick or door stop. and its so sexy looking

just because is so typical and ...funny. read it till the end. why FM radio sucks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401119

Excellent thread!!
Thanks all for sharing your positive feedback about your 'Diamonds'.
After having read this thread I've decided to return to HTC!! Now that is saying something.lol.
I was uhming and arrhing about the resticted 4GB storage as opposed to the current 12GB and soon to be 32GB cards, but if I am to be honest, yeah...I can use all that space up, but would never really need more than 3GB at any given time. The upcoming Pro version of the Diamond seems to have it all for me, but I just never use the tiny slide-out keyboard (just a novelty on such a small device IMHO), so Diamond...here I come.
All said and done though, you will unlikely ever get the solid type of after sales support that one gets from this forum.
XDA-developers rule!!
P.S. I've read that Open GLES works great with Call of Duty II...don't need my Ultimate i-mate with that Geforce chip anymore .
Looks like I'll be sticking to the Diamond until the new Nvidia APX 2500 enabled devices make it into HTC devices.
Thanks again for this thread and your comments....it has helped me greatly.

Htc Lag Diamond :-(

It's incredible to notice that a 500 Euro phone it's sold with:
-Lag in the TF3D
-Lag in the music player
-Lag in the GPS
-Lag in phone calls
It's incredible that HTC has not fixed yet these problems!!!After months!!!
I am very disappointed and feel very angry,but it looks that all I can do is sell it.
It's not acceptable that there is nothing working perfectly with the phone:UI?no,it's slow,GPS?No it's laggy,phone?No,has problems,mp3 player?No,lags randomly.

htcenrico said:
It's incredible to notice that a 500 Euro phone it's sold with:
-Lag in the TF3D
-Lag in the music player
-Lag in the GPS
-Lag in phone calls
It's incredible that HTC has not fixed yet these problems!!!After months!!!
I am very disappointed and feel very angry,but it looks that all I can do is sell it.
It's not acceptable that there is nothing working perfectly with the phone:UI?no,it's slow,GPS?No it's laggy,phone?No,has problems,mp3 player?No,lags randomly.
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have you updated the rom yet??????????????

So, read up and fix it. Update your ROM from the HTC E-club, or use a cooked ROM.
A PPC is not just a mobile phone.

Its working perfectly at collecting my greasy fingerprints. I've never seen any phone do it with such speed and effiency.
So at least something is working perfectly.

Some problems are fixed, but it is true that there are still other bugs that has neither a phone 20€ and that could be solved very easily (As to block the screen when we have a call...)

htcenrico said:
It's incredible to notice that a 500 Euro phone it's sold with:
-Lag in the TF3D
-Lag in the music player
-Lag in the GPS
-Lag in phone calls
It's incredible that HTC has not fixed yet these problems!!!After months!!!
I am very disappointed and feel very angry,but it looks that all I can do is sell it.
It's not acceptable that there is nothing working perfectly with the phone:UI?no,it's slow,GPS?No it's laggy,phone?No,has problems,mp3 player?No,lags randomly.
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It is annoying how some people join this forum just to rant.
If you have problems with TF3D, make sure you use the latest ROM 1.93 or a cooked ROM. Increase the screen sensitivity (registry hack). Or turn off TF3D like I have done, and install SPB Mobile Shell. I use Mobile Shell not because TF3D lags, but because I don't find it very practical.
The Touch Diamond is a PDA, not just a phone. If you don't like the inbuilt music player, install another one.
I dont experience any lag with my GPS using TomTom or Google Maps.
Another tip is to adjust the settings in Task Manager so that applications close when you press 'X' rather than the default minimise. Any PPC can lag if it runs out of RAM.

Riker88 said:
It is annoying how some people join this forum just to rant.
If you have problems with TF3D, make sure you use the latest ROM 1.93 or a cooked ROM. Increase the screen sensitivity (registry hack). Or turn off TF3D like I have done, and install SPB Mobile Shell. I use Mobile Shell not because TF3D lags, but because I don't find it very practical.
The Touch Diamond is a PDA, not just a phone. If you don't like the inbuilt music player, install another one.
I dont experience any lag with my GPS using TomTom or Google Maps.
Another tip is to adjust the settings in Task Manager so that applications close when you press 'X' rather than the default minimise. Any PPC can lag if it runs out of RAM.
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Hei!I didn't offend anybody so don't you please!
Anyway, I expect the solution from HTC because they are responsible of the money I spent.
The Touch Diamond is a PDA,thanks for your explanation.So GPS and music are function of a PDA,and they simply don't work perfectly.Before posting please read the threads about GPS lag and music lag it is not something related to the software we install is so much more complicated.
If someone is not affected by this bugs,this doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

htcenrico said:
It's incredible to notice that a 500 Euro phone it's sold with:
-Lag in the TF3D
-Lag in the music player
-Lag in the GPS
-Lag in phone calls
It's incredible that HTC has not fixed yet these problems!!!After months!!!
I am very disappointed and feel very angry,but it looks that all I can do is sell it.
It's not acceptable that there is nothing working perfectly with the phone:UI?no,it's slow,GPS?No it's laggy,phone?No,has problems,mp3 player?No,lags randomly.
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thank you for letting us know. it was very important.
what's the drama? go sell it or start reading, learning and applying. make it better! whining is not going to help you!

my phone is running great
i have no problems now with this phone
its a good phone.....you just need to make it beter...its not hard to do
good afternoon KukurikU

Sell it and buy an iPhone

liamhere said:
i have no problems now with this phone
its a good phone.....you just need to make it beter...its not hard to do
good afternoon KukurikU
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So when you buy a car,you repair it by yourself...even if it's in guarantee period.
Risking to make the whole thing worse.
I respect your point of view.
But mine it's a question of principle,and responsability.
Not everybody has the time to (try to) repair the job that is supposed to be I don't say perfect but almost perfect.
I am not talking of minor bugs,but of the core of the PDA,the GPS!The player!The TF3D!What else i am buying it for?If it was only a phone I would buy a 30 Euro one.

htcenrico said:
So when you buy a car,you repair it by yourself...even if it's in guarantee period.
Risking to make the whole thing worse.
I respect your point of view.
But mine it's a question of principle,and responsability.
Not everybody has the time to (try to) repair the job that is supposed to be I don't say perfect but almost perfect.
I am not talking of minor bugs,but of the core of the PDA,the GPS!The player!The TF3D!What else i am buying it for?If it was only a phone I would buy a 30 Euro one.
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Mybe HTC are not for you.
all HTC telephone needing to be "Tuned" and "tweaked" to make it work better and to unlock some "hiddens" features.ALL HTCs.
I already know that for all new htc products i could buy i must tweak and optimize to use it well.
If you post here maybe you know what i say.
1)With latest ROMS TF3D's lag its absent (or at least almost gone.surely much much faster than a nokia n73)
2)My GPS Dont Lag so i dont know.
3)my mp3 plays perfectly so i cant comprehned what are you saying.
Maybe its your fault.
Sell It and buy a 30 euro phone or an Iphone. Or Maybe an Samsung OMNIA.

Funny , why are you here if you dont want to mod your phone. Its a buyers world dude just send it back and get a box standard phone .
I would not suggest the iphone for you either as its riddled with bugs at the moment

After updated and tweaking my TD, I love it, best phone I've had. Granted it could do with a few things fixing on it but it is awesome. I don't see it as just a phone anymore, it's just so much more

I agree that HTC phones are toys need to be tuned but other phones arent perfect and you havent such a support as here in XDA-dev...
but I agree with you in one think phone for 500$ should play MP3s perfectly but many users already announced annoying lag or skip during playback and nobody figured it out yet...

Lag in TF3D? The Two ROM updates didn't fix it for you like it did for everyone else then?
Lag in MP3? check your bit rates. HTC devices have never really liked VBR files or bit rates over 128kbps. try a lower bit rate and see if this fixes it.
Lag in GPS? so far i can only find a very few people who have this issue compared to the thousands that have been sold, which leads me to believe that it is a software issue. ROM's, tweaks applied etc. can't say i have had this on either the diamond or the Touch Pro. this one needs more looking into, which is exactly what the guys here are trying to do, cos HTC can't re-create it yet.
Oh, and there's a name for people that turn up just to complain.....but i won't repeat it here in polite society.

what are you talking about??? VBR maybe but normal MP3 with constant bitrate less then 128kbps??? are you crazy did you hear something less then 128kbps bull..it...it has 528MHz processor so dont try to excuse HTC ignorants its not about bitrate or power of unit...like I wrote elsewhere on Kaiser with 400MHz processor everything was just fine so try another excuse or lie...
BTW doesnt mather VBR or constant bitrate

My Artemis, Athena, and Hermes didn't like VBR files. Not unless i installed coreplayer/TCPMP. So no I'm not crazy, a liar or HTC apologist. I'm a guy who's owned loads of these things and am trying to help.
96kbps is plenty good enough for listening to on the commute to work in the morning. lets face it, it's the same quality as on most FM radio stations and people have been listening to those for years! That's why i suggested it. it's not ideal, but maybe it will help until someone can fix the problem properly.
oh, and there's a name for people like you too......

I still get lag on MP3s even at 96kbps.
I agree that most other issues are now fixed (mainly by forum members) but the sound problem is still there (I have tried numerous ROMs up to SwiftBlades #6).
I have also owned HTC devices for along time, my previous Orbit & Orbit 2 (Touch Cruise) + Prophet all played high bitrate VBR files with no problem using numerous players. WM is generally very good at this sort of thing.
I've only ever had this problem with the Diamond, which otherwise I continue to like.
As stated in previous posts, I'm not in either the "blind adoration" or the "ranting hate" camps, but I do sympathise with those people who, like me, use it as their primary MP3 player.
If only HTC would at least tell us that they acknowledge the problem and are working on it...

but 96kbps isnt enough quality for me my diamond and in-ear headphones with great sound...as well as FM radio but which I can excuse because of many conditions like enviroment and quality of signal...
I agree that VBR can be problem also for some standalone MP3 players...
so sorry for my boom of words but it looks like youre holding brief for HTC because diamond costs so much and you re trying to be satisfied... but you have to agree with me that this MP3 playing situation is inexcusable for 500$ multimedia device...maybe its time to do something with it because new ROM is so far away I think...

Awesome speaker enhancement for Kaisers!

Hi folks, I got myself a Kaiser (Vodafone branded but unlocked) about 2 weeks ago, and have been busily reading these forums so as to NOT appear a total n00b
So far I have applied the WM6.1 update, and found the GPS "problem" (which isnt too bad as outside I get a GPS lock in 30 secs to 1 minute anyway) and am looking forwards to experimenting with some of the excellent ROMS out there when I get some free time.
I thought I'd like to share with you good people a nifty speaker enhancement I found.
When working (I am a Barista for a catering company who travels to shows etc) I like to have music playing, and MS- Voice Command gets me lots of "ooohs" from fellow workers when I tell my phone to play Pink Floyd - and it does!
The built-in external speaker is a LOT clearer and louder than my previous XDAIIi device, and so I turn the phone upside-down to enhance the audio level & quality, but it's still a bit 'tinny' and quiet, no real bass to it.
I work as a Barista, and of course I have an endless supply of 12 oz paper cups to play with and that got me to thinking.....
Take a 12oz paper cup, upright...
Start kaiser playing your favourite kind of music...
place Kaiser on TOP of cup, the right way up, so external speaker is facing down into cup, balance it on the top
Admire how you now have REAL bass sound and twice the volume!
the difference is like night & day
I can only assume the paper cup is acting as a kind of speaker enclosure for the external speaker, it sounds so much better it's fantastic!
No doubt others may want to experiment further (post any good results for us to share!), who knows it may be possible to accousically design a 'proper' reflector for it for really great sound?
just my $0.02
Joe Pinball
new (to me!) Kaiser owner, and LOVING how he gets an "oooh" from iphone users when he tilts & slides...

might try this sometimes.... thanks for the tip

Sounds like you might need to put one of those theft programs on your phone incase someone takes off with it.

Worked pretty good until someone bumped the table and my Tilt fell into the beer in the cup. Guess it would have been better to use an empty cup.

jdwilson said:
Worked pretty good until someone bumped the table and my Tilt fell into the beer in the cup.
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Shame... What a waste of beer.

Reverting is easy if you want excellent GPS back again
Joe Pinball said:
Hi folks, I got myself a Kaiser (Vodafone branded but unlocked) about 2 weeks ago, and have been busily reading these forums so as to NOT appear a total n00b
So far I have applied the WM6.1 update, and found the GPS "problem" (which isnt too bad as outside I get a GPS lock in 30 secs to 1 minute anyway)
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If only everyone else new here did the same and researched things from the forums. This is the second time I've seen the idea of using a cup to modify the sound so there must be something in it. Having upgraded to WM 6.1, I found the broken/poorly performing GPS too and had the phone reverted to WM 6.0 (once by HTC under warranty and once myself using the info here), I can tell you it's pretty straightforward to revert back again if 15 second stationary satellite locks (and quick ones when on the move) are important to you. Personally I found the general unreliability of the HTC WM 6.1 ROMs, including powersaving related issues, another reason to revert. WM 6.0 may be a little slower but it is very reliable.

Flying Kiwi said:
Personally I found the general unreliability of the HTC WM 6.1 ROMs, including powersaving related issues, another reason to revert. WM 6.0 may be a little slower but it is very reliable.
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EDIT: I just reverted back to 6.0 as well (with the bloatware removed) and, so far, my phone is behaving the way it SHOULD. I've lost the ability to map my PTT button to use Voice Command, so I had to map the front OK button, as the side OK button still works, and I even have Touch Flo loaded up and working fine, too. It is a bit sluggish still, but at least I got 2 of the most annoying things ironed out... I think.

I have had an updated rom ever since I got the phone. I have no complaints. I even used tom tom to take me from Texas the Colorado. (thats like you guys going from france to england or maybe spain)

ChumleyEX said:
I have had an updated rom ever since I got the phone. I have no complaints. I even used tom tom to take me from Texas the Colorado. (thats like you guys going from france to england or maybe spain)
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Is that based on your current ROM, or the AT&T stock 6.1 ROM? I'd love to upgrade to 6.5 or at least 6.1, but my 2-PC sync and backlight problems were huge annoyances to me. I just spent over 2 hours removing all of the duplicate appointments/contacts that the sync problem created.

I used duttys 6.1 rom with tom tom and use 6.5 with google maps all the time.

New diamond user-show me goodies :)

hi everyone you might know me from HD2 scenes, well i got another toy to play with it's brand new HTC diamond(!!!!!) from local store which hadn't sold everything out from 2008 lol i needed backup phone, so i bought it for 50 euros(lol) and ive got 2 years of warranty xD
kinda cool to see how little htc actually envolved during 2 years(diamond-->leo).. apart from screen size and technology..well not actually that much difference. i find diamond build with alot more passion like...-glowing wall adapter, phone when charging, ringing, sms..(nice effect), button backlight turns on on light touch, cool back cover, stylus gets sucked in...
well after a day i'm all into games like COD2, THPS2(i had to use cotulla's wvgafix before, and no hw arrow pad)...vga on such screen is mind blowing
i flashed energyrom yesterday, didn't impress me really :/ stock was much faster.
to make long story short, what else can i try on this htc masterpiece?
thank you

I have a HD2 and use Diamond as work phone, I installed Advanced config v3.3 which has lots of tweaks etc, and Touchflo 3d config which has a couple of tweaks as well as an easy way to install themes, Other than that I have just searched alot and found various icon sets and task bars, Clean Ram is another great app for freeing up memory seeing as the diamond has only 192mb lol, Net CF 3.5 is a good app that allows installation of most apps,Getting rid of the curtains on Home screen is cool as well as a Black clock and doing away with the touchflo 3d Blocks wallpaper, As I said Its out there if you look hard enough, Have fun.......

Look up DiamondTF3D Config. Its a very nice application wich allows you to modify out TouchFlo3D in any was possibile. For starters , i like the "flip to silent" option. If your phone rings while the display is pointed upwards , and want to rapidly silence the ringtone , flip the phone and it will silent itself up. It`s mindblowing , believe me.
Try getting a nice GPS for it , like IGO8 or Garmin , and hook it up on your car. Personally i preferr IGO8 because it is more accurate. More than that , your headset comes with QuickGPS application that requires a weekly update (and notifies you when needed) to keep the maps up-to-date. It also has Pedestrian Option , and i had alot of fun with it with a friend when testing it. We started the software and began running like idiots around the block to see just how accurate it really is. You`d be amazed , it is capable of foreseeing your actions and ploting a trajectory , even showing you your speed as you are walking/running. Heh!
The factory music player is exceptional. Doesn`t drain alot of your PSU energy (i have a 1000mAh PSU wich last long enough to get me through the day , despite Diamonds batery life issues)...The Audio Booster is very handy togheter with the good ol` HTC headphones (probablly the only pair of headphones that fit in my gigantic ears and won`t fall out!)
It`s 4 GB internal storage. I`m happy with it , cannot manage to fill it up!
As you said , the stylus gets sucked wich is very handy in avoiding its loss! Moreso, the stylus sticks to the metal strip surrounding the body of the phone! I use this thing when browsing the internet and get caught up with something else , finding myself sticking it on the outside rather than shoving it in the phone like a bloddy rapist ^^
The Windows Mobile 6.1 has TouchFlo3D , the Windows Mobile 6.5 has Sense 2.1/2.5;
Though different in functionality , the both work on the same principle (i personally preferr 6.5 because it`s more finger friendly than 6.1 , though i would not recommend flashing it without exceptional skills in headset personalisation.I`ve heard people with Diamonds that flashed it cause the headset to brick! Service centers request obscene fees if you want to repair it , or , to make it worst , they refuse to do it because you would , most likely , download a 6.5 ROM from this forum , wich is un-official )
It took me 2 weeks to learn all the mind-jizzing things this little headset can do!
And just recently descovered the music player progress bar scrolling by doing a circular motion on the outer bounds of the Enter Button! (yeah , impressive how some find this thing magical!)
Good luck with your exploration! I won`t give it for any other headset (maybe for a better HTC version)