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Why does GPRS want to connect?

Hello,
on my Diamond, I have e-mail receiving set to "manually" and both weather downloading options unchecked. However, very often, the phone tries to connect to GPRS without asking me for permission. Few days ago, I was playing with my phone, what caused turning off NoData (I dunno why - I have neither turned the Internet profile to "enable" in its settings nor uninstalled NoData). A few moments later, I was VERY suprised to see that.. phone was connected to the GPRS for over 40 minutes! I thought that it'd make my bill like $50 higher. However, it raised my bill for only ~$0,5. I have no idea neither why did it connect nor what did it wanted to do with GPRS connection. Do you have such problems either? What's the matter? How can I fix this so my phone won't want to connect without my demand? Thanks in advance.

NoData should be enough, but I don't know why it reset to enabled if you didn't do this yourself? That said, all it does is toggle some registry settings so perhaps one of the other 'tweak' apps (have you got any installed?) reset the settings...?
Mathew

Yeah, I think that other tweaking apps could make it - that was my first thought. I have Diamond Tweak and Advanced Config installed and I was playing with them, so they could change the settings. My problem though is not to make Diamond unable to connect GPRS - because NoData does everything I want in that matter. I want to know why Diamond wants to connect, while forecast and e-mails checking are off. It'd be great to know that, because maybe then it'd be possible to be sure that (even without NoData) Diamond wouldn't connect to the Internet when we don't want it to do it.

With gprs it's all about the traffic.. the more you download, the more you pay.. I deleted the settings, so it can't connect, even when it wants to.. Only use wifi anyway..
U can enable NoData, but I think it's still possible to manually turn on the connection. NoData won't work then, unless you re-enable and softreset..

djind - oh man, I know how does GPRS work and what do I pay for..
I'll repeat once again, cause I think not everyone got this right. I want to know, WHY does Diamond want to connect to GPRS if it DOESN'T want to download forecast or e-mails. I'd love to have no situations with Diamond trying to connect - without NoData, without deleting settings. Just NO CONNECTING without my CLEAR DEMAND.
Then, please tell me what can make my Diamond want to connect.

You said u were playing around, so opening a page or checking and immediately unchecking weather download or any program using gprs would trigger the connection.. or mayme by accident pressed something..
It's done like that to increase your phone company's income
How about disabling the gprs auto-attachment option found in diamindtweak (or was it advanced config)

Just delete the setting if nothing work, and use wifi...
I actually have unlimited 3G service, so i don't really care if it stayed connected or not (and battery is not really a issue for me..)

djind said:
How about disabling the gprs auto-attachment option found in diamindtweak (or was it advanced config)
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That's not going to help in this instance. Disabling auto-attachment merely stops the phone resgistering itself as a GPRS-enabled device with the network until it actually requires a data connection to be established. Hence, as soon as the OP's 'rogue app' requests a connection it will get one.
Tigrowski, sorry for the confusion - I was specifically answering your question of how to stop the phone connecting without your demand. I am not aware of an app that could identify this rogue app, but perhaps if you find a packet sniffer that'd give you some clues (i.e. from where the traffic is going, ports etc and, if using cleartext ASCII the actual data being sent).
All said and done though, I think you'd be better of just relying on NoData to put the barrier up as even when you've identified the rogue app you might not be able to make it behave. Besides which there'll likely be another one round the corner wanting to connect when it feels like it! (that was one of the reasons behind why NoData was developed, particularly for roaming users given the significant financial impact of out-of-control network-enabled apps)
Mathew
P.S. It's not QuickGPS periodically downloading almanac data is it? (check the setting as this can be controlled, although it should only be doing so weekly anyway)

detecting programs initiating data connection

Hi,
I'm looking for a soft that would detect and identify which programs (softwares or other) initiate data connections on my kaiser.
I disabled all data-retrieving options on the different softs I have (weather,time,...), but it still connects without my wanting !
Anyone knows something that would do that ?
Thanks.

Good question and I too would be interested in the answer. Mine started doing this a few days ago and has since stopped again!

Activesync and MMS messaging
Both of these programs will switch on your data connection. I changed my mms settings to reject and changed my data connection to my work network to keep it from using data. That worked for me until I added unlimited data to my plan.

Spb Wireless Monitor does a great job at this. It isn't free, but I like it. I have it set as a Today Screen plugin to only show my MediaNet connection, but it can also show USB and wifi data usage. It will give you reports on what's using data, how much it's used, and when it was used. You can also set it to alert you before you go over your limit. It's at http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/?en

Indeed, SPB wireless monitor is great.
I was looking exactly for the same sort of solution, since after reinstalling some apps I was having too large GPRS data loads.

keep track of data usage?

hi:
how can i keep track of data transfer when i tether to laptop?
i have unlimited medianet but i dont want to use too much per month.
ideally, i would use some app that could track in real-time.
tahnx

If AT&T is your carrier, you can check this in your online account here
https://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/welcome/

thats nice, im asking for a real time tracker if there is one

SPB Wireless monitor. Tracks live speeds of data usage over all connections, including USB and Wifi. It has a today screen plug which I place on my secondtoday under Weatherpanel and serves me great.
It is what I use and love it. You can either buy it or continously keep flashing new roms and using the full fleged trial.

I agree with Scrtcwlvl. I've been using SPB Wireless Monitor for a couple months and it's ideal for what you want. You can even set it to alert you when you exceed a set usage so you don't go over your plan.

There's a problem with Wireless monitor though, at least on my Kaiser, as it won't count what goes through Internet Sharing in the 3G connection's total, which makes it a pain and useless to actually count total data usage. On the older SPB GPRS monitor it was working perfectly.
And no, looking at the traffic on USB is not an option, as there's a lot of other things like sync that would then be added to it and false the results.
So, I'm using NetMeter on the laptop instead. I tell it to monitor the Windows mobile network device only, and reset the counter on each session.

i appreciate all the replies ..i will look for and try both, thanx again

amkaos said:
i appreciate all the replies ..i will look for and try both, thanx again
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its spb wireless monitor 3
have used for a while now,works perfect on kaiser and laptop,inc 3g over usb.
good luck

Charges on ACTIVE SYNC?

Currently im using Dutty roms on my touch diamond. My phone bill keep coming in large amount have turn of my 3G to GSM disable all gprs.
What i can think of is this 2 prog.
Garmin GPS )unlikely(
Active Sync ??
Can someone please enlighten me man.

anyone help?

why no one answerrrrrrr.

Active Sync itself will not incur you any charges. You must have some sort of data connection via GPRS active. A weather program perhaps. Check your bill for when and how long the data call is for to give you a better idea.

broadband on mobile data usage 380 every month 200 300.
i dunno whats that and i did not use.

You should install spb wireless monitor, trial is enough (14 dyas of unlimited functionality). It has ability to show what program is using the Internet.

Disabling Data?

Hi
i just bought the diamond 2 and i was wondering can you disable incoming data, as i dont want to get a data plan from my service provider, and just use wifi......is there a way i can do it or do i have just have to call my service provider to disable it?
Thanks

extracrunchie said:
Hi
i just bought the diamond 2 and i was wondering can you disable incoming data, as i dont want to get a data plan from my service provider, and just use wifi......is there a way i can do it or do i have just have to call my service provider to disable it?
Thanks
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Goto Settings > Communication and turn off Data Connection.

Also, NoData.
Does what it says on the tin.

Why use NoData when one can simply turn off Data Connection from the Settings? Is there any other benefit?

jcan said:
Why use NoData when one can simply turn off Data Connection from the Settings? Is there any other benefit?
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Its my understanding the turning off the Data Connection from the Settings only turns it off once, it can reconnect itself if some program (email, internet) demands it, NoData disables the connection and it can only be re-enabled by changing it in NoData.
I think I'm correct ?

I dunno about NoData since I personally want to have Data, but I can confirm that disabling the data through the settings doesn't work as you would expect. It's true, the data will be reenabled if the email or web client request it.

You can also just delete the data connection. I just went to connections and removed the settings for at&t media net and now I no longer connect to edge.

Bump
Is there a definitive answer to this question? Specifically, I want MMS enabled, GPRS / 3G / HSPDA disabled (So it won't enable if I load Opera etc without having wireless connectivity).
Actually, I'd prefer to be given the option each time a new data connection is to be established, but I'd settle for no mobile data and remove the option when I wanted to use it.
No included data means that *any* accidental mobile access is expensive!