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Hey all,
I've managed to get a far better response on my keyboard by making a simple change. I find it surprising that the keyboard issue only affects Pocket Outlook, I've never had a problem elsewhere.
Anyway, the fix is to change the keyboard repeat settings. In Settings/System/Keyboard, click "Repeats Setting" and increase the "Delay before first repeat". Now this is where it gets wierd...Outlook actually ignores this setting. It's labeled as "up/down key repeat setting" and it does actually control the up/down action on the Today screen in the same way as the same control on a regular computer. But it doesn't work on the hardware keyboard on the phone, and I expect that this incompatibility leads to the problem. It reminds me a lot of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch#Contact_bounce in electronics, basically you aren't getting a clean "key down" then "key up" event from each keypress.
Hope this helps some of you!
The problem in Messaging is that every time you type a letter into the message field the horizontal scrollbar appears and disappears. This happens every keypress. Since keypress = keyDown + keyUp, and the scrollbar appears during keyDown, the OS sometimes (quite often when you type fast) misess the keyUp event, repeating and repeating and repeating the processing of keyDown event.
The kb lag is present in ALL apps (try typing FAST in Notes), but most of the apps do not do anything specific between keyDown and keyUp, thus the lag is not as easy to 'notice'.
Yeah, I still get the scrollbar problem, however before making this change Messaging was completely unusable for me. I had to wait 1sec between key presses otherwise I just get gobbledygook on the screen. It was very frustrating and I assumed that's what people refered to by "keyboard lag". The scrollbar thing is a different problem altogether and just a minor annoyance for me now, a purely visual one.
At the moment I can type "the quick brown fox..." in both Messaging and Notes at full speed with no errors. Yesterday I could not do that in Messaging at all.
Yup... The MOST annoying thing about the kblag is the backspace-key auto-repeat :|
I just slided the setting to 7 and it's great now. Thanks fraser.
Hi,
first...excuse me for my very bad english!!!
I have the following problem: after installed some programs the display remain always powered on also after many minutes.
I think that some parameter in the registru have been chanched.
Someone know how can I resolve the problem?
Thanks!
Doc
After watching something in TCMP player I have that issue sometimes. The screen just wont go back to sleep. I fix it by going into the start menu > settings > power options, usually just going in there and back to the home screen will reset it for me. However when I first installed it I had the time out options set pretty high and it did not always power off after installing stuff. I lowerd those and have not had a problem since.
Could be a different problem though, what program did you install? What changes to the phone have you made?
this is a knows bug in the s710 and s730. programs like tomtom and TCMP player change the Display key to a high value and reset it to the previous. Th eproblem is the key doen't exist on there phones.
search for the backlight-bug in the s710 forum.
start menu > settings > power options > ok, then you have reset all parameters
Regards
If the light goes off, but the display stays on, you must lock your keyboard, display goes out after some time that way(like you've set in the "settings" menu).
look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303778
To solve the problem get a registry editor and do the following:
HKCU / Control Panel / Power => values => LockLevel then you open the values and set "Display" to 30 (30 equals 30 seconds).
domenicostorino:
Thanks. I hope this finally helps.
Unfortunately the display's again on. "Display timeout on battery" and "Display time out on AC" are again (automaticaly) set to 30 seconds and the display doesn't go off.
Thats really weird, without changing anything on mine once I exit the Core or TCPMP player I just load the power options and click done, just going in the menu resets my phone to normal power off functions.
I wonder if in the regestry its not actually locking in the change like the call beep...
Hi, the Diamond returns itself to the Today Screen (with the huge clock) every time the device locks itself. I did the registry hack "AutoDeviceLockEnable" to lock itself after it goes to standby (40 sec.). This also happens when LONG pressing the right phone button.
I like to stay in my apps after switching the device off.
I have NO PASSWORD policy on the device (I know there are other articles which claim password policy is the reason)
Is this Windows 6.0/6.1 generic or a "special feature" in co with the TouchFlo interface?
Maybe someone knows a reg-key to turn that off.
Would be a great help!
Yours B.
Untick the today timeout in settings > today.
??? This setting is to return to today screen after 4 hours of usage, that doesn't help!
pushing it up, can't believe no one has an idea!?
Annoying for me too. The other day I was editing some settings, left the phone for 30s so it locked and went to the today screen which messed my TFL3D for a little while.
Anybody have a solution please?
Has this been solved yet.
As I want to put device on lock with the application in use screen still displayed
still nothing?
This is standard WM behaviour, it returns to the Today screen upon locking. In my opinion, your options are (1) use a different lock or (2) use a task manager to easily switch back to the required program.
I don't use TF3D so it's easy for me to select the required program using a simple task manager at the top of the today screen. I use DevState 1.5, configured to show just a row of big task icons. This works really well in combination with SPB Pocket Plus, like so:
THUDUK said:
Has this been solved yet.
As I want to put device on lock with the application in use screen still displayed
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You can try TouchLockPro
This is special made for locking/unlocking with an running application active.
I really enjoy this forum since it helps me a lot to increase the productivity with my HTC Touch Pro. I found many useful applications. Unfortunately, after installing a large number of them, I run into the infamous 32 processes limit of Windows Mobile. So I decided to write my own app that combines all the features that I find useful. It is implemented as a Pocket PC service, so it does not require an own process.
Here are the features:
- Better vibration for incoming calls. I found the built-in vibration function very annoying as it vibrates permanently during an incoming call. This extensions vibrates in pulses of 300 ms with a pause of one second when a call is incoming
- SIP changer depending on stylus state. If stylus is out, another soft input panel is selected as if stylus is in. Can be changed via the registry keys StylusInSIP and StylusOutSIP.
- Stroke Launcher. If the finger is stroked from one button to another, an application is launched.Four directions are possible: From home button to accept phone call button and vice versa as well as from back button to reject phone call button and vice versa. The applications can be configured via the RightUpApp, RightDownApp, LeftUpApp and LeftDownApp registry keys. The required length of the stroke can be configured via the GestureMinLen registry key. Unfortunately, the program has to poll HTC's NAV sensor directly in order to not disturb the functionality of the wheel sensor. The sleep time between two polls can be configured with the GesturePollingDelay (in ms). If you use very fast strokes and the device does not react, try to decrease this value.
- Key lock if device is face down. The key lock is activated and the device is powered off if it is turned face down. The key locked is acknowledged by two short vibrations. Key lock can be disabled depending on the foreground window or active process list. Exclude list can be specified via the ExcludedProcesses and ExcludedWindows registry keys. The tolerance for the face down detection can be configured via the FacedownTolerance registry key.
The registry settings for Buttler are stored in HKLM\Software\Butler. Each extension described above can be switched of by setting the EnableFeature registry key to 0.
As I have not much time to react on bugs or feature requests, I have also attached the source code. Fell free to modify my Butler but please publish it here so that we all can benefit from it.
The Butler service is started with the program "StartButler.exe" located in the Windows directory. I call it from a MortScript during device boot. It is important that HTC Touch Flo 3D is already loaded. For some reason, the gsensors can not be initialized if Touch Flo 3D is not loaded. Here is the code I use:
# Wait for TouchFlo3D
While(ProcExists("manila.exe")=0)
Sleep(1000)
EndWhile
# Start the butler
Run("\Windows\StartButler.exe")
Have fun!
Siggie
Change log:
V1.0:
- Initial release
V1.1:
- Reading of the NAV sensor completely rewritten. The sensor is now directly polled. This does not interfere with other programs, so the wheel sensor and the camera is working again.
- EnableFeature registry keys added for switching off each extension individually.
linuxis said:
New thread For Keyboard Slide Out Support:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3305730#post3305730
Updated CAB is there. Happy using.
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sounds like an excellent program, I'll try it
man, great app. it is totally replacing hbutton, and lets me start using voice commander again. two questions....can you list the other sip layout entries? i really want to use the full qwerty when the stylus is out and in. secondly, is there a way to define a diff lock such as s2u2 and then shut down. either way, the function is fine as is and really, thanks for sharing
I'm interest in Stroke Launcher more than the other apps. is there a chance you can provide a cab for just that portion of your application> I know it's contrary to your original intent (of combining apps) but that's the only one of those apps I really would want so I have the opposite- no desire to install any extra apps even if it's a single process Thanks.
about to give it a shot, sounds great
but i second the request to have s2u2 when put face down
noticed that if you delete the entries for sip, keeping the actual keys though. butler wont start. guess it still needs to check those values i was trying to get it to do nothing to my sip's and just keep full qwerty.
edit** here is the key for full qwerty {36BC8FF6-8241-4c36-ABDE-204885471FEE} and the other keys are all listed under HKCR/CLSID and look like this:
(HTC SIPs)
{198D503A-...} = Phone Keypad
{36BC8FF6-...} = Full QWERTY
{62B00599-...} = Compact QWERTY
(MS Default SIPs)
{42429667-...} = Keyboard
{42429690-...} = Letter Recognizer
{42429691-...} = Block Recognizer
{F0034DD0-...} = Transcriber
Maybe it would be easier to be able to just input the name
Sound great, I'll give it a try as well.
can you make it so that when it face down, the light turn off?
ok i figured out how to change what sip came when
and i turned off "facedown"
only problem is that the smart scroll such as zooming in opera and pics no longer works or autofocus in camera
Great app cannot go unrecognized!
so i downloaded and installed and forgot to make shortcut. A day after i just luanch it using fileexplorer with copy on storage card. Sounds like alot but considering i only reset once a week maybe... its not so bad.
After using it for a half day. I have to admit i was waiting for a way to use shortcuts with out using manilla. I am a RLtoday fan and i dont really use all of manilla features. I LOVE IT. I am considering removing Manilla all together. This has great potential for those of use that want alternatives to manilla.
This should really be placed in essentials.
Thank you.
**BTW cant get screen lock disabled, anyone have more detailed instructions for disabling face down lock?
to disable the lock i set the sensor threshold to 0
in the registry path that was said earlier in the thread
V1.1 available
I have added a new version that fixes the wheel sensor and camera problem. There are also now registry keys available to switch off each feature individually.
ok I dont know what happend but i installed this app and after a restart the keyboard pops up on the splash screen and the phone freezes.. I need a resolution fast. I really dotn want to hard reset. I have a lot of stuff i need back up.... Please help!!!
fuk it. had to hard reset.
any chance on just releasing stroke launcher as a standalone app so we don't need to install all and then disable them? Thanks
Exclude S2U2
How can I disable stroke launcher, when s2u2 is active? I tried to add S2U2(name of DWORD value=0) to ExcludedWindows and s2u2.exe to ExcludedProcesses, but stroke launcher is still active, any ideas?
Great App siggie1970,
Thanks .. I Think The most important thing to do now is to add a User Interface for the configuration..as it kinda hard to do it through the registry
thanks
Wow amazing programs are being released and 09 just started. Great name btw How are resources being used with this program? Since your combining apps perhaps you could work with the guy to incorporate his new alternative to gyrator/ screen tilt app.
bugsykoosh said:
any chance on just releasing stroke launcher as a standalone app so we don't need to install all and then disable them? Thanks
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that is not the purpose of the program
would it be possible to turn one of the sides into scrolling up and down?
like leave the left up and down for app launching but right side scrolling that would make it pretty much perfect for me
then of course a configurator, although i got it setup but no fun having to change on each new install
It sounds like a great program, thanks! Stroke Launcher, I like that one LOL
Has anyone found a way to unlock and lock the Nest x Yale door lock
I would just like a button widget i can press that will unlock my door
or even better a way to connect it to Google home to unlock
I found your thread looking for the same solution - couldn't find one so I made one myself.
For those of you with even beginner level tweaking experience you can accomplish the unlock using tasker and autoinput apps. I have it setup something like this:
Activated by a profile (shaking the phone, long volume button press, etc)
Launch Nest app
Wait 5 seconds
Select Lock button - note that I had to disable "Spaces" on my app, but I think it looks better that way anyway
Wait 3 seconds
Gesture swipe from x,y to x,y+200 over 3 seconds - you can get the x,y number by enabling developer options on your phone and turning on cursor tracking. This is the physical location on the screen so it will vary from phone to phone
Wait 1 second
Go home
It's not the cleanest option but now I can get out of my car, unlock my phone and long press my volume button to launch this little command and my door will be unlocked.
There is also another app, Autovoice, that I am messing with made by the same developer. This allows integration into your google home devices, and you can create a Routine that will act like a shortcut. So I can say "Hey Google, Front Door" and have it set up to be read by google as "Hey Google, ask Autovoice to Front Door" - more info on AutoVoice here https://joaoapps.com/autovoice/
The biggest hurdle with using voice is like I said above, the nest app doesnt have a "button" for the unlock area - I suspect they did this to avoid apps like Tasker from finding something to "click" since it uses the same triggers that technology like Voiceover/Talkback use to find objects to select. So if you wanted to have a full on demand voice unlock you will need a spare android phone plugged in somewhere in your house to be a dedicated nest operator. Autovoice can specify which device you want the command to run on, so you would point to that device. Using that, it might even be easier since you could have the nest app always open, never sleeping or locking, on the lock/unlock screen. Tasker would just have to run task #6 above, which would decrease the processing time to make it almost instant similar to the lock command via OK Google.