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Reception gone down after GPS upgrade?

When HTC first sold the P3600 they said they disabled the GPS chip set because it interfered with the GSM radio. From what I’ve been reading in some of the posts, some people are still experiencing a desensitized radio section after upgrading to the new GPS enabled ROM. Maybe this is why it is taking HTC so long to release the official ROM.
I’d like to hear from posters who have upgraded to the new ROM to see who has or has not seen their signal strength decline after the GPS ROM upgrade.

Mine is fine, still 3-4 bars. I use GSM850 out here in the wilds of Canada, though.

I had the same problems with signal after upgrading to dopod rom. However, I also updated radio to 1.38 and now GSM signal seems to be much better. Not excellent but reasonably good.

I've compared mine Running the Dopod Rom with radio 1.38 with a friends running the original non gps HTC rom and got the same signal,we were both using the Greek Cosmote network "Gsm 1800"and we had both selected the gsm band and disabled 3G .

Poor Radio - S/W or H/W?

I'm seriously considering returning my Diamond, due to poor radio reception. In areas where my old Kaiser could get a signal (1 bar) to Diamond loses signal completely.
Is this software or hardware related ? Will new radio versions improve the Diamond in this respect? I'm on T-Mobile in the UK, and was wondering if using their radio (once they release the Diamond) will improve reception for me?
Thanks all!

I'm also in the same county as you and have just switched to t-mobile - I find the reception really poor. So I've gone back to my Orange SIM. which works well.

I get the same thing.
On my touch dual i comfortably have a H with 2 bars of reception.
On my diamond i have a H with about 1 bar, then a G with 2 bars then the letter goes completely and a cross appears and the signals still there. And this just keeps on happening.
Strange as its ok at work and its ok most other areas just a worse reception at home.
Ive found that turning the HSDPA off means that i get the 3G symbol up now instead of the H but again in certain areas of my house, the above happens with that, but i have found that its better like this, so im going to stick with this setup until a new radio version appears.
(its a shame HTC dont release the Roms so we can update our phones as and when they are tested - thank god for XDA Devs!)

Thanks for your input.
Going back to my original question, will future radio versions improve reception (e.g. using the radio from a T-mobile branded Diamond), or is this a fundemental hardware issue?
Cheers.

I really hope that future radio versions improve reception but i am pretty sure it is a hardware issue because of the size of the diamond. Perhaps they had to reduce the size of the integrated antena of the radio to fit into it.
For the same reason, the gps reception signal is really weaker than the one on the kaiser.
We can't have all : really small unit and stronger signal

saquib said:
Thanks for your input.
Going back to my original question, will future radio versions improve reception (e.g. using the radio from a T-mobile branded Diamond), or is this a fundamental hardware issue?
Cheers.
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I would hope so, I updated from ROM 1.34 (which had a bad GPS signal) to 1.37 (which the GPS signal was greatly improved).
I would of thought another ROM would be out in a few weeks when the UK Operators sell them officially

One thing ive noticed with my UK Diamond is that before i make a call...i have the H symbol but when im making a call or receiving a call it will go G which means GPRS. Not that it affects the quality of the signal as its spot on really.
Just noticed it as my nokia n95 8gb always had the 3g symbol on the screen...never noticed it flit between 3g to GPRS...when i was browsing the internet then it would go to 3.5G.
Any ideas as to why that happens??. It will only flit between HSDPA and GPRS...which i find strange because im using a 3G sim card and would have thought if anything it would go to 3G symbol...only way i can get the 3G symbol is by forcing the phone not to use auto settings in the network settings page.

kapteg92 said:
I really hope that future radio versions improve reception but i am pretty sure it is a hardware issue because of the size of the diamond. Perhaps they had to reduce the size of the integrated antena of the radio to fit into it.
For the same reason, the gps reception signal is really weaker than the one on the kaiser.
We can't have all : really small unit and stronger signal
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Small unit? It LOOKS small, but it has the same size as the touch cruise if i compare them.

Yzord said:
Small unit? It LOOKS small, but it has the same size as the touch cruise if i compare them.
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uh, no.
Diamond = 102x51x11.5mm = 59,823 mm^3
Touch Cruise = 110x58x15.5mm = 98,890 mm^3
Diamond is almost 40% smaller by volume

jehlinger said:
uh, no.
Diamond = 102x51x11.5mm = 59,823 mm^3
Touch Cruise = 110x58x15.5mm = 98,890 mm^3
Diamond is almost 40% smaller by volume
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You tell him

3 UK Diamond and HSDPA

Hello guys, I have a diamond and am using my 3 UK Simcard 3G is fine (in fact its pretty darn good most of the time) but I never get HSDPA which I did occasionally get with my Orange SIM.
Does anyone use 3 UK and the Touch Diamond and what's your experience with HSDPA?

I am also using a 3 simcard and get H most of the time, the best way to see if you should be getting HSDPA is to click on the link below and enter your postcode to see what coverage is available in your area
Also .05 is a lot better than .03 of the radio as well
http://www.three.co.uk/personal/coverage_/broadbandCoverageChecker.do

I live in Greater Manchester in the UK and use the 3 UK network. Admittedly the reception isn't as good as it was with my N95. I now lose 3G reception around at my brothers which I didn't previously but when I do have 3G reception I almost always get HSDPA and browsing on Opera is ALOT faster than it was on my N95.
I have just clicked to open Opera and once the 3G internet connection was opened it instantly switched to 3 bars HSDPA.
I am using the .05 radio
I have just checked the coverage checker and I should get HSDPA at my brothers house too but I struggle with 3G so as we know the radios need some work.

hmm curious
I also use 05 radio have XSeries Gold but have not once seen a H - not with any packet connection up or down with 3 SIM - funny thing is I live in London - its really bugging me LOL.
Keep the feedback coming guys

Experiment time
I am going to use trackme to save my GPS route after a long drive round areas and upload a KML file for Googlemaps to create the route and see if should be getting HSDPA in those areas - that will prove it to me

daleski75 said:
I am also using a 3 simcard and get H most of the time, the best way to see if you should be getting HSDPA is to click on the link below and enter your postcode to see what coverage is available in your area
Also .05 is a lot better than .03 of the radio as well
http://www.three.co.uk/personal/coverage_/broadbandCoverageChecker.do
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Tried that and it says my area is fully enabled!

Hard reset fixed HSDPA
Well, after a hard reset HSDPA surfaced and initial tests show around 1.8mbps - yey

Telstra Rom please in the US.

Hey gusy I just got my Aussie HD with 3G on 850mhz but I think I crapped it up. I did a hard spl then went to a custom rom and now I have no 3g when I did before. Can anyone please point me in the right direction.
Thanks,

turcomora said:
Hey gusy I just got my Aussie HD with 3G on 850mhz but I think I crapped it up. I did a hard spl then went to a custom rom and now I have no 3g when I did before. Can anyone please point me in the right direction.
Thanks,
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it would help if you tell us what custom ROM you used AND if that ROM included a Radio. if it didn't include a radio, you should be ok... also, can you get an internet connection? did try going into Phone->Menu->Options->Band Tab->and select WCDMA for GSM and the 850/1900 UMTS band -> click OK and then see if you get a signal? these answers may help us solve your issue.

OK so I found the telstra rom and what back to it. Still could not get 3G. But with that rom I did at least have the 850mhz as an option under settings, phone, band. I was for sure that Houston had the 850mhz but I could be wrong. So now I am on Rom version: 1:19:831:0 (25581) Radio 1.10.25.25. Let me try changing those settings like you suggested. Is your reception good up there in Dallas?

my reception in dallas depends on my location... at home i usually get a solid EDGE signal. i'll get a stronger 3G signal if i go outside. conversely, here in KC, i have a solid 3G signal everywhere i go. so what ROM did you flash to your phone? and did you flash a Radio ROM as well?

turcomora said:
OK so I found the telstra rom and what back to it. Still could not get 3G. But with that rom I did at least have the 850mhz as an option under settings, phone, band. I was for sure that Houston had the 850mhz but I could be wrong.
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Not every area in the US is covered by the 3G 850mhz bandwidth by at&t. I wish the online retailers would put. May work in North America. I'm sure if you traveled around the state a bit you would find that your phone gets 3G in some areas.
I also have the option to select 850 and 1900 GSM & 3G in the settings.

AllTheWay said:
Not every area in the US is covered by the 3G 850mhz bandwidth by at&t. I wish the online retailers would put. May work in North America. I'm sure if you traveled around the state a bit you would find that your phone gets 3G in some areas.
I also have the option to select 850 and 1900 GSM & 3G in the settings.
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May I ask what rom & radio you are using? The original Telstra rom & radio show under settings, phone, options, bands the 850 spectrum and a bunch of different combinations. I hate the tf3d on the telstra rom because it is loaded with all of there carrier stuff but I want 3G. It seems that when I change roms even if I keep the same original radio I lose all those band spectrums under settings, phone, options, bands. What would you suggest?

cortez.i said:
my reception in dallas depends on my location... at home i usually get a solid EDGE signal. i'll get a stronger 3G signal if i go outside. conversely, here in KC, i have a solid 3G signal everywhere i go. so what ROM did you flash to your phone? and did you flash a Radio ROM as well?
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Well right now I went bacl to the telstra rom & radio because I seem to lose bands if I change rom even keeping radio the same. May I ask what rom & radio you are running?

i'm running Dutty's 2.1 ROM with the new Manila. i had the same thing happen to me: one minute the Band Tab (under phone settings) are there and the next they're gone. there are 2 fixes i use when this happens: (a) simply soft-reset and they appear or (b) use a registry editor to goto HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting and then change the setting for ShowUMTSBandPage to 1. Sometimes i have to change the other Show****Page seetings as well. right now, my device is set to Auto for BandType and Network Type and i'm getting the H symbol everywhere i go in Kansas City. i know that once i get back to Dallas, the same settings will cause my signal to vasolate between H and E depending on where i am, e.g., at home it will likely be E. if you didn't flash a different radio, you should be ok. like AllTheWay said, you're probably not in an area with a strong 850 3G signal.

cortez.i said:
i'm running Dutty's 2.1 ROM with the new Manila. i had the same thing happen to me: one minute the Band Tab (under phone settings) are there and the next they're gone. there are 2 fixes i use when this happens: (a) simply soft-reset and they appear or (b) use a registry editor to goto HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting and then change the setting for ShowUMTSBandPage to 1. Sometimes i have to change the other Show****Page seetings as well. right now, my device is set to Auto for BandType and Network Type and i'm getting the H symbol everywhere i go in Kansas City. i know that once i get back to Dallas, the same settings will cause my signal to vasolate between H and E depending on where i am, e.g., at home it will likely be E. if you didn't flash a different radio, you should be ok. like AllTheWay said, you're probably not in an area with a strong 850 3G signal.
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I really appreciate the help. I am going to try to dutty's rom right now. His rom does it come with a radio? I will install phm reg edit and try that fix also. Thanks alot man, I will post my results.

turcomora said:
I really appreciate the help. I am going to try to dutty's rom right now. His rom does it come with a radio? I will install phm reg edit and try that fix also. Thanks alot man, I will post my results.
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no, Dutty's 2.1 ROM does not come with a radio. what ROM did you flash that cuased the BandPage to disappear?

I used the newest wwwe shipped rom. But the used udk's custom RUU and placed the nbh file from the old radio back into it.

Hey guys, I am considering getting the telstra version HD soon, I was just wondering what do I need to do to set up the phone for ATT, or is it good to go out of the box?
Also will all the phone features function normally with ATT? Thanks for any input.
Also wondering if i have read this thread correctly, as long as I do not change the radio and only upgrade the ROM after HardSpl, then I should keep the 850mhz 3g?

Same here I have a european version of HD. What do I need to install to get the 850 3G on ATT ? please advice

daraj said:
Same here I have a european version of HD. What do I need to install to get the 850 3G on ATT ? please advice
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you need another phone, a.k.a., the Telstra Touch HD. you will not be able to get 850 3G with the UK version of the Touch HD.

the telstra hd (T8285) is good to go on AT&T and Tmobile in the US....
straight out of the box...
another question i have is that i have the EURO HD. (t8282)..
in the BAND TAB (under phone settings) i have the options
UMTS (850 +1900) +GSM (850+1900)
does this mean that my phone will get 3g on an 850 MHZ network?
like AT&T or telstra in australia?
cheers

cortez.i said:
you need another phone, a.k.a., the Telstra Touch HD. you will not be able to get 850 3G with the UK version of the Touch HD.
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Can you point me to a good place or website to purchase the Aussie version because I I see online is the Euro version.

daraj said:
Can you point me to a good place or website to purchase the Aussie version because I I see online is the Euro version.
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here you go..
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HTC-Touch-HD-T8282-T8285-Telstra-US-8-GB-Micro-SD_W0QQitemZ280322363132QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Mobile_Phones?hash=item280322363132&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1308

Best ROM for T8285 on AT&T ?

I have tried every single ROM here, but sometimes when I try to answer a call the phone gets stuck.
The phone does it mostly on 3g mode, when i switch to GSM everything seems to work normally.
AT&t 3g is 850mhz here in Miami, I get 1.53mbps download speed but cant handle simple calls.
Is there a fix for this?
Thanks

EF7 said:
I have tried every single ROM here, but sometimes when I try to answer a call the phone gets stuck.
The phone does it mostly on 3g mode, when i switch to GSM everything seems to work normally.
AT&t 3g is 850mhz here in Miami, I get 1.53mbps download speed but cant handle simple calls.
Is there a fix for this?
Thanks
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All I can say is I have tried Dutty's 6.5, Miri's 6.5 and energy rom 6.5 and they all do it. I have tried 4 different radios and its still a problem. I hope someone on here can help because a phone that you cant answer calls with is real frustrating

Duttys 6.1 Turbo X didn't do it, but had issues with the SMS feature.

EF7 said:
I have tried every single ROM here, but sometimes when I try to answer a call the phone gets stuck.
The phone does it mostly on 3g mode, when i switch to GSM everything seems to work normally.
AT&t 3g is 850mhz here in Miami, I get 1.53mbps download speed but cant handle simple calls.
Is there a fix for this?
Thanks
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What Radio are you using? I had a very similar problem before I flashed a new radio.

I've been running Dutty's 6.5 R8 ROM & Radio since I got my phone last week and its been flawless on 3G in my area.

turcomora said:
What Radio are you using? I had a very similar problem before I flashed a new radio.
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Ive tried all the Radios available on xda, same problem with all of them.
rotohammer said:
I've been running Dutty's 6.5 R8 ROM & Radio since I got my phone last week and its been flawless on 3G in my area.
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Might be an AT&T issue in my area, love the phone but dont know if I can keep it like this.

EF7 said:
Ive tried all the Radios available on xda, same problem with all of them.
Might be an AT&T issue in my area, love the phone but dont know if I can keep it like this.
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I am using 1.14.25.24 with the dll cab and my phone qulaity is excellent. Before this radio I was getting crappy reception, losing signal in areas of good strength. I also have my phone settings to WCDMA, GSM (1900 + 850) + UMTS (1900 + 850). Good luck.

turcomora said:
I am using 1.14.25.24 with the dll cab and my phone qulaity is excellent. Before this radio I was getting crappy reception, losing signal in areas of good strength. I also have my phone settings to WCDMA, GSM (1900 + 850) + UMTS (1900 + 850). Good luck.
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I tried the band setting you mentioned, no luck. My signal is excellent everywhere I go, the problem is just when I answer calls.
I'll keep on flashing roms until I find one that works properly

have you guys tried different SIM cards to see if that may be causing the problem? if the problem doesn't occur in GSM mode, it might be signal related (i know i'm reaching here... using the process of elimination method). your respective delimas are perplexing.... i know this doesn't help, but i've had my device since March 09, live in an area where 850 3G coverage is not that strong, flashed a buttload of ROMs (4 this week) and 2 different radios and i (knock on wood) haven't encountered similar issues. you might consider flashing the latest Telstra ROM from HTC. don't know if it was leaked earlier, but based on the website the ROM was released on 7/23/09.

Same problem with my bothers SIM (also AT&t) Im going to request a new SIm and see what happens.
Im gonna try the telstra ROM, hopefully its better looking than the one that came witht he phone. Thanks.

I don't have another sim to try but I have also tried different radios and the problem remains. I did notice for whatever reason, Miris manila 2.5 rom with the "data connection" set to off but the "3G" set to on doesn't have the issue and sill works on 3G. I always thought "data connection" and "3G" had to both be on but it works. I tried the same method in the energy 6.5 rom but it doesn't let me configure the connection that way

Flashed Duttys 6.5 R9
Data Connection is OFF
3g Connection is ON
1.14.25.24 Radio
Phone Network Settings: Type AUTO GSM/UMTS Band: 1900 + 850
I'm testing it now, it seems to be working properly

The problem is still there, don't know what to do anymore

all of the sudden mine doesnt do it anymore, I have been using Dutty's R9 rom and Miri's 6.5/2.5 rom and every call can be answered fine. I happened to catch one of the "phone review" guys on youtube say that he has been having "call on the 3G network" issues but edge was working fine. He is in San Fran ( 2.5 Hours from me) so maybe it was/is a network issue???

Flashed Duttys 6.5 R9
Hard Reset
Installed Rilphone.dll
Turned phone off
Enter bootloader
Flashed 1.14.25.24 Radio
Soft Reset
Data Connection is OFF
3g Connection is ON
Phone Network Settings: Type WCDMA - GSM/UMTS Band: 1900 + 850
it has been working flawlessly for 2 days now.
I believe that the radio was flashed incorrectly the first time, it looked like it was successfully installed.

Closing thread as solution and rom flashed