There are two listed tweaks for preventing the Diamond from turning the screen off during a call. I've done them both, and nothing happens. Are these tweaks confirmed to work for all phones, or just on some? It says the "Sleep" one works on european ROM -- do all European phones have the same rom?
I'm having a simmilar problem... It seems that the screen turns off after a set period of time... I thought that the light sensor was supposed to only shut the screen off when you bring it up to your ear, light gets dull... I have the phone sitting in well lit room and done got near it yet the screen still turns off..?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&page=2
give it a shot
I've read that if you remove the stylus while in a call, then the note program comes on automatically, but the screen will also stay on until the call is finished
There are two listed tweaks for preventing the Diamond from turning the screen off during a call. I've done them both, and nothing happens. Are these tweaks confirmed to work for all phones, or just on some? It says the "Sleep" one works on european ROM -- do all European phones have the same rom?
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there are more and they are the right ones. it is the light sensor. do a search. this forum has already too many posts on this subject.
here u have one that is called "(Solved for diamond) How to disable fast dormant display during call?"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&highlight=Screen+call
PaulusUK said:
I've read that if you remove the stylus while in a call, then the note program comes on automatically, but the screen will also stay on until the call is finished
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yes, you are right and this is in my humble opinion the best solution. this way even if u touch with yr ear/cheek the screen no funny noises and no unwanted programs popping up not to mention that this way u have the choice and if you don't need the screen it stays black.
If you want to turn your screen back on during a call just simply press the round center button once and it will turn back on. no need for any hacks.
Thanks for the help
From what I have read, the phone screen should only turn off the screen when you bring it up to your ear/there is low light on the light sensor in the handsets ear speaker... My phone's screen shuts itself off after 3 seconds or so, doesnt matter where light is... If you just disable fastdormant (1 to 0), does the phone still shut itself off after x seconds or does it wait until there is a change in light?
Can anyone confirm/clarify the above???
Also is it possible to reactivate the display once the phone detects a sizeable change in brightness again? From reading the links posted, no one has found a solution for this one yet..?
The screen will not turn off as long as you continue to touch the center button during call. The default setting work fine with me until I need to get information during a call yesterday. The center button touch allow you to use other functions during phone call.
[EDIT] STRANGELY ENOUGH, AFTER ENTERING THE REGISTRY AND JUST LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THE KEYS HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEM BELOW...
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My problem is that my phone won't go into the sleep mode when calling. Covering the phone doesn't help (I've tested the light sensor, and that still works)
For me this feature is a positive thing so I would like it to work again.
The registry entry for the EnableFastDormant is still on "1". The HTC Phone Skin is loaded (without that skin it doesn't work either).
When searching the forum I come across people who want their screen to stay on... I want the opposite to happen again. Anybody a suggestion?
205_lacoste said:
My problem is that my phone won't go into the sleep mode when calling. Covering the phone doesn't help (I've tested the light sensor, and that still works)
For me this feature is a positive thing so I would like it to work again.
The registry entry for the EnableFastDormant is still on "1". The HTC Phone Skin is loaded (without that skin it doesn't work either).
When searching the forum I come across people who want their screen to stay on... I want the opposite to happen again. Anybody a suggestion?
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Check this reg entry as well:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone\Sleep - 1
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LightSensorPollingEnable - 1
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\BatteryTimeoutInCall - 5
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\BatterySuspendTimeoutInCall - 5
Also,
Start - Settings - System
Power
Advanced
Check the following:
Turnoff Backlight if device is not used for 30 Sec
Turn off Device if not used for 40 sec
All the best
Note: After changing Registry Entries.. (if you had to).. do a soft reset.
205_lacoste said:
[EDIT] STRANGELY ENOUGH, AFTER ENTERING THE REGISTRY AND JUST LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THE KEYS HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEM BELOW...
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Problem solved by looking at the values...
wow.. now that has to be the BEST and the EASIEST TWEAK IN HISTORY!!
L o r d R a j said:
Problem solved by looking at the values...
wow.. now that has to be the BEST and the EASIEST TWEAK IN HISTORY!!
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I know... However, it bothers me as it doesn't really show realiability. Why didn't it work in the first place!? I'm experienced enough to know that I didn't do anything to the registry.
205_lacoste said:
I know... However, it bothers me as it doesn't really show realiability. Why didn't it work in the first place!? I'm experienced enough to know that I didn't do anything to the registry.
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**** happens mate... no point in beating yourself over it.
Besides - it's WINDOWS - since when did Windows care about RELIABILITY.
Chill.
Let's just hope it keeps working.
Problem with 1.93 ROM
Hey,
I cant seem to get the screen to stay on during a phone call using Asia WWE 1.93 ROM....
I have got BattTimeoutIncall = 0
BattSuspendIncall = 0
Phone\Sleep = 0
EnableFastdormant = 0
but the screen still turns off if i leave the phone sitting on the desk under light exactly when the call time ticks over to 4 sec (0:03 to 0:04)...
Ideas anyone, is this an issue with v1.93 rom?
Thanks.
this works!
Does this still enable the light sensor???
Still want the light sensor to work - i.e. turn off the screen when i bring it up to my head...
NightWolf88 said:
Does this still enable the light sensor???
Still want the light sensor to work - i.e. turn off the screen when i bring it up to my head...
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i dont think it disables it, but you can enable it either way with diamond tweak.
Blazeitup123 said:
i dont think it disables it, but you can enable it either way with diamond tweak.
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Thanks for that
It works, but when I enable the light sensor polling in reg it goes off after about 4 secs... This is with a very bright light and no movement of the phone (sitting on flat surface)...
the only on of thos I see in my reg is HKCU phone sleep
where the hell are the others?
alexfendi said:
If you want to turn your screen back on during a call just simply press the round center button once and it will turn back on. no need for any hacks.
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This is actually the best option because it turns off the screen when you want to conserve battery life.
So I just press the Center button when I want to see the screen to use the keypad or speakerphone.
Also, I have disabled the phone shade (curtain) by doing this:
Code:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Phone/PhoneLockEnable = 0
Related
Hi,
Received my brilliant brilliant kaiser today. Every penny worth an upgrade from trinity apart from a slight brick feeling.
I was wondering if someone knows how to keep QWERTY keyboard lights on all the time while you are using the keyboard. At the moment they stay on for few seconds when keyboard is opened, but turns off later and don't turn on even on pressing keys unless you close and open the keyboard. It would be helpful to type in dark if backlight on keyboard keys stay on as long as keyboard is open.
thanks
heh i use the low tech way, i put my finger over the light sensor
I am wondering the same thing. There is an option for "Automatic keyboard auto sensor" for the backlight under "Settings....Buttons....Backlight" but haven't been able to get it to work. Where is the light sensor? I could possibly go high tech and put tape over it!
Update:
In the Registry, navigate to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER...Control Panel....Backlight....QKeyLedTimeout
and change the default value from 10(seconds) to something high eg. 180 (3 minutes).
This will keep the backlight on for the specified amount of time.
tworhythms said:
Update:
In the Registry, navigate to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER...Control Panel....Backlight....QKeyLedTimeout
and change the default value from 10(seconds) to something high eg. 180 (3 minutes).
This will keep the backlight on for the specified amount of time.
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so say you only need the keyboard for 1 min, when you slide it shut does it stay lit for the other 2 min or go off when closed?
One last update....the above registry mod actually will keep the phone button backlights on for the specified time as well as the keyboard backlight. So, this could be a bonus for some. Still haven't found the light sensor on this device I am guessing it is on the keyboard on the left side (tiny hole), but I still haven't been able to activate it. Anybody else had any luck?
XSIVSPD said:
so say you only need the keyboard for 1 min, when you slide it shut does it stay lit for the other 2 min or go off when closed?
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It will go off as soon as you close the keyboard
tworhythms said:
.....there is an option for "Automatic keyboard auto sensor" for the backlight under "Settings....Buttons....Backlight" ......
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Unticking this option actually fixes the issue... If you DON'T enable the auto-sensor, the light will come back on instantly on every new key press (any key..).
Stretching up the time-out with earlier suggested reg-mod is a nice added bonus...
The sensor is slightly left from the Q-key. A little black dot.
Strange,
I put my finger on top of it, and it did not light the keyboard
Rukyr99 said:
The sensor is slightly left from the Q-key. A little black dot.
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Yeah.. my light sensor is iffy... Maybe it is just a bug.. I can be in a totally dark room and they key backlight will not turn on. If i disable the auto sensor the backlight, of course, works as normal.
i think i will have to leave it disabled..
Auto Sensor on p4550
Hello,
I have a kaiser and my auto sensor is not work.
Anyone have auto sensor (for light keyboard) work on his kaiser ?
Thanks.
Private69.
@++++
That is exactly the same problem as I am having. I can't seem to get the keyboard to light up in complete darkness. My other devices never had this problem. The backlight would come on in darkness. Any suggestions?
tworhythms said:
That is exactly the same problem as I am having. I can't seem to get the keyboard to light up in complete darkness. My other devices never had this problem. The backlight would come on in darkness. Any suggestions?
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Most of the time it works for me.. The easiest fix it to simply disable the light sensor. It works just like any other PPC then. If it is misbehaving a reboot will fix it for a while. I haven't actually had any problems for a bit now. I wonder if it has anything to do with the lock password bug? I did disable my lock password and haven't had any problems since.. might just be a coincidence. Wouldn't hurt to try that too just to see.
how do i hangup a call?
the screen is black and therefor inaccessible after a very short while so i cant use the
on-screen red end-call buttun, and also the button on the right-bottom (phone-icon down)
doesnt work!!! (or sporadically: cant put my fuinger on that yet....)
i tried the tweak where my screen will stay up while having a call, but that one doesnt seem
to work on my rom-version or so? (standard 1.35 dutch version).
is there another (or new) way to keep the screen up while on a call maybe?
please help: this is highly annoying as you probably understand.....
Thanks group!
The (hardware) button on the bottom right should work normally if you want to end a call. It could be that there is just a little leg between pressing it (once) and the phone actually responding to it.
If you want the screen to pop on during a call, just press the power button on top of the phone. Could have figured that out yourself... (even by searching the forum)
what a problem.... lol.. did you assign the hang up button to something else??
thx guys!
no, not assigned to something else.
the power-button is ok yes, thanks. still: the screens display should stay on, right?
thank you!
much appreciated
babedieboe said:
thx guys!
no, not assigned to something else.
the power-button is ok yes, thanks. still: the screens display should stay on, right?
thank you!
much appreciated
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No the screen light will not stay on when your making a call. Simply put and its been repeated so many times on here now...that when you make a call the diamond light goes off as soon as the sensor senses that its near your ear...the sensor is next to the earpiece...clear little led light. What you can do to get around it...which is what i do is ring the number you want to ring and dont put it next to your ear until you get the vibrate ie when the call connects then put it next to your ear and the light should stay on...well it does on mine but if that dont work then when in a call just press the middle navigation button and that will turn the phone backlight on for you.
Spawn12 said:
No the screen light will not stay on when your making a call. Simply put and its been repeated so many times on here now...that when you make a call the diamond light goes off as soon as the sensor senses that its near your ear...the sensor is next to the earpiece...clear little led light. What you can do to get around it...which is what i do is ring the number you want to ring and dont put it next to your ear until you get the vibrate ie when the call connects then put it next to your ear and the light should stay on...well it does on mine but if that dont work then when in a call just press the middle navigation button and that will turn the phone backlight on for you.
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Spawn, you're absolutely wrong about the sensor... the screen light goes off regardless of whether you hold the phone against your face or not.. it's a timer..
Older phones like the Touch Cruise didn't have the sensor but yet it turns the backlight off after a few secs...
It's a timer setting in the Registry.
It turns the backlight off to save battery.
happyguy82 said:
Spawn, you're absolutely wrong about the sensor... the screen light goes off regardless of whether you hold the phone against your face or not.. it's a timer..
Older phones like the Touch Cruise didn't have the sensor but yet it turns the backlight off after a few secs...
It's a timer setting in the Registry.
It turns the backlight off to save battery.
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i thought spawn is right but i did a very simple experiment.
called my self from my fix phone and live the diamond on the table face up. i answered without picking the phone and after a few sec the light went off.
happyguy82-1, spawn and kukuriku-0
if there is a timer it has a registry and where there is a registry it has to be a "tweak".
btw, another way to have the light back and a safe background for yr ear is simply pull out the pen. you''ll get a note that will not bother anyone because it is not actionable by yr ear lol!
if you'll light on the screen with any other means you and your partner in the conversation will get for sure a few "beeps" when the phone pad is touched by yr ear.
happyguy82 said:
Spawn, you're absolutely wrong about the sensor... the screen light goes off regardless of whether you hold the phone against your face or not.. it's a timer..
Older phones like the Touch Cruise didn't have the sensor but yet it turns the backlight off after a few secs...
It's a timer setting in the Registry.
It turns the backlight off to save battery.
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Ermm no it doesnt...i just made a call to test your theory....didnt put the phone to my ear and when i did the light still stayed on. Left the diamond still connected for about a min or so and still the light stayed on...
On my phone i have the TLR version 1 rom running and made a few adjustments in the power settings so dont know if thats made any difference to the light staying on etc.
Spawn12 said:
Ermm no it doesnt...i just made a call to test your theory....didnt put the phone to my ear and when i did the light still stayed on. Left the diamond still connected for about a min or so and still the light stayed on...
On my phone i have the TLR version 1 rom running and made a few adjustments in the power settings so dont know if thats made any difference to the light staying on etc.
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you are right ...i think i didn't pickup the phone but i was too close, looking at the screen....and that was enough to start the sensor.
checked again keeping asafe distance from the phone and the screen doesn't turn off...
the iphone switches the screen off when it goes to your head then turns back on when u take it away. is there a simple app for this??
Phone lacks the proximity sensor the iPhone has. Fortunately, it has a plethora of other useful features (a keyboard, picture messages, etc.)
pmow said:
Phone lacks the proximity sensor the iPhone has. Fortunately, it has a plethora of other useful features (a keyboard, picture messages, etc.)
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To add on to that the phone also goes to sleep when the call is connected and its just a matter of pressing the power button to get it to wake up again.
mine doesnt
Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
jok3sta said:
Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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is there a setting for this?
is it possible to in fact use the light sensor? it obviously recognizes something when it turns off, maybe write up something saying "when dark below 'x' threshold, turn off screen. when bright above threshold, screen on. you would have to press the screen somewhat snugly to your face, but it sure beats nothing.
vader165 said:
is it possible to in fact use the light sensor? it obviously recognizes something when it turns off, maybe write up something saying "when dark below 'x' threshold, turn off screen. when bright above threshold, screen on. you would have to press the screen somewhat snugly to your face, but it sure beats nothing.
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It should be possible, but no one has done anything with the light sensor of turning it back on. I'm thinking that the polling of the light sensor turns off when the screen is in standby. If we can somehow get that to work in only incall (so it doesn't have battery issues), then it should work, when it goes from little light to more light, it should act as close to phone to far away from phone.
One could even use 2 sensors for it? Maybe the Light-Sensor and the G-Sensor. So when u bring the phone to your ear the light gets dark an the position upright. (the phone turns the screen off) And as soon as it get brighter and the position is change to normal (whatever that is ) it turns back on.
I reall would love to write something like that. But so far i have no clue of writing anything for that phone. Does anyone know a tutorial for writing software for a pda?
Thx
Come on guys this would be soooo great
jok3sta said:
Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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It doesn't actually do that when you put it up to your ear. It's a WinMo setting to put the phone in standby after a call is launched or received. What you preceive as behavior is actually a timing thing.
The guy from pocket shield managed to combine these two sensors, g-sensor and light sensor, to work together as locking/unlocking behavior.
maybe some g-sensor and lumos code can handle this thing... and create one cab solution here...
if some one could write this code it would be an AWESOME addition to the Phone. I would personaly love this as im sure many others would.
Thanks.
this is a bit late, but here's a cool app that i've found...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
no its not too late. if people look around they would have found it.
aonavy said:
the iphone switches the screen off when it goes to your head then turns back on when u take it away. is there a simple app for this??
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searching is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
warri said:
searching is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
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reading is your friend..look at the dates posted
I Have gone straight from the Orbit2 to the Diamond2 however I seem to have a small problem with the device lock that i used to have on the front screen as it only works if i disable the touchflo3d homepage that i kind of like.
Anyone have any ideas/suggestions/3rd party screen locks that are practical?
PS. had the phone 2 days and not really had time to read manual thoroughly etc so if there is a really simple response to this then I apologize
try holding the end call button for a few seconds
Thanks. Am guessing that was in the manual but must have missed it in skim reading it.
not sure mate i don't read the manuals either i just asked the same question on the TD1 haha
I was also very disappointed by missing LOCK option - thanks, maybe next time, i could at least download that manual from HTC
db_darryl said:
I Have gone straight from the Orbit2 to the Diamond2 however I seem to have a small problem with the device lock that i used to have on the front screen as it only works if i disable the touchflo3d homepage that i kind of like.
Anyone have any ideas/suggestions/3rd party screen locks that are practical?
PS. had the phone 2 days and not really had time to read manual thoroughly etc so if there is a really simple response to this then I apologize
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TouchLockPro works on the Diamond2, it unlocks by light sensor and taking stylus out.
you can set long press of the end call button to lock screen "settings/personal/buttons/end key tab.
Anyway to set the TD2 to switch on by pressing any of the 4 bottons? Now mine is only able to be switched on by pressing the on/off button.
This lock the device automatical everytime when the backlight goes off.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight
AutoDeviceLockEnable from 0 to 1
After change no softreset is needed.
No way to activate the screen with the call/start/arrow/end call button?
you can use smart lock, it is free and very good.
How does one change the lock time?
I've set it but can't now access the time setting - I've read the manual and still no clue.
Tony
I am wonering if there's anything wrong on my TD2 ..
after i dialed a call or answering ...
my screen never turn off itself...
is this normal ?
or my light sensor is not working ?
any apps that I can test it b4 I send it back to service ?
use search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512212&highlight=screen
thanks my friend I actually did search.. but I guess I went with the wrong keywords about light sensor... and Screen off... instead of "Sleep"
again.. thanks very much
**BUT** My problem is the screen never turns off... during calls...
is that normal...?
or I have to install or tweak it myself ??
I read that post and installed that app... it just didn't work for me...
also... are there are app. that can let me use to "TEST" if my light sensor is working right ?
Yes thats normal. Doesn't work with the lightsensor but with the gsensor. Hold your Topaz flat the screen stays on. Hold him up against your ear the screen goes off. Turn it upside down en speakerphone comes too life. I just love it ! But it has nothing to do with the lightsensor
(im sorry for my very very bad english)
peter van lis said:
Yes thats normal. Doesn't work with the lightsensor but with the gsensor. Hold your Topaz flat the screen stays on. Hold him up against your ear the screen goes off. Turn it upside down en speakerphone comes too life. I just love it ! But it has nothing to do with the lightsensor
(im sorry for my very very bad english)
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OK... I will try it again.. thanks for the more detailed informations you just provided ^^
tried the one you pointed to - actually it sometimes works - sometimes not - I don't like such behavior. I would like to have full sleep like in diamond 1 - when you close the light sensor during the call the screen gets blank and it comes out only if you a) press power button b) take out stylus. The variant that is from your link activate screen when you say make volume higher
Works fine for me ! I call 50 times a day, works every time ! Did u callibrate the g sensor ? Maybe that works
thanks.
now it's better.
by the way - did you enable/disable some options inside this tool config?
only ignore the lightsensor
It works perfectly but I don't need it since the new Manila, during the call, interposes a panel that disables the buttons. So I think is just to save the battery. Uninstalled!
peter van lis said:
Yes thats normal. Doesn't work with the lightsensor but with the gsensor. Hold your Topaz flat the screen stays on. Hold him up against your ear the screen goes off.
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Does not work for me.
When holding the Topaz at the ear, the display is always on (and will go to Standby then after 2 min - the is the "normal" value in my preferences).
Tried to change use of lightsensor or "fast/quick standby" with HDTweak - no success .
Tatsch said:
Does not work for me.
When holding the Topaz at the ear, the display is always on (and will go to Standby then after 2 min - the is the "normal" value in my preferences).
Tried to change use of lightsensor or "fast/quick standby" with HDTweak - no success .
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install this first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991!: