Hi there,
I have the HTC Kaiser service manual, but I'm trying to determine if I really need to open the phone all the way up in order to do this.
My 3MP camera on the back has a piece of something that is on the lens from the inside. Every picture I take has a shadow of this speck of... well, I don't know what.
Anyhow, I need to open the camera lens cover that's next to the speaker, but I'd rather not have to go pull apart the entire phone. The frustrating part is they show how to remove the camera, but they don't flip the board back over so I can see if I can get inside the little box and clean it.
Has anyone tried this? I see some disassembly threads here, but no one has concentrated on specifically cleaning the camera so far.
Thanks,
TTFN
greggerca said:
Hi there,
I have the HTC Kaiser service manual, but I'm trying to determine if I really need to open the phone all the way up in order to do this.
My 3MP camera on the back has a piece of something that is on the lens from the inside. Every picture I take has a shadow of this speck of... well, I don't know what.
Anyhow, I need to open the camera lens cover that's next to the speaker, but I'd rather not have to go pull apart the entire phone. The frustrating part is they show how to remove the camera, but they don't flip the board back over so I can see if I can get inside the little box and clean it.
Has anyone tried this? I see some disassembly threads here, but no one has concentrated on specifically cleaning the camera so far.
Thanks,
TTFN
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haven't had the need to disassemble my kaiser yet but you can hit up mikechannon and ask his help on this.
cant you just pop the battery cover off and clean it out?
Nah... it's under the cover that's under the battery cover. If I take a picture without the battery cover, the crud is still there. It's just a speck. I can see it, but it's on the wrong side of the glass.
TTFN
Did you ever get the dirt out from the wrong side of the lens? I have the same problem only I have quite a bit of dirt on the backside of the lens.
Thanks,
Frank K
No, I couldn't find any diagrams that showed the next level of disassembly of the actual camera part. Since this is my only phone right now, I didn't want to do too much exploratory surgery.
The gunk is still there of course. I just don't know how it got in there in the first place...
Sorry I couldn't help more.
TTFN
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I need to replace the front housing / front faceplate on my tilt. I have read the service manual and watched some videos on taking apart the tilt and have read the wiki etc. My question is do I really need to disassemble the whole unit to just replace the front faceplate? It looks like I may just need to remove 4 screws on the rear of the faceplate. So can I remove the faceplate by just removing those screws or do I need to dissasemble the whole phone?
thanks!
taz
oh and I searched tis forum too, but to no avail. I dont want to take apart the whole unit if it isnt necessary.
Yes you can.
Refer to manual attached.
Info is in this forum so search again if you need more info.
freakin awesome. I had searched a ton for something like this and did not find anything, maybe because I was using the terms front housing and faceplate in my searches - I just didn't know what else it would be called. Thank you SO much, this will save me a huge hassle!
taz
Instructions will work - but you have to be pretty carefuly not to damage the rest of the unit and overflex the hinges. Potential for having the top and bottom section gap large than you would like.
Did the ENTIRE housing yesterday - wasn't that bad - just have to keep track of the screws and not forget anything. Have to follow the directions carefully esp when removing the keyboard from the housing - the plastic stick on piece really has to be removed. Followed the official HTC manual from Mike Channon and the only thing I didn't do was completely take apart the SIM to separate the slider. In hindsight should have done that to tighten the hinges a bit so the tilt mechanism is a little more firm. Held my breath when I pressed the power button but it powered up and it worked perfectly all day.
thanks for the tips stim!
I just got done replacing the front cover and everything fit back together ok, one spot on one of the sides has a very slight gap now where the new cover and the rest of the phone don't 100% touch but it is barely noticeable and you would probly only notice it if you were looking for it.
One thing that is missing from those instructions, is that there is one screw that you have to remove after unplugging the 2 ribbon cables, this screw is a B*tch to remove and even harder to put back. It was such a pain to put back that I determined it wasnt necessary and left it out. If you're looking at the front of the phone, this tiny screw is located on the upper right corner.
so I'm hoping that the gap will eventually close more on on that one problem area but I'm not too concerned with it.
thanks again for the instructions Mister B
taz
I tried to find why my pictures are soo foggy.
With backplate...
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff294/kiske13/TytnHotfix2.jpg
and without...
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff294/kiske13/Hotfix3.jpg
It's obvious that the plastic window of the camera is of a poor quality!!!
kiske13 said:
I tried to find why my pictures are soo foggy.
With backplate...
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff294/kiske13/TytnHotfix2.jpg
and without...
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff294/kiske13/Hotfix3.jpg
It's obvious that the plastic window of the camera is of a poor quality!!!
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dang thats a huge improvement man, it makes me want to try and take that piece out or fit a diffrent type of glass or sumthing there..
People always look at me weird because I pull off the faceplate right before a picture snap!
I thought everyone was aware of this already?
Pretty much everyone is aware, it is like taking the lens cap off before you take a picture.
Other solutions
I've seen some replacement battery cases where the lens cover is just a hole (usually for larger battery replacement covers) and heard of people carefully drilling a hole.
If I can get a replacement back cover I'd go for drilling although it would put the lens itself at risk
just try to pse some screen guard on it
or cleanwith and antistatic clot means fibre
this will solve problem
infact i m doin the same
i have pasted a skin guard on it
workking perfect
Has anyone tried taking a can of compressed air to the back of the Nexus One in order to try to clear dust away from the screen? I just want it off the center of the LCD screen, don't need to get it out as long as it's not that visible.
What about partially disassembling the phone (like taking out everything that doesn't require you to disconnect flex cables) and then blowing it with the air?
I managed to drop my phone a couple times and that seemed to have caused dust to get under the screen, but I don't want to take it apart completely until I've exhausted all other options. Returning it is also not an option in my geographic location.
Fancy meeting you here
How would the air get into the screen from the back? Isn't it supposed to be sealed?
I wonder if you could move the dust under the screen with static electricity. Get one of those plastic rods like they use for demonstrations in chemistry class and charge it up. Then drag it across the screen over the dust. Just be careful not to discharge the rod onto the metal body of the phone...
Even if you did attempt this...
It would probably leave an unremovable sticky film. That's one of the reasons they tell you not to use it to blow off camera sensors, lenses, and CCDs (you're supposed to use a blower bulb). The compressed air isn't just pure clean air, it's got a bunch of bull**** in it. Not to mention it could quickfreeze the OLED parts and ruin the screen permanently. I would NOT try it. In fact, if you clean the back (battery, SD, SIM area) make sure you hold a piece of CLEAN 100% cotton (best if it's from a t-shirt) over the camera sensor or it will blow off the IR filter. Hope this helps.
I have done it twice. I posted pictures up on here on a different thread the first time around, which was probably 3 months ago. Send me a pm if you want the pictures. It wasn't horrible to do, but I don't know that I'd recommend it unless you're already experienced in these type of exercises. I didn't have any adverse side affects to the screen.
Here's the before and after.. I have pictures of the dis-assembly as well.
Oh yeah, I also found that a can of compressed air wasn't strong enough. I used an actual compressor set at 60-80ish psi I think.
@enisoc lol...
The teardowns online haven't said that there was anything sealing the screen and the front cover, but the cellphone shops here that I've asked have said that they would apply a sealant if I paid them to take the phone apart for me.
It looks like I can't get to the dust with anything short of a complete teardown :-(. I took the canned air to the back of the phone and it didn't do anything, but I also didn't disassemble the battery tray (no torx screwdriver).
@dhendrix11 if you took the phone apart, why did you still have to use a compressor? Couldn't you then just take something and wipe the dust off?
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@enisoc lol...
The teardowns online haven't said that there was anything sealing the screen and the front cover, but the cellphone shops here that I've asked have said that they would apply a sealant if I paid them to take the phone apart for me.
It looks like I can't get to the dust with anything short of a complete teardown :-(. I took the canned air to the back of the phone and it didn't do anything, but I also didn't disassemble the battery tray (no torx screwdriver).
@dhendrix11 if you took the phone apart, why did you still have to use a compressor? Couldn't you then just take something and wipe the dust off?
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I used a combination of compressed air and a microfiber cloth. I found that it was impossible to find an absolutely clean spot on the cloth, so it basically just put dust back on the phone. I mostly used the cloth to wipe off smudges when I accidentally touched the back side of the lens/touchpanel, and relied on the compressed air to remove the dust. Also, I didn't detach the lens from the phone frame, so it's hard to get into the corners (where most of the dust is) with a cloth.
The second time around I had a lot less dust and tried cleaning it without fully removing the LCD. If you take the phone apart, you'll understand why you might want to leave the LCD attached and simply lean it back from the lens. However, in the end, I didn't find that to be effective, so I took the LCD out both times. I've got a small amount of dust back in there again, but may 5-10% of what I had the first time, and I really haven't noticed it at all, even out in the bright sun, which was the environment that I typically found it most offensive.
As long as you have patience, it's certainly a do-able task. The main reason I did it myself is because it was early on before anyone was reporting confirmed success of getting HTC to fix the issue free of charge with an unlocked bootloader. I didn't want to chance getting billed for it so it was a nice little project instead. Now that many people have proven that HTC will honor hardware defects regardless of unlocked bootloader, I'd go the replacement route if there's not some other reason keeping you from it.
dhendrix11 said:
I have pictures of the dis-assembly as well.
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Please could you post? Thanks
GyTe said:
Please could you post? Thanks
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Disassembly 1
Disassembly 2
Full breakdown and then put back together
Hi dhendrix11 thanks for the pictures... I've saved everything on my pc.
Cheers
well, I ended up taking my phone apart too, using the iFixit guide and the Youtube video. Actually not as painful as I expected it to be, but for some reason I did not have a rubber microphone channel under the bottom mainboard, and I didn't have a screw at the top left of the top mainboard.
I also didn't take the screen out completely, just pulled it up a bit and used tweezers and a cloth to wipe everything off.
Now I have a like-new screen!
Ok I've been everywhere and tried everything short of breaking out the torx. I'm not under warranty anymore, and of course it didn't start getting dusty until after it ran out.
if i take the back cover off and blow compressed air in the slot by the main camera it clears most of it out but it's all back within days. i'm only getting dust in the front camera area, none in the screen itself that I've found [I've taken it out in direct sun with no screen protector and scrutinized it].
I'm wondering if maybe the screws on the motherboard are loose or something creating a gap, I've dropped it a fair share of times. I can find teardowns for replacing the screen but nothing specific on the front camera, and being a nervous nelly i want all the info i can get my greedy hands on. I *think* i know where the parts are but cant find anything specifically saying "THIS IS THE CAMERA NEWB". I'm perfectly willing to take the case apart and the board out but i don't want to touch the glass, i'd probably get more dust in than out.
So to summarize my request =p
1. Anyone know of camera specific teardowns?
2. Anyone have this problem themselves and fix it?
3. If it does involve taking the glass off would it be worth it to pay someone to fix it, or is it more cost effective to just upgrade?
Hey, lucky you I just cleaned it myself. At the price of almost screwing up my incs forever. Look up YouTube on dismantling the incredible s, take it all apart, clean it from behind and fix it back. Had some loose connection when I was fixing it back so my screen couldnt light. Now its as good as new. Advice that if you try, be very very precise and careful. Good luck! :thumbup:
Screen is seperated from camera, don't worry about getting dust in there. Use the replacing screen video, sufficient information for you to tear it up. No video guides to fixing it back unfortunately, so just download the video, find a player with the reverse play function and do as according(nahh I'm just kidding)
You don't need to be a technician to do this. No brains required. I don't have any. Have fun!
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda app-developers app
I "had" dust over front camera too!!!
I didn't mind it; I'm talking in paste tense because my phone should be now in HTC's repair centre in Como with:
-dust under the screen ( top left area)
-but mostly because part of the digitizer is gone: a vertical row of about 1cm on the right...
So I think it's a common problem, pay attention on the screen...
Ok, so I am a serial note 9 breaker. This is my 8th one since they came out. Mostly I'm a klutz and I drop them, although I have had a couple stolen and a couple sent to me that were already defective before I could break them myself. The latest one.... I broke the little piece of glass on the rear facing camera. So I ordered that, and replaced it but in between the time I broke it and when I received the piece of glass the lens must have gotten damaged because the thing wouldn't focus on anything even somewhat close up. (I have a business reselling and take pics daily so this was a major issue) So, I decide to get a whole new rear camera and replace that. Which I did earlier today. I watched videos, and carefully completed each step. Twice. I know I put it all together correctly... took all the pieces of protective plastic off... didnt touch the lens.. I was very careful. But now when I turn it on and go to the camera app I have a black screen and it won't let me select any of the modes.. won't let me take a pic, won't let me touch the photo replay button.. it freezes and I have to close it out through the recent apps to be able to exit. I have reset the camera, wiped the cache and data, gone in to all the dang settings and did everything I can think to do.. I did a partition wipe... I'm stuck and about to go all Office Space on this damn thing and smash it to bits in the middle of nowhere while listening to gangster rap. And I really don't want to do that as I need my phone for my business. Someone please help? Did I miss anything.. is it possibly a bad part? I just don't know what to do from this point. Please and thank you
gonnagoofficespace said:
Ok, so I am a serial note 9 breaker. This is my 8th one since they came out. Mostly I'm a klutz and I drop them, although I have had a couple stolen and a couple sent to me that were already defective before I could break them myself. The latest one.... I broke the little piece of glass on the rear facing camera. So I ordered that, and replaced it but in between the time I broke it and when I received the piece of glass the lens must have gotten damaged because the thing wouldn't focus on anything even somewhat close up. (I have a business reselling and take pics daily so this was a major issue) So, I decide to get a whole new rear camera and replace that. Which I did earlier today. I watched videos, and carefully completed each step. Twice. I know I put it all together correctly... took all the pieces of protective plastic off... didnt touch the lens.. I was very careful. But now when I turn it on and go to the camera app I have a black screen and it won't let me select any of the modes.. won't let me take a pic, won't let me touch the photo replay button.. it freezes and I have to close it out through the recent apps to be able to exit. I have reset the camera, wiped the cache and data, gone in to all the dang settings and did everything I can think to do.. I did a partition wipe... I'm stuck and about to go all Office Space on this damn thing and smash it to bits in the middle of nowhere while listening to gangster rap. And I really don't want to do that as I need my phone for my business. Someone please help? Did I miss anything.. is it possibly a bad part? I just don't know what to do from this point. Please and thank you
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My bet would be on one or both cameras being non functional.
Had the same problem, broke the camera glass on the right camera. wile waiting for the glass i covered it with tape, just the glass hole on the right camera. Just this tape over 1 of the cameras made it non possible to use the left camera at all, black all the time but the camera app wasn't behaving like yours.. Looks like it need both cameras working together.
Have you put back the old module to see if the focus problem remains but at least the camera app working?