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[APP] AT&T Touch Pro FM Radio... Does it have the hardware?

Good and bad news about this. The radio works, with headphones that have an FM antenna! Yay!
But
The reception is bad...
and I mean, BAD. Cuts in and out of local stations that I always get 100% signal from a car or any other radio.

Mine works great and I'm 50 miles north of Atlanta.

TwistedTJ said:
Mine works great and I'm 50 miles north of Atlanta.
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You also don't have an AT&T Touch Pro...

Hmmm, the phone obviously recognises the headset is plugged in, but do you defiinitely have the right one?
Mine only works properly with the HTC S300 headset (Diamond and Raphael standard ones). When I tried it with my old Kaiser/Hermes headset, I only got faint radio, and a lot of static...

sub69 said:
Hmmm, the phone obviously recognises the headset is plugged in, but do you defiinitely have the right one?
Mine only works properly with the HTC S300 headset (Diamond and Raphael standard ones). When I tried it with my old Kaiser/Hermes headset, I only got faint radio, and a lot of static...
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Not sure if it's the identical set that came in the box, but I bought it from expansys and it's specifically noted to be for the HTC Touch Pro and include an FM radio antenna... I don't know beyond that.

Black93300ZX said:
You also don't have an AT&T Touch Pro...
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No but I do have an HTC Touch Pro and I would think the FM radio would be the same as yours.

TwistedTJ said:
No but I do have an HTC Touch Pro and I would think the FM radio would be the same as yours.
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Unfortunately, Black's AT&T Touch Pro didn't come with any radio software installed, or a headset, so he's starting from scratch...
I don't think anyone is selling the official Diamond/Pro headset yet, but I would assume that any HTC headset with an antenna should work, so I'm at a bit of a loss, as the software seems to be working and picking up some sort of signal.
Perhaps there actually is an antenna connection between the receiver and the headset that is inside the HTC Touch Pro, but was left out of the AT&T version?

This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.

matchtrader said:
This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.
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Haha, identical?
1) Different model names
2) No front camera
3) Different keyboard
4) Push to talk button
It's just wishful thinking. We're all assuming/hoping the UMTS radios will all be there, but don't say the radio working is any hint of that. ;-)

matchtrader said:
This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.
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Even if the hardware is identical and he is using the Radio software designed for Europe/Asia, then the software might be designed to pick up the even numbered bands (102.2, 99.8 etc). The radio stations in North America use odd numbered frequencies (102.1, 99.1 etc). Hence the terrible quality. Just a possibility.

anandoc said:
Even if the hardware is identical and he is using the Radio software designed for Europe/Asia, then the software might be designed to pick up the even numbered bands (102.2, 99.8 etc). The radio stations in North America use odd numbered frequencies (102.1, 99.1 etc). Hence the terrible quality. Just a possibility.
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Well, the other guy here (ATL area or wherever) said he gets fine reception, and that's with a european touch pro... So I don't know why it would be different for mine.
Might be because it's a different headset, who knows. Maybe someday I'll throw another $30 towards the ones that came with the phone.

Black93300ZX said:
Haha, identical?
1) Different model names
2) No front camera
3) Different keyboard
4) Push to talk button
It's just wishful thinking. We're all assuming/hoping the UMTS radios will all be there, but don't say the radio working is any hint of that. ;-)
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All of these are peripherals. Sorry if I was not precise enough in my post, but there has been much speculation on the boards by a lot of very credible folks that the internal radios and chipsets on these units are identical.
I was going to say something smart about your attitude but I won't.

matchtrader said:
All of these are peripherals. Sorry if I was not precise enough in my post, but there has been much speculation on the boards by a lot of very credible folks that the internal radios and chipsets on these units are identical.
I was going to say something smart about your attitude but I won't.
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Well I appreciate you not saying anything smart, that'd be a tragedy. As for the speculation of hardware, I'm fully aware of what's been questioned. All I'm saying is that the FM radio has as much to do with the UMTS radios as the PTT button and the keyboard, we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same but I don't think this should help that argument.

Black93300ZX said:
Well I appreciate you not saying anything smart, that'd be a tragedy. As for the speculation of hardware, I'm fully aware of what's been questioned. All I'm saying is that the FM radio has as much to do with the UMTS radios as the PTT button and the keyboard, we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same but I don't think this should help that argument.
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Hmmm, fm radio -- internal component, keyboard and PTT buttons -- peripheral and external. I am guessing logic is not your strong suit? Sorry for the tragedy.
By the way, if "we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same" (and who is "we"?) then why the smart-alek comment in the first place? Never mind; don't answer that. I think from the other threads on the forum it is pretty clear why.

matchtrader said:
"we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same"
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Sorry, by "we" I was referring to everyone I've spoken with from the forum who's done research regarding the subject. I spoke with one person who told me he saw a Q&A session with HTC's CEO regarding the Diamond, and something was said to the effect of "the US radio and MicroSD slot had to be removed to make it as small as it is..."
That would be pretty valid information towards saying the US radio should be present in the European Touch Pro.... The fact that I can listen to music on it, to me, isn't. But honestly I don't want to start anything, I'm on thin ice with the mods now as it is. I apologize for any rash comments and let's just be friends.

matchtrader said:
Hmmm, fm radio -- internal component, keyboard and PTT buttons -- peripheral and external. I am guessing logic is not your strong suit? Sorry for the tragedy.
By the way, if "we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same" (and who is "we"?) then why the smart-alek comment in the first place? Never mind; don't answer that. I think from the other threads on the forum it is pretty clear why.
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Last time i checked the hardware for FM radio, and for cellular signal were not the same. If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal, think about it. I do think it's far more likely that they cripple the abilities through software than by stripping out the hardware functions. If the test unit that Black has is able to start working with a simple cab addition then it is likely that scenario will continue with the official models.
I also will say that there is no need for the snarky attitude so many users seem to have here. It is not necessary to mock someone simply because they disagree with you. No matter how many time it gets said it seems that nobody listens...but here goes again "treat other members with respect" always!
Black93300ZX said:
But honestly I don't want to start anything, I'm on thin ice with the mods now as it is. I apologize for any rash comments and let's just be friends.
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Good cause then we'd have to find someone else with an AT&T touch pro to pester with questions.

"If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal"
Just for information - On all phones that have a radio, the wired headphones are always needed for the aerial. This is becuase the antenna in the device is not capable of receiving FM transmissions due to the wavelength of the signal. FM at approx 100MHz has a much larger wavelength thant the GSM signal (900 - 2100Mhz) and hence requires the larger aerial.

Black93300ZX said:
Well, the other guy here (ATL area or wherever) said he gets fine reception, and that's with a european touch pro... So I don't know why it would be different for mine.
Might be because it's a different headset, who knows. Maybe someday I'll throw another $30 towards the ones that came with the phone.
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Have you tried to tune into different stations? When you do scan for stations, does it let you scan the odd numbered ones? Can you manually enter the frequency for a specific radio station? Sorry, I dont have a Touch Pro or a Diamond myself so I cant do these tests.

This is probably a stupid question, but if the wired headphones are used as the antenna, does that mean that Bluetooth headphones can't be used to listen to the radio? There was a review on pocketnow that suggested that wireless headphones could be used (though I wonder if there's some specific HTC set they're referring to). I'm just curious.

ardsar said:
"If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal"
Just for information - On all phones that have a radio, the wired headphones are always needed for the aerial. This is becuase the antenna in the device is not capable of receiving FM transmissions due to the wavelength of the signal. FM at approx 100MHz has a much larger wavelength thant the GSM signal (900 - 2100Mhz) and hence requires the larger aerial.
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That was my point actually, because the person i was replying to was insistent that the cell radio had something to do with the FM Radio, which they really don't. sorry if that was unclear.

External Antenna for HD2

I've tried searching, and got no results, so would appreaciate if anyone could help with advice about how to set up an external antenna for the HD2.
The reason for asking is I'm off on a yacht race around GB & Ireland in June, in the absence of a budget that runs to Iridium sat phone connection, we are considering using the HD2 for downloading weather info onto the PC navigation software through the USB/modem feature. An external antenna, mounted on the mast (ie 16 metres higher) would increase the range dramatically. (Other option is we put the HD2 in a plastic bag on top of the mast and run a LONG USB cable up it )

6times7 said:
I've tried searching, and got no results, so would appreaciate if anyone could help with advice about how to set up an external antenna for the HD2.
The reason for asking is I'm off on a yacht race around GB & Ireland in June, in the absence of a budget that runs to Iridium sat phone connection, we are considering using the HD2 for downloading weather info onto the PC navigation software through the USB/modem feature. An external antenna, mounted on the mast (ie 16 metres higher) would increase the range dramatically. (Other option is we put the HD2 in a plastic bag on top of the mast and run a LONG USB cable up it )
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Being a radioamateur myself, I can assure you that the GSM and UMTS frequencies the HD2 uses are 'line-of-sight' frequencies. It really does not matter much to put it on a pole 16 meters high, sorry... Maybe you will receive the mast's signal better, but the mast will not recieve your HD2's signal that much better...
Rene

Hear what you're saying pa2ra, but line of sight is d=sqrt(13h), where d = distance and h = height above sea level. So at a height of 1.7m I'll get a range of 4.7 km, at 18m (ie 16m mast +2m boat) I'll get 15.3km - enough of a difference to consider an external antenna

have you thought about signal booster? you can get them from 50$ to 2000+$ depending how strong signal boost you need. those are meant for situations like yours.
those got good antenna, and repeat it to close range.
http://www.mobilesignalbooster.co.uk/
there are tons more, google is friend with "mobile signal booster"

And to answer the original question, the HD2 doesn't have an external antenna connection.
Hear what you're saying pa2ra, but line of sight is d=sqrt(13h), where d = distance and h = height above sea level. So at a height of 1.7m I'll get a range of 4.7 km, at 18m (ie 16m mast +2m boat) I'll get 15.3km - enough of a difference to consider an external antenna
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Could be a good start to tell us how much range you actually need... as it sounds it could be 1km as well as 200, and we're not necessarily enough into boating to know where a race takes place, hence the answer about line of sight

How about these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/b32e/
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/9823/
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/b8a0/

Thanks all, seems like the signal booster would be the way to go - however at those prices we could afford a sat phone connection - guess I was hoping to be able to plug an existing co-ax in somehow, and achieve the desired result on the cheap!
FWIW - race starts and finishes in Plymouth, so we race around the coast of GB & Ireland - shouldn't be more than 50 miles off land at any point, which would be well out of range at deck level, but might pick up a signal at the top of the mast.

chvvkumar said:
How about these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/b32e/
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/9823/
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/b8a0/
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Not suited for GSM / UMTS phones. I think these are only to be used in USA/Canada

6times7 said:
shouldn't be more than 50 miles off land at any point, which would be well out of range at deck level, but might pick up a signal at the top of the mast.
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Okay. Then I'd rather take some cheap phone that does data connection instead of the HD2. Firstly cause it would suck to have such an expensive device up there IMO, and secondly cause the HD2 isn't renowned to have the best signal reception out there.

kilrah said:
Okay. Then I'd rather take some cheap phone that does data connection instead of the HD2. Firstly cause it would suck to have such an expensive device up there IMO, and secondly cause the HD2 isn't renowned to have the best signal reception out there.
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Well I was thinking of sacrificing the iPhone I upgraded from, but the tethering charges are horrendous
Any ideas on the cheap phone with data connection, that has an external antennae, preferably on a co-ax connection, would now be appreciated.

You could put a MiFi device at the top of the mast?

The old school T-mobile dash actually has an external antenna connector on it hidden under a plug...and it's pretty old, uses T-mobile frequencies, and is relatively cheap to buy outright now. Plus it's Winmo, and has built-in tether/usb capabilities.
~Jasecloud4

I have done some research to get a decent signal for 3g to my HTC HD2 at my caravan. I found that you can get aerials with a cable terminating in a Modem Mate coupler which can be attached to your phone close to its internal aerial (bottom LHS on back of HD2) or to a usb modem. Only snag is the loss along the cable - normally supplied with 5m. I guess you could get an extension cable if you can tolerate the loss. Supplied by connextech.co.uk search for 3g external in their search box. ( URL not allowed in my post)

I need car audiophiles opinions

I have a 2002 Chevy Silverado 1500 2 door Reg cab. I'm thinking of buying these subs
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=310592924019
Now my question is, would they fit behind my seats? And if they do how would the bass be? Really loud, decent, or just plain crap?? Thanks in advance
Sent from Flip's S3

In the cab of truck you really don't need two subs since it is open, the sound doesn't have to travel far, nor go through anything like if it was in the trunk of a car. A single 10 should do you right and save space. I have a Alpine 700 watt mono-channel amplifier and an Alpine 10' 1000 watt sub in the trunk of my car and it blows away the systems of some of friends with two twelves. I bought those a couple of years ago but my sub was like $150 and the amp was like $250. You can get a decent mono-amp and sub system for around $300. I'd go play around and best buy and check prices online. If you go the single sub route a 500+ watt mono-amp will be good. Get a sub that can handle more watts than the amp pushes cause you don't want to blow it and have to buy another. You could also try and find two 8' subs. I had a buddy with and 2000 f150 and he put two 8s in there and it was banging.

Correct me if im wrong, but from my experience...
Kicker C10 subs sound pretty good for their cheap price and size, however as they are only 10" they may struggle to provide really deep and loud bass... depends on the type of music you listen to... and as space is limited you may not be able to fit much bigger.
I believe the package is let down by the audiobahn amplifier... i wouldn't try running it at its rated output for too long (audiobahn sometimes over-rate their amplifiers), it's also class AB which is less efficient than a class D amplifier... so if cooling is a problem (ie if the amp is going to be mounted under a seat or something) then i would look for a class D.
No idea if they will fit sorry, hopefully someone else can answer that.
In short - you will get decent quality sound, but dont expect bone-crushing bass with no distortion.
elflip88 said:
I have a 2002 Chevy Silverado 1500 2 door Reg cab. I'm thinking of buying these subs
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=310592924019
Now my question is, would they fit behind my seats? And if they do how would the bass be? Really loud, decent, or just plain crap?? Thanks in advance
Sent from Flip's S3
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The preferred term is autiomophile.

063_XOBX said:
The preferred term is autiomophile.
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Thank you ps3 for yet another insightful comment.
Sent from Flip's S3

FINALLY! A reasonably-priced AA head unit with capacitive screen and no fugly UI

The JBL CP100, announced at CES and available "soon" for less than US$400.
Supports AA and CarPlay, 4x45W speaker outs plus 4x line outs, Bluetooth and an analog FM tuner. Standard 2-DIN size. Steering wheel controls (they don't specify, but likely the standard resistive ladder type that will require a canbus box for most newer cars). This is what I've been wanting since AA was announced. I will be buying the very first one I can get my hands on.

Wow thanks for the news, didn't saw that !!!
Hope it will be comptible with my car (France).
Arf, I checked the dimensions and think the depth is too high for me ; but maybe if I take out the carter or put a cable between the screen and the motherbard I can reduce it, will see. ^^
I will wait some feedback first !
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I don't see any photos on that page.

mkygod said:
I don't see any photos on that page.
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Click on the links that include the word "photos".
For "int photos" click on the PDF link.

[Discussion] 7 Pro - Features it's missing and why they don't matter

I've read a few articles or discussions bringing up feature that the 7 pro lacks, often times mentioning that individual items by themselves are deal breakers or several together might lead someone not to buy it.
Here are some of the ones I've seen the most, and why they really aren't a big deal
No 5G - 5G is still in its very early days and won't see widespread adoption for several more years. If you're not in one of the top 10 cities, don't be surprised if it you don't see it before the 7 pro's hardware is obsolete anyways. With all the new 5G phones coming out soon, the number of people that upgrade to them will skyrocket and likely over-saturate the available 5G networks, bogging down the purported speed benefits. Further, 4G LTE hits more than adequate speeds anyways. 99% of what anyone does on the internet isn't going to require more than 10Mbps connections. Some video streaming might require more than that, but I've seen 4G tests hit nearly 100Mbps (consistent, not spike speeds), so it is more than capable of handling what people throw at it. Cellular providers limit video streaming in most cases to 720p resolutions anyway.
Even the advertised latency improvements aren't a big deal. The only area where super low latency makes a significant difference is online gaming, and 4G already hits sub-50ms latency. I've personally played FPS games with a latency anywhere from 100ms - 2000ms (<- not a typo) many many times before, and rarely noticed even 200ms negatively affecting my game.
No WiFi 6 - Again, a young technology which won't see widespread adoption for several more years (many public wifi spots don't even have AC yet), and promises unnecessary speed improvements. 4K content can be easily streamed through a wireless N router with no buffering.
No wireless charging - This may be more of a preference, but the way I see it, wireless charging limits you in exchange for essentially no benefits. You can't move your device around while it's on the charging mat, unless you also pick the mat up with it and hold them together; plus, it's slow. Plug in your phone and you can easily pick it up and continue to use it while it's charging. One of the big "benefits" to wireless charging that gets touted around a lot is "removing the hassle of plugging in". Well, the charging mat still needs to be plugged in, and plugging a cable into your phone takes literally one second. With the battery life phones are advertising these days you almost never have to plug in before going to bed anyways. Seriously, what is the point of wireless charging?
No IP rating - Oneplus has done a great job of waterproofing the phone already, and adding an "official IP rating" doesn't magically improve its existing water resistance. There are several water videos on youtube already, with one going as long as 30 (broken up) minutes in a water bowl. Another shows that 2 days after their test the phone is still working fine. TBF, there is one video which shows the phone gets water inside it after a period of time, but that is at a depth of 1.5m (approx 5ft), and water pressure increases with depth (ie water works harder to get in the deeper it is). Throw the most water proofed phone into the bottom of the ocean and I guarantee it will get flooded. The companies that do provide an IP rating for their phones don't cover water or dust damage anyways. Outside of walking in the rain most people will be keeping their phones dry, so this really is not a big deal in the least.
No 3.5mm jack - OK maybe I lied just a tad in my title, as this is kind of a big deal since there aren't any good alternatives yet.
No SD Card slot - The storage options available for the phone are already pretty good. With most media consumption now being streaming, high storage capacities don't seem quite as important (I don't need to tote around my 50GB+ music collection, I can stream off YT, Spotify, even set up a home streaming server), and there are several good cloud storage options available (mega for one gets you up to 50GB for free).
Well, that about sums up this post. Obviously a large part of choosing which phone to buy is preference and subjective, but I think that at least these complaints against the phone are virtually unfounded (with the exception of the headphone jack of course )

I pretty much agree, the only convenience of wireless charging is that different phone types can use the same charger for example Samsung and an iphone can wirelessly charge on the same pad with no need for specific cables.

vv211 said:
No 3.5mm jack - OK maybe I lied just a tad in my title, as this is kind of a big deal since there aren't any good alternatives yet.
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There are adapters available which will allow you to charge and use headphones at the same time. https://www.amazon.com/Charging-Ada...way&sprefix=usb-c+charge+audio,aps,137&sr=8-1

It's a great phone, the first OP phone I have ever owned. I've always used Iphone and Samsung S/Note series before. But to me the camera is very important in a phone since I take a lot of pictures and even though I tried to make the pictures better with GCam and upgraded to latest OOS, I still think the camera is weak compared to the "flagships". Maybe the camera will improve one the next device but if it doesn't I plan to switch back to Samsung.

Can we expect to see the a 7T pro model with some of these features?
Or will the "T" model be the 7 Pro 5G with no other new features except 5G technology?

I'd love to have pocket mode back. Too many times it has become unlocked in my pocket for unknown reasons.

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There are adapters available which will allow you to charge and use headphones at the same time. https://www.amazon.com/Charging-Adapter-Headphones-Splitter-compatible/dp/B07TC1673L/ref=sr_1_1?crid=DHI0L7SYEI3K&keywords=usb+c+charge+and+audio&qid=1562094073&s=gateway&sprefix=usb-c+charge+audio,aps,137&sr=8-1
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Personally, I am in the "don't want to have to mess around with dongles" camp. One of the huge pluses to the 3.5mm Jack is it just works. I've read a few reviews of various dongles that say they don't work with certain phones. Compatibility was never a problem with the 3.5mm
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Can we expect to see the a 7T pro model with some of these features?
Or will the "T" model be the 7 Pro 5G with no other new features except 5G technology?
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I haven't really followed OP in the past so I'm not sure what kind of improvements/changes they typically make for their T model, but I had been under the impression that the 5G would be a separate model from the T

No Wireless Charging: I feel like no wireless charging on a glassbacked device is a big FU, No reason to drop metal unibody for weaker glass only to cut costs and raise profit margins the same reason no wireless charging included, "The whole it's slow" is a bs excuse, Xiaomi proved that with 20w wireless charging on the Mi 9.
No 3.5mm Jack: Why remove the universal audio port??? Again no reason, No alternatives only to push there crappy accessories. Why should we be forced to re buy headphone etc when our current headphones work fine? Also to touch on the charging point now as we have no headphone jack we have 2x the wear on the Type C port so wireless charging could of helped with that to migrate the wear and improve longevity.
No SD Card Slot: Again no reason to not include a dual SIM + Micro SD, Another reason to get you to buy higher priced UFS storage instead just like Apple does it. Other devices had no problem including a hybrid dual SIM.
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No 3.5mm Jack adapter: How can you remove the headphone port and then make you pay $12.95 for an adapter which is only passive so they cost nothing to make you can buy them from China for like 30 cent each. So think the cost to make it it's nothing to them yet they can't give us one in the box...
All bull**** just to cut costs and make the end user pay more ez marketing. We are getting less for more money.

Sd card not needed due to fast ufs storage 3.0. headphone jack - time to move on. . 5g and wiFi 6 . It sounds nice to have now just to feel a false sense of future proofing . But by the time these speeds become useful the rest of this phone will be outdated and most people would of moved on to the OnePlus 10pro. I started a whole thread about the disadvantages of the OnePlus 7 pro and th conclusion from everybody is that this phone offers everything somebody needs now and as a bonus at a fantastic price and for a very long time.

I find two very important items missing in the One Plus 7 pro
1) Notification Light
2) Sounds -> Vibrate on Tap

insomnia77 said:
Sd card not needed due to fast ufs storage 3.0. headphone jack - time to move on. . 5g and wiFi 6 . It sounds nice to have now just to feel a false sense of future proofing . But by the time these speeds become useful the rest of this phone will be outdated and most people would of moved on to the OnePlus 10pro. I started a whole thread about the disadvantages of the OnePlus 7 pro and th conclusion from everybody is that this phone offers everything somebody needs now and as a bonus at a fantastic price and for a very long time.
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Why do you feel it's time to move on from the headphone jack? You can get incredible sounding audio from it, it's royalty free (maybe USB-c is too? idk), any connector made to fit into the jack will just work, and no need for dongles or adapters. I've seen reviews on many usb-c headphones that they don't work with or aren't fully compatible with various devices
I agree with the other points though

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No Wireless Charging: I feel like no wireless charging on a glassbacked device is a big FU, No reason to drop metal unibody for weaker glass only to cut costs and raise profit margins the same reason no wireless charging included, "The whole it's slow" is a bs excuse, Xiaomi proved that with 20w wireless charging on the Mi 9.
No 3.5mm Jack: Why remove the universal audio port??? Again no reason, No alternatives only to push there crappy accessories. Why should we be forced to re buy headphone etc when our current headphones work fine? Also to touch on the charging point now as we have no headphone jack we have 2x the wear on the Type C port so wireless charging could of helped with that to migrate the wear and improve longevity.
No SD Card Slot: Again no reason to not include a dual SIM + Micro SD, Another reason to get you to buy higher priced UFS storage instead just like Apple does it. Other devices had no problem including a hybrid dual SIM.
I'll add another of my own
No 3.5mm Jack adapter: How can you remove the headphone port and then make you pay $12.95 for an adapter which is only passive so they cost nothing to make you can buy them from China for like 30 cent each. So think the cost to make it it's nothing to them yet they can't give us one in the box...
All bull**** just to cut costs and make the end user pay more ez marketing. We are getting less for more money.
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To me the wireless charging falls under the "bells and whistles" category; completely unnecessary, but convenient in specific instances. Your phone is still "tethered" to a specific spot; even more so than plugging in because you can't even pick the phone up or charging stops. Maybe it is becoming faster, but what I had read online indicated it was slower than wired charging.
I agree with the audio port issues. Very upsetting they removed it, and couldn't even include an adapter!
At first I thought it was just a blind copy of what apple did (far too much of that going on I think; from the headphone jack, display notch {I personally prefer full-on bezels over any type of notch/cut out/hole punch}, overall design trends {a lot of phones might be mistaken for iPhone at a quick glance these days}), but now I think it's just a money grab
SD cards I think are far less necessary these days with the increased storage capacity of the phones
BTW I like your profile image ? lol

missing fm radio/headphone jack. yes lots of people still love radio... and it's free!
notification led. could have included it.
a macro lens instead of telephoto. besides it's not very good, nor is it 3x.
a red color. like the blue, that would have been badass!
LOVE the popup camera. no more spying!
ability to remap vibrate/silent slider. kinda redundant

buschris said:
a red color. like the blue, that would have been badass!
LOVE the popup camera. no more spying!
ability to remap vibrate/silent slider. kinda redundant
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Red would be cool. I'm surprised they didn't make one!
Have there been any cases of apps using the front camera to spy on people? I hadn't heard of anything like that happening

for headphone jack, try a Bluetooth DAC such as Fiio's btr series. It is very likely better audio quality plus you dont have to tangle the wire since the dac is small and you can just clip it on your clothes somewhere.
I have btr3 and its awesome. All Bluetooth codec supported and sounds great. There are cheaoer options and they are good too.

18pcs said:
I find two very important items missing in the One Plus 7 pro
1) Notification Light
2) Sounds -> Vibrate on Tap
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Try this for notification light.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/themes/app-amoled-notification-light-t3943715/post79810512

buschris said:
missing fm radio/headphone jack. yes lots of people still love radio... and it's free!
notification led. could have included it.
a macro lens instead of telephoto. besides it's not very good, nor is it 3x.
a red color. like the blue, that would have been badass!
LOVE the popup camera. no more spying!
ability to remap vibrate/silent slider. kinda redundant
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You nailed it for the pop up camera. I was looking forward to under display camera but not anymore now that you put it this way. I would be sad to see it go for this reason. I would pay extra to have it on the next gen phone.

That pop up camera is so cool

insomnia77 said:
You nailed it for the pop up camera. I was looking forward to under display camera but not anymore now that you put it this way. I would be sad to see it go for this reason. I would pay extra to have it on the next gen phone.
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Have there been any cases of ROMs or apps spying through the front camera?

buschris said:
missing fm radio/headphone jack. yes lots of people still love radio... and it's free!
notification led. could have included it.
a macro lens instead of telephoto. besides it's not very good, nor is it 3x.
a red color. like the blue, that would have been badass!
LOVE the popup camera. no more spying!
ability to remap vibrate/silent slider. kinda redundant
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vv211 said:
Have there been any cases of ROMs or apps spying through the front camera?
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Not that im aware of. But Ive always covered them on my tablets and now some devices like the echo show 5 come with a slider to cover it.