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My headphone adapter for my MT3G recently stopped working, so I'm going to buy a new one soon, but I figured I might as well get a new set of headphones as well. Would you guys know of any good quality headphones? I'm interested in in-ear bud headphones with a built in mic. Also, would you guys know where I can buy the MT3G 3.5mm adapter? I found one on Amazon, but it's requiring me to buy the headphones with it.
Also a white pair of headphones and adapter is what I'm looking for, since I want it to match my MT3G color
Thanks in advance.
What sort of budget are you looking at? More and more highend in ear monitors (IEMs) are coming out with inline mic versions.
I don't really have a limit on price as of now, but if you know of one of equal quality, as the ones that came with the MyTouch 3G, or better. Send a link my way
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Ears-Isolating-Earphones-Microphone/dp/B000X26UTU/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1268359468&sr=8-16
Alittle pricey but companies tend to charge a premium for models with inline mics. You know, because of iPhone users...:-/
There are cheaper from Ultimate Ears too. Shure also offers a couple of models with inline mics.
Lol, that's a "little pricey"? I guess I can set my budget at about $40 then. If I can't find another I'll probably have to buy the ones that come with the MT3G.
Heh... Thats why I asked if you had a budget.
http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Earbuds-Headset-iPhone-Compatible/dp/B000WN00FK/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_2_2
These aren't half bad, their actual price are $39.90 (you have to add to cart to see the real price). These are on the way out as a new model just came out which is why they are fairly cheap.
Lol I didn't think headphones would cast that much, except for ones built for reasons other than usage on the bus. I might get that last one you showed me, it looks promising for sound and all that, but I don't know if I want something that will break in a few months thanks for the help though
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Motorola S9HD. Had a pair (until my daughter broke them). Used everyday for work/gym/home. Music and phone calls. $99 @ Best Buy.
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I am on the hunt for some good headphones that I can use to listen to music and answer/talk on the phone. I got some headphones off amazon that said they were for the incredible, however you can't answer the phone by the headphone controls... Has anyone found some good headphones?
Thanks
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I'd recommend pre-ordering the Klipsch Image S4A's. I have the regular Image S4's (no inline remote/mic, otherwise identical) and they sound incredible. They're well worth the asking price.
I am notoriously cheap. Um, I mean frugal.
Awhile back I looked around for earbuds and found a few that I liked. I like Koss, though they can tend to be kind of bass-heavy (to the point of muddiness). The Plug by Koss is an example of this: they fit wonderfully but can be a bit biased toward bass.
I replaced my Plugs by Koss with a pair of black Yamaha EPH-20 earbuds. They are quite a bit "brighter" than the Plug but don't skimp on the bass.
I personally can't see spending more than $30 or so on earbuds for my cell phone, so I hope this helps.
No brainier when these come out. Inline control works with Android, iOS and WindowsPhone for $50.
http://www.jays.se/products/earphones/a-jays-one-plus.html
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I use JH Audio 13 PRO with my Dinc and they sound incredible but they are $1,150 ha ha.
I use a pair of JVC Marshmallow 'buds... they're $20 at Wal-Mart, come in several different colors, and sound amazing to me. Yeah, they don't have a built in mic, no external controls, but if what you're looking for is simply music, they're one heck of a deal.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/JVC-In-Ear-Marshmallow-Black/14562427
If you need the built in mic and answer controls, the wired headset earbuds from my old BlackBerry sound decent and the answer button / mic works. $8 on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-HDW-16904-003-Blackberry-Microphone-3-5mm/dp/B002ECE8QY
Regular price $60
On sale for $15
http://www.amazon.com/GOgroove-High-Performance-Hands-free-Playback-Controller/dp/B005MZU0JY/
Thats a good deal
Bang and Olufsen Earset 3 or A8s
I work for Bang and Olufsen, and we make a killer set, for about $200. I might sound a little biased, but honestly I could care less if you chose to by ours over another brand. Why? If I sell one, I make about 5 Bucks commission. And the odds someone reading this forum is going to buy a set from me? Don't really need to answer that one. That being said, hear me out about the inside scoop:
They are made out of aluminum, and aren't the isolation type that get shoved in your ear canal. You lose a little bass, but you can walk down the street and not get jacked because you are oblivious to whats going on around you. They have great sensitivity (don't need to crank your device, which saves battery life), and the stereo imaging is amazing. The highs are clear and sharp and don't break up. They also stay on your ears very well and are great for exercising. Plus, they come with a 3 year international warranty: If you break them, you can bring them into any showroom in the world and we will swap them out on the spot (provided they don't look like you ran them over with a car) if you have proof of purchase (we will help you out with this part by contacting the store you purchased them from).
We also have sets of the Dre Beats In-Ears, Bose on-ears and in-ears (Bose stands for "Buy Other Sound Equipment"), and the Klipsch S4s in our showroom and have tested them against our own. We beat them hands down. Our customers have all agreed as well (comparing them hands-on with their own phones and ipods, not our demo tracks).
Go find a showroom, and give them a shot. Not saying their the best thing since sliced bread, but you might find them to be exactly what you are looking for.
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I work for Bang and Olufsen, and we make a killer set, for about $200. I might sound a little biased, but honestly I could care less if you chose to by ours over another brand. Why? If I sell one, I make about 5 Bucks commission. And the odds someone reading this forum is going to buy a set from me? Don't really need to answer that one. That being said, hear me out about the inside scoop:
They are made out of aluminum, and aren't the isolation type that get shoved in your ear canal. You lose a little bass, but you can walk down the street and not get jacked because you are oblivious to whats going on around you. They have great sensitivity (don't need to crank your device, which saves battery life), and the stereo imaging is amazing. The highs are clear and sharp and don't break up. They also stay on your ears very well and are great for exercising. Plus, they come with a 3 year international warranty: If you break them, you can bring them into any showroom in the world and we will swap them out on the spot (provided they don't look like you ran them over with a car) if you have proof of purchase (we will help you out with this part by contacting the store you purchased them from).
We also have sets of the Dre Beats In-Ears, Bose on-ears and in-ears (Bose stands for "Buy Other Sound Equipment"), and the Klipsch S4s in our showroom and have tested them against our own. We beat them hands down. Our customers have all agreed as well (comparing them hands-on with their own phones and ipods, not our demo tracks).
Go find a showroom, and give them a shot. Not saying their the best thing since sliced bread, but you might find them to be exactly what you are looking for.
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While I have no doubt that the B&O set is very good, I have difficulty imagining that they're as much bang for your buck as (at least) the Klipsch S4s. I agree with a lot of your points (with Bose and Beats, you're paying for the brand, not for quality) but when you say that the B&O set beats all those, it should... it costs $200. The rest are $75-100, or cheaper if you find a decent deal (not too hard). As great as the B&O set may be, 3/8 the price for at least 5/8 sound quality (S4) makes a much better deal for the average, non-audiophile, consumer who wants great sound from their device.
but also to consider; the Klipsch ones aren't as durable. You'll probably go through 3 pairs in the time you go through one set of B&Os. $200 is for the earset, which has a mic for handsfree calling. 160 gets you headphones only.
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but also to consider; the Klipsch ones aren't as durable. You'll probably go through 3 pairs in the time you go through one set of B&Os. $200 is for the earset, which has a mic for handsfree calling. 160 gets you headphones only.
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How long are you talking about going through the B&O's in? I've had the S4s for about 6 months. That's longer than I've ever had earbuds before (I'm VEEEERY hard on them), and they still look and feel brand new. By my standards, the build quality is extremely impressive.
My buddy is on an earbud hunting kick and I've been helping him out. We've tested just about everything we can find locally and so far the best sounding are the Klipsch X10I. We found them locally for $250.00 and they are worth it. I have a set of JH Audio 13 PRO's and the Klipsch X10I's sound about 50% of the JH Audio and that's really saying something. Besides the JH Audio, the Klipsch X10I's are the best sounding earbuds I've heard yet.
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-S2m-Noise-Isolating-Microphone-Single-Button/dp/B002FB7IWU
I like the S2m. Decent price too.
And BOSE also stands for "Basically...Overpriced Stereo Equipment"
No highs...No lows...Must be BOSE!!
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sony-DRBT101-BLK-Stereo-Bluetooth-Headphones-Black/13904899
I use these as headphone for music and calls. I cannot attest to any sound quality As I am somewhat hearing impaired(need aids) But these are able to play music loud enuff for me listen too. On calls I hear the voice quite well and the caller says they can hear me clearly.
I have a pair of Shure SE210s and I love them, but I can't recommend them unless you're planning on photo-shopping your receipt to make it look like they're still under the 2 year warranty when they break every 1.5 years. The audio quality is fantastic, and I like the in-ear design but they just don't hold up to what I think is normal use.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/multi-iem-review-200-iems-compared-hifiman-re272-added-10-14-11
That's all you need.
I use the $50-$60 ViSang R03 / Brainwavz M2, and couldn't be happier.
"The ViSang R03 is an incredible performer - a wholesome combination of build quality, comfort, and sound at a price well south of $100. In terms of coherency of sound signature they are up there with the best sub-$100 earphones I have heard. The combination of impactful bass, clear mids, and crisp treble give the R03 a very agreeable sound that can be enjoyed by both the audiophile and the casual listener in equal measure. And that fact alone makes them highly recommended earphones with a sound signature geared slightly towards the mainstream market compared to much of the gear talked about on head-fi. Do I personally still prefer a more analytical sound? Yes. But that does not prevent me from enjoying the R03 in the least. They are not perfect, but they are unreasonably good for what they cost."
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How long are you talking about going through the B&O's in? I've had the S4s for about 6 months. That's longer than I've ever had earbuds before (I'm VEEEERY hard on them), and they still look and feel brand new. By my standards, the build quality is extremely impressive.
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3 Years plus. They will most likely last you well past that, but if they break within 3, you get a brand new pair for free.
Klipsch
I love the new Klipsch S4A great sound quality for a low price, plus it's made specifically for android
I'm going to sound insane compared to folks advocating $50-$250 headphones.
I use OEM Palm Stereo Headset 3.5mm model#3422WW. These are in ear, not in ear canal. They sound better than $30 & $50 headphones I've tried. Oh yeah easily had on eBay $3.50.
I've owned 2 pairs of Sennheiser CX300, the I and the II and I've been terribly happy with them, until this morning when my 3-year old CX300 IIs said bye bye. One side went mute and there seems not to be anything wrong with the cable... twisting an turning it all along its length does nothing. On the way to work, this morning they worked fine, as did they every day for the past 3 years.
Now they pretty much died so I need new earbuds.
What would you recommend for replacement, under $40, cheaper the better?
I found these Panasonic earbuds for very cheap at a local store and reviews are pretty good. But the price being so low - I can get them for $8 - makes me a bit skeptical of their quality.
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I've owned 2 pairs of Sennheiser CX300, the I and the II and I've been terribly happy with them, until this morning when my 3-year old CX300 IIs said bye bye. One side went mute and there seems not to be anything wrong with the cable... twisting an turning it all along it's length does nothing. On the way to work, this morning they worked fine, as did they every day for the past 3 years.
Now they pretty much died so I need new earbuds.
What would you recommend for replacement, under $40, cheaper the better?
I found these Panasonic earbuds for very cheap at a local store and reviews are pretty good. But the price being so low - I can get them for $8 - makes me a bit skeptical of their quality.
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i do use a pair of skullcandy jib, i've bought them for about €9.99, and i use them woth the EQ set on "raise trebles" or whatever is in english (i'm from .it XD)
don't know, i'm fully satisfied, maybe you'll find a fit with them
Best way is always to test each set before buying, although it is becoming increasingly difficult even on more expensive equipment. Some more information on your preferences would help though. Open or canalphones, bright/flat/bassy, etc.
In general though, the Yuin PK2 or PK3s for open sets and i've heard nothing but good from the Brainwavz M1/M2 for canalphones as all-rounders. Do some research and if possible listen to them with your phone, the best way to find out which set you like best.
There isn't much good for less than what those cost, so probably your best bet.
Yeah, I should've provided more info.
I'm looking for in-ear buds, with those silicone/rubber things that mold to your ear canal. I love how they isolate outside sounds and I find them very comfortable. Soundwise I'd like them to be as flat as possible.
Regarding trying them out... there are very few stores here that would let me open a sealed box to test the speakers so that's why I'm asking instead of just going shopping.
Also I don't care all that much for volume/play/skip controls on the cable... actually I rather they don't have any.
I personally have the CX300-IIs so i know what you're after (they have a very nice sound for the price, comfort and durability, and slightly bassy just how i like it), though i too don't have anywhere nearby to audition so i can't help you with the specific sounds of alternatives. Don't know how much products would cost you either.
There is however alot of great information that you can find through forums like headfi and hydrogenaudio. There is one retailer in Aus that has also been alot of help for me and many i know in choosing equipment, so you can also have a look at the descriptions, recommendations and forum posts over at Headphonic. One of the most objective places on the net for headphones, though just remember it is still essentially a retailer.
IMHO the CX300-II are nothing near "flat". But if you like boomy bass, warm sound signature, but with a better sound quality, try ViSang R02.
Really cheap with great sound quality?? Philips SHE3570
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IMHO the CX300-II are nothing near "flat".
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Well, IMHO, they are.
kong said:
But if you like boomy bass, warm sound signature, but with a better sound quality, try R02.
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Thanks, but as I said previously I'm ruling out anything that colors the sound too much and "boomy bass, warm sound" is exactly that.
In this moment, I'm using 'that' panasonic earbud. It's just awesome, for this price it's the best. If I will ever buy another earbud, it's because it doesn't have a mic. For music, it is perfect. Oh, and don't forget to use Voodoo sound! I also flashed HTC's Beats audio btw...
The CX300s are definitely not flat, they do push more towards a warm, slightly boomy but not overpowering sound. Whether it is similar to the Alpha-series Brainwavz i wouldn't know.
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IMHO the CX300-II are nothing near "flat".
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Well, IMHO, they are.
kong said:
But if you like boomy bass, warm sound signature, but with a better sound quality, try ViSang R02
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Thanks, but as I said previously I'm ruling out anything that colors the sound too much and "boomy bass, warm sound" is exactly that.
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Lol nevermind, it's subjective anyway
I don't own the cx300-II, but from what I've read they aren't the best headphones for flatness. Actually, I think they are known to appeal to bass lovers.
I'd say get the "Soundmagic e30" for budget and "Hifiman RE-0" for something a bit pricier. personally, I really like the energetic sound offered by my Klipsch S4's though they are definitely not flat.
I absolutely love my Beta Brainwavz. They're pretty cheap, and the quality is good. I've had mine for over a year and some, and they've only been getting better the more I burn them in.
I use Bose IE2 and it is really good except for one thing, price. It seems to be too expensive. It sure has a quality that matches it's price but it may be too expensive for most people.
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Klipsch Promedia can be had for under $40 if you check Slickdeals, etc.
Got mine on sale from Tigerdirect a while ago for $25.
They are relatively unknown which is a shame because they are the exact same thing as the more popular and expensive, S4/S4i model. They use the same drivers.
For the price you can't do better.
If you are willing to go over the ear route, Koss Portapros are the budget cans to get.
Hope this helps.
DO Sennheiser CX 300-II supports xperia neo v ?
Hey, i really want to know, do these headphones (Sennheiser CX 300-II) supports neo v or not?
Please people help me out....
sonnysekhon said:
Klipsch Promedia can be had for under $40 if you check Slickdeals, etc.
Got mine on sale from Tigerdirect a while ago for $25.
They are relatively unknown which is a shame because they are the exact same thing as the more popular and expensive, S4/S4i model. They use the same drivers.
For the price you can't do better.
If you are willing to go over the ear route, Koss Portapros are the budget cans to get.
Hope this helps.
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I have the Klipsch s4is and personally, I love them a lot. Best ear buds ever for me
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Does anyone use or know of a good sound dock to use with our note 2?
There are plenty of options for the iPhone/ipod but android seems quite limited.
Phillips seem to have a fairly good range from budget to higher end.
Or maybe is it better to have just a speaker(s)
I am not wanting one to use as an alarm just purely for music.
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Why not use Bluetooth?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Black-Portab...Speaker-Microphone-Touch-Button-/261132234440
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Yeah, I love my bluetooth Jawbone JamBox!
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Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Both speakers look interesting, the Jambox seems to have some good reviews and is near to the top end of what i am wanting to spend.
Sound quality is a factor and i know i am not going to get state of the art with my budget nor ear splitting volume, i have my stereo for that anyway the Jambox again seems to have good reviews for sound quality the mini boombox does not have quite the same reviews although there is quite a price difference between the two.
One advantage of these as opposed to a dock is they are portable.
Any other recommendations on other speakers or docks or user views on the two items mentioned above.
Thanks
I was in Target couple days ago, and saw Bose Soundlink and BigJambox, same price, but I'm more interested in the Jambox, the demo song, it does indeed shows 3D virtual surround. Not sure if it still have 3D with non binaural recorded songs, but it's amazing. Might get that, need to save some dough first though, at$300 it's not cheap for me.
Get the Altec lansing bt speaker. It sounds great. I have tested thw othwr speakers mentioned and they cant cpmpete.
I have been looking at this Samsung unit and am very tempted. Anyone actually heard the sound quality on it?
http://m.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/home-entertainment/wireless-audio-dock/DA-E670/XU
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nm8 said:
Get the Altec lansing bt speaker. It sounds great. I have tested thw othwr speakers mentioned and they cant cpmpete.
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Thanks, do you have a link to the exact model you mention.
With the change to lightning from the Apple 30 pin, there should be a ton of discounted speakers and docks made for the older gen iOS devices. With Bluetooth to 30 pin adapters like this dockboss air : http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockBoss-air.html , you should be able to find a good solution. This is actually how I've tapped into my car stereo which has an iPod connector with my android devices. The nice side effect is that it passes the media controls as well, so the track advance/reverse can be controlled through it.
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Thanks, do you have a link to the exact model you mention.
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http://www.amazon.com/Altec-Lansing...8-2&keywords=altec+lansing+bluetooth+speakers
despite the negative reviews, I never had any problem with mine, and I have connected it to maybe 30 different phones and pda's because I bring it to work and my colleagues use it... maybe those people who gave a negative review do not know what they are doing to connect the unit....
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The Altec speaker is more on the clinical side... so it is good for listening to musical, voacls, rock, etc... it lacks the very deep bass of other speakers like the Bose or Logitech Boombox which I have owned... but it compensates for it's audio clarity... If you like bigger boomy bass, go for the logitach boombox, otherwise go for the the Altec... the Bose is not worth it IMHO.
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With the change to lightning from the Apple 30 pin, there should be a ton of discounted speakers and docks made for the older gen iOS devices. With Bluetooth to 30 pin adapters like this dockboss air : http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockBoss-air.html , you should be able to find a good solution. This is actually how I've tapped into my car stereo which has an iPod connector with my android devices. The nice side effect is that it passes the media controls as well, so the track advance/reverse can be controlled through it.
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Thanks, the bluetooth adaptors opens up a whole range of previously unavailable options.
nm8 said:
http://www.amazon.com/Altec-Lansing...8-2&keywords=altec+lansing+bluetooth+speakers
despite the negative reviews, I never had any problem with mine, and I have connected it to maybe 30 different phones and pda's because I bring it to work and my colleagues use it... maybe those people who gave a negative review do not know what they are doing to connect the unit....
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The Altec speaker is more on the clinical side... so it is good for listening to musical, voacls, rock, etc... it lacks the very deep bass of other speakers like the Bose or Logitech Boombox which I have owned... but it compensates for it's audio clarity... If you like bigger boomy bass, go for the logitach boombox, otherwise go for the the Altec... the Bose is not worth it IMHO.
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Thanks, that was the model i was looking at available at £100 on amazon uk. :good:
Decisions decisions
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With the change to lightning from the Apple 30 pin, there should be a ton of discounted speakers and docks made for the older gen iOS devices. With Bluetooth to 30 pin adapters like this dockboss air : http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockBoss-air.html , you should be able to find a good solution. This is actually how I've tapped into my car stereo which has an iPod connector with my android devices. The nice side effect is that it passes the media controls as well, so the track advance/reverse can be controlled through it.
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I wonder if this will work with my Car Stereo too ... I have a Pioneer that has a Pandora App for iCrap and I hate using Headphone to Headphone for Pandora. It kills the sound quality.
I have just received the Soundfreaq SFQ-04 Sound Kick http://www.tesco.com/direct/soundfreaq-sfq-04-sound-kick-bluetooth-wireless-speaker/554-6436.prd
I was going to go with the Altec Lansing recommended on the previous page but the price had shot up above and beyond what was our original top end price.
I cannot say what the sound is like yet as it is a Christmas present but it seems to get a lot of great reviews especially for the price.
Thanks for everyone who took the time to reply
Steelyglint said:
I have been looking at this Samsung unit and am very tempted. Anyone actually heard the sound quality on it?
http://m.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/home-entertainment/wireless-audio-dock/DA-E670/XU
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Treated myself to an early Xmas gift and picked up the Samsung unit. Easy connection to my Note and to my wife's iPhone (yes, I know it's grounds for divorce).
Sound quality is excellent. Only issue is the steep price.
.... I have to return some videotapes....
hawkwind said:
I have just received the Soundfreaq SFQ-04 Sound Kick http://www.tesco.com/direct/soundfreaq-sfq-04-sound-kick-bluetooth-wireless-speaker/554-6436.prd
I was going to go with the Altec Lansing recommended on the previous page but the price had shot up above and beyond what was our original top end price.
I cannot say what the sound is like yet as it is a Christmas present but it seems to get a lot of great reviews especially for the price.
Thanks for everyone who took the time to reply
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I have the sound stack from soundfreaq. They make a really good product from my experience.
I did a review of it here:
http://www.examiner.com/review/review-soundfreaq-sound-stack-bluetooth-speaker-dock
I have reviews coming up of specific android units from philips, iluv, and gracedigital. The grace digital dock is even note 2 specific!
Just an update on my Soundfreaq sound kick.
I am really impressed with the speaker, amazing clear sounds with no distortion, volume level is great as well.
Not for anyone who is looking for deep bass, but this little speaker is perfect for needs.
I like the usb slot at the back so i can charge my phone as it plays if i need to.
Really happy and a bargain at £74 when i bought it.
More reviews can be found here
http://www.amazon.com/product-revie...k Portable Bluetooth Speaker&showViewpoints=1
Does anyone have new Joying HU with surround digital amplifier? Has the sound quality improved?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFr...zWiloVA/videos
They just came out. I posted in your other thread. I have one coming tomorrow. It may be some time before you get any real feedback since they are new. Looks promising, but we learn not to get our hopes up too much.
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They just came out. I posted in your other thread. I have one coming tomorrow. It may be some time before you get any real feedback since they are new. Looks promising, but we learn not to get our hopes up too much.
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that's cool, I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the new unit
For reference:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073LF3GZP
Others should buy this so I have safety in numbers
I wouldn't expect greatness from an amp in units like this. Any good HUs that have optical out? That is probably the safest choice to get good sound out of these units.
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I wouldn't expect greatness from an amp in units like this. Any good HUs that have optical out? That is probably the safest choice to get good sound out of these units.
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Anyone seen an android unit with toslink? For what its worth method of transport has no relation to sound quality. They solve different needs. Transport is like a road. It can be smooth or bumpy, but has nothing to do with the car you drive over it. You can send crap over a toslink and the head unit would have to convert lower grade data to PCM.
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Anyone seen an android unit with toslink? For what its worth method of transport has no relation to sound quality. They solve different needs. Transport is like a road. It can be smooth or bumpy, but has nothing to do with the car you drive over it. You can send crap over a toslink and the head unit would have to convert lower grade data to PCM.
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Yes, you are correct but it is important to note how these units are built. Toslink removes the need for DAC which is the weak link. Basically, the unit reads digital media and sends digital signal to something else which has its own DAC. Decoding and sending digital signals in these HUs is done with off the shelf chipssets that either work or don't. It is binary. A cheap DAC adds a lot of artifacts and general noise to the signal. So, the reality is, a cheap HU that does toslink can yield good sound. A cheap HU with a DAC will not, because economics won't allow it. That is why I asked. To use your analogy, what is better, a smooth road paved with no seams and expansion joints or one that was paved piece meal with connectors and detours? Hope that makes sense.
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Yes, you are correct but it is important to note how these units are built. Toslink removes the need for DAC which is the weak link. Basically, the unit reads digital media and sends digital signal to something else which has its own DAC. Decoding and sending digital signals in these HUs is done with off the shelf chipssets that either work or don't. It is binary. A cheap DAC adds a lot of artifacts and general noise to the signal. So, the reality is, a cheap HU that does toslink can yield good sound. A cheap HU with a DAC will not, because economics won't allow it. That is why I asked. To use your analogy, what is better, a smooth road paved with no seams and expansion joints or one that was paved piece meal with connectors and detours? Hope that makes sense.
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Many head units that have toslink really only had it for the CD or DVD and didn't convert radio or aux etc. A few units exist that do the conversion, but its pretty slim. I really don't think anyone has the expectation that for 300 bucks you are getting something amazing. You probably do get something incrementally better than the basic stuff we have been seeing.
Discussing toslink on these units is definitely an armchair topic and pretty far from realistic even if logically is makes sense.
i am really considering that 10.1 inch Joying, it would be my third Joying, so I have a good method of comparison
Well if its like the previous Joying units you can expect about one in 3 units to fully function out of the box and that one to fail within 90 days. Cheap chinese low quality junk with no warranty support.
Second, it does not belong in this forum. Has NOTHING to do with android auto. Off topic.
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i am really considering that 10.1 inch Joying, it would be my third Joying, so I have a good method of comparison
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Do it! I need safety in numbers. I have a few others to compare that are still running.
I popped it open. I actually don't think the back is any sort of serious heatsink. The digital amp is screwed to it, but there is a gap. Video out is cables alongside the left rear usb. I'm not sure what the empty socket is between the mic and the video out. There is nothing identifying on the silver box.
I probably wont get to bench testing it until the weekend or next week.
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I popped it open. I actually don't think the back is any sort of serious heatsink. The digital amp is screwed to it, but there is a gap. Video out is cables alongside the left rear usb. I'm not sure what the empty socket is between the mic and the video out. There is nothing identifying on the silver box.
I probably wont get to bench testing it until the weekend or next week.
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Thanks for tearing into one of these... I've been really curious if that fancy looking back panel was actually a functional heatsink or not. Curious how you rank the sound quality and "no heat problem" this unit is supposed to be advertised for... Look forward to the rest of your review/testing!
I am very interested to see if there is a noticeable sound difference
My Joying died and I put in a Sony until I figure out my next move.
I was genuinely shocked at the sound improvement. And I always thought my Joying sounded great, but my speakers have come alive with the Sony
i got the 10 inch single din with an amp and DSP. I got it installed last night. only had a short drive to test it, but I think it sounds pretty great
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i got the 10 inch single din with an amp and DSP. I got it installed last night. only had a short drive to test it, but I think it sounds pretty great
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Did you get a model number on that? I had to have several emails with joying describing what I wanted with a single din and 10.1 screen. They told me to buy a certain one and then add 40 bucks and they would know what to send. Seemed weird. Just wonder if that's what you did also.
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Did you get a model number on that? I had to have several emails with joying describing what I wanted with a single din and 10.1 screen. They told me to buy a certain one and then add 40 bucks and they would know what to send. Seemed weird. Just wonder if that's what you did also.
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Not yet, mine was a replacement for my 8 inch that quit working. I emailed them asking for a specific model number so I can post it in my review
Joying now makes it clear on their site:
Note: JOYING car stereo with internal digital amplifier only can fit the car which without internal amplifier and external amplifier.
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I assume this is because there appears to be a lack of rear pre-outs, but I'm not totally clear. I did see that if you enable an external amp the controls are reverted to the old interface.
So I have had my new 10 inch unit for about 2 days, and it works great. *Bluetooth doesn't drop out, sounds awesome. *
today and only today, I was listening to music loudly, and I noticed it would drop out a bit. *I thought it was odd and looked at the screen, and I got this flash with yellow on top and some Chinese writing:
I did a reboot and it started working fine again
Right on, thanks for posting your experiences with this unit... I decided to buy an Xtrons 10.1 octacore unit because it was around $100 cheaper than the Joying with the digital amp... Heard a number of complaints about wireless sucking and stuff so I'm eyeing the Joying as a backup if the Xtrons unit goes bad or I discover some sort of weird issue. I gotta admit, I have not encountered any problems with it thus far so hopefully I won't be needing to swap it for the Joying, but its good to know it generally works pretty good (and sounds good) ... One note about the Xtrons unit, is yes the wireless does kinda suck if I'm trying to use my home wireless from the driveway, however its rock solid and fast when I'm using my phone as a hotspot, which is how it will be used 99% of the time, so I'm pretty stoked thats not an issue!
Anyways, thanks again for the info guys!