Hi all,
I try to search for such issue but no success.
So, quickGPS/GPS is working fine but need to d/l data from time to time. Pb is, when data are outdated and I have no way to upload new ones, my GPS won't get any fix at all. I can no longer use my GPS
Is this normal, do I need to deactive something (even if the fix takes longer) ??
Thanks for hints,
Gilles
Search for "Kaiser Tweak". If I recall correctly, there is a setting in there to fix broken QuickGPS settings that allows it to update properly.
Should then be able to get QuickGPS working leading to GPS working more efficiently...
QuickGPS updates work with no problem.
The problem is that you need "phone" connection for the update. Eg, I'm doing a trekking in the mountain, I'll never have the cell phone connection to update quickGPS data.
I need to use the GPS as standalone tools even with no phone connection
Question is : Can the Kaiser's GPS work if quickGPS data are outdated ? how ?
GPS works fine as a stand alone unit. It can take longer time to get your position when you use GPS without the fast GPS but it still works.
Yep I'm sure it will work if quickGPS is not installed. In my case quick GPS is installed, and when it's up to date I get the fix in few sec.
When it's not, I've waited more than 5mn with no results ... then I started to download quickGPS data and hop fix in few sec.
For me it's like that if quickGPS is not up to date it disables the GPS. Am I wrong ?
Is there a way to temporarly disable quickGPS ? at least I would get a fix even if it takes longers.
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heelp... what should I do...
Couple days ago TomTom trial and Google Map found gps device nicely and everything seems to be ok. However now when I am trying to start these sw:s they both are saying that they can't find gps device. What should I do about this?
When you start the apps, does the orange light on the right of the internal speaker start flashing?
If it does, then the GPS is actually starting but not getting a fix probably.
If it doesn't then have you mucked around with your "external gps settings" which should be left set to com4 and 4800
Or try this: http://www.expansys.nl/ft.aspx?k=100176
Thx for your answers...
when I tried start tomtom it will find gps-receiver & satellites and if immediatly after that I start Google Map sw it find gps also...
It seems that this happens because of delaying to find satellites... and timelimit at GM is too short... any way solve that problem because it is stupid that I have to start every time tomtom first
which GM version are you using? maybe you should try to download the latest version. The version 1.2.0.18 seems to take a longer time before it times out.
I've downloaded version 1.2.0.18 from the webpage http://www.google.com/gmm/index.html.
what version you suggested? And if that is different, where I could get it?
Or is it possible to use some light software first lock satellites and then start GM? if this is possible what "locking sw:s" you suggest?
Its a well known problem that Google Maps times out before getting a fix on a "cold start" of the GPS.
I am guessing that if enough people let them know, they will either work out how to get it to respond quicker or to increase the time out.
I've downloaded sw called TGPS which I use locked satellites... Now it seems that this is working well...
thx anyway to all.
unwired4 said:
Its a well known problem that Google Maps times out before getting a fix on a "cold start" of the GPS.
I am guessing that if enough people let them know, they will either work out how to get it to respond quicker or to increase the time out.
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I had to return my phone for warranty repair but I think the latest version of GMM fixes the timeout problem. Last night I downloaded it to a friend's new ATT Tilt. The GPS took about 1.5min to get a fix and GMM didn't show any errors.
Where I can get this TPGS software???
Sorry not mentioned that before...
http://www.turboirc.com/ppc/
Thanks for the info
I downloaded the software, seems working but google maps is not working at all. What tricks have you done to make google maps work???
Zero, nada....
Just first locking gps with TGPS and then (TGPS background) I start GM... that's it.
btw. in the GM I am using automatic configuration for GPS.
If you setup everything correctly, sometimes its the location where you are at. Whenever I'm in my car, it always works. When I'm in a building, chances are, it doesn't work, even by a window.
So don't think its the phone. Test it outside first and then see if it really is the phone.
There is no need to download additional software to kickstart the Kaiser gps. Open the Camera app and switch to GPS Photo mode. Wait for a fix and then exit and start up Google Maps.
I tested the GPS outside and works fine with TOMTOM and TPGS but still google maps give me errors. When I start TPGS The software gets a signal really fast.
But when I switch to google maps I got ( Error: ConnectError [183]) and I still running TPGS in the background...
I'm using google maps version: 1.2.0.17
And another thing: This GPS photo where I can get it?? Because I think I dont have it.... my kaiser I bought it in Denmark...
Thanks for the help you people rock....
GPS Photo is enabled by a registry change -- use your favorite registry editor to set HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P9\Enable to the DWORD value 1. It'll then show up as a camera mode when you click the left/right arrows in the upper left corner of the camera display.
Thanks waygeek it worked....
Lets see if this google maps thing works with GPS photo
By the way I want to check out the version of google maps that you guys have??
I'm using google maps version: 1.2.0.17
Once again thank you all...
No luck with GPS photo our TGPS with Google maps.
The GPS is working perfectly
thomassster : You said that when you drive in your car Google maps works..
Do you use GPRS or 3G to connect to google maps and after that you use the GPS??? or you just use the GPS??
Because What I been experienced is if I'm outside then I use my GPRS connection then the GPS and google maps tell me Where I'm.. But If I dont use any connection and switch to the GPS, google maps die...
Thanks for the help
Forgive my inability to find a solution in search (at least I made the effort).
Stock Tilt
Stock AT&T ROM
Registered TomTom Nav6
GPS worked flawlessly for the past months.......matter of fact, the entire device has been flawless until now.
Tonight when I pulled the phone from my case, I got a pop-up explaining that QuickGPS had expired (or some such silly blue screen). All I could do is close it (I've never launched QuickGPS since I've owned the device and have no idea how it could have activated).
Best I can tell, my receivers are now disabled.
Settings in TomTom still show:
other GPS receiver
baud 4800
comm4
Suggestions?
try opening quickgps ( u'll find under programs") and click download and download the data..then run tomtom again and see if u get a fix
Yeah download the data from QuickGPS. It takes an insane amount of time to require a fix with any program without a sattelite map in my experience.
You might have never noticed it because it downloads automatically when you connect to ActiveSync or other data networks if enabled.
I'm pretty sure that's your problem. A current sattelite map (I don't really know what it's called) lasts for 7 days.
Thanks for the tips.
What seems to have happened was that QuickGPS must have been activated last week at some point (no clue exactly just *how* that occured). The message I got last night was that it had "expired" (I see now that each download lasts for a week then expires).
Nothing I tried would get TomTom receiving again. After reading further threads, I noticed that we should NEVER TOUCH EXTERNAL GPS SETTINGS (which of course I had already done at that point). I figured I was facing a hard reset.
But my solution came as passively as the problem did. In THIS POST "ach2" suggests running GPSTest (included in the thread) after a hard reset.
I figured, wtf....why not give it a try before I hard reset? I let GPSTest run for about 30 minutes until it had acquired a HDOP score....minimized it....launched TomTom....and low-and-behold all is working normally again.
I've since disemboweled QuickGPS so as to never bother me or TomTom again.
Thanks for the suggestions and thanks ach2 wherever you are.
Actually QuickGPS is something you want to use. It downloads the Sat. info & saves your device major time in aquiring the sat tracks.
I use Quick GPS all the time, even if it hasn't expired.
I finally upgraded to the long anticipated windows 6.1 rom for tilt. And now im having issues with my gps. I have tomtom6 and gps today for faster identifying my position. But since I upgraded, now when I turn on gps today and even tomtom it cant get my position anymore. When I checked tomtom satellite finder, it found some satellites but it never turned blue when the gps is locked. I need help to get my gps working again. Any help would be great.
I had this problem too after i upgraded to 6.1. Some people suggested to install GPS Test. It's a very simple but effective tool for acquiring a GPS fix. Whenever im not getting a fix i start this tool and normally it gets me a fix within 1 - 2 minutes. After this, as long as you dont soft reset your device, all your GPS programs should get a fix immediately.
http://pda.wareseeker.com/Travel/gps-test-1.04.zip/321576
Thanks! ill give it a try and ill update ASAP
Unfortenatly, aGPS is not activated by default. Search for the program called Advanced Cofiguration, and install that. There you can activate aGPS - and after that, you will normally get a gps link within 5-10 seconds...
i checked and gps is enabled
Noob007 said:
Unfortenatly, aGPS is not activated by default. Search for the program called Advanced Cofiguration, and install that. There you can activate aGPS - and after that, you will normally get a gps link within 5-10 seconds...
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yeah ... only if AGPS ... works( .... I don't know what to say about this but for some kaisers and roms this is a complete mistery.
Does anybody know where the quickGPS data is saved on the touch diamond as I think its causing problems with my gps maintaining a fix?
The problem was that the quickGPS problem updated via ActiveSync at my home but the next time I tried to use tomtom I was away from my home area, tomtom obtained a fix very quickly but only kept it for about 5 seconds, then continued to lock/loss for about 5 seconds everytime. A soft reset didn't solve the problem and the only way the maintain a fix was to close tomtom and then update quickGPS again, this obtained an instant steady fix.
My concerns are that's fine iif I'm in the UK because my data is free but when I use it abroad it may become an expensive solution if I have to keep using quickGPS to get and maintain a signal.
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Does anybody know where the quickGPS data is saved on the touch diamond as I think its causing problems with my gps maintaining a fix?
The problem was that the quickGPS problem updated via ActiveSync at my home but the next time I tried to use tomtom I was away from my home area, tomtom obtained a fix very quickly but only kept it for about 5 seconds, then continued to lock/loss for about 5 seconds everytime. A soft reset didn't solve the problem and the only way the maintain a fix was to close tomtom and then update quickGPS again, this obtained an instant steady fix.
My concerns are that's fine iif I'm in the UK because my data is free but when I use it abroad it may become an expensive solution if I have to keep using quickGPS to get and maintain a signal.
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Main Memory\Temp
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Main Memory\Temp
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Whats the file called?
there is a tool for doing this... pretty sure its a HTC prog too...
"HTC GPS" something...
The issue you are having I think is related to having A-GPS activated
Check if this is so (Schaps Advance Config or Diamond Tweaks) and then deactivate same, re-boot, issue probably solved
Xperia X1 freeze. After 6 months I have problem with my xperia and gps. When I try to use internal GPS (whenever software), display freeze and I have to replace batery. I have tryied to flash another ROM, it works few hours and now I have same problem. Any ideas?
Hi,ok let´s see, like you ive had the same problem, just when i was using any gps navigator the phone suddendly stopped and that was sucking me a lot so after that i started to think what could be the problem, and at the end after a lot of time i found where was the problem and what was the solution. To find the solution i decided to hard reset the new rom with which all my gps problems started, and following the instalation steps of all programs and configurations i found the problem and this was related with the quick gps, before using this program to upgrade my gps location my mobile was runing tomtom and others without freezing, but after upgrade the gps location with the quick gps my mobile started to freeze. So this is the problem, just do this try to hard-reset and install eveything but dont, i repeat dont !!use the quick gps or this will freeze your phone again. Following this step your phone will run the gps navigators without the freeze problem
Then men after this try to do this and let me know (PLEAE) if your problem still remain ok? see u and hope you can solve this problem like me.
I too have just started having GPS problems as listed above!
The problem seems to be Quickgps...as soon as u run the quickgps update(which you may have on autodownload) Tomtom crashes and you have to reboot the phone...
I have reinstalled a different rom since and still have the same problem!
i dont know if there is a cache for this program that can be cleared or something other than reflashing the device
As the days go on and the 7 day update starts running out im guessing more people will start having the same problems!mine happened 28/10/09 evening time!
Same problem: freezing XPERIA when using GPS!
Yesterday I connected my X1 to the PC and got the latest Quick GPS update. Today I'll need to use my gps for a trip... Wanted to prepare the navigator and got the same problem like you guys.
Probably something wrong with the last update since I have not installed anything nor updated the firmware.
Is there any way to get any older version of the quick gps? Before after each 7 days period, it was possible still to use the GPS. Even though it was much slower but in the end it always works before updating... Will a hard reset give me an old version of Quick GPS?
This is so annoying at this moment. Hope somebody find a solution fast.
Hi all,
Got the very same problem yesterday.
I tought the GPS HW had gone. I have uninstalled the Route 66 SW, but there are some files that still lay in the phone.
Then re-install everything from scracth, but problem remains. Now i know i a GPS. Could be worse if was a HW problem in the phone.
Possible solution
Hi
I have maybe same problem with other phone (HTC Rose). If any application try to connect to GPS, phone freezes. After Hard Reset it was OK, but only until I use QuickGPS. Then it again freeze whole mobile after use GPS application.
My temporary solution:
1.
Erase QuickGPS data. Simply delete 2 files: Temp\xtra.bin and Windows\xtra.bin
2.
Soft Reset phone.
Try it, and let me know.
working so far...
Thank you motaba.
I did what you proposed and erased the files. It worked actually.
I have been running my gps now for some minutes and it did not freeze. It found the signal and started to navigate without freezing.
So at first glance it seems to work. I will try it further and tell you all about further information.
but how can the gps work so fast and well without these quickgps files? are they totally redundant?
Greetings
Thanks a lot motaba.
Works for me as well.
As yes, it got the location pretty fast without the "A GPS mambojambo"
I was gettin 8-9 statelites.
P.S: Anyone can tell me were to get TomTom 7 for X1 ? Route 66 is pretty anoying some times....
X1 GPS
After deleting the fails xtra.bin my gps start to work for now, but I want to ask do I have to use quickGPS update if I update the gps from there the problem will be start again
Yes delete xtra.bin helps!!!
Does anyone has older version of quick gps. I still want to use quick gps, becasus waiting for gps to fix is annoying. thanks
Hi all,
After deleting the xtra files and confirm that works i went out, and during the driving i used the GPS.
Even went going out of the car and switching GPS programm off, as soon as i got back into the car and switch programm on, the GPS location came so quick that was unbeleivable. Only time to switch it on , put it into the older start the car and when i look into it, was already navigating.
So my advice is FORGET about Quick GPS.
I think ESA as lunched a new GPS satellite for the European system, I wonder if has anything to do with with it. ??? Anyway it's great !!!
No, ESA satellites are not primary GPS satellites. They provide WAAS/EGNOS correction info only. AFAIK Xperia does not support correction, so it does not work with these satellites at all.
The problem could be with QuickGPS data. Many users started to have the problem at the same time. It seems xperia uses QuickGPS if they are available. So any corruption on QuickGPS side makes GPS unusable.
Sometimes just forced QuickGPS reload helps .. but sometimes not, and that's when the trick with xtra.bin comes handy.
Thank you all in this awesome forum. Deleting the xtra.bin files solved the problem for me. Even the time to log the gps position seems not really to be slower in my case
Hi Dr Sid
Thanks for the explanation.
My point was that the xtra.bin removal works, and after i did that the GPS position was found very very quickly without starting Quick GPS.
I wonder why because, before it would take 10 minutes or more, if quick GPS was not used.
Summer time change?
Hi
I was wondering what is wrong with xtra.bin. It is downloaded from web server xtra1.gpsonextra.net or simmilar.
In my country (Slovakia) at 24-25.10. there was time change from summer time CEST (GMT+2) to CET (GMT+1). Maybe it is some dependance between change of time and GPS problem.
Wiki says same time change is all over Europe.
All of you with same problem, please check registry, what servers are set in QuickGPS. My phone is HTC, so registry are there:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS\0\0]
"port"=dword:00000050
"IP"="xtra1.gpsonextra.net"
THANKYOU SO MUCH!!
This has been driving me crazy!! I have only just learned to put ROM's on my phone and this is when the problems started, so I suspected the ROM's was causing the problem.
Deleted the 2 files and now my GPS works perfectly.
Excellent fix, saved me so much time.
THANKS THANKS THANKS !!!!!!
Works for me too (Buenos Aires - Argentina).
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I was wondering what is wrong with xtra.bin. It is downloaded from web server xtra1.gpsonextra.net or simmilar.
In my country (Slovakia) at 24-25.10. there was time change from summer time CEST (GMT+2) to CET (GMT+1). Maybe it is some dependance between change of time and GPS problem.
Wiki says same time change is all over Europe.
All of you with same problem, please check registry, what servers are set in QuickGPS. My phone is HTC, so registry are there:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS\0\0]
"port"=dword:00000050
"IP"="xtra1.gpsonextra.net"
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It's very probable that this is the problem, since I have it since a few days also. But it's strange, last time change I had no problems with it.
hehe, a bit slow to find this thread
yep the quickgps data is corrupt somehow.
took me a lot of reboots to find this out.
A-GPS still works just try running google maps with GPS turned OFF!! you get a rough idea of where your are.
QuickGPS gives a weeks calcutions of predicted GPS satalite locations which can then be used to reduce the cold-boot gps startup time.
If you live near the coast at all, your GPS chip will also pickup the land based stations that broadcast static information which helps in the accuacy of location.
It is quite possible to live without QuickGPS, it just makes the startup time anything upto 2 minutes.
However, with quickgps being used for so many phones, it should not be too long before its all fixed again
It's just pity it can't be disabled by some normal means. If you delete the file, QuickGPS will load it back next week.
Also it could try to compare data from the file with data from the satellite. If different satellites are visible than those which should be visible based on the file, than GPS could realize something is wrong. It does not.