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QuickGPS outdated no more fix

Hi all,
I try to search for such issue but no success.
So, quickGPS/GPS is working fine but need to d/l data from time to time. Pb is, when data are outdated and I have no way to upload new ones, my GPS won't get any fix at all. I can no longer use my GPS
Is this normal, do I need to deactive something (even if the fix takes longer) ??
Thanks for hints,
Gilles

Search for "Kaiser Tweak". If I recall correctly, there is a setting in there to fix broken QuickGPS settings that allows it to update properly.
Should then be able to get QuickGPS working leading to GPS working more efficiently...

QuickGPS updates work with no problem.
The problem is that you need "phone" connection for the update. Eg, I'm doing a trekking in the mountain, I'll never have the cell phone connection to update quickGPS data.
I need to use the GPS as standalone tools even with no phone connection
Question is : Can the Kaiser's GPS work if quickGPS data are outdated ? how ?

GPS works fine as a stand alone unit. It can take longer time to get your position when you use GPS without the fast GPS but it still works.

Yep I'm sure it will work if quickGPS is not installed. In my case quick GPS is installed, and when it's up to date I get the fix in few sec.
When it's not, I've waited more than 5mn with no results ... then I started to download quickGPS data and hop fix in few sec.
For me it's like that if quickGPS is not up to date it disables the GPS. Am I wrong ?
Is there a way to temporarly disable quickGPS ? at least I would get a fix even if it takes longers.

[SOLVED] GPS has stopped working - wtf is going on...?

Over the last few days I have noticed that my GPS is not really working anymore. I'm not sure if this is a result of some software I've loaded or whatever, but I've noticed a few people saying that they are no longer locking onto satellites and noone is really sure what they've done - although there is a thread about the new Clove extended battery and many have mentioned that it stops the GPS from working.
I'd like to get everyone who is having problems to post here please so we can try and work out what the cause is. Some have speculated that it could be the radio but I don't think it is, I've flashed every single radio available with no change...
When I first got my diamond, I was IMPRESSED at the speed and accuracy of the GPS. I would get locks in around 10-15 seconds and using TomTom 7 I found it to be extremely accurate with regards to my position on the map.
Now it SUCKS. The other day I drove and it took 18 minutes to get a fix. When it finally did I estimate it was between 50m - 100m inaccurate. Some kind of lag is going on.
As of the last two days, I cant even seem to track ANY satellites. Since then, like I mentioned I have tried every radio and still the situation remains bad.
- I'm running a cooked ROM based on the 1.93.xx.x. (Elite 3.0)
- Current radio is .11 which seems to work well for my push email. (.05 worked well too) Other than that over the last couple of days its just been push email, a few texts and calls and really nothing else special I'm doing with the device.
Can anyone having the same problems please post here with your ROM version and let us know what your experiences are.
Thanks.

I have the same problem
Rom 1.93 - swift.
radio .05

I recently bought 'htc diamond'.
I have a doubt. GPS service is for 'FREE' or we have to pay?
My phone says 'GPS download valid: 4 days. It means i can download GPS for free until another 4 days? kIndly let me know I am a newbie.
thank you in advance
Sony

sonyuk143 said:
I recently bought 'htc diamond'.
I have a doubt. GPS service is for 'FREE' or we have to pay?
My phone says 'GPS download valid: 4 days. It means i can download GPS for free until another 4 days? kIndly let me know I am a newbie.
thank you in advance
Sony
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No.. Its just the GPS data thats used by the gps to get a quicker lock on the satelites.. Which then only saves you time.. It does not cost you anything besides the trafik it uses to update the data..

sonyuk143 said:
I recently bought 'htc diamond'.
I have a doubt. GPS service is for 'FREE' or we have to pay?
My phone says 'GPS download valid: 4 days. It means i can download GPS for free until another 4 days? kIndly let me know I am a newbie.
thank you in advance
Sony
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gps is for free, the "4 days" corresponds to the time which your device
has the almanach data for faster satellite lock in it's memory. after this time
quickgps will download the alamanach data for the next 7 days, and so on...
if you don't use this feature you still can use gps, but obtaining a fix will
take you a longer time!
regards,
markus

Please look at my post at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408560
I have noticed that it is also dependent on the Rom. I am into flashing different roms and have seen different behaviour of Gps with each rom.
But HARD reset is a must after each flash.
Let me know your findings.

Got my GPS working in TomTom..
Steps i took:
1: change in PPC the gps port to COM6 - So still at Baud 4800
2: TomTom - Gps configure - "Other NMEA GPS reciver" - Baud 4800 - "COM6"
3: Closed TomTom
4: changed in PPC the GPS port back to "COM4" - still baud 4800
5: TomTom - Gps configure - "Build in gps"
And done.

I have this problem- the GPS seems to get worse and worse after a hard reset or rom upgrade to the point where it won't lock on at all.
I have noticed that in TT7 a number of satellites are being found (in the gps menu)but they are greyed out. Despite this it just won't lock on however long i leave it.

I notized that I was sometimes unable to track any satellites because I swiched on "A-GPS" in the registry with some kind of editor. After switching it off the problem was gone.
Greetz

Yes, Advanced Config destroy your GPS if you use it to turn on A-GPS.
Try reflashing the Radio with the same build as you are using already. It resets the GPS and did the trick for me.

How can you turn on A-GPS in the registry? Which key is it?
I have the same problems: when I use the GPS, it finds some satellites and not, and back it finds them, and not. When I use tomtom 6, the screen turns grey and colored every 5 sec., because it finds the satellites and not.
Sometimes it works good, but mostly not.
Can somebody help!!!
ROM: 1.35.404.4 NLD
Rom date: 05/30/08
Radio: 0.93.25.NS26
Protocolversion: 52.26.25.09H

jonnytheponny said:
How can you turn on A-GPS in the registry? Which key is it?
I have the same problems: when I use the GPS, it finds some satellites and not, and back it finds them, and not. When I use tomtom 6, the screen turns grey and colored every 5 sec., because it finds the satellites and not.
Sometimes it works good, but mostly not.
Can somebody help!!!
ROM: 1.35.404.4 NLD
Rom date: 05/30/08
Radio: 0.93.25.NS26
Protocolversion: 52.26.25.09H
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There is a little tool which is called "HTC GPS TOOL(S)", dont remember the exact name.. there you can search for satelites using the "cold start" option.. when some satelites are found, then push the "Nav. Init." buttion", dont close the program, just start TomTom and se if it did lock? .. Some reported this method working..

ostendk said:
Got my GPS working in TomTom..
Steps i took:
1: change in PPC the gps port to COM6 - So still at Baud 4800
2: TomTom - Gps configure - "Other NMEA GPS reciver" - Baud 4800 - "COM6"
3: Closed TomTom
4: changed in PPC the GPS port back to "COM4" - still baud 4800
5: TomTom - Gps configure - "Build in gps"
And done.
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I did things a little differently to yourself, but certainly your general method has solved the problem!
Firstly, and I don't know if this is a result of the radio version I'm running but I only have COM4 and COM7. Running radio .11
Secondly, within TomTom I simply configured the GPS, I changed to other NMEA receiver, selected COM4, and Baud 4800, and then within about 10 seconds, I had a lock. This is after days of not getting a lock at all.
Restarted TomTom, switched back to 'Internal GPS Receiver' and almost instantly locked again.
Problem solved!
I had done many ROM updates and not noticed this effect, I believe now thinking back this must have been a direct result of updating the radio only from version .03 to .05
I will update the thread title.

salada2k said:
I did things a little differently to yourself, but certainly your general method has solved the problem!
Firstly, and I don't know if this is a result of the radio version I'm running but I only have COM4 and COM7. Running radio .11
Secondly, within TomTom I simply configured the GPS, I changed to other NMEA receiver, selected COM4, and Baud 4800, and then within about 10 seconds, I had a lock. This is after days of not getting a lock at all.
Restarted TomTom, switched back to 'Internal GPS Receiver' and almost instantly locked again.
Problem solved!
I had done many ROM updates and not noticed this effect, I believe now thinking back this must have been a direct result of updating the radio only from version .03 to .05
I will update the thread title.
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I did actually update to the .05 radio, which after i had the satelite lock problem.. but haven't had i since i did that little com-port exchange

Hi,
After an hard reset un my Diamond and after instalall the .net framwork 3.5 my gps dont work anymore. When i turn it on connects the gprs and stay lots of minutes finding the sattelites.
Before the hard reste i have the tomtom working perfectely and never my htc connects the gprs for noting.
Can anyone help me please.
Regards,

Diamond GPS Issues

Recently I updated to the SwiftBL 7.0 Full 16PP. As I start TomTom 7.450 I says it has a gps device and then it says it has lost is gps signal.
After 15 seconds it updates it's gps location and tells me again it has lost it's gps location.
Then I close TomTom and start QuickGPS and update it (it is still valid for 6 days and more). After this update there is no problem with Tomtom anymore.
This updating I have to do every time I want to use Tomtom.
I'm just sitting in the car and not in the bathroom, so the gps is not the problem. I'm having this problem for a week now.
Does somebody else have this problem too? Is there a solution?

Mickbravo said:
Recently I updated to the SwiftBL 7.0 Full 16PP. As I start TomTom 7.450 I says it has a gps device and then it says it has lost is gps signal.
After 15 seconds it updates it's gps location and tells me again it has lost it's gps location.
Then I close TomTom and start QuickGPS and update it (it is still valid for 6 days and more). After this update there is no problem with Tomtom anymore.
This updating I have to do every time I want to use Tomtom.
I'm just sitting in the car and not in the bathroom, so the gps is not the problem. I'm having this problem for a week now.
Does somebody else have this problem too? Is there a solution?
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Try holding it up next to the window or use an in-car cradle. This has happened to me when I hold it next to my lap in the car I cant even get a fix. When I hold it next to the window I get a highly accurate fix.

I have a cradle stuck on the window. Before (for 3 months) I did not have a problem.
Or my hardware is braking down or there might be a issue with the ROM. Also f*ckup on my part is possible ofcourse.
But I wanted to know if I was the only one that had this problem. Until now I think I am.

i have gps problem too but i think using htc tools solve it for me so far...use the clear memory option together with nav init and wait for mode 2d fix.Try tis to see if its work?

Please mention which radio version your are using. Please update your radio to Radio v1.00.25.07. This is the best version for the GPS

Skele said:
Please mention which radio version your are using. Please update your radio to Radio v1.00.25.07. This is the best version for the GPS
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im on .08....Hmm....is .07 really the best for gps?i was using tat before tis...

ninja_pimp said:
im on .08....Hmm....is .07 really the best for gps?i was using tat before tis...
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I too used .08 before. I never got a fix. It detects all the sat's but won't get a fix. Then I downgraded to .07 & voila.
How was the GPS when u had used .07?

Skele said:
I too used .08 before. I never got a fix. It detects all the sat's but won't get a fix. Then I downgraded to .07 & voila.
How was the GPS when u had used .07?
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bro u gotta clear ur gps memory when u change radio if not it wun get a fix

Skele said:
I too used .08 before. I never got a fix. It detects all the sat's but won't get a fix. Then I downgraded to .07 & voila.
How was the GPS when u had used .07?
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i find .08 better but i still testing it now

Mickbravo said:
As I start TomTom 7.450 I says it has a gps device and then it says it has lost is gps signal.
After 15 seconds it updates it's gps location and tells me again it has lost it's gps location.
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I have the same problem.
My solution : soft-reset my device.
I'll try another solution : disable the A-GPS.
If anybody has another solution...
(I don't want to change my radio because of the warranty)

A-GPS
I had that same problem with iGO. Disabling A-GPS did the trick.

Likewise with Tomtom. A-GPS is the guilty party.

Having the same problem in Igo 8. The problem is that the program looses the GPS in 5-15 seconds all the time. Igo sais that it is loosing not the signal but it losses the GPS module. The only cure i found is a hard reset or going into flight mode. In flight mode the GPS works perfectly. Tested on 2 Diamonds. Any suggestions except flashing the radio??

Marchell said:
Having the same problem in Igo 8. The problem is that the program looses the GPS in 5-15 seconds all the time. Igo sais that it is loosing not the signal but it losses the GPS module. The only cure i found is a hard reset or going into flight mode. In flight mode the GPS works perfectly. Tested on 2 Diamonds. Any suggestions except flashing the radio??
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100% A-GPS thing
Disable it whit Advance Config

Thats weird I got my XDA Ignito yesterday, put tomtom 7.450, in advance config it had a-gps disabled, but TomTom would not pick up anything.
I thought I try to enable it and it suddenly started working and it was working indoors too.
Thanks for all the info.

WhiteCell said:
100% A-GPS thing
Disable it whit Advance Config
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thanks a lot, i`ll try.

Yes that did the trick. I did put an other ROM on my Diamond so I fixed it by accident but now I know the reason. Thanks.

i cant get a fix on .08, reverting back to .05 or i will try .07

WhiteCell said:
100% A-GPS thing
Disable it whit Advance Config
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Yes! Exactly! I have seen same problem as topic starter. Also If I check "GPS status" by TomTom menu, it always lost and found GPS device every 5-10 sec. Only one think helps - start Google maps app, enable GPS, then Google map quickly found satellite I start TomTom and TomTom work fine till closing.
After disabling A-Gps, now TomTom work perfectly.

How to Test Xperia GPS?

Hi,
I bought my Xperia 1 day ago, it's really good device. But I'm having some problems with GPS. Google maps starts to scanning for satellites for ages and never stops. I also tried the "Chartcross Gps Test" program and it finds the gps but it's always on "GPS Starting up" status.
Does anybody nows how to test it ? Or if there is something that i have to enable first? (all the configs are default - like in a hard reset)

It should work straight out the box. Try the quick GPS download in the Programs>tools folder. Downloads the locations of the satalites for the next week to the phone. Since using this, tomtom7 can find my loction in seconds (literrally)

Have you been trying it inside a building? In that case it won't work. I had the same thing with the GPS. In a building there is no connection to satelites, works perfectly though outside and from within a car.

Tomorrow I try google maps.
However I use tomtom. Befor all download effimeral with quick gps.
First of Xperia I have a Polaris. Xperia gps is much better than polaris. And polaris has a very good gps....

Tomtom7
Where did u get the Tomtom7 software for the xperia. A friend of my using his tomtom device and it works really fine! So on my X1 it would be really great if i can use it too!

I don't rememder now, but you can use Diamond tt7. It work fine.

ah thank you! but i can't find the file. could you post me the link for download pls

To test GPS use GPS Test from ChartCross. It's a great, free utility.
http://www.chartcross.co.uk/products/WM00002_details.asp

thank you! ....

Now it's working fine. I have to test it with tomtom later, but with google maps is Ok now. I followed buckle247 and Dryw Filtiarn tips. Now it finds the satellites very quick.
Just one question, google maps requires internet connection and how about TomTom?

One thing that i noticed is that the GPS sometimes doesn't "turn on", because either Chartcross or GoogleMaps can't find the GPS device, however if i turn off and turn on Xperia it finds. Is it normal?

kotarou TomTom doesn't need to run over GPRS as the maps are all stored on the Memory Card, however if you subscribe to traffic data then that will need a GPRS connection.
Also every so often I get the "No GPS Device" sometimes just leaving the phone for a minute makes it appear, other times a soft reset.

Cannot install GpsTest
Hi, I tried to install GpsTest on Windows Vista, but it doesn't work, since GpsTest installer requires ActiveSync. But Activesync refuses to install on Windows Vista, because there is another SmartPhone software.
Does anyone know another versione of GpsTest, compatible with Vista, or a version installable directly on the X1?
Thanx!

kotarou said:
Hi,
I bought my Xperia 1 day ago, it's really good device. But I'm having some problems with GPS. Google maps starts to scanning for satellites for ages and never stops. I also tried the "Chartcross Gps Test" program and it finds the gps but it's always on "GPS Starting up" status.
Does anybody nows how to test it ? Or if there is something that i have to enable first? (all the configs are default - like in a hard reset)
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Found a fix
If your 3G data is switched off, then you won't be charged for anything. GPS won't charge you as it is tracking signals from satellites, much like a Sat Nav.

AT&T Tilt GPS

iGo is not working, what should I do? It can get where i am.

edruig said:
iGo is not working, what should I do? It can get where i am.
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If it knows where you are then it is working. Not sure what the problem is. I use TomTom with no problems but I know that many use iGo.

Chances are your gps settings are incorrect. Especially if you just flashed a new ROM.
Look for a program called GPSTest. Install it and run it on your phone. It'll automatically setup your dps device. Then start up iGo and go into the GPS settings and set it to the same settings, which for me is port 4 baud 9600. Then it should say GPS detected on top.
You may still not get a signal, but that's because it takes a while for the gps on the kaiser to get going for the first time. Let it run for 5+ minutes and eventually you'll catch a signal.

Thank you very much it helped me