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any updates on timing, carriers?
just a hunch...
I got a bad feeling that the US versions of the Diamond and Touch Pro (Raphael) will both be CDMA. My reasoning?
1) early reports were rumored that they would arrive on Sprint
2) the lack of quadband GSM in the current iterations
3) iphone 3g. Think all the hotness will be ATT exclusive? Sprint or VZW would be smart to secure the diamond/raphael to compete with ATT in this arena.
I think that HTC left US GSM/3G bands out on purpose to protect a possible exclusivity agreement with either Sprint or VZW. I mean it wouldn't cost them anything to make these phones Quadband and for close to $800 USD you would expect every feature possible to be packed in there. Of course I have no proof, it's just purely speculation & opinion.
Here's to hoping we get an HTC or ATT branded version with Quadband radio and US 3G... Because I'd rather jump off a bridge than switch to one of the CDMA carriers, not even for these phones.
I think they'll have them for triband GSM for US. It say so on htcshop.com
I am intested in purchasing an unlocked Diamond that I can use on the T-Mobile USA network with my existing SIM card. I'm perfectly happy with EDGE speeds as I don't really use the PDA that much for work. (I use a Verizon 3G wireless card for my work on a laptop.) Plus I'm happy paying $19/month for EDGE compared to 60/month. I'm hoping to enable the 850MHz with the new ROM.
Do you recommend I wait for the GSM 3G US version of the Diamond to arrive? How long of a wait do you think?
If I decide to just get the EDGE only Diamond what is the best price and who would you recommend I purchase it from?
Thanks!
I'm too waiting for T-Mobile USA 3G to be available. It's very unlikely the Diamond will be on TMo USA in the next few months. (But then what do I know?) IFAIK, so far I the only T-Mo USA 3G phone leaked out is HTC Kaiser - http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=537
I bought my Diamond from this guy last week - http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TOUCH-DIAMO...RKS-WITH-AT-T_W0QQitemZ140254188917QQihZ004QQ - it already comes 850 enabled by HTC.
I love the Diamond so far! There is occasional sound issue (I had it twice in the week I have the phone) but it's not a big deal for me compared to what I get with the phone.
2nd, you can buy them with 850mhz enabled (meaning everything works with T-Mobile but 3G) or you can flash it yourself easily. If you're okay with EDGE, look for any Diamond that's Quad-Band and you'll get everything you want.
i have had my quad band diamond for 2 days. Works great on T-Mobile. DOn't currently have 3G on t-mobile AFAIK here anyway. Switched from the Kaise which was LAME and TOO BIG
Just ordered mine tonight. Thanks for the feedback!
Actually, I just thought of something... If your area is a 3G zone with T-mobile (nowhere but LV yet I think), you'll get 3G as long as it's on the 2100mhz band and not the 1700mhz they also use. The Diamond has a 900/2100mhz UMTS band capability, so half of T-Mobile's 3G will work.
Hi, i wanted to find out from you UK fellows or anyone with knowledge if i was to order the LG Optimus 2x from expansys seing that it will be available on 3/30/2011, will it work on USA T-Mobile carrier. I looked at LG UK's site and it has the T-Mobile (1700/2100) band. Am i to assume this will give me USA T-Mobile 3g/4g network?
BTW, how much am i looking at for total cost in Dollars. The last time i used the conversion it was over $700.00
I really don't know when T-mobile is going to carry this phone and they are not saying anything.
Thanks.
I'm sorry but that simply isn't possible at the moment. You see, T-Mobile USA uses AWS Bands 1700/2100. AWS is a technology that is only used in North America and is different from phones sold in the UK even if they are of the same band. You could still buy a 2X from the UK but it will only work at EDGE speeds. As for the US launch, I've heard that T-Mobile USA is actually going to be selling the 2X as the G2X in late March. Hopefully you could wait a couple more weeks. =)
Thanks for that info. I can never get these band/AWS stuff. I just know tmobile is 1700/2100. I guess i will wait few more weeks. If nothing comes out it might just be the Nexus S for me and then next year get a dual core.
the 2X is going to be coming to T-Mobile USA as the LG G2X. The phone is rumored to be out late this month or early next month.
Currently I have the Note 2 with AT&T. I will be upgrading to the Note 3 when it comes out. However, I am not sure which version of the Note 3 to get. Should I get the International version or the AT&T version. I think the international version has the Samsung CPU and the AT&T version has the Snapdragon 800. Would the international version work with AT&T LTE cellular? Would the international version work with T-Mobile LTE cellular (just in case I want to switch)?
Which one would give better battery and faster speed/graphics?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the international version will only run on AT&T 3G. I am in the camp that prefers the Snapdragon 800 to the revised Exynos 5, too. I'd opt for the AT&T version (Although personally I'm giving T-Mobile a shot this time around)
The N3 will be my first "carrier" phone on AT&T in two years. I'm not thrilled and depending on what it's like using it I may sell it on eBay and get a HSPA Octa. Here's my thinking:
Pros
I've been fine with HSPA+ on my previous phones and use to pay $10 a month for unlimited data through the "non-smartphone" loophole that applied to phone's AT&T didn't recognize. That party's over. So now I'm paying for LTE and not able to use it. So with AT&T's N3 I'll finally get what I'm paying for and even get LTE-A when they start to roll it out; supposedly this year.
The international N3's are insanely expensive. Negri and NewEgg have the Octa's at $779 and up. On Next it's $35 a month, I have no contract commitment beyond the phone's payoff, and I can sell it on eBay if I want something new.
Service and repair. Whether through Asurion or SquareTrade getting a carrier phone repaired/replaced is easy compared to jumping through hoops to get an international version (non-warranted and non-supported by Samsung in the U.S.) repaired.
Cons
God knows what AT&T's done with the s/w. We know there will be tons of their specific bloatware. That doesn't concern me because it can be disabled and with 32GB of NAND the space it takes up isn't a big deal. My big concern is their modifying, neutering, or completely removing some of Samsung's stock apps and features. I can't root my phones because I connect to secure networks so I'm pretty much stuck with what comes out of the box. I'm scared at what's coming out of AT&T's box.
I loved being able to use any multi-CSC ROM on Samfirmware or Samsung-Updates to keep my unrooted phone always current. I've probably had a dozen updates on my N7100. Now I'll be dependent on AT&T. That alone could end up pushing me to an international Octa N3. Also, to support the new features of Knox, Samsung's seriously altered and locked down the bootloader. So who knows what impact that'll have even on international N3's when it comes to updates via Odin. I used to root my phone when I wanted to do someting to it (EG: Google Wallet) and then unroot afterward and run Triangle Away. That ship sailed mid-year and with the Knox enhancements isn't coming back.
AT&T's modified radio may be crappy and I travel a lot internationally. Also I'm guessing on Next the device can't be unlocked until it's paid off. The only reason this is acceptable in my case is I'm getting a 3G (Octa) Note 10.1 2014 which has a dialer and I can use it in situations I need to pop in another carrier's SIM and/or the AT&T radio isn't working well.
Dev support is going to be limited on the AT&T N3's compared to the international versions. It'll probably still be strong but not as simple, timely, and robust. It doesn't apply to my un-rooted situation but something for people to consider.
The moment I find a S-800 international device that's quad-band GSM/UMTS and supports AT&T's LTE bands I'll buy it and sell my AT&T version. So far the EU and Latin American versions of the N3 don't support AT&T's LTE bands. The UK N3's LTE bands haven't been announced yet but I don't have high hopes. There's a chance a Canadian carrier will leave their version of the N3 unmolested and with the same model number as the international version and that it would support AT&T's LTE bands. That would allow it to be flashed like a non-carrier Samsung phone via Odin (with the possible exception mentioned above) and still get LTE on AT&T. Same thing for Claro in Puerto Rico. I'm not sure about the flash part but even an unmolested Canadian or Pueto Rican N3 with AT&T's LTE bands might end up being better than whatever AT&T does to their version.
All just my opinion of course.
I'm leaning towards either international or T.mobile or Canadian version. The att s4 can't be bootloader unlocked and new update patched the root. I'd hate to not have options on such a power device that I could potentially last for a couple years.
I had the note 1,note2,and now using the galaxy mega until the note 3 hits the shelf.I'm up in the air as well in deciding whether to keep my at&t note 3 or sell it and go international.I'd rather keep the at&t note 3,but who knows if were going to be up ****s creek with no root,are how long or ever going to get root method.I guess I can deal with no roms,but no root forget it
I thought that the international N3 (9005) with the SnapDragon 800 would be compatible with AT&T's LTE bands, no? Wasn't this mentioned during the presentation last week about the N3 supporting global LTE bands? Couldn't one just buy/import an international 9005 which was released in a country whose LTE bands match that of AT&T? Would this work?
I guess we'll know soon, but my own need would be for a variant which supports my home UK 4G network (EE most likely) plus USA AT&T LTE for when I'm in the states. Preferably bought in the UK for my UK carrier because of the discounts.
I thought the release event said they were going to support all bands in one device, but I've no idea if that's actually going to be true of the version you get at your local phone shop.
Andre
hockeyfan said:
I thought that the international N3 (9005) with the SnapDragon 800 would be compatible with AT&T's LTE bands, no? Wasn't this mentioned during the presentation last week about the N3 supporting global LTE bands? Couldn't one just buy/import an international 9005 which was released in a country whose LTE bands match that of AT&T? Would this work?
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I heard the same thing too.
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I've beeing researching for hours, and accordung to multiple sites, like this one the international N9005 version will support LTE 2100/1800/850/1600/800MHz (Bands 1,3,5,7,20). This does not include AT&T, whose LTE network operates on bands 4 (1700Mhz) and 17 (700Mhz). I hope these frequencies vary by region, like many sites mention, but I have my doubts we'll get lucky to see international N9005 with LTE bands 4 or 17.
Here is a list of countries, which has partial LTE band overlapping with AT&T. None of these support both, bands 4 and 17, which is what AT&T uses:
Argentina - 4
Colombia - 4
Ecuador - 4
Paraguay - 4
Peru - 4
Uruguay - 4
Canada - 4
Puerto Rico - 17
Since Note 3 has LTE radio, capable of supporting up to 6 bands, the only hope is that one of these carriers will pick up a version, where the other missing band is tossed in without any real purpose behind it, just to keep things interesting. For example, AT&T branded GN3 needs only these 2 LTE bands, and yet the device is LTE penta band.
Also, keep in mind we dont even know what band will AT&T use next year, when LTE-A goes live. I believe AT&T owns spectrum in 1900Mhz and 2100Mhz areas, and in the process of acquiring more.
EDIT: I'd like to clarify my statement about GN3 radio supporting 6 LTE bands. What I meant is some carriers will offer a version, which has up to 6 LTE bands enabled simultaneously. The actual hardware capability of Qualcomm's RF360 Front End solution is universal 2G/3G/4G support - the radio is capable of operating on *all* LTE frequencies.
I'm looking to replace an Honor 8 with a Mi 9. The phone looks great, but I was wondering if anyone was using it on T-Mobile in the US? It has most of the LTE bands, but doesn't have 66/71, so I was wondering how well I could expect it to work?
And how is Xiaomi about rolling out updates? Huawei released monthly updates for six months, then would slowly release last month's security update every 3-6 months before stopping at the 2 year mark. If I buy the Global version will OTAs become available based on IMEI? Or is there something region specific?
My Mi 9 just came in yesterday, and I'm on T-Mobile in the USA. I can confirm that volte and wifi calling works if you follow https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/how-to/wifi-calling-volte-mi-9-t3917887
Band 66 and 71 are both a big deal. Where I currently live there will be no band 66 or 71 anytime soon, so I didn't mind buying a phone without these bands. The phone before my Mi 9 didn't have band 66 or 71 either. That said, there are some parts of the country where band 71 deployment is happening rapidly. I don't travel often so it's not a big deal. If I did travel often I would definitely want band 71.
Now If I paid $600 or more for the phone I would expect the phone to have band 66 or 71...
I'm on Mint Mobile which uses the T-Mobile network. Reception is great where I live (Chicago) but if you need bands 66 and 71 I think you would need to look for a phone that is specifically made for use in North America. Most global unlocked phones don't support those bands.
I am with MetroPCS, live in Indianapolis and my speed and reception is all over the place. I have the unlimited data plan but I am not sure if I am being throttled or not. I've literally run a speed test back to back in the same location and I will get two very different download speeds. I am not sure if it is the phone or network.
For instance, I have 3/5 bars but my most recent download speed is 4.83 mbps. Unfortunately, I have no way of comparing this with another phone bc my previous phone was a s6+ and I think the radio was going out. However, I can confirm that VOLTE and wifi calling work.
I really wish this phone had band 66 and 71, but I knew it didn't have them when I bought this phone.