I just unpacked my att 8925 tilt this afternoon and its a huge upgrade from the 8125 i had for a year and a half. Anyway i wanted to see what the best way to pimp this thing out. I tried out the program Mobile Shell by SPB. Great program as you all know. Anyway my friend highly recommended xda. I read through the faqs and im still a little weary of what i should do.
duttythroy
* 2008-06-07 Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588
is the rom i think works best. I just wanna make sure i can use this one. here are my device details:
Current ROM Version: 1.62.502.0
Radio Version: 1.27.14.09
Do i find a rom thats compatible with my radio, how do i find that?
Thanks in advance, sorry if i jumped around.
If anyone tells you to search for the answers, then a pox on them. We need a good ROM choosing thread every so often for everybody's sake.
I'm with Dutty's Diamond V1 now, and personally I find it much slower than his previous hybrid ROMS, V1 or V2. I haven't tried any of the newer ROMS since then, although that's what I'm about to do now.
Even Dutty himself downgraded from his diamond ROM.
beezza said:
I just unpacked my att 8925 tilt this afternoon and its a huge upgrade from the 8125 i had for a year and a half. Anyway i wanted to see what the best way to pimp this thing out. I tried out the program Mobile Shell by SPB. Great program as you all know. Anyway my friend highly recommended xda. I read through the faqs and im still a little weary of what i should do.
duttythroy
* 2008-06-07 Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588
is the rom i think works best. I just wanna make sure i can use this one. here are my device details:
Current ROM Version: 1.62.502.0
Radio Version: 1.27.14.09
Have a look at this ROM. Looks and runs amazing.......I have been using it for around a week now without any problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405897
Do i find a rom thats compatible with my radio, how do i find that?
Thanks in advance, sorry if i jumped around.
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Have a look at this ROM. Looks and runs amazing.......I have been using it for around a week now without any problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405897
BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING. GET HARDSPL INSTALLED.............makes it easier to fix if/when things go wrong.......
mystic_nacho said:
If anyone tells you to search for the answers, then a pox on them. We need a good ROM choosing thread every so often for everybody's sake.
I'm with Dutty's Diamond V1 now, and personally I find it much slower than his previous hybrid ROMS, V1 or V2. I haven't tried any of the newer ROMS since then, although that's what I'm about to do now.
Even Dutty himself downgraded from his diamond ROM.
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First, this thread will be moved soon, as this is not the place for a discussion thread about rom preferences. Those types of discussions should take place in the Kaiser General forum. This forum is for developing roms.
Second, those people who will tell you to search and try them yourself do so with good reason. "Best rom" is an inherently ambiguous and subjective description as it depends on your language, carrier, usage, programs you like, etc. So please to not cop an attitude with those who are simply trying to remind other users to follow the forum rules, it is not helpful and it really annoys the people here who spend a great deal of free time helping the same people who are constantly complaining. If you don't like the rules, take it up with the administration.
beezza said:
I just unpacked my att 8925 tilt this afternoon and its a huge upgrade from the 8125 i had for a year and a half. Anyway i wanted to see what the best way to pimp this thing out. I tried out the program Mobile Shell by SPB. Great program as you all know. Anyway my friend highly recommended xda. I read through the faqs and im still a little weary of what i should do.
duttythroy
* 2008-06-07 Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588
is the rom i think works best. I just wanna make sure i can use this one. here are my device details:
Current ROM Version: 1.62.502.0
Radio Version: 1.27.14.09
Do i find a rom thats compatible with my radio, how do i find that?
Thanks in advance, sorry if i jumped around.
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***BE SURE TO HARD SPL BEFORE DOING ANYTING***
Finally, since this will probably get moved anyway, i'll tell you that I have used recently Shoguns Death V4.1 BE edition, Leo's Diamond V9, Dutty's hybrid v2 from april 29th, Garmin's DK1.2, Dutty's Diamond Rom, Sakajati's Hyperdragon, and gullum's new rom. I personally like Garmin's new rom the best, with shogun's a close second and dutty's hybrid v2 third. That being said, all the roms are great. You will need to just see what ones you like best. I know that there are a few more than i didn't mention, but that is only because i haven't used them yet so i cannot speak to their quality.
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I am trying to figure out which Diamond Rom works best on the Kaiser. I am looking for speed and reliability. So far I have only used L26's rom V5 and V9. I would prefer a rom with MS Voice Command but I can install that later if needed. Thanks everyone.
Hyperdragon for me
I have found great speed and most importantly stability with Hyperdragons ROM. They are not bloated and you can install what you need on them. After trying and flashing roms every week, i have been hanging on to the last Hyperdragon that I installed since last 30 days. Its remarkable for me.
And it seems to be going strong.
And someone else will reply that he loves another ROM, I'm hooked on ROMeOS for example.
Really, the best thing to do is to try out a few, you'll find out what is important for you, and you'll end up with a ROM that YOU will like.
Well I appreciate everyones input. I have only tried L26's Roms. I am in the process of trying Hyperdragons and will try your recommendation next. Thanks again.
Check my ROM thread. It will be updated daily.
I hope that i can finish all Cooked 6.1 ROM's till friday. Ill do my best.
Yeah, You were not kidding when you said Ultimate thread. I saved it to my favorites. Since there are so many, do you yourself have a preference? I have tried L26 V5 and V9. V5 was the most stable for me, V9 has some issues for my device. I have also tried HyperDragon III 1.1.6 version which has been decent and has great graphics. I think I may try Duttythroy's next.
I've found Dutty's Diamond to be the quickest on my Tilt.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398271
I tried a recent version of hyperdragon and it was sickeningly fast. Never thought it'd be possible on the tilt. But it had issues with wmp crashing the phone, which I believe is fixed now. I've tried sleuth's, but it's not diamond I don't believe. Was quite slow (too old I guess). Hopefully new version coming soon will haul ass. Am on l26 right now and it's fast compared to older roms, but dog slow compared to hyperdragon. Quite stable though and I love the look of the stock diamond. Glossy black almost
i tried em all
Hyperdragon IIIs or IIIr for me!
I believe SJ is coming out with a new one sometime soon. sweeeeeeeeet
Garmin ROM 1.2
I have tried lot of ROMS (even Dutty's) for kaiser, but what I found the best ROM is Garmin ROM 1.2 till now.
Gullum's ThrottleDiamond
Try Gullum's Throttle Diamond Rom. I've tried all of the previously mentioned ones and enjoyed most, but Gullum's gives you more functionality similar to a diamond in my opinion.
Getting used to the Throttle Launcher will be your only challenge if you have not had experience with it before.
Good luck!
From the Diamond ROM's I've tried... I think HyperDragon IIIs is the best, mainly because of it's stability. It is based on 19591. The others I've tried are Dutty v1, Garmin DK1.2 and L26 v8... which are all based on 19588.
My humble opinion
Hi all,
Well after much deliberation and hard choices I decided to go for the T-Mobile Compact IV due to being the best deal. I am returning to WM after 18 months ditching my 02 XDA mini s
I have been scouring these forums for weeks now to see what I can do right away to my new phone...
I want to obviously get rid of the Tmobile branded touch flo 3d..
Can you please report what best SPL's, Radios and ROM's are best for this particular device (i understand some radios work better for different carries, so obviously would like to know from experience who has best performance for tmobile).
I have searched and searched the forums, and with it being a MDA compact the answers are less definative for whats best and I just want to make sure.
I am aware of mikes thread with the compact he got for his gf but would like info in addition to this.
Would you reccomend me opening up the box and then just wiping the phone right away without using the tmobile version
Thanks for your help
Granty
I have had a UK T-Mobile MDA IV for about a week now.
I used the SwiftBL 7.5 ROM with no difficulties. Upgraded the same day as I got the phone after it had charged a bit - the T-Mobile ROM really didn't have much going for it. Didn't try the other ROMs though. No problems installing the hard SPL (jockyw2001's HardSPL 1.24), it just worked. I did briefly consider sticking with the T-Mobile ROM with a bit of debranding, but it really is awful and I don't regret upgrading now!
Upgraded the radio to v1.00.25.05 as recommended in the SwiftBL thread and it worked well. Later upgraded radio to v1.00.25.BS14 and I think it works better, but that's a bit subjective - I haven't been running benchmarks and formal tests! Pretty easy to downgrade if you have to though.
I think "what's best" is pretty subjective. From the few days I've been in this forum it seems SwiftBL is like a slightly tweaked HTC ROM with some useful tools on it, and Dutty's is more of a hardcore tweaked ROM built for speed, but I might be wrong on that
all i can reccomend is Dutty's lite (+, of course, all what you prefer, all tweaks and other "must have")
radio? .05, .07, .08, .14 - it depends on many factors (country, city, operator etc) so we cannot surely say "this radio is THE BEST!
one is as sure as ****: debranding is necessity, radio rom .03 is the worst, T-Mobile ROM is also one piece of ****
Thanks for both of your replies. I have downloaded SwiftBL 7.5 while I was waiting for response, seemed one to go for. Download HardSPL - Diamond - Olinex- Hope thats the one to go for and also downloaded the radio .08 and BS14, will probs bang BS14 on and give that a go. Will let ya know my experiences tomorrow!
echolock said:
I have had a UK T-Mobile MDA IV for about a week now.
I used the SwiftBL 7.5 ROM with no difficulties. Upgraded the same day as I got the phone after it had charged a bit - the T-Mobile ROM really didn't have much going for it. Didn't try the other ROMs though. No problems installing the hard SPL (jockyw2001's HardSPL 1.24), it just worked. I did briefly consider sticking with the T-Mobile ROM with a bit of debranding, but it really is awful and I don't regret upgrading now!
Upgraded the radio to v1.00.25.05 as recommended in the SwiftBL thread and it worked well. Later upgraded radio to v1.00.25.BS14 and I think it works better, but that's a bit subjective - I haven't been running benchmarks and formal tests! Pretty easy to downgrade if you have to though.
I think "what's best" is pretty subjective. From the few days I've been in this forum it seems SwiftBL is like a slightly tweaked HTC ROM with some useful tools on it, and Dutty's is more of a hardcore tweaked ROM built for speed, but I might be wrong on that
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I too have had my mdac4 for a week or so. I tried the Swift rom and it was great to start with but then I lost all sound, although I did install other stuff afterwards which may have been to blame too. I ended up installing the paonosha rom and it has been very good so far, very quick and no gps lag
I'm using 08 radio
Well its here, TMobiles ROM is awful. If i didnt know about this site i'd have sent it back right away, so slow and unresponsive.
Gutted mobile.co.uk announced xperia today but oh well what can you do?
At least I got a decent deal on mine on a 12 month contract I suppose as opposed to an 18 month
I wouldn't go with the xperia even if the price is the same as diamond, touch pro would be the more reasonable choice to go.
had my MDA C4 for just over a month now and i can say a few things:
* I'm using Dutty's rom which is nice and stable and has all the default apps i need. Do not stay on the stock rom unless you have a death wish
* In terms of radio's, i'm on .08 at the moment but i'm just about to switch back as i can't seem to get a GPS lock on and i need it for TomTom. I was on .05 radio before and this was working perfect, and the battery life was also around the same as this .08
* If you have a later ROM version than 1.37 then please try and make a backup, i haven't come across any so far and it would be nice to have one if i have to revert back at some point!
* Play around. There is most likely going to be more than one ROM that will suit your needs, so it's all about what you really want from it down to the skins they have tbh. Most of the ROM's at the moment seem to have pretty much the same speeds and tweaks, and the only difference being that they customize it (whether it be custom manilla icons, start menu, etc).
That's my two cents
Addicteddddd said:
* Play around. There is most likely going to be more than one ROM that will suit your needs, so it's all about what you really want from it down to the skins they have tbh. Most of the ROM's at the moment seem to have pretty much the same speeds and tweaks, and the only difference being that they customize it (whether it be custom manilla icons, start menu, etc).
That's my two cents
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As someone who is in a very similar position to Addictedddd, I echo his words of playing around.
I agree that most ROMs are similar with respect to tweaks, etc. Personally, I'm using Version 7.0 of SwiftBLs ROM. I know that this is not the latest (I think I posted somewhere recently that "newest is not necessarily the best") but it's the one that I most prefer - The one that feels right, if you like..
I've tried countless others but I always keep coming back to version 7.0..
I'm also running the 1.00.25.BS14 Radio on mine. Again, the 05 seemed OK, the 08 didn't change much but I pesonally noted a slight increase in signal with the BS14 so I stuck with it.
You need to play around with the Diamond and experiment with different programs and ROMs. Only this way will you find out what is best for you.
Finally, Don't forget to read. The Wiki has a great introduction for flashing. I've added a link below:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
Read it - I'd hate to see a post from you tomorrow saying "Help - I've Bricked it!!"
Take care and happy experimenting..
Right oh my findings..
Tmobile ROM...super slow, would have gone back if I didnt know how to change.
After much confusion of the guide saying there was a 1.40 SPL that wasnt developers I found out it was actually 1.30....
I tried installing BS14 radio with 1.30 but kept erroring at 0% (i wasnt even sure the SPL was installed right as it only took literally a second to update, even though bootloader confirmed it)
So after reading a few more peoples reports I went to HardSPL 1.40 developers (just make sure I don't do any dodgey roms) and installed the BS14 radio no problem, again the SPL updated quick taking only a second, then about a minute for the radio.
Installed swiftblade 7.5 which installed very quickly too, about 2 or 3 minutes, so much quicker than the Tmobile ROM.
Not sure how GPS lock is, havent got any sat nav software on, tried google maps which was instant but I take it that is using A-GPS.
Signal strength is not very good, 1 bar, might be my area, all other phones around here have full signal though so may just be tmobile. Will trial it for a bit but if it causes problems try 08 or 05.
I too have had my Compact IV for about a month now, also returning to WM after a stint with a Nokia N95 8Gb (Glad to be back!!). I did manage to refrain from flashing the ROM until today. I didn't have any problems with the T-Mobile ROM but have been reading the forums here and at Modaco and was interested to see if there really was that much of an improvement to be had. I have gone with TLR's Diamond ROM 3 and all i can say is wow!!, its only been a few hours so far but the entire phone is much slicker and quicker, there really is a big difference. I really must say thanks to Jockyw2001 and TheLoanRanger for their excellent work, and to everyone at XDA Developers and Modaco for sharing their experiences. I may well go on to try a few other ROM's but for now im glad to have taken the first step.
Hello, couple of days ago i moved back to windows mobile and bought a HD...So far i have flashed the latest stock ROM, Dutty's 2.3,Touch of HD 3.4.2, wm 6.5 version ..... and I would say the stock ROM is the best so far
Other options ? Any ideas which is the most used rom ?
Regards,
A
the roms we use, are the ones we like. you need to run the one you like
you wont get a vote here on "whose is the best rom?"
didn't ask whose rom is the best....i asked what is the rom that most of you use and maybe why...I don't want any vote....I don't think any chief would mind hearing opinions about their roms....Might help em gettin better .....Anyways, if the staff thinks that my question is wrong...the thread can be trashed
Regards,
A
rootkited said:
didn't ask whose rom is the best....i asked what is the rom that most of you use and maybe why...I don't want any vote....I don't think any chief would mind hearing opinions about their roms....Might help em gettin better .....Anyways, if the staff thinks that my question is wrong...the thread can be trashed
Regards,
A
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i use win 6.5 miri xtralight with winterface.
it is faster than the original roms, and seems to be more stable than duttys..
rootkited said:
didn't ask whose rom is the best....i asked what is the rom that most of you use and maybe why...I don't want any vote....I don't think any chief would mind hearing opinions about their roms....Might help em gettin better .....Anyways, if the staff thinks that my question is wrong...the thread can be trashed
Regards,
A
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I think the 2 most common rom's used (correct me if I'm wrong) are Duttys & Laurentius26
Dutty has a number of rom's released with varied reports on each so its best to read each thread and make up your own opinion. Personally the best thing you could do is flash a rom, try it out and make your own opinion. I have flash3ed countless rom's and still haven't found the perfect one!
rootkited said:
Hello, couple of days ago i moved back to windows mobile and bought a HD...So far i have flashed the latest stock ROM, Dutty's 2.3,Touch of HD 3.4.2, wm 6.5 version ..... and I would say the stock ROM is the best so far
Other options ? Any ideas which is the most used rom ?
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It depends which criteria you have. On rom is stable, another have more functions another a nicer interface another is faster another has more free space.
Write down your own criteria and check which ROM is the best for. Most of the users here are still searching (see Fallen Spartan)
rootkited said:
Hello, couple of days ago i moved back to windows mobile and bought a HD...So far i have flashed the latest stock ROM, Dutty's 2.3,Touch of HD 3.4.2, wm 6.5 version ..... and I would say the stock ROM is the best so far
Other options ? Any ideas which is the most used rom ?
Regards,
A
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Me too. I am back to stock, although I did compress manilla textures in it.
Even tried many radios, but back to stock radio as well.
Great thing are done with roms here, but they have IMHO to many oddities.
Still, HTC could learn a trick or two overhere....
I did flash my Elf (Old Touch) with a mature cooked rom, and I am happy with that.
No doubt there will be great Touch HD roms here, when I have bought my Pro2
I have also tried Laurentius26 ROM.It has a lot of features that i like (big start menu...i mean very big :-D)....but also found some bugs (i fixed one)...It's very fast and i like that
Duttys is a little to slow...i think...
I will flash right now the xtralight version of miri's 6.5 wm (now that viczena said that it's fast)
Greetings from Romania,
/A
Very very duummm question? Or is it, where can i get Stock WM 6.1, i flashed mine, and i dont know wich one to use, they are all great, so i am heading back to original? So if you could please help me.
Well i'm just going along with whatever roms come out, so far tryed 6 of them a week apart, about same. I'm sticking now to 1 new rom a month.
Nice looking rom
So could you please tell me if there is any rom with nice interface? I've tried most of Duty's , MaryOne and much more, but I can't find any which has cool TF3D, every tab backgrund (I don't want to spend half of my day to resize a picture just to make a background for every tabs).
P.S. Sorry for my english
Good Morning people,
After beeing a long time with an iphone, i got an Htc HD running on original WM 6.1.. Before the iphone, i got Qtek 2020 and S100 flashed.
A few years ago, there were not so many roms available so it was easy to choose one. But now lol I see so many releazes and different opinions
That's why, i write this little topic in order to ask wich rom to inject in My Htc HD blackstone.
Actually, My SPL is 1.54 with rom version 1.56.406.1 (43972) FRE
Radio version is 1.13.25.24
protocole version : 52.62.25.34U
Can you pleaze advice me wich latest rom based on WM6.5 to inject ? i see manila and some others but...
In fact, what i would like is to update from WM6.1 to 6.5 running smooth and stable.
Thank you for your help and have a nice day allzz
yabadabado said:
Good Morning people,
After beeing a long time with an iphone, i got an Htc HD running on original WM 6.1.. Before the iphone, i got Qtek 2020 and S100 flashed.
A few years ago, there were not so many roms available so it was easy to choose one. But now lol I see so many releazes and different opinions
That's why, i write this little topic in order to ask wich rom to inject in My Htc HD blackstone.
Actually, My SPL is 1.54 with rom version 1.56.406.1 (43972) FRE
Radio version is 1.13.25.24
protocole version : 52.62.25.34U
Can you pleaze advice me wich latest rom based on WM6.5 to inject ? i see manila and some others but...
In fact, what i would like is to update from WM6.1 to 6.5 running smooth and stable.
Thank you for your help and have a nice day allzz
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Well.... The latest fastest, stablest and also running smooth and having no drain battery fast issues are from my point of view the Miri V38 with Manila 2.1. Sure, it is an WM 6.5 21893 Build, which is in the meanwhile a little bit old, but for daily use, it is perfect. Only sad thing is, that Miri decided to ride off from the HD ROMs and go over to burn HD2 ROMs.. But it was very stable ROM.... Thinking to switch back to them...
Hi,
Many, many, many threads have been posted about this topic and like you said yourself it's all personal, so there is really no good answer.
I can tell from my own expereience that most of the new roms are (almost) completely bug free (at least the real annoying bugs). I suggest you pick a few of the popular rom-threads and read the latest post to see what other people think of those roms.
There are two versions beeing cooked lately: the 5.2.91*** and 2.3.5**. I believe the first ones is at it's end of development and is very stable. The last one is a bit more finger friendly (buttons all below), is also fairly stable, but in my opinion a little bit slower then the first series.
To give you a little advice (but this is personal): I like Topix because of the stability, speed, fluity, low memory usage and battery time. I tried almost all the roms and I must say that the "Energy", "G10", "Mineterror", "Miri" and Dusk-evo roms are all good........aargh, who am I kidding, they are ALL good, so start reading, test a few and you decide what you like best.
How to flash is over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
Good luck!
You've already got a couple of helpful posts which I feel is already too many
Opinionated threads are frowned upon in XDA as they create endless long threads due to each user having different opinions on which is best due to everyone having different tastes, i.e. what I like, you may not etc etc
If you're looking for the best one, then as a rule of thumb try flashing the roms in the threads which are used most often as surely these people cannot all be wrong
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Hi everyone,
I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have been torn on whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 for some time now. Well I finally decided to go for it, but then came across the official unbranded HTC rom.
My question is (dealing only with official release updates from tmobile and htc):
Who has upgraded to both branded and unbranded and can relay pros and cons of both compared to 6.1 and each other? Or has anyone heard enough about both, or can give me any relevant information?
Also, do I need to HardSPL in order to flash the HTC rom?
I'd really like to lose all the bloatware and sh!tty splash screen and everything else t-mo, but I don't know if there is any clear-cut advantage to doing so.
Also, if I am completely daft and missed a similar pre-existing thread, please inform me of my mistake. Same goes if I posted in the wrong section, this is my first post in evar.
THANKS!!!
Put Hardspl on your phone and you can test yourself You can always go back to the 6.1 rom.
is there a stock manila 2.5 ROM offered by t-mo?
if not, 2.5 + CHT is definately worth using the HTC ROM.
I would not mess with Sense 2.5 unless it is cooked. You need a lot of tweaks to make it run smoothly on the TP2, especially in HTC messaging. I am using a cooked version of the T-Mobile stock rom with Sense 2.1, has been the best and most stable rom for me yet. Sense 2.5 is good if you don't mind giving up some performance for new features. Sense 2.1 is what our devices run best with. Hope this helps you decide.
EDIT: In comparison to WinMo 6.1 with TF3D, upgrading to 6.5 with Sense2.1 will in my opinion make the device run smoother. 6.1 is a very solid OS and works well with TouchFlo to make scrolling much easier. However, I say if you can upgrade the device to 6.5 without losing performance go for it because it is much better integrated than TouchFlo, making the touch experience much better. Through my testing, the TP2 functions best with WinMo 6.5 with Sense2.1. The newer WinMo builds are probably better off using on the HD2 and other high performance devices. Same thing with Sense2.5, it can run smoothly but you will be giving up some speed as well as memory and battery life. I have come to terms with my phone, lol... Nothing beyond Sense2.1 and WM6.5 from now on. But you have to test on your own to see which you like better. Good luck!
I've been cooking own ROM for a few weeks now, and it's a T-Mobile no frills ROM.
It's not quite finished, but it's very stable and the battery life is excellent. I could always use another tester if you're interested.
krodby said:
Hi everyone,
I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have been torn on whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 for some time now. Well I finally decided to go for it, but then came across the official unbranded HTC rom.
My question is (dealing only with official release updates from tmobile and htc):
Who has upgraded to both branded and unbranded and can relay pros and cons of both compared to 6.1 and each other? Or has anyone heard enough about both, or can give me any relevant information?
Also, do I need to HardSPL in order to flash the HTC rom?
EDIT: I used the official T-Mobile for several weeks, it is OK. I'm on NRG now.
I'd really like to lose all the bloatware and sh!tty splash screen and everything else t-mo, but I don't know if there is any clear-cut advantage to doing so.
Also, if I am completely daft and missed a similar pre-existing thread, please inform me of my mistake. Same goes if I posted in the wrong section, this is my first post in evar.
THANKS!!!
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You would have to hard SPL to use the HTC ROM.
The Official WM 6.5 is a sense 2.1 version, but you would not need to hard SPL.
Thanks for all of your help!
I'm still not sure what i'll do for now, but i'll probably end up just biting the bullet and becoming an addict. I'll start with the official sh!t and gateway into flashing every stable rom that exists lol.