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Stok vs custom ROM

Hello, couple of days ago i moved back to windows mobile and bought a HD...So far i have flashed the latest stock ROM, Dutty's 2.3,Touch of HD 3.4.2, wm 6.5 version ..... and I would say the stock ROM is the best so far
Other options ? Any ideas which is the most used rom ?
Regards,
A

the roms we use, are the ones we like. you need to run the one you like
you wont get a vote here on "whose is the best rom?"

didn't ask whose rom is the best....i asked what is the rom that most of you use and maybe why...I don't want any vote....I don't think any chief would mind hearing opinions about their roms....Might help em gettin better .....Anyways, if the staff thinks that my question is wrong...the thread can be trashed
Regards,
A

rootkited said:
didn't ask whose rom is the best....i asked what is the rom that most of you use and maybe why...I don't want any vote....I don't think any chief would mind hearing opinions about their roms....Might help em gettin better .....Anyways, if the staff thinks that my question is wrong...the thread can be trashed
Regards,
A
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i use win 6.5 miri xtralight with winterface.
it is faster than the original roms, and seems to be more stable than duttys..

rootkited said:
didn't ask whose rom is the best....i asked what is the rom that most of you use and maybe why...I don't want any vote....I don't think any chief would mind hearing opinions about their roms....Might help em gettin better .....Anyways, if the staff thinks that my question is wrong...the thread can be trashed
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A
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I think the 2 most common rom's used (correct me if I'm wrong) are Duttys & Laurentius26
Dutty has a number of rom's released with varied reports on each so its best to read each thread and make up your own opinion. Personally the best thing you could do is flash a rom, try it out and make your own opinion. I have flash3ed countless rom's and still haven't found the perfect one!

rootkited said:
Hello, couple of days ago i moved back to windows mobile and bought a HD...So far i have flashed the latest stock ROM, Dutty's 2.3,Touch of HD 3.4.2, wm 6.5 version ..... and I would say the stock ROM is the best so far
Other options ? Any ideas which is the most used rom ?
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It depends which criteria you have. On rom is stable, another have more functions another a nicer interface another is faster another has more free space.
Write down your own criteria and check which ROM is the best for. Most of the users here are still searching (see Fallen Spartan)

rootkited said:
Hello, couple of days ago i moved back to windows mobile and bought a HD...So far i have flashed the latest stock ROM, Dutty's 2.3,Touch of HD 3.4.2, wm 6.5 version ..... and I would say the stock ROM is the best so far
Other options ? Any ideas which is the most used rom ?
Regards,
A
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Me too. I am back to stock, although I did compress manilla textures in it.
Even tried many radios, but back to stock radio as well.
Great thing are done with roms here, but they have IMHO to many oddities.
Still, HTC could learn a trick or two overhere....
I did flash my Elf (Old Touch) with a mature cooked rom, and I am happy with that.
No doubt there will be great Touch HD roms here, when I have bought my Pro2

I have also tried Laurentius26 ROM.It has a lot of features that i like (big start menu...i mean very big :-D)....but also found some bugs (i fixed one)...It's very fast and i like that
Duttys is a little to slow...i think...
I will flash right now the xtralight version of miri's 6.5 wm (now that viczena said that it's fast)
Greetings from Romania,
/A

Very very duummm question? Or is it, where can i get Stock WM 6.1, i flashed mine, and i dont know wich one to use, they are all great, so i am heading back to original? So if you could please help me.

Well i'm just going along with whatever roms come out, so far tryed 6 of them a week apart, about same. I'm sticking now to 1 new rom a month.

Nice looking rom
So could you please tell me if there is any rom with nice interface? I've tried most of Duty's , MaryOne and much more, but I can't find any which has cool TF3D, every tab backgrund (I don't want to spend half of my day to resize a picture just to make a background for every tabs).
P.S. Sorry for my english

Advice for good roms with Leo Interface

Ok,
All my time with the Touch HD, I always used roms from Dutty, never tried from others. I like them cause there's few bugs on them, are always very stable and specially cause Dutty keeps and update almost every default in-built software that comes with the original roms.
But now, I'm a little disappointed with Dutty's roms, in particularity the roms with Leo interface, ie. manila 2.5, that are pledged with some bugs and in particularly don't even have Videocalls.
Can anyone give me an advise to an alternative to Dutty rom's ?
I would like to know what are the best roms with Leo interface and more importantly, that keep the default built-in programs (but always updated), for other words, are not stripped down (like the ones from Dutty)
Any hint would be great.

try miris ROM. one of them has manilla 2.6 running on windows mobile 6.1 and is supposed to be much faster.

think the thread is going to be closed as it is something personal
i can only say look at my signature what im using

I'm not asking anything personal, I'm asking a good rom with Leo interface and most important, to have all or most of the default in-build apps like the official roms.
Does Miri's rom have all or most of the default in-build apps (updated of course) like the official roms?

youre asking a good leobased rom that is for everyone different there for oure asking an opinion based question and yes miri has that
try to look at the first pages most of them have written down what they have in there rom

basically, there is no right answer, just what people like. this might aswell be a "whats your favourite ROM" thread which does little more than clutter the forum.
back to the topic though, i suggest you try them all (there are only 3 or so). could probably test them all in half an hour.

get miri 7.1

I've tested a couple of the latest Leo roms and the only thing you have to take into consideration is to REMEMBER that they are all in beta.
From my perspective they ALL run like crap for daily use. They are interesting to try out, but they are also more frustrating and slow to use and not worth the sleek new interfaces. Using any 6.1 rom is going to run much better

muhahahhahhahha...great thread here really awesome contribution and totally original question.

Hi onesolo, after been using almost all of Dutty's Rom's, when I moved to 6.5, the R2 was giving me some problems, and then decided to try PDAVIET. For now I'm pleased but still get the same problem as Dutty's with the SMS question, not sure if it's the same problem for everyone, but as you know here (PT) we can send an 160 caract. sms, and with this new 6.5 Rom I can't get out of the UNICODE and the lenght of the sms just passed to 70 caract.
But nevertheless I think it's stable and worth a big try.
Ok, ok, I can see another anoying thing, that is the memory use, if you have two or more programs open it may reach 70%.
With the good old Dutty's, would be hard to get there,
Ciao, até logo.
Jo

Plnety of roms out there with your requests. You just need to search. As stated above everyone has there own opinions on which roms best suit them as well as their own personal favourite chef, so would normally nominate them.
Best advice would be read title of each rom thread, research 1st post of each thread, see how others like this rom and then try it to make your own conclusion
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Ex Onkolog Rom users..What are you using?

Hi all, not sure if this is going to be one of those threads that gets deleted or moved, but hey its the 'rom' people I want opinions from
Ive been using Onkologs 6.5 superlite rom from way back in May, and all this time its been super fast and super stable through all my day to day use and work.
But things move on and so does the software and tweaks etc...esp looking thru some of the recent roms posted here.
Now I've just tried a couple of the roms posted here with all the upto date stuff and what I have thought would be fast and stable roms, but sadly they dont hold a candle to the speed and stability of Onkologs old rom.
Now I know his roms were quite popular, so was just wondering what other people are currently using as a replacement and any opinions really Has somebody created a rom as clean and fast but with the new software?
Cheers
Mick

Good question - same problem here.

I too enjoyed the clean, fast, and not pre-customized roms from Onkolog.
Since his retire I've been using first Miri's, then Nrg's for a while, atractive but full of clutter, then returned to Miri's Standard, since I didn't feel much of a difference with his own XtraLight, until I found Xanny's, Its stable, great looking and up-to-date.
Lately, I always try the last Miri Standard and the last Xanny without HTC Messaging, Miri's is cleaner, but Xanny's is nicier, if only he would cook a version without Manila I'll be happier.
Just my opinion..
Regards and Merry Christmass to all,
Carlos

CarlosX said:
I too enjoyed the clean, fast, and not pre-customized roms from Onkolog.
Since his retire I've been using first Miri's, then Nrg's for a while, atractive but full of clutter, then returned to Miri's Standard, since I didn't feel much of a difference with his own XtraLight, until I found Xanny's, Its stable, great looking and up-to-date.
Lately, I always try the last Miri Standard and the last Xanny without HTC Messaging, Miri's is cleaner, but Xanny's is nicier, if only he would cook a version without Manila I'll be happier.
Just my opinion..
Regards and Merry Christmass to all,
Carlos
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I totally agree with you my friend...and Merry Christmas to all again..

Kwbr's Topix roms are always a save bet. They still sport the manila 2.1 version, so they are more stable then the 2.5 roms out there. Besides that Kwbr has been able to make a rom that is able to withstand quite some messing around without crashing .
He has a WM6.1 version which is really fast, but his WM6.5 version is also something you should try for a while!
They are not as clean or lite as onkolog's, but they are stable and fast! And to be honest, his additions/tweaks to the rom are in no way a downside of the rom

Smobbo said:
Kwbr's Topix roms are always a save bet. They still sport the manila 2.1 version, so they are more stable then the 2.5 roms out there. Besides that Kwbr has been able to make a rom that is able to withstand quite some messing around without crashing .
He has a WM6.1 version which is really fast, but his WM6.5 version is also something you should try for a while!
They are not as clean or lite as onkolog's, but they are stable and fast! And to be honest, his additions/tweaks to the rom are in no way a downside of the rom
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I totally agree.
I use kwbr's Topix WM6.1 for my normal business use, and have been doing that for more than 7 months ( I was also a former Onkolog user, still remember his april 19? version, still have the complete backup somewhere).
Topix is a superstable and fast rom, and it's fantastic to use.
I like WM6.1 better than his new WM6.5 versions.
Now and then I go on holiday or more easy work abroad, and that's the time to try other roms. I've tried many, and now I'm testing Xanny's Grid 1.6 280011 rom, and I like what I see, a beauty right out of the box.
But is it stable enough for everyday use ? Time will show.

topix
i vote topix super fast super stable and working until the next version of his rom...From Greece with Respect have nice Holidays and Merry Christmas...

Think your always going to get different responses on this. So far you have been told to try Miri's, Xannys and now topix. Best thing to do is go try them. This thread will continue to grow with people suggesting different rom chefs as each person has their own personal favourite.
As I said, go try and make your own conclusion of whats nearest to Onkolog and best for you, as in the end, only you can make this decision
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Which one do you prefer?

Duttys HD Leo Holy Grail R0
or
Miri WM65 21890 :: Manila 2.5 :: V 19.0
Which of these roms is more stable more responsive and gives a near to hd2 experience?

option 3: the new Topix 2.5 rom has my vote .
And to be more constructive:
Try them both out, because it is often related to the installed programs, and what you feel is important in a good rom. So it really is hard (if not impossible...) to answer your question.

i just want to know about those 2 as they have the best reviews!!

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i just want to know about those 2 as they have the best reviews!!
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Try them both out, in fact I reckon you should give topix a spin too, I reckon its the best Rom i ever installed and i must have tried around 30+ in the last 2 months or so including Dutty and Miri
Alchopop

I would add the Cloudy 1.2 rom to that list too then... Before i tried Cloudy's rom, I worked with Dutty's holy grail for a few months, but it was still a bit sluggish. Cloudy, imo, comes very close to the hd2 rom.

There is not really an answer to this question, because everyone's having different opinions in chosing a rom. The best thing for you would be to try them both, and make your own conclusion which one is "better".

Guys thanks for the answers. The thing is that you guys test all sort of roms so i thought that maybe it will save time. Please all of you if you can elaborate and explain with reasons why you think the rom you have said is the best. Do all the features work or you have to patch them up from here and there?

waiting the thread to be closed.......

+1, please close this thread. This is a very stupid question and like it said there is no answer.

To the OP and based on my limited testing. I tried the Holly Grail a number of months ago and at the time it really was the Holly Grail. It was probably the best and most fully featured Leo rom of the time. I have tried Miris Leo ROM 17 and although it was very good and very well featured, it did hang on me a number of times. As I understand it, I should of carried out a number of tweaks to get the thing working correctly (note to self read the thread). Version 19 is certainly the later of the two and as I understand it features many improvements that resolve bugs, add new features and improve performance. For me my next step was to test Miri's 19 Leo. I think there are still extra steps that need to be performed to get it running 100%, something to do with rilphone.dll I think, but nothing too serious.
Take note MIRI has a number of different versions with different performance implications. As I understand it, the version with HTC messaging can slow performance, but on the other hand features HTC messaging
Hope this helps.

Your asking for users to choose between 2 roms. Some are going to say 1, some 2
Everyone has different opinions. End result may be in favour of one other the other, but you may dsiagree after trying both
Best advice try both and make your own conclusion
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p.s. opinionated threads are frowned upon in XDA and are generally closed asap as they create endless long debates

What would you say is the best rom?

Looking for a good reliable rom, just wondering what would you say is the best rom to have on my blackstone?

the clean rom ist the best and the fastest rom on xda.
the top version is better than the bottom version.
==> try clean rom top version 1
http://www.multiupload.com/IK64V7SC7D

BlackNew V
I really like BlackNew ROMs. I tried Energy ROMs, both on my Diamond and current Blackstone. They are pretty and full of apps, but slows down the machine a lot. And for speed and functionality is top priority
With BlackNew ROMs you get speed and some usefull apps

are the mods on holiday? they normally close these threads because they can be so contentious

Yep cant be long before the padlock cometh...We're not allowed to have a discussion about who likes which rom & why on here You've got to spend hours and hours, days and days trying them all yourself and going with the one you like, but remember not to post to tell anyone..

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are the mods on holiday? they normally close these threads because they can be so contentious
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The mods will soon type something into this thread along with this line: "thread closed"

Maybe the Mods have realized that you can't close down these types of questions, hence another one will always pop up! These forums by nature produce these comparisons, so in effect they are the root cause. Can you condemn something that you are responsible for?
I love Energy Roms...I always come back to these. They just are "eye candy", and have all the features and personalization ideas that I love...but they are really designed for the HD2 which makes them "fat" on our HD units...Eg... they are 220+ MB for a ROM footprint compared to 168MB for a KWBR rom footprint. Hence the downside to me is they are generally more sluggish COMPARED to others...but they get faster as NRG keeps cooking.
KWBR's rom is quicker, but would love to see some eye candy enhancements.
Miniterror's roms are awesome...but would love to see CHT back in.
Have not tried many of the others as these guys keep producing too much quality to send me elsewhere..
I tried Kenia's BLack V, and that was awesome!! But just could not got back to the 6.1 OS...but he did a super job blending new age enhancements with the stability and speed of the older systems.
Thanks cooks
Regards
J

I don't see the problem with other people's opinion it's like feed back in one place instead of going through each thread on the ROM have one thread with feed back for all the ROM's in one place. Just an idea..

the reason why they get closed is that everybody has a different look of how a rom should lok like and what should be included in the rom
as it are opinions there cant be decided whats the best rom
also benchmarking wont be the answer as i have read that you can set some thing that the rom becomes verry slow but benchmark scores mega high that it should be the best rom
so for me the best rom is my own
i like the colors that are in and the programs and the fact its dutch
some others could like nrg rom more as they like those colors or the startmenu at the bottom builds
it all comes down to you what you want
maybe on a side note somebody can make a spreadsheet off the roms out here with the functions the roms have like startmenu at the bottom or on top
colors or default look and stuff like that

best ..
.. is your own ROM ..

My best: Blackdragon 3 Final
I tried them all, but with a windows phone speed and stability should be top priority. You can always customise your phone to your requirements. So I vote for blackdragon by Andy, as my best rom; mainly becasue of its incredible speed and stability.

I've tried most ROMs and became a bit of an NRG fan but I think there are too many changes for me to keep up with these days. It's great to try many ROMs and see what nice toys there are and also which areas of stability you need.
Been using G10's Evo v6.00 (24001) 30.06.10 for a couple of weeks and have to say I love it. Battery and connection (UK) as well as GPS for TomTom is great so I'm sticking with this for a bit.
I'm sure some great new feature or app will tempt me to try something else in the future though.
Just flash a couple a week until you get bored (by then you'll know exactly what you want) would be my best advice

Hi there,
I my opinion these are the best 3 options:
1: [ROM][WWE][10-Jul-10] Cloudy 0.4 (WM6.1)
It's one of the fastest roms on this forum but has all the features you want. It's no "clean"rom or anything like that. I see this rom as one of the "jewels" around here. I did not detect 1 bug or glitch or anything like that while using this rom for a week now.
2: Try KWBR's rom. I am a big fan of his work and his roms are usually the most stable and also very fast.
3: Go with a wm6.5 titanium rom and if you like buy spb mobile shell and customize it the way you want. I belive ram usages will go up to around 50% while using spb so you are probably not as fast as option 1 or 2.
Good hunting!

i would say again there is no such thing best rom...
read the sticky dude...
every chef has different goal on their rom release
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- want clean roms for fast performance ( i prefer clean rom ... )
- want stable rom less bug ( for stable i prefer stock rom )
- want best look for lastest rom release ( WM 6.5 com 5 built )

I think jude1993 just wanted people's opinion to what they liked or disliked about the ROM's. I am intrested aswell. What is the best ROM is the wrong title for this thread though, Maybe it should say your opinion of the ROM's. Just an idea

I've tried loads of different roms too....Gets very tedious Loading all your programs n contacts n messages etc..
This weekend I've tried most of NRG's latest offerings, but dear god they are slow. For me anyway I use my phone for work, not to look trendy, but to run fast, stable & smooth.
I've come from Onkologs stable of roms, so its been tricky to find a modern comparison...And I much prefer 6.5 to 6.1, but not the latest bottom button builds.
For me the fastest most stable clean rom I have come across and go back to each and every time is....
Energy.BLACKSTONE.21895.Titanium.Mar.17
Needs a bit of tweaking here n there but have not found anything to touch it for speed/fluidity/stability.
Just my opinion
Mick

this is very interesting
as i've been trying out WWE 6.1, 6.5 and 6.5sth(at least 30+ times of flashing)...i'd say i eventually chose WWE 6.1 Lite Rom. The reason why to my choice is more speed, more rom capacity, and ram usage. Well, actually most cookers here did very good job as theirs roms are stable, compatiable and fast in general, appreciated! Without considering eye candy interface, WWE 6.1 is the most fastest rom compare to WWE 6.5 or up...
All in all, there's always sth i think which hardly get solved is language patch problem. Ok say like i am chinese, hk...my rom is WWE 6.1, i'd spent some certain time trying out chinese patch which i needed to read and write chinese...some cabs installed that could read and write in chinese but then while some app running that easy to get device "hang", some apps couldn't display chinese characters properly...this is i what found so far an unresolved issue...would you agree...?
thanks
cheerz

over the past 3 days i have flashed about 5 roms Im currently trying miniterror ,but i find my self wanting to go back to the energy roms more for the eye candy
before it used to be duttys roms but now im neither here or there.
But always gravitating towards Energy the Maryone roms I have tried so many times and they always feel too slow and sluggish ...

jude1993 said:
Looking for a good reliable rom, just wondering what would you say is the best rom to have on my blackstone?
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try CLoudy 2.2 COM5 or COM2... for me, this is the best ROM ever had. no issues with this ROM. retain more stock ROM... not very much added application or programmes for optimal speed

okay if there is no best rom ,, i need the fastest rom with out bugs ???
can i get this