Which one do you prefer? - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

Duttys HD Leo Holy Grail R0
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Miri WM65 21890 :: Manila 2.5 :: V 19.0
Which of these roms is more stable more responsive and gives a near to hd2 experience?

option 3: the new Topix 2.5 rom has my vote .
And to be more constructive:
Try them both out, because it is often related to the installed programs, and what you feel is important in a good rom. So it really is hard (if not impossible...) to answer your question.

i just want to know about those 2 as they have the best reviews!!

ahsan366 said:
i just want to know about those 2 as they have the best reviews!!
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Try them both out, in fact I reckon you should give topix a spin too, I reckon its the best Rom i ever installed and i must have tried around 30+ in the last 2 months or so including Dutty and Miri
Alchopop

I would add the Cloudy 1.2 rom to that list too then... Before i tried Cloudy's rom, I worked with Dutty's holy grail for a few months, but it was still a bit sluggish. Cloudy, imo, comes very close to the hd2 rom.

There is not really an answer to this question, because everyone's having different opinions in chosing a rom. The best thing for you would be to try them both, and make your own conclusion which one is "better".

Guys thanks for the answers. The thing is that you guys test all sort of roms so i thought that maybe it will save time. Please all of you if you can elaborate and explain with reasons why you think the rom you have said is the best. Do all the features work or you have to patch them up from here and there?

waiting the thread to be closed.......

+1, please close this thread. This is a very stupid question and like it said there is no answer.

To the OP and based on my limited testing. I tried the Holly Grail a number of months ago and at the time it really was the Holly Grail. It was probably the best and most fully featured Leo rom of the time. I have tried Miris Leo ROM 17 and although it was very good and very well featured, it did hang on me a number of times. As I understand it, I should of carried out a number of tweaks to get the thing working correctly (note to self read the thread). Version 19 is certainly the later of the two and as I understand it features many improvements that resolve bugs, add new features and improve performance. For me my next step was to test Miri's 19 Leo. I think there are still extra steps that need to be performed to get it running 100%, something to do with rilphone.dll I think, but nothing too serious.
Take note MIRI has a number of different versions with different performance implications. As I understand it, the version with HTC messaging can slow performance, but on the other hand features HTC messaging
Hope this helps.

Your asking for users to choose between 2 roms. Some are going to say 1, some 2
Everyone has different opinions. End result may be in favour of one other the other, but you may dsiagree after trying both
Best advice try both and make your own conclusion
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p.s. opinionated threads are frowned upon in XDA and are generally closed asap as they create endless long debates

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Advice for good roms with Leo Interface

Ok,
All my time with the Touch HD, I always used roms from Dutty, never tried from others. I like them cause there's few bugs on them, are always very stable and specially cause Dutty keeps and update almost every default in-built software that comes with the original roms.
But now, I'm a little disappointed with Dutty's roms, in particularity the roms with Leo interface, ie. manila 2.5, that are pledged with some bugs and in particularly don't even have Videocalls.
Can anyone give me an advise to an alternative to Dutty rom's ?
I would like to know what are the best roms with Leo interface and more importantly, that keep the default built-in programs (but always updated), for other words, are not stripped down (like the ones from Dutty)
Any hint would be great.
try miris ROM. one of them has manilla 2.6 running on windows mobile 6.1 and is supposed to be much faster.
think the thread is going to be closed as it is something personal
i can only say look at my signature what im using
I'm not asking anything personal, I'm asking a good rom with Leo interface and most important, to have all or most of the default in-build apps like the official roms.
Does Miri's rom have all or most of the default in-build apps (updated of course) like the official roms?
youre asking a good leobased rom that is for everyone different there for oure asking an opinion based question and yes miri has that
try to look at the first pages most of them have written down what they have in there rom
basically, there is no right answer, just what people like. this might aswell be a "whats your favourite ROM" thread which does little more than clutter the forum.
back to the topic though, i suggest you try them all (there are only 3 or so). could probably test them all in half an hour.
get miri 7.1
I've tested a couple of the latest Leo roms and the only thing you have to take into consideration is to REMEMBER that they are all in beta.
From my perspective they ALL run like crap for daily use. They are interesting to try out, but they are also more frustrating and slow to use and not worth the sleek new interfaces. Using any 6.1 rom is going to run much better
muhahahhahhahha...great thread here really awesome contribution and totally original question.
Hi onesolo, after been using almost all of Dutty's Rom's, when I moved to 6.5, the R2 was giving me some problems, and then decided to try PDAVIET. For now I'm pleased but still get the same problem as Dutty's with the SMS question, not sure if it's the same problem for everyone, but as you know here (PT) we can send an 160 caract. sms, and with this new 6.5 Rom I can't get out of the UNICODE and the lenght of the sms just passed to 70 caract.
But nevertheless I think it's stable and worth a big try.
Ok, ok, I can see another anoying thing, that is the memory use, if you have two or more programs open it may reach 70%.
With the good old Dutty's, would be hard to get there,
Ciao, até logo.
Jo
Plnety of roms out there with your requests. You just need to search. As stated above everyone has there own opinions on which roms best suit them as well as their own personal favourite chef, so would normally nominate them.
Best advice would be read title of each rom thread, research 1st post of each thread, see how others like this rom and then try it to make your own conclusion
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Best ROM available

Hello everyone
I'd like to know what are you opnion about the best rom available for the Blackstone.
Wich one is more stable, fast, less batt consumer!!!
Please let everyone know what are you running into your devices...
Thanks
Before lockout of this thread I reveal you that I have Miri's v.18 inside
Personal Choice
fabioabud said:
Hello everyone
I'd like to know what are you opnion about the best rom available for the Blackstone.
Wich one is more stable, fast, less batt consumer!!!
Please let everyone know what are you running into your devices...
Thanks
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This will be closed very fast. Been asked many times but usually what works for me may not for you so really a personal choice thing. Try a few and see for yourself.
Goodluck.
I was in the same situation as you a few months back - I got pointed in the direction of a Dutty ROM by a work colleague, and I ended up trying a few EnergyROMs before settling with Topix which I reckon is very quick, but maybe not everyone's cup of tea.
So to pretty much mirror what BlueAnt said, only you can decide if a ROM is good for what you use your phone for.
I like Miri's ROMs because they are mostly 'clean' - it's up to me what applications/settings I put on, if any.
Everybody knows!!!
Everyone knows that Miri is the best (speed + smoth + stock) rom and Xannytech the most kind and complete, but nobody likes to say it to keep other chefs trying good roms ...
Marne Jr said:
Everyone knows that Miri is the best (speed + smoth + stock) rom and Xannytech the most kind and complete, but nobody likes to say it to keep other chefs trying good roms ...
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Also the energyroms are great. Very complete and would be perfect if they can inscrease a little bit of speed...
BlueAnt1958 said:
This will be closed very fast. Been asked many times but usually what works for me may not for you so really a personal choice thing. Try a few and see for yourself.
Goodluck.
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Hello
I'm from Brasil and bought my HD in France in the end of 12/2008.
Since then I'm flashing ROMs - most from Duttys.
The last one I flashed and still using is Leo Holy Grail R0 - Dutty's last rom for HD.
I starterd this trhead hopping to know if there is any new ROM that may worth the time of flashing again, as I think most of the guys here and like my self are flash addict .
I've been reading some posts and I'm intend to flash from Miri and Laurentius.
What do you guys think about these two ROMs and compare to Duttys??
Thanks again to everyone.
Miris roms fast stable
Xannytech fully with features and fine stablety
I recomend XannyTech GridEvo 2.4 21885.
Its really good..
Just test..
No such thing as best rom. Everyone has different tastes. I suggest you read a few threads and then try a few roms to make your own conclusion on which is best for you
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Which Rom because there are so many.. Thank You

Good Morning people,
After beeing a long time with an iphone, i got an Htc HD running on original WM 6.1.. Before the iphone, i got Qtek 2020 and S100 flashed.
A few years ago, there were not so many roms available so it was easy to choose one. But now lol I see so many releazes and different opinions
That's why, i write this little topic in order to ask wich rom to inject in My Htc HD blackstone.
Actually, My SPL is 1.54 with rom version 1.56.406.1 (43972) FRE
Radio version is 1.13.25.24
protocole version : 52.62.25.34U
Can you pleaze advice me wich latest rom based on WM6.5 to inject ? i see manila and some others but...
In fact, what i would like is to update from WM6.1 to 6.5 running smooth and stable.
Thank you for your help and have a nice day allzz
yabadabado said:
Good Morning people,
After beeing a long time with an iphone, i got an Htc HD running on original WM 6.1.. Before the iphone, i got Qtek 2020 and S100 flashed.
A few years ago, there were not so many roms available so it was easy to choose one. But now lol I see so many releazes and different opinions
That's why, i write this little topic in order to ask wich rom to inject in My Htc HD blackstone.
Actually, My SPL is 1.54 with rom version 1.56.406.1 (43972) FRE
Radio version is 1.13.25.24
protocole version : 52.62.25.34U
Can you pleaze advice me wich latest rom based on WM6.5 to inject ? i see manila and some others but...
In fact, what i would like is to update from WM6.1 to 6.5 running smooth and stable.
Thank you for your help and have a nice day allzz
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Well.... The latest fastest, stablest and also running smooth and having no drain battery fast issues are from my point of view the Miri V38 with Manila 2.1. Sure, it is an WM 6.5 21893 Build, which is in the meanwhile a little bit old, but for daily use, it is perfect. Only sad thing is, that Miri decided to ride off from the HD ROMs and go over to burn HD2 ROMs.. But it was very stable ROM.... Thinking to switch back to them...
Hi,
Many, many, many threads have been posted about this topic and like you said yourself it's all personal, so there is really no good answer.
I can tell from my own expereience that most of the new roms are (almost) completely bug free (at least the real annoying bugs). I suggest you pick a few of the popular rom-threads and read the latest post to see what other people think of those roms.
There are two versions beeing cooked lately: the 5.2.91*** and 2.3.5**. I believe the first ones is at it's end of development and is very stable. The last one is a bit more finger friendly (buttons all below), is also fairly stable, but in my opinion a little bit slower then the first series.
To give you a little advice (but this is personal): I like Topix because of the stability, speed, fluity, low memory usage and battery time. I tried almost all the roms and I must say that the "Energy", "G10", "Mineterror", "Miri" and Dusk-evo roms are all good........aargh, who am I kidding, they are ALL good, so start reading, test a few and you decide what you like best.
How to flash is over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
Good luck!
You've already got a couple of helpful posts which I feel is already too many
Opinionated threads are frowned upon in XDA as they create endless long threads due to each user having different opinions on which is best due to everyone having different tastes, i.e. what I like, you may not etc etc
If you're looking for the best one, then as a rule of thumb try flashing the roms in the threads which are used most often as surely these people cannot all be wrong
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What is the most stable / bugfree ROM available

I use my phone constantly and find even the AT&T stock ROM is not stable. I reboot nearly every day which in itself wouldn't be a problem if I could just reboot in the morning and forget it. However, randomly the ROM gets very very slow and I have to reboot and nearly always just when I need it. I don't need a lot of flash or extras though a little speed boost would be nice. I can install the few extra applications that I need. What I really need is a good, stable ROM.
Any suggestions?
There are lots of good ROMs here. But everyone uses their phone differently. Try one out and see how it goes for you.
verge said:
I use my phone constantly and find even the AT&T stock ROM is not stable. I reboot nearly every day which in itself wouldn't be a problem if I could just reboot in the morning and forget it. However, randomly the ROM gets very very slow and I have to reboot and nearly always just when I need it. I don't need a lot of flash or extras though a little speed boost would be nice. I can install the few extra applications that I need. What I really need is a good, stable ROM.
Any suggestions?
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Mod seem to close these questions very quickly.
But I like to say that I have tried them all and seem to always revert back to Josh's 1.7 (with Sense 2.1) which can be found here....
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/RhodiumFiles/Roms/Joshkoss/1.7_Full_Final.7z
Thanks but ...
I appreciate your input steviewevie but I am doing something not everyone here does ... actually looking for some opinions.
Josh 1.7 Or Jackos OldSchool
I've tried pretty much every GSM ROM out there for my TP2. The most stable with the most available RAM and fastest speed goes out to Jackos Old School 1.1 ROM without a doubt.
I think there should be a new monthly thread poll open for the 1st week of every month with this exact question.
I can understand how the veterans get sick of this and clutter up things.
On the other hand, I can appreciate having the information available. It is frustrating to search and only find locked threads.
Please mods, take me up on this idea, or at least some version of it.
I wish I had time to flash 10 different ROMs to see which is most stable and fits my needs. Let's leave that up to the people that have time, and allow them to summarize their findings via a regular poll.
Thank you
I find my ROM to be quite stable.
I should release it one of these days.
Would you like to be my exclusive BETA tester?
Deep Shining very good.. Ive tried them all
Deep shining is a very good ROM.. I've tried em all .
I have tried just about every cook and i would have to say eras2r makes the most stable ROM for the rhodium.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585403
This is the only ROM that i have flashed that never crashes or freezes EVER. i have been using bug free windows mobile for almost a year now
Personally, I find EnergyROM to be my favourite. I know you don't want loads of extras but EnergyROM is very very smooth and looks very nice and then you have those extras to play around with when you get bored!
I have been using Energy with Cookie HomeTab 28th May 2010 verison, and works very well.
Very fast rom, even loads and runs Copilot8 without issues, which is more than the HTC 6.5 rom did.
I agree. Mods, why not put up a mini site with a list of ROMs available - such as a "marketplace" and then let users rank and comment with feedback. I've spent a week searching through all of this trying to figure out which way to go. I can't just flash a ROM, get it all customized, then 2 weeks later do it again. I actually have to use the phone to work. At the very least this would allow people to rule out certain ROMs based on their needs.
Ranking a ROM is so objective... Some users expect features, others speed and all the all business users a reliable ROM is a must. Maybe there should be a "stars-voting" system that allows the user to vote for speed, stability, futures, eye-candy etc.?
Anyway I think that a pinned thread with a ROM index would be enough. Just a basic info + developers comment.
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Ranking a ROM is so objective... Some users expect features, others speed and all the all business users a reliable ROM is a must. Maybe there should be a "stars-voting" system that allows the user to vote for speed, stability, futures, eye-candy etc.?
Anyway I think that a pinned thread with a ROM index would be enough. Just a basic info + developers comment.
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I'm not sure that would help, each entry would be the same:
Content: "list of contents"
Comment: "Best ROM out there - ever"
The contents would change, but the comments wouldn't!
Yeah, because people are too cocksure. I would never call my rom "better" or even "the best". I thought about the chief description as a short note what are goals for each rom.
Ach, and one screenshot would be nice too.
Jackos said:
Yeah, because people are too cocksure. I would never call my rom "better" or even "the best". I thought about the chief description as a short note what are goals for each rom.
Ach, and one screenshot would be nice too.
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My comment was tongue-in-cheek, but honestly, wouldn't you want the Chef of your ROM to be working on having the absolute best ROM out there? Otherwise he/she would not have very much motivation. Think about it:
"Yup, my ROM is OK, but not the best"
Not a ROM I would try...
So make sure you never try my roms
I think that a rom is a personal combination of programs/skins that fit the chief. But that's just my thought
I saw a guy that said something like that: "Asking on xda what's the best rom is like going to a bar and asking with beer is the best". Different persons, different ROM experiences All about taste.
Jackos said:
So make sure you never try my roms
I think that a rom is a personal combination of programs/skins that fit the chief. But that's just my thought
I saw a guy that said something like that: "Asking on xda what's the best rom is like going to a bar and asking with beer is the best". Different persons, different ROM experiences All about taste.
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Myself, I always look for the ROM that "Taste's great, less filling".
toadlife said:
I find my ROM to be quite stable.
I should release it one of these days.
Would you like to be my exclusive BETA tester?
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Toadlife? You're alive and you have a TP2??? Hahah, I remember when you released your kitchen for the Wing, those were the days

What would you say is the best rom?

Looking for a good reliable rom, just wondering what would you say is the best rom to have on my blackstone?
the clean rom ist the best and the fastest rom on xda.
the top version is better than the bottom version.
==> try clean rom top version 1
http://www.multiupload.com/IK64V7SC7D
BlackNew V
I really like BlackNew ROMs. I tried Energy ROMs, both on my Diamond and current Blackstone. They are pretty and full of apps, but slows down the machine a lot. And for speed and functionality is top priority
With BlackNew ROMs you get speed and some usefull apps
are the mods on holiday? they normally close these threads because they can be so contentious
Yep cant be long before the padlock cometh...We're not allowed to have a discussion about who likes which rom & why on here You've got to spend hours and hours, days and days trying them all yourself and going with the one you like, but remember not to post to tell anyone..
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are the mods on holiday? they normally close these threads because they can be so contentious
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The mods will soon type something into this thread along with this line: "thread closed"
Maybe the Mods have realized that you can't close down these types of questions, hence another one will always pop up! These forums by nature produce these comparisons, so in effect they are the root cause. Can you condemn something that you are responsible for?
I love Energy Roms...I always come back to these. They just are "eye candy", and have all the features and personalization ideas that I love...but they are really designed for the HD2 which makes them "fat" on our HD units...Eg... they are 220+ MB for a ROM footprint compared to 168MB for a KWBR rom footprint. Hence the downside to me is they are generally more sluggish COMPARED to others...but they get faster as NRG keeps cooking.
KWBR's rom is quicker, but would love to see some eye candy enhancements.
Miniterror's roms are awesome...but would love to see CHT back in.
Have not tried many of the others as these guys keep producing too much quality to send me elsewhere..
I tried Kenia's BLack V, and that was awesome!! But just could not got back to the 6.1 OS...but he did a super job blending new age enhancements with the stability and speed of the older systems.
Thanks cooks
Regards
J
I don't see the problem with other people's opinion it's like feed back in one place instead of going through each thread on the ROM have one thread with feed back for all the ROM's in one place. Just an idea..
the reason why they get closed is that everybody has a different look of how a rom should lok like and what should be included in the rom
as it are opinions there cant be decided whats the best rom
also benchmarking wont be the answer as i have read that you can set some thing that the rom becomes verry slow but benchmark scores mega high that it should be the best rom
so for me the best rom is my own
i like the colors that are in and the programs and the fact its dutch
some others could like nrg rom more as they like those colors or the startmenu at the bottom builds
it all comes down to you what you want
maybe on a side note somebody can make a spreadsheet off the roms out here with the functions the roms have like startmenu at the bottom or on top
colors or default look and stuff like that
best ..
.. is your own ROM ..
My best: Blackdragon 3 Final
I tried them all, but with a windows phone speed and stability should be top priority. You can always customise your phone to your requirements. So I vote for blackdragon by Andy, as my best rom; mainly becasue of its incredible speed and stability.
I've tried most ROMs and became a bit of an NRG fan but I think there are too many changes for me to keep up with these days. It's great to try many ROMs and see what nice toys there are and also which areas of stability you need.
Been using G10's Evo v6.00 (24001) 30.06.10 for a couple of weeks and have to say I love it. Battery and connection (UK) as well as GPS for TomTom is great so I'm sticking with this for a bit.
I'm sure some great new feature or app will tempt me to try something else in the future though.
Just flash a couple a week until you get bored (by then you'll know exactly what you want) would be my best advice
Hi there,
I my opinion these are the best 3 options:
1: [ROM][WWE][10-Jul-10] Cloudy 0.4 (WM6.1)
It's one of the fastest roms on this forum but has all the features you want. It's no "clean"rom or anything like that. I see this rom as one of the "jewels" around here. I did not detect 1 bug or glitch or anything like that while using this rom for a week now.
2: Try KWBR's rom. I am a big fan of his work and his roms are usually the most stable and also very fast.
3: Go with a wm6.5 titanium rom and if you like buy spb mobile shell and customize it the way you want. I belive ram usages will go up to around 50% while using spb so you are probably not as fast as option 1 or 2.
Good hunting!
i would say again there is no such thing best rom...
read the sticky dude...
every chef has different goal on their rom release
exp
- want clean roms for fast performance ( i prefer clean rom ... )
- want stable rom less bug ( for stable i prefer stock rom )
- want best look for lastest rom release ( WM 6.5 com 5 built )
I think jude1993 just wanted people's opinion to what they liked or disliked about the ROM's. I am intrested aswell. What is the best ROM is the wrong title for this thread though, Maybe it should say your opinion of the ROM's. Just an idea
I've tried loads of different roms too....Gets very tedious Loading all your programs n contacts n messages etc..
This weekend I've tried most of NRG's latest offerings, but dear god they are slow. For me anyway I use my phone for work, not to look trendy, but to run fast, stable & smooth.
I've come from Onkologs stable of roms, so its been tricky to find a modern comparison...And I much prefer 6.5 to 6.1, but not the latest bottom button builds.
For me the fastest most stable clean rom I have come across and go back to each and every time is....
Energy.BLACKSTONE.21895.Titanium.Mar.17
Needs a bit of tweaking here n there but have not found anything to touch it for speed/fluidity/stability.
Just my opinion
Mick
this is very interesting
as i've been trying out WWE 6.1, 6.5 and 6.5sth(at least 30+ times of flashing)...i'd say i eventually chose WWE 6.1 Lite Rom. The reason why to my choice is more speed, more rom capacity, and ram usage. Well, actually most cookers here did very good job as theirs roms are stable, compatiable and fast in general, appreciated! Without considering eye candy interface, WWE 6.1 is the most fastest rom compare to WWE 6.5 or up...
All in all, there's always sth i think which hardly get solved is language patch problem. Ok say like i am chinese, hk...my rom is WWE 6.1, i'd spent some certain time trying out chinese patch which i needed to read and write chinese...some cabs installed that could read and write in chinese but then while some app running that easy to get device "hang", some apps couldn't display chinese characters properly...this is i what found so far an unresolved issue...would you agree...?
thanks
cheerz
over the past 3 days i have flashed about 5 roms Im currently trying miniterror ,but i find my self wanting to go back to the energy roms more for the eye candy
before it used to be duttys roms but now im neither here or there.
But always gravitating towards Energy the Maryone roms I have tried so many times and they always feel too slow and sluggish ...
jude1993 said:
Looking for a good reliable rom, just wondering what would you say is the best rom to have on my blackstone?
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try CLoudy 2.2 COM5 or COM2... for me, this is the best ROM ever had. no issues with this ROM. retain more stock ROM... not very much added application or programmes for optimal speed
okay if there is no best rom ,, i need the fastest rom with out bugs ???
can i get this

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