I use my phone constantly and find even the AT&T stock ROM is not stable. I reboot nearly every day which in itself wouldn't be a problem if I could just reboot in the morning and forget it. However, randomly the ROM gets very very slow and I have to reboot and nearly always just when I need it. I don't need a lot of flash or extras though a little speed boost would be nice. I can install the few extra applications that I need. What I really need is a good, stable ROM.
Any suggestions?
There are lots of good ROMs here. But everyone uses their phone differently. Try one out and see how it goes for you.
verge said:
I use my phone constantly and find even the AT&T stock ROM is not stable. I reboot nearly every day which in itself wouldn't be a problem if I could just reboot in the morning and forget it. However, randomly the ROM gets very very slow and I have to reboot and nearly always just when I need it. I don't need a lot of flash or extras though a little speed boost would be nice. I can install the few extra applications that I need. What I really need is a good, stable ROM.
Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mod seem to close these questions very quickly.
But I like to say that I have tried them all and seem to always revert back to Josh's 1.7 (with Sense 2.1) which can be found here....
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/RhodiumFiles/Roms/Joshkoss/1.7_Full_Final.7z
Thanks but ...
I appreciate your input steviewevie but I am doing something not everyone here does ... actually looking for some opinions.
Josh 1.7 Or Jackos OldSchool
I've tried pretty much every GSM ROM out there for my TP2. The most stable with the most available RAM and fastest speed goes out to Jackos Old School 1.1 ROM without a doubt.
I think there should be a new monthly thread poll open for the 1st week of every month with this exact question.
I can understand how the veterans get sick of this and clutter up things.
On the other hand, I can appreciate having the information available. It is frustrating to search and only find locked threads.
Please mods, take me up on this idea, or at least some version of it.
I wish I had time to flash 10 different ROMs to see which is most stable and fits my needs. Let's leave that up to the people that have time, and allow them to summarize their findings via a regular poll.
Thank you
I find my ROM to be quite stable.
I should release it one of these days.
Would you like to be my exclusive BETA tester?
Deep Shining very good.. Ive tried them all
Deep shining is a very good ROM.. I've tried em all .
I have tried just about every cook and i would have to say eras2r makes the most stable ROM for the rhodium.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585403
This is the only ROM that i have flashed that never crashes or freezes EVER. i have been using bug free windows mobile for almost a year now
Personally, I find EnergyROM to be my favourite. I know you don't want loads of extras but EnergyROM is very very smooth and looks very nice and then you have those extras to play around with when you get bored!
I have been using Energy with Cookie HomeTab 28th May 2010 verison, and works very well.
Very fast rom, even loads and runs Copilot8 without issues, which is more than the HTC 6.5 rom did.
I agree. Mods, why not put up a mini site with a list of ROMs available - such as a "marketplace" and then let users rank and comment with feedback. I've spent a week searching through all of this trying to figure out which way to go. I can't just flash a ROM, get it all customized, then 2 weeks later do it again. I actually have to use the phone to work. At the very least this would allow people to rule out certain ROMs based on their needs.
Ranking a ROM is so objective... Some users expect features, others speed and all the all business users a reliable ROM is a must. Maybe there should be a "stars-voting" system that allows the user to vote for speed, stability, futures, eye-candy etc.?
Anyway I think that a pinned thread with a ROM index would be enough. Just a basic info + developers comment.
Jackos said:
Ranking a ROM is so objective... Some users expect features, others speed and all the all business users a reliable ROM is a must. Maybe there should be a "stars-voting" system that allows the user to vote for speed, stability, futures, eye-candy etc.?
Anyway I think that a pinned thread with a ROM index would be enough. Just a basic info + developers comment.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure that would help, each entry would be the same:
Content: "list of contents"
Comment: "Best ROM out there - ever"
The contents would change, but the comments wouldn't!
Yeah, because people are too cocksure. I would never call my rom "better" or even "the best". I thought about the chief description as a short note what are goals for each rom.
Ach, and one screenshot would be nice too.
Jackos said:
Yeah, because people are too cocksure. I would never call my rom "better" or even "the best". I thought about the chief description as a short note what are goals for each rom.
Ach, and one screenshot would be nice too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My comment was tongue-in-cheek, but honestly, wouldn't you want the Chef of your ROM to be working on having the absolute best ROM out there? Otherwise he/she would not have very much motivation. Think about it:
"Yup, my ROM is OK, but not the best"
Not a ROM I would try...
So make sure you never try my roms
I think that a rom is a personal combination of programs/skins that fit the chief. But that's just my thought
I saw a guy that said something like that: "Asking on xda what's the best rom is like going to a bar and asking with beer is the best". Different persons, different ROM experiences All about taste.
Jackos said:
So make sure you never try my roms
I think that a rom is a personal combination of programs/skins that fit the chief. But that's just my thought
I saw a guy that said something like that: "Asking on xda what's the best rom is like going to a bar and asking with beer is the best". Different persons, different ROM experiences All about taste.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Myself, I always look for the ROM that "Taste's great, less filling".
toadlife said:
I find my ROM to be quite stable.
I should release it one of these days.
Would you like to be my exclusive BETA tester?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Toadlife? You're alive and you have a TP2??? Hahah, I remember when you released your kitchen for the Wing, those were the days
Related
Q: Why are the chefs using beta software to cook roms?
I got really frustrated by the stability issues of some roms. Some i liked, they were unstable... some were stable but i did not like them.
I've just started cooking and i realized that MANY things can go wrong. So my question is...
IS THERE any thought, any real reason, behind using BETA leaked software in a rom??
Back in the S100(Magician) days... there were fewer leakes and things were stable. You actually could choose from 3-4 stable roms.
Also the wikis are a mess... i used to visit them first and i will try to help fix them.
Before the final ver there is always a trial and error ver..
If you ask for final ver then go to SEUS
Give respect to people who have given time to make a ROM ..
samov said:
Q: Why are the chefs using beta software to cook roms?
I got really frustrated by the stability issues of some roms. Some i liked, they were unstable... some were stable but i did not like them.
I've just started cooking and i realized that MANY things can go wrong. So my question is...
IS THERE any thought, any real reason, behind using BETA leaked software in a rom??
Back in the S100(Magician) days... there were fewer leakes and things were stable. You actually could choose from 3-4 stable roms.
Also the wikis are a mess... i used to visit them first and i will try to help fix them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
samov said:
Q: Why are the chefs using beta software to cook roms?
I got really frustrated by the stability issues of some roms. Some i liked, they were unstable... some were stable but i did not like them.
I've just started cooking and i realized that MANY things can go wrong. So my question is...
IS THERE any thought, any real reason, behind using BETA leaked software in a rom??
Back in the S100(Magician) days... there were fewer leakes and things were stable. You actually could choose from 3-4 stable roms.
Also the wikis are a mess... i used to visit them first and i will try to help fix them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whats that I see off in the distance??? Chef's gathering and asking each other....if you listen carefully you can hear them.......ready for it.....'huh?'
Why would one want to flash ROMs off of released software? The 'fun' in all of this ....is newness....trying parts here and there and seeing what you come up with. If you wanted release software, why flash?? If, IF, stability is your primary concern....flash back to the original and don't worry about it.
But....if you're wondering what Itje will do tomorrow...or how will Agent work out that issue, or just how fast NRG can make his ROMs, or what new combination the chef's here will come up with....then come back tomorrow and feast your eyes.....cause it only gets exciting when the software is new, and the challenge is great and the ideas flow...and the questions get asked.
Hmmmm....TF3D...on an iPhone.....hahahah....nahhhhh
hey alodar1 well put
Question is why are there 40 threads like this... Especially when stable roms exist already.
papped said:
Question is why are there 40 threads like this... Especially when stable roms exist already.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Answer is: ignorance (whoops )
you'll never know the water is cold till you dip in it
It's because we all want the newest shizzle from everything. That's why we flash custom roms. I mean why should we cook with old stuff when we can get such things from SEUS? If something is already released and stable there is no need for custom roms anymore since it will be on SEUS. The thing I like about cooking is to get the newest stuff cook it in and try to fix everything as good as possible. So if you don't understand this you maybe better get an iphone or just go to SEUS and download the latest stock rom. Wondering what you preferre
Amen
killer8nl said:
It's because we all want the newest shizzle from everything. That's why we flash custom roms. I mean why should we cook with old stuff when we can get such things from SEUS? If something is already released and stable there is no need for custom roms anymore since it will be on SEUS. The thing I like about cooking is to get the newest stuff cook it in and try to fix everything as good as possible. So if you don't understand this you maybe better get an iphone or just go to SEUS and download the latest stock rom. Wondering what you preferre
Amen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A big thank you goes out to everyone that took me seriously and posted an answear. To all others, i think trying the latest and greatest does not justify the huge amount of bugs in so called stable roms.
Most roms take a full 3-5 sec to change a song... and there is no end to end experience using it.
In the meantime i found about the only version that is 100% usable in real life conditions.
Smaberg's Touch X 10.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493848&highlight=touch
Regards.
samov said:
A big thank you goes out to everyone that took me seriously and posted an answear. To all others, i think trying the latest and greatest does not justify the huge amount of bugs in so called stable roms.
Most roms take a full 3-5 sec to change a song... and there is no end to end experience using it.
In the meantime i found about the only version that is 100% usable in real life conditions.
Smaberg's Touch X 10.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493848&highlight=touch
Regards.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"So called stable" doesn't mean bug free. But I think all cheffs do their best. It's just the choice of the user what rom he/she will use and like.
why chefs are using beta roms? <<<<if this is his question, then he should realize that there are no downloads anywhere online where you would download a final build of wm 6.5, the same way you would download windows xp, vista or 7......but my question is, is there a final wm 6.5???? wm 6.1 became final weeks ago, so where is 6.5 now???? hmmm i think you should do some research before bashing chefs who enjoy doing what they do
the betas were leaked dude, you need to relax, a chef can only cook what is available,
also wm 6.5 is not even out of beta stages IMO, every single build has a bug, even the ones that are in the official ads by the real makers, u can tell bcos the battery icon is still not positioned properly as in 6.1
the official R3A rom from SEUS also has at least one bug i can point to you, and that's official, so back to your question, whats your question again?
samov said:
A big thank you goes out to everyone that took me seriously and posted an answear. To all others, i think trying the latest and greatest does not justify the huge amount of bugs in so called stable roms.
Most roms take a full 3-5 sec to change a song... and there is no end to end experience using it.
In the meantime i found about the only version that is 100% usable in real life conditions.
Smaberg's Touch X 10.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493848&highlight=touch
Regards.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
but you misunderstand...we do take you serious,,,,very serious. Well..right up to the 100% reliable statement. It goes like this. It all depends on your likes, needs, and tastes.
I too am a Smaberg fan. But he uses a released OS, and changes the wrappers. Thats like changing your tie...should I wear blue today or the Red one with stripes. He does(did) a GREAT job.
But the 6.5 ROMs...all new...all different, so many varieties. Pick one you like...or not. But...in 6 months....building a 6.5 ROM will be like...Smabergs ROMs...which tie should I wear today. Great work...but.....not new.
People who flash here, stability maybe in their top 5 concerns...but probably not 1, or 2. they ride bikes downhill at full spead...or at least want to. They have more beta products that actual release products. NO ONE here flashes a ROM expecting it work perfect because they have a huge business trip tomorrow. They only HOPE it will be perfect...because if it is...they will have the coolest thing in the room.
there is no medicine to fix these symtoms....only new ROMs
Do not thing we do not take you serious....we do....we just don't understand your question.
killer8nl said:
"So called stable" doesn't mean bug free. But I think all cheffs do their best. It's just the choice of the user what rom he/she will use and like.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, bugs usually show up dependent on usage and how critical they are varies on what a person cares about. So you're "stable" might not be someone else's stable and vice versa.
Because people like me exist..
Speaking for myself.. My X1 was just getting boring until of course I learned I could flash the rom with the latest thing people are talking about but don't have... WOW!! My phone became exciting again..
These chefs are the coolest.. I toggle between the different roms from the credible chefs and that 'need for new' on my budget is quenched... <Donations to come (promise) >
Someone once said "If you don’t risk anything, you risk even more."
welldone to our chefs
I strongly believe that we can only progress in life by trying new ideas and stuffs. so i will say a big welldone to all the chefs for all their time and devotion they've dedicated to these roms we keep flashing. Trully without these so called beta roms, the x1 would have been the worst phone i believe, ever produced by sonyericsson. i have had all the se P series, and then thought that the X1 was going to be the icing on the cake. that never happened. certainly personally is was product i've ever spend so much money on. fortunately i found this website, and it rescued me. i keep flashing my phone with new roms. it is as if i have a new phone all the time. so please leave the chefs alone. stay with the se stable rom. Again welldone to all the chefs.
divinetong said:
I strongly believe that we can only progress in life by trying new ideas and stuffs. so i will say a big welldone to all the chefs for all their time and devotion they've dedicated to these roms we keep flashing. Trully without these so called beta roms, the x1 would have been the worst phone i believe, ever produced by sonyericsson. i have had all the se P series, and then thought that the X1 was going to be the icing on the cake. that never happened. certainly personally is was product i've ever spend so much money on. fortunately i found this website, and it rescued me. i keep flashing my phone with new roms. it is as if i have a new phone all the time. so please leave the chefs alone. stay with the se stable rom. Again welldone to all the chefs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
because of xda and these great chefs, my X1 is yet the most exciting phone i ever had in 12 years since i first used a cell/mobile phone.
without them, X1 coudlve been just another phone
so kudos to all chefs!
Okay, so I finally gave up my Wizard for Tmo's Touch Pro 2. I had a cooked rom on my Wizard that was bare-bones but wicked stable and fast. I am a mom who has to juggle PTA, games and other social activities with doc appointments and banking, etc...I want a rom that is responsive, fast, crazy stable, good on battery life and without a lot of bells and whistles. I prefer to add the apps I need and leave the rest behind. What custom rom would you suggest for me? I have read the various tutorials about unlocking and flashing the Rhodium, and am not new to using cooked rom...just new to the device. Also if there any tricks to make using the device better/fun, I'd love to hear them. Thank you for you advice, and I hope to become a contributor in this section, and get to know all of you here.
A moment of silence please while I lay my Wizard to rest... *taps plays in the background*
akashastrega said:
]I want a rom that is responsive, fast, crazy stable, good on battery life and without a lot of bells and whistles.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
energyROM 21869 with manila 2.1 is your best bet... stay away from the newer 6.5.1 builds. i do like flashing the newest and checking it out, but stable is where its at and the 21869 builds have been refined for quite a while now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585403
This is the ATT Rom that got stretched out to the bare bones and got optimized by speed.
The chief has some cabs in there that will optimize it even more.
-I suggest putting on the cab to disable push for internet because you free up 10MB of RAM.
-And then install the 3G coverage in the comm manager so you can disable 3G when you are not using it. This will up the batter life.
My RAM with nothing running ranges from 55 to 60 percent.
Good to know, I appreciate the responses and welcome any input anyone else has to offer. Thank you again for the help.
My usual response....ROM is personal choice, it all depends on what you install in your phone, and what you use your phone for! Best choice will be read and flash...
as ndn715 said, id recommend Energy's 'photon' ROM. Fast reliable but with a hint of class
The 'Leo' version of this ROM is a lot more buggy and i found it bogs down a bit, being because it was originally designed for the Leo with a much faster processor
ai6908 said:
My usual response....ROM is personal choice, it all depends on what you install in your phone, and what you use your phone for! Best choice will be read and flash...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you...and I do understand that. I was just trying to find a jumping off point so that I don't blow through 50 roms that have too much junk on them when what I want is pretty vanilla. It seems that the Photon rom seems to be the one to start off with and go from there...and reading about the rom, and the chef, it seems that it has been tested specifically for speed and stability which is really important to me.
My next question is this...there does not seem to be a dedicated wiki for this...or perhaps I have somehow managed to miss it...but before I flash my phone, I'd love to get a copy of Tmo's stock rom. Since Tmo has changed their website, I am not finding a stock rom (as I was able to do years ago with my Wizard)...so does anyone have a copy of Tmo's stock rom? This way if I need to exchange the phone for any reason, it is not completely obvious that I voided my warranty by modifying the phone.
Again, I appreciate everyone's input and welcome and thank you for any future advice that can be offered.
Welcome!
Before you give the Proton ROM a run (excellent choice btw), you might like to take a look at this one too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938
There's a light version that might suit your needs - I run the full vesrion and it hasn't missed a beat.
Happy flashing!
ndn715 said:
energyROM 21869 with manila 2.1 is your best bet... stay away from the newer 6.5.1 builds. i do like flashing the newest and checking it out, but stable is where its at and the 21869 builds have been refined for quite a while now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no.. download EnergyROM Nov. 8th (21864/WM6.5/TF2.1).. its better OTB
cr1960 said:
Welcome!
Before you give the Proton ROM a run (excellent choice btw), you might like to take a look at this one too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938
There's a light version that might suit your needs - I run the full vesrion and it hasn't missed a beat.
Happy flashing!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hehe i second this one
but yea, biases aside! rom is personal choice... i do have to close the thread as there are many many roms you can go through and find the best for you.
@akashastrega i wish you the best and hope you find a rom that fits you, ship me a pm if your still in the mood for coockin your own roms i got a kitch for ya to try
Peace,
Josh
What I miss at this forum, is a ROM with a honest, complete list of known bugs/non-working stuff.
Would like to see some quality-control, and know what I install - before I do.
Everybody is cooking ROM's (and that's nice) but there's no way to know how they will work before trying.
-its impossible to read thru >200 posts and figure out which of those are about the current version.
-recent posts are sometimes about earlier versions too...
Please: I hope some of you that des this nice job will focus on information about quality, and keep a "buglist" for each version..
AlCapone said:
What I miss at this forum, is a ROM with a honest, complete list of known bugs/non-working stuff.
Would like to see some quality-control, and know what I install - before I do.
Everybody is cooking ROM's (and that's nice) but there's no way to know how they will work before trying.
-its impossible to read thru >200 posts and figure out which of those are about the current version.
-recent posts are sometimes about earlier versions too...
Please: I hope some of you that des this nice job will focus on information about quality, and keep a "buglist" for each version..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree 100% Buglists are a must. Roms shouldn't be released with alot of bugs unless stated by the op.
husker91 said:
I agree 100% Buglists are a must. Roms shouldn't be released with alot of bugs unless stated by the op.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the point you're missing is that the bugs only become apparent after others flash the ROMs and do some testing.....
cr1960 said:
apparent after others flash the ROMs and do some testing.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nope - the author/or a helper is in the ultimate position to read the feedback, verify, and make a list in the first article containing these bugs.
i did not say that the cook should know about every bug before releasing.
maintain a list, and verify it against next version.
-the only way to have some quality control...
I agree with the sentiment - for those of us who only flash their phones maybe once a month, it would be nice to know a ROM is ultra stable and all known bugs / oddities have been sorted. (or if not, then a comprehensive list of things that are broken, with any workarounds etc) Reading through thousands of posts takes hours and not everybody has the time or inclination for that.
For instance both WM and Manila (and others) are under very active development, there are always new versions coming out. While it would be unreasonable to expect the beta WM builds (23xxx, 28xxx) to be 100% stable, it would be nice for a cook or two to say "right, this combination of components is stable, I'm going to stick with these for a while" instead of always following the very latest cutting edge "LOOK, SHINY TOYS!" at the risk of stability.
As for stability I am currently on JoshKoss's latest (1.7) and have yet to experience a single error, crash or hang. And Josh's seem to be the fastest ROMs, definitely of the ones I have experienced anyway. There are a few minor inconsistencies but these are in no way critical. If you want stable I would not even consider Manila 2.5 or any of the "start menu at the bottom" ROMs.
Have you tried AthineOS ROMS? Very fast, very stable. The current Leo 2.02 based ROM is the fastest Sense 2.5 ROM I've tried (and I've tried them all) and stable enough for hassle-free day to day use.
Guyz As far as my experience goes no cook likes to hide the bug list, rather they work to bring more in the light. Users like us are expected to give our submissions. Thats how it works. Things like quality control is not what we have seen here since its not GM factory but a place to share & experiment & success & failure is part of that place.
AlCapone said:
nope - the author/or a helper is in the ultimate position to read the feedback, verify, and make a list in the first article containing these bugs.
i did not say that the cook should know about every bug before releasing.
maintain a list, and verify it against next version.
-the only way to have some quality control...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I completely disagree. At the rate new builds are released, and with so many new tweaks and items going into ROMs, I think it would take forever for the chef and a select few beta testers to try and figure out all or most bugs in a ROM. I use Arrups ROMs, and he discloses everything that he can, but ultimately its not the chefs responsibility to create a "perfect" rom for Al Capone is it? Everyone uses different applications which can affect the stability of a ROM completely-for example Opera beta 10. I think its much more efficient to have them release the ROMs and let lots of people try and break them, then come back and fix it. And when bugs arise the are put on a "bug list" to be fixed.
We would never see new ROM releases for months if we waited for chefs to perfect stuff. So the people who just flash and leach ROMs cant help out a little?
Since you are so anxious about having a perfect ROM, why dont you have a go at it? Or is *****ing easier?
MadBeef said:
As for stability I am currently on JoshKoss's latest (1.7) and have yet to experience a single error, crash or hang. And Josh's seem to be the fastest ROMs, definitely of the ones I have experienced anyway. There are a few minor inconsistencies but these are in no way critical. If you want stable I would not even consider Manila 2.5 or any of the "start menu at the bottom" ROMs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
X2, This is a very stable ROM. I have been running it close to 2 weeks with no real issues & haven't had to soft reset because of a glitch or hang up.
I have to chime in here and agree with the sentiment of this thread. The application of it is much more difficult that it seems. I have been down this road before, trying to get the chefs to post a comprehensive bug list for their ROMs and while they are willing to do it, it is VERY difficult to tell what is a real bug and what is OE (operator error), confusion caused by loading some application, etc that really isn't a bug or a real bug.
For example, I have been running Sergio76's EVO 3 ROM for sometime now, and have absolutely nothing bad to say about it. Stable as hell, fast, good memory, good battery etc. But some of the other users of the same ROM find 'bugs' mostly caused by putting different shells on, or trying to icon sets.
So, my point is BRAVO! this needs to be done, but let's have a good discussion of how to categorize what is a bug, what is an incompatibility, etc. Because, if we simply list all these things as bugs then we run the risk of scaring folks off of flashing a potentially GREAT ROM all because one or two guys muck it up by hacking the registry and it gets put on a bug list.
I would also like to see a 'standard' way all the chefs list bugs, etc.
Russ
iceman4357 said:
why dont you have a go at it? Or is *****ing easier?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
bit harsh tbh
MadBeef said:
bit harsh tbh
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was actually holding back a lot. Unfortunately 90% of people on here dont contribute anything and just expect stuff to happen perfectly. If its so easy, then instead of creating an entire thread to talk about problems, why not make a "perfect" Rom and contribute.
iceman4357 said:
Since you are so anxious about having a perfect ROM, why dont you have a go at it? Or is *****ing easier?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
your own *****ing certainly does not help.
read my lips:
-I do NOT ask for a "perfect" ROM
-I just ask for the cook/helper to browse thru the reply-posts, and add known bugs they can confirm, to the first post - the one that contains the ROM
-So any ROM can have a list of known errors, (the the author confirms)
AlCapone said:
your own *****ing certainly does not help.
read my lips:
-I do NOT ask for a "perfect" ROM
-I just ask for the cook/helper to browse thru the reply-posts, and add known bugs they can confirm, to the first post - the one that contains the ROM
-So any ROM can have a list of known errors, (the the author confirms)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So the chef should worry about reading the 200 posts that you were worried about reading instead of working on ROMs? I am sure that chef mailboxes are full of people reporting bugs on a daily basis.
There are people other than the chefs that have a good deal of experience that help within the thread posts, that free up the chef to continue experimenting and cooking ROMs.
A lot of "common" bugs are specific to builds, such as the landscape issues vs touchflow(sense), or GPS lag which take a lot of time and programming to figure out. These are commonly known across ROMs and builds.
A lot of smaller bugs are from individual customization errors like with S2U2, Opera Beta, lack of knowledge, or custom tweaking.
Chefs, in my opinion, are here to provide a decent platform ROM for us to costimize individually; not to help each individual person with each custom problem they have.
x2
Montea said:
X2, This is a very stable ROM. I have been running it close to 2 weeks with no real issues & haven't had to soft reset because of a glitch or hang up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
can u link me up with the x2 rom u speak about?thanks
oyebee said:
can u link me up with the x2 rom u speak about?thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938
We were on about JoshKoss's ROMs.
I've said this for years, something like bugzilla would be good. Not that I have ever used it but something with a bit of structure you know? Flag bugs by component (ie. Manila footprints tab, lock screen, or whatever) then by ROM so the system will know already if it is ROM specific or not. But it still relies on people adding good data, as the saying goes, "Garbage In Garbage Out". An automated config dump tool would be a good step towards that. (an end-to-end "report bug" app would be awesome) After all I don't know what point release of Manila I'm running (1921? 1922??) because I don't really care unless it breaks, or a newer version has more shiny.
Anyway I said this a while ago and we are still "*****ing" about ROMs at a fairly disorganised level, and yet the cooks continue to work their magic, so it can't be all that bad
From another guy who comes on here with not very much to offer yet continues to leech a new ROM once a month or so
Stop the Madness...
Oh Geez....
Yes, I am one of the lurkers here at XDA, having been flashing my phones for years and not really contributing much to the community.
I have made a New Year's resolution to change that, so I am posting more now.
But look at some of the most popular ROMS....
Within hours of a Chef releasing a new version, there are hundreds of posts about it.
From what I gather, 95% if not more of these guys/gals cook up these ROMs in their spare time. They do it because they like to do it. I don't think anyone here is getting rich cooking up a ROM for my TP2. They all have lives and when there can be 40+ pages of posts within a couple days after they release a new version, I don't expect them to read every single one. Especially where a vast majority are people asking how to flash the ROM, how to change the theme or other posts that a simple search would provide the answer.
Most Chefs do post what was fixed, what was improved and a lot of them post issues in their ROMS.
I have spent hours reading page after page trying to figure out an answer to a issue I have had...knowing I was probably not the only one having it.
Do some Chef's not post as much info as I would like? Yes.
Am I going to berate those Chefs for not doing so? No.
Some of the responsibility has to be on the users. Period.
For example, I was and am a fan of the Energy ROMs. But I SMS an insane amount and the newest Leo interface with the HTC messaging client sucked, period. Not to say NRGZ28's ROMs sucked, quite the contrary, they are great. But did those ROMs fill every need that I specifically had? No.
So, I did some research, and I found in a thread where Agent_47 suggested his ROM because he didn't even cook in the HTC SMS messaging client. So, I looked at his thread, flashed the ROM, and realized that I have had no issues with it and am very happy. Stable, works and I don't have to wait 7 minutes sometimes to send a text to someone!
We are all very lucky to have XDA. We are all very lucky to have the Chefs that spend their own time, and a lot of it, to cook up these excellent ROMs for us to flash.
Instead of complaining about the lack of 'bug lists'...perhaps you could create a tool or set something up to help the Chefs better manage those said lists?
That is the spirit that has and continues to make XDA great, if there is something you want, something that you see lacking, then create a tool to fill that void.
If you don't want to do that, then I suggest getting an iPhone, where you are locked into your OS and a slave to Apple and their constant updates and static interface. Cool device, granted, but I prefer the freedom of flashing, the excitement of trying new interfaces, experimenting with new features and lastly, the great folks here at XDA.
\.end rant
Spankmeister said:
I suggest getting an iPhone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's not get silly
So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
I think XannyTechRom is now the stabilytiest rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594151
The most stable ROM can be found by using "Search" and "Reading" before posting.
However , you could start off with Miri's as it is close to stock and try everything else before you conclude whats best for you.
PS : All ROM's are stable.
napsterdj said:
The most stable ROM can be found by using "Search" and "Reading" before posting.
However , you could start off with Miri's as it is close to stock and try everything else before you conclude whats best for you.
PS : All ROM's are stable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there is no "stable" on cooked roms... but its play with them.
airbrushbodyart48 said:
So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mark my words and go for Energy Phoenix 21891 Feb 4 release.
Its mind boggling. Cool and suave.
And really fast. Mark my words again REALLY FAST and no bugs. Really STABLE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524032
Asked a million Times
airbrushbodyart48 said:
So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This really gets asked alot and is pretty much a waste of time. This will get closed fairly quickly as it should be.
Asking what is the most stable or best rom usually ends up in endless & pointless bickering.
The best answer is the one that you find most works for you. Search, read the different rom threads and see what parts of them you like. Read up some more then flash a few and use them for a few days so you get the feel and experience of them. You will eventually find one that has all that you are looking for.
@MODS: Do your thing
adempozhari said:
there is no "stable" on cooked roms... but its play with them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It depends on how you want to describe "stable".
Most of the ROM's i try here are really good. But it really depends on what your looking for. Sometimes i want Eye candy, and sometimes I just want my ROM to be very responsive and bug free with the things I normally use.
Then again its subjective from person to person.
And pointless threads leads to pointless discussions , lol
Just my 2 cents.
Waiting for this to be closed.
airbrushbodyart48 said:
So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will never know.
napsterdj said:
The most stable ROM can be found by using "Search" and "Reading" before posting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good advice... the problem is, that we have a umpteen of different ROMS and - thats most tiring - a bazillion of replys to the particular threads. How could you extract valuable information out of that bunch of information?
so, in my opinion, that thread here is absolutely justified. But on the other side I have absolutely no idea, how to find a answer to that question.
cheers
The point here is, "You will never know unless you try it yourself," especially if you spend your time asking others, waiting and hoping.
Read threads, explore and experiment is the best advice we all can give you as everyone's preference can be different then yours.
.....threads like this don't last long for the purposes mentioned above so before it closes I would like to say Good luck and happy Flashing.
I understand where you are coming from, there is a hell of a lot of reading through various forums to try and work out what is the best for you. ( I also have found the search function takes quite a while to dig through to find what u want)
Recently I have been after fast/"stable" rom, running a WM6.5 rom with sence 2.5. I'm am not a serial flasher, as i try and find a good rom and stick with it for a many months. (Was a big fan of Dutty's when he cooked for the HD)
I choose the below (easy to find in the rom section)
[ROM][WWE][Feb.13.10] Topix 3.5.4 [Sense 2.5.2012][5.2.21891][ONLINE]
and I run version 1.14.XX.XX radio.
There are a few small bugs but nothing major or impact most peoples phone usage,
Main bugs are
Java won't run (bypassable by a cab)
Slight issue when editing a txt (still researching a fix)
Possibly problem keeping a proxy setting (no research done yet)
I beleive facebook also needs some patching but i dont use it so have not tried, but again there is a cab to fix it
.
I have added added a small amount of bling, being
"Brians WM6.5 taskbar (v5b)" for a coloured taskbar
and
"driverpack signed 2010" to increase video speed
I also have a heap of games plus some apps and utilities (eg clean ram, Tom Tom, coreplayer, mobipocket etc)
It runs very well and I have had no stability issue's. It's fine on the battery too unlike some.
I highly recommend it. (This is a fairly new rom version so it is possible that other problem may occur but it is from a good cook)
Difficult to answer this is why these kind of posts get stopped...
But It all depends on what you use your device for, I for one need lots of free memory as I run some heavy GPS software and other applications at the same time, most of the Sense 2.5 loaded roms are way to bloated, they look nice and are great for basic use, but once you start really pushing the device which this device can handle, its just it seems all this fuss about a bit of graphical weather and a book reader that is far inferior to most applications out there, is beyond me...WM6.5.5 I find very nice, especially the new calendar finger friendlyness, I find I don't use the sense calendar as I can quickly cut and paste etc..within the built in calendar, music player I find Nitrogen far superior to the HTC one, image viewer well there can be only one and thats Rescos.
I can see what HTC are trying to do with Sense, but its based on having an extremely powerful system ie..HD2. so I would recommend a basic rom
I've stayed away from anything Manilla for months now. I was tired of a sluggish interface. However I was thinking about giving it another shot to see what our fantastic chefs were able to do it it. So in everyone's opinion what is currently the FASTEST 2.5 rom out there that uses the WM 6.5.5. Any input would be much appreciated.
Oh and another thing I was curious about. Another reason I stopped using it was because it didn't really cooperate well with Iconsoft Phonex. Does anyone know if they clash still? (One example of a problem i had was HTC favorite contacts wouldn't go through to place a call when clicking a contact)
thanks
opinion here
read, try and find out 4 yourself
best
I am asking for speed, that is something measurable. I remember people would ask these all the time and quite often there was a general consensus like "Try Touch X Final. Its super fast!" or "Oh man! spikegotti's UnOff series is the best!"
So i was just wondering if there was a specific ROM that most people had more success with than others. If you don't have an answer or are annoyed by the thread I am sorry, but no one is forcing you to post an answer. I was just looking for anyone that had legitimate input. I'd prefer not to completely waste two days flashing every single ROM only to find out that i still dont really like manilla
Well, then do some research on your own. You know, users talk about how they felt the speed is like in threads of different roms. Have a look what rom appeals to you and then read some comments...would not be bad, would it?
I agree with other people, but I would also advice to start your searching from Valkyrie TR 6.0.28232
Try Valkyrie's rom. In my opinion it's fast,stable and you have all needed applications preinstalled
To help your case:
click the link in my signature. There are pretty good, fast, stable and bug-less roms on that blog. Also you could try blaze or valkyries like it has been mentioned already.
So except Valkryie is there another ROM that has Sense 2.5 and stable...Thanx a TON!!
I've just installed this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637679
and its quite good so far.
Touch-IT BR 21893
I've flashed this one awhile ago and its working perfectly for me. So fast and stable but i disabled HTC messaging, u can search for the cab here in the forum... Cheers!
Go for Rotastrain's Blaze!
It's fast and stable, and any bugs are usually dealt with immediately.
SonyXperia said:
I've just installed this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637679
and its quite good so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does the battery drain, also do u have the SOD(Phone freezing after sleep mode) and more than that, is it stable??
I genuinely recommend NRG's Energy Leo 23541 build - i've been using it for just over a week and it is simply amazing; with all my own apps added to the plethora of USEFUL apps already installed, it still flies along at top speed.
Note: Best practise is always to flash the ROM, then hard reset (Press the reset button whilst holding down the two front buttons under the screen) - this ensures best speed/stability!
See the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
Baring in mind i'm a tight b****rd; i have actually donated for this ROM. That says something!!
FingAZ.
dalgibbard said:
I genuinely recommend NRG's Energy Leo 23541 build - i've been using it for just over a week and it is simply amazing; with all my own apps added to the plethora of USEFUL apps already installed, it still flies along at top speed.
Note: Best practise is always to flash the ROM, then hard reset (Press the reset button whilst holding down the two front buttons under the screen) - this ensures best speed/stability!
See the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
Baring in mind i'm a tight b****rd; i have actually donated for this ROM. That says something!!
FingAZ.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dONT U get the SODs???I hvae heard that u have to update the radio also..im not very sure if i want to do that....
circleofomega said:
Does the battery drain, also do u have the SOD(Phone freezing after sleep mode) and more than that, is it stable??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
My battery doesnt drain any faster with this ROM installed I get normal battery life.
Not sure about hte SOD issue you speak about.. if you mean does the phone freeze after I've unlocked the screen lock then no I generally havent experianced any freezeing on the phone since installing this ROM so basically I find it very stable.