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Been away awhile - IYO, What ROM is best for Manila 2D? [Plz no negative comments]

Hey guys!
I've been away awhile and I was trying to find which ROM was the most stable for Manila...but there's sooo much to read!! Wow, a lot's been going on here.
I'll be honest, I just don't have the time to weed out the best rom...
If anyone is so inclined and can be nice and has been keeping up to date on the new ROMs, can you please care to direct me to which ROM you believe is currently the best?
Thanks for your desire to help me out!!

kenkaniff said:
Hey guys!
I've been away awhile and I was trying to find which ROM was the most stable for Manila...but there's sooo much to read!! Wow, a lot's been going on here.
I'll be honest, I just don't have the time to weed out the best rom...
If anyone is so inclined and can be nice and has been keeping up to date on the new ROMs, can you please care to direct me to which ROM you believe is currently the best?
Thanks for your desire to help me out!!
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Well, im afraid to tell you but this is all a personal preference. Different roms have different pre-packaged software. There is no such thing as the "Best" ROM . Its which one is Best for YOU.
It takes all of 15 minutes to download and install one...... just see which flavor suits ya best
On that note, I use L26M2DV4 and its pretty nice. Ive also heard HDIII M2D is good as well.

I've been flashing like crazy... from G-DK4 to everything but my best pick is HyperDragon III Jade +Manila 2D
Super Fast no bugs so far, battery is good , GPS fast
btw
AT&T in San Juan Puerto Rico

Thanks for the vote karlospr!
Much appreciated

Gotta check out PDACorners Versions as well, it rates right at the top .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428261

Rupy's is the best IMHO
I have been burning M2D's for some time, including NATF, PDACorner, & Hyperdragon, but have found that RRE V5.9 is the best out. I realize that some will complain that it has too slow of a startup time, but how often do you really reset your phone. It is EXTREMELY stable and is suprisingly lite for what you get. You can find it below:
Rupy's Thread
unfortunately Rupy has called it quits on TILT roms as he has gotten the fuze, but give it a shot, i am very happy with it.

[Q] Cooked roms v shipped roms

'I am a flasher and proud of it!' oops that it wasn't meant to come out like that.
I have always flashed my HTC devices with cooked roms, the reason is the great chefs iron out bugs that the official HTC devs maybe didn't have time (or the ability?) to do. This makes them generally more stable and faster, however i have never been with a device at the beginning, meaning when the cooking first starts.
So far with the HD i have been underwhelmed by the current crop of cooked roms, this considering we have such amazing chefs on here such as Dutty and Laurentius to name 2. I have found all of them unstable slow and unresponsive so much so that i have re-flashed the shipped rom.
i want to know is this just because we are at the beginning with this device or is it that maybe it was an optimised rom in the first place?
I don't want to insult any of the chefs, these are the very people who have sorted and made so many of my phones fantastic. Furthermore i have nothing but respect for anyone willing to share their work with a stranger, this is a genuinely honest question.

have you tried all the ROMs available
i had the same impressions as you about stability
or my phone just did not like them
but then i tried "a Touch of HD" by kwbr
awesome clean fast and stable ROM,
it doesn't need to be updated every few days because of bugs,
because it doesn't throw everything in (a ton of 3rd party apps), but it's also NOT anemic (very close to stock).
anyway i'm happy but the point is maybe try a few other ROMs
to find the one that suits you and your phone

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anyway i'm happy but the point is maybe try a few other ROMs
to find the one that suits you and your phone
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i will try that rom next time i have time to re flash. The main problem i have and i'm sure many other people have is my phone is a busy phone and i just don't have the time to keep trying roms. Your advice is good specific advice which is hard to find when sifting through massive rom threads!
A question, do you think that the cooked roms have improved the performance of the HD?

donbronzi said:
'I am a flasher and proud of it!' oops that it wasn't meant to come out like that.
I have always flashed my HTC devices with cooked roms, the reason is the great chefs iron out bugs that the official HTC devs maybe didn't have time (or the ability?) to do. This makes them generally more stable and faster, however i have never been with a device at the beginning, meaning when the cooking first starts.
So far with the HD i have been underwhelmed by the current crop of cooked roms, this considering we have such amazing chefs on here such as Dutty and Laurentius to name 2. I have found all of them unstable slow and unresponsive so much so that i have re-flashed the shipped rom.
i want to know is this just because we are at the beginning with this device or is it that maybe it was an optimised rom in the first place?
I don't want to insult any of the chefs, these are the very people who have sorted and made so many of my phones fantastic. Furthermore i have nothing but respect for anyone willing to share their work with a stranger, this is a genuinely honest question.
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I am very critical mate and I felt the same tried most which I found better than the shipped ROM I had from Orange for various reasons but speed seemed average until I tried Davideuck V3 - it feels so darn responsive I thought I had a new phone! Of course that is my view and others may say different but hey.
Hard reset after flashing (woops that can sound a little dodgy too depends how twisted your mind is...)

donbronzi said:
A question, do you think that the cooked roms have improved the performance of the HD?
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from stock?
most definitely!

CutePinkSox said:
I am very critical mate and I felt the same tried most which I found better than the shipped ROM I had from Orange for various reasons but speed seemed average until I tried Davideuck V3...)
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I tried that rom and found it a little sluggish, ie missed calls because of lack of responsiveness, i also had trouble installing Igo8. That rom is was the first that made me think the cooked roms where getting somewhere but then it still felt too buggy?
I need it to be stable.
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Hard reset after flashing (woops that can sound a little dodgy too depends how twisted your mind is...)
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Flashing is a dodgy business!

Im still using duttys 1.5, before that tried few but i found this most stable and fast. I wouldnt swap back to stock anymore.
So faaast this is :> waiting 1.8 version to come if theres some new shiny things. 1.6 and 1.7 werent so high priority so didnt update to those.

tunppi said:
Im still using duttys 1.5, before that tried few but i found this most stable and fast. I wouldnt swap back to stock anymore.
So faaast this is :> waiting 1.8 version to come if theres some new shiny things. 1.6 and 1.7 werent so high priority so didnt update to those.
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My first cooked rom was Duttys 1.7 and i found it no faster, more buggy and less stable than my original rom.
Have flashed touch of HD this morning and really hope that i can tell the difference. SO far i am still not convinced!

donbronzi said:
My first cooked rom was Duttys 1.7 and i found it no faster, more buggy and less stable than my original rom.
Have flashed touch of HD this morning and really hope that i can tell the difference. SO far i am still not convinced!
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try davideucks v3.. it really convinced me

donbronzi said:
I tried that rom and found it a little sluggish, ie missed calls because of lack of responsiveness, i also had trouble installing Igo8. That rom is was the first that made me think the cooked roms where getting somewhere but then it still felt too buggy?
I need it to be stable.
Flashing is a dodgy business!
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I respect your point of view but, from my point of view I can't think that there's no difference between cooked and shipped roms. Before starting to cook my rom, I've tried the dutty one too, and the difference with the official one is consistent. And I think this is the same for all cooked roms here. Obviusly some are much stable, others not, but you can simply try them and chose the best for you.
After this, excuse me, but what version of IGO8 are you using??
I've IGO v8.3.2.64029 and works perfect on mine device, and I think I'm not the only one, other people have wrote that IGO runs well on mine rom.
Then, you could simply post in my thread and even you would have gotten useful suggestions

davideuck said:
After this, excuse me, but what version of IGO8 are you using??
I've IGO v8.3.2.64029 and works perfect on mine device, and I think I'm not the only one, other people have wrote that IGO runs well on mine rom.
Then, you could simply post in my thread and even you would have gotten useful suggestions
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Sorry mate, i agree with you totaly should have posted this on your thread and will do now. I did think your rom was the best i'd tried actually, really liked the look of the rom as well. I have IGO8 8.1 something something. It wouldn't install, it started then just ended. I had this problem on another rom as well.
My point is that hte cooked roms are good, and some i've tried like yours are very good. Just i've noticed in alot of the cooked roms have issues with stability, sluggishness unresponsiveness etc which were't in the shipped rom.
My feeling on it are that the shipped rom was a pretty good starting point and unlike (for example) the Kaiser, the HD as an End user device is pretty much there (video isuues beside).
Just to reiterate this isnt in any way an insult to any of the cooks that grace XDA devs. You really are doing superb stuff!!

Always remember to hard reset after flashing, that could have some effect.
No idea how you cant see it but every game, touchflo, movies work waay better with proper custom roms like duttys and laurentius.
Couldnt watch some movies properly before flashing now every movie and video clip work smooth and not dropping frames or lagging sound.

I must admit that flashing cooked rom for Diamond seem to have more advancement in feature/speed/stability compared to the HD at this moment.
I'm currently flashing HD back to the stock rom from Dutty's 1.7. Dutty's rom wasn't bad, just it seems that the stock rom isn't shabby enough to make the change as of today.

jonathanguu said:
I must admit that flashing cooked rom for Diamond seem to have more advancement in feature/speed/stability compared to the HD at this moment.
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You may be forgetting something important.. The Diamond has less memory to start with in the first place, so making a cleaner ROM for it can fix this problem by removing unimportant stuff. As for the HD, if I get 30-something percent of occupied memory when it WM is fully loaded - there's much less to be fixed...

At first with the Kaiser, the cooked roms were only a small improvement on the stock. But over time they just kept getting better and better as more problems were solved and more features added.
The HD is still quite new, but some great features like Flash in IE & opera, are starting to make a big difference between the stock & cooked roms.
I'm sure with more time the cooked roms will get incrementally better an better.
Shame a chef can't cook in a hardware keyboard for the HD!

DavidMc0 said:
At first with the Kaiser, the cooked roms were only a small improvement on the stock. But over time they just kept getting better and better as more problems were solved and more features added.
The HD is still quite new, but some great features like Flash in IE & opera, are starting to make a big difference between the stock & cooked roms.
I'm sure with more time the cooked roms will get incrementally better an better.
Shame a chef can't cook in a hardware keyboard for the HD!
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Yeah the HD is really new, the cooks and helpers are often getting ideas and apps from the Diamond forum. We'll catch up in time.
Cooking a hard keyboard into the ROM would be nice, but it sounds like black magic cooking!

DavidMc0 said:
At first with the Kaiser, the cooked roms were only a small improvement on the stock. But over time they just kept getting better and better as more problems were solved and more features added.
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This is what i really wanted to know, i didn't get the kaiser until it had been out for 4-5 months.
I have been using the touch of HD rom for the last couple of days, it does seem smoother and is definatly stable. Got some time now so will put it through its paces.
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my experience: with the trinity and the wizard, the limitations of the hardware were so stringent (ROM, CPU, drivers, GPS!) that tuning introduced very significant improvements. For example, my stock ROM was hiding the GPS, that appeared through cooked ROMs!!!!
The touch HD has a much more mature hardware, and it is born with the same windows mobile version we are all using. So, it is not surprising that available cooked rom, few months after its commercial release, are not so different in performances from the stock rom. In particular, REMOVING applications has a much less effect on the touch HD, since finally memory is not on the critical path...
Said this, i do feel that some cooked roms are faster than others, and some other ROMs are better tweaked but essentially stock roms. I can speak about my ROM: I changed the theme and tuned some settings, but it is essentially a stock ROM (latest release, but stock touch HD ROM). Other cooks have been able to introduce and experiment new features (drivers, pagepool) and, in my opinion, did a visible job in improving the basic performances. In this moment, i have to admit i am happily running DavideUck V3 and i have no problem in recognizing it is faster than the stock ROM 1.14 delivered with my HD.
Concerning stability, i have absolutely no issues with it. And yes - don't confuse radio roms with OS: radio ROM do introduce visible benefits also - but they are never cooked YET...

well i think all the chefs try and out do each other to a degree. (i mean no disrespect and some competition is good keeps them on there feet) they all want to cook the latest apps, radios and o/s builds and release first this means that they dont always get tested as well as they used to (hence slow buggy etc as theve being rushed and released for the hell of it). I and others had all these problems with the athena at the begining the 1st cooked rom for the device had obvious bugs like no sms ability or no incoming calls. and this was from a respected member of this community. i know excitement gets the better of all of us and id rather have some crap roms than no choice at all but with the current hardware i think its best to cook your own roms with a known stable rom as the base and cook in what you need or taken progs out.
Saying that ive not got around to cooking yet, I'm too lazy, but deffo ther best way forward
TOO MANY COOKS SPOIL THE BROTH

Cooking your own rom is indeed advantageous but i really haven't got the time. The chefs know what to take out and what to leave from experience learned over time i guess.
I do agree there is a tendancy to upload cooked roms before testing which i suppose is the point, let the people test and suggest! What we need is a thread which post 'finished' or 'perfected' rom series's then score each on multimedia, business, lite, heavy, speedy, stable etc, people who've used the roms can then mark each point out of 5. This will give a better picture of what each rom is about.
It can be an absolute night mare sifting through rom threads to get a flavour of the rom.
There is a 'rom of the month thread' which is irrelevant for many as it depends on what you like on your rom, says nothing for the roms specifics and character.
Might look into creating such a beast, any points you think should a rom should be marked on maybe you could list?
Hope this made sense

Fastest Rom

Hi guys just wanted to ask for a little advice
i am usung Dutty's 1.8 (brilliant BTW) but do sometimes find it a bit laggy
what in your experiance do you find to be the fastest ROM
Thanks in advance

IrfanSEAT said:
Hi guys just wanted to ask for a little advice
i am usung Dutty's 1.8 (brilliant BTW) but do sometimes find it a bit laggy
what in your experiance do you find to be the quest rom
Thanks in advance
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In my opinion the fastest ROM is kwbr's TOUCH OF HD (my opinion)
Other opinions may be Dutty's V1.7 -- I havent used it but people say its fast!!
I use TOUCH OF HD and its ****IN FAST!!!

This changes within everyone device.... all depending on what apps u install yourself... what use you have your HD for. you should try all roms out, and try to see which one functions better for your needs, as they all have different speeds hehe, but for me, this is the speed chart.
1-Davie v-5
2-dutty
3-laurentius
are the speeds for me... however they are ALL AMAZING roms.... i think i dont keep em more than a week each... i keep swapping between the three haha

Well.. In my opinion...
Of the ROMs I have used lately... The ones I liked are...
- Davide V5 / HelloNasty
- Dutty V1.8 (if you do not install any 3rd party apps... it is fast).
- kwbr
- onkolog Lite ROM (obviously.. there isn't much in there except speed, you install you own apps.
- Laurentius 26
But like already mentioned... your preference and opinion would be quite different than mine. So, the best suggestion is... try out the latest version of every ROM for abou a day and I'm sure you would be as confused as we are and keep flashing ROMs every other day...
Personally for me, ROM flashing has become an addiction.

IrfanSEAT said:
Hi guys just wanted to ask for a little advice
i am usung Dutty's 1.8 (brilliant BTW) but do sometimes find it a bit laggy
what in your experiance do you find to be the fastest ROM
Thanks in advance
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I will really like to know this too, as i have the same problem with Dutty's 1.8

The best ROM is the one you choose after trying them all. If you have a question specific to a ROM, then post in that thread.
Thread closed.

Stok vs custom ROM

Hello, couple of days ago i moved back to windows mobile and bought a HD...So far i have flashed the latest stock ROM, Dutty's 2.3,Touch of HD 3.4.2, wm 6.5 version ..... and I would say the stock ROM is the best so far
Other options ? Any ideas which is the most used rom ?
Regards,
A

the roms we use, are the ones we like. you need to run the one you like
you wont get a vote here on "whose is the best rom?"

didn't ask whose rom is the best....i asked what is the rom that most of you use and maybe why...I don't want any vote....I don't think any chief would mind hearing opinions about their roms....Might help em gettin better .....Anyways, if the staff thinks that my question is wrong...the thread can be trashed
Regards,
A

rootkited said:
didn't ask whose rom is the best....i asked what is the rom that most of you use and maybe why...I don't want any vote....I don't think any chief would mind hearing opinions about their roms....Might help em gettin better .....Anyways, if the staff thinks that my question is wrong...the thread can be trashed
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A
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i use win 6.5 miri xtralight with winterface.
it is faster than the original roms, and seems to be more stable than duttys..

rootkited said:
didn't ask whose rom is the best....i asked what is the rom that most of you use and maybe why...I don't want any vote....I don't think any chief would mind hearing opinions about their roms....Might help em gettin better .....Anyways, if the staff thinks that my question is wrong...the thread can be trashed
Regards,
A
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I think the 2 most common rom's used (correct me if I'm wrong) are Duttys & Laurentius26
Dutty has a number of rom's released with varied reports on each so its best to read each thread and make up your own opinion. Personally the best thing you could do is flash a rom, try it out and make your own opinion. I have flash3ed countless rom's and still haven't found the perfect one!

rootkited said:
Hello, couple of days ago i moved back to windows mobile and bought a HD...So far i have flashed the latest stock ROM, Dutty's 2.3,Touch of HD 3.4.2, wm 6.5 version ..... and I would say the stock ROM is the best so far
Other options ? Any ideas which is the most used rom ?
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It depends which criteria you have. On rom is stable, another have more functions another a nicer interface another is faster another has more free space.
Write down your own criteria and check which ROM is the best for. Most of the users here are still searching (see Fallen Spartan)

rootkited said:
Hello, couple of days ago i moved back to windows mobile and bought a HD...So far i have flashed the latest stock ROM, Dutty's 2.3,Touch of HD 3.4.2, wm 6.5 version ..... and I would say the stock ROM is the best so far
Other options ? Any ideas which is the most used rom ?
Regards,
A
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Me too. I am back to stock, although I did compress manilla textures in it.
Even tried many radios, but back to stock radio as well.
Great thing are done with roms here, but they have IMHO to many oddities.
Still, HTC could learn a trick or two overhere....
I did flash my Elf (Old Touch) with a mature cooked rom, and I am happy with that.
No doubt there will be great Touch HD roms here, when I have bought my Pro2

I have also tried Laurentius26 ROM.It has a lot of features that i like (big start menu...i mean very big :-D)....but also found some bugs (i fixed one)...It's very fast and i like that
Duttys is a little to slow...i think...
I will flash right now the xtralight version of miri's 6.5 wm (now that viczena said that it's fast)
Greetings from Romania,
/A

Very very duummm question? Or is it, where can i get Stock WM 6.1, i flashed mine, and i dont know wich one to use, they are all great, so i am heading back to original? So if you could please help me.

Well i'm just going along with whatever roms come out, so far tryed 6 of them a week apart, about same. I'm sticking now to 1 new rom a month.

Nice looking rom
So could you please tell me if there is any rom with nice interface? I've tried most of Duty's , MaryOne and much more, but I can't find any which has cool TF3D, every tab backgrund (I don't want to spend half of my day to resize a picture just to make a background for every tabs).
P.S. Sorry for my english

Spoilt for ROMs - Miri, At0mAng or NRGZ28's??

Hi all,
To anyone out there who has tried all three of what look like to be the best Rhodium ROMs here currently - which one would you recommend and why?
Miri - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552643
At0mAng - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555747
NRGZ28 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
I'm about to load my first ROM and any feedback on which one would has the best stability with working Exchange 2007 + BT integration would be appreciated.
Many thanks
PS - pls no more "just read their threads" posts, have done that already and keen to get any first hand feedback

Let's see! All the information you want is in that respective thread! If you read them, then you wont need to ask. Also ROM performance depends on what you install and where you live! So you really cant compare what other users say.
Just read, flash and enjoy!

mougins said:
PS - pls no more "just read their threads" posts, have done that already and keen to get any first hand feedback
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Seriously; the previous poster is right: it's all a matter of personal taste. You honestly can only judge for yourself, and your type of usage of your device.
Besides, there are more cooks, you forgot some ROMS in your list
Again: just flash, use the rom for a few hours, and try another one... after a while you will see what cook fits your need the best

I personally prefer At0mang's ROM's they are fast and stable and good for everyday use

Like anyone needs to ask...my ROM of course

My 2 cents
Hi
I tried all, and the Best as per my experience is Miri.
1- Not a single button push or option made my TP2 freeze. Other ROMs made it freeze. In one of the ROMs, the "other" button in the manila settings page made it freeze every time i click it
2- Other ROMs have built in software that did not work. One of the ROMs had "Bluetooth explorer" and "bluetooth wizard", and none of those could switch on bluetooth !!!! My experience is based on flashing more than once
3- The only thing that lacks Miri is modifying the icons on the taskbar to make them more eye candy (bluetooth, wifi, battery, GSM, speaker,...)
Rgds
Raed

NRG might get the upper hand just because of his visuals.
Other then that, I think all is great.

udK rom....

Honestly speaking Miri's and B16B is the best ROM i ever tried. Well it depends on your requirements better try ALL and select which one is suitable for your TP2.
For me I'm still using the Shipped ROM + Hero Toch

I have to agree about the visuals, not only does NRG make a stable rom but its got everything you need pre loaded and looks fantastic, all other roms are still genius work, but still using NRG'S

On a serious note
The only ROM's I would use are my ROMs or NRG's ROMs. At least we do something creative with our ROMs and not just package up OEM crap.
How about getting a little orginal and also learning how to port a build instead of using the OEM sys. Oh yeah that is too much work without asking for help and then dropping people once you get what you want

lorgem said:
Honestly speaking Miri's and B16B is the best ROM i ever tried. Well it depends on your requirements better try ALL and select which one is suitable for your TP2.
For me I'm still using the Shipped ROM + Hero Toch
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thanks m8 because i do not see nowhere my rom
i think because is not compared with the others..

At0mAng said:
The only ROM's I would use are my ROMs or NRG's ROMs. At least we do something creative with our ROMs and not just package up OEM crap.
How about getting a little orginal and also learning how to port a build instead of using the OEM sys. Oh yeah that is too much work without asking for help and then dropping people once you get what you want
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Porting a ROM is not an easy thing!...I know exactly what u mean...

You'll notice that there aren't a lot of "which rom is best" threads, because they're terribly subjective and often lead to a lot of bickering. As such, it's standard policy to close these types of threads.