Removing Hard-SPL? - Palm Treo 750 ROM Development

Once your unit had Hard-SPL how do I return it back to original SPL? Browsed thru all the threads including the original Hard-SPL thread but there seems to be no clear instructions.
Thanks.

roydok said:
Once your unit had Hard-SPL how do I return it back to original SPL? Browsed thru all the threads including the original Hard-SPL thread but there seems to be no clear instructions.
Thanks.
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You'll need to get an official ROM and flash it. (official ROMs contain the shipped SPL as well as the OS)

I already have the official 2.27 unlocked ROM. I tried to reflash it but still the SPL stays the same. Do I need to do something before flashing the official ROM?

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solved here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410984

awojtas said:
solved here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410984
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Thank you for reply. I tried your suggestion but it did not work on my Treo. It was not restored to the original bootloader.

l3v5y said:
You'll need to get an official ROM and flash it. (official ROMs contain the shipped SPL as well as the OS)
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When I flash the offical ROM. It did not remove hardSPL. I also tried using the Recovery software. that didn't seem to remove the hard-SPL either. it is not a major problem at the moment for me. but I like to know how to remove HardSPL. (Incase I need to send it back for service.)

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from hard spl to stock rom

i have a tmobile wing and have a hard spl on it how do i go stock again??????
unpapi_4u said:
i have a tmobile wing and have a hard spl on it how do i go stock again??????
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Back to the stock SPL? The only thing I can think off and it MAY NOT WORK OR BRICK YOUR DEVICE because I haven't tested it is using USPL to flash the stock RUU and hopefully that will overwrite the SPL.
From my understanding, the stock Tmo Wing RUU does have SPL and will over write it back to stock.
duprade said:
From my understanding, the stock Tmo Wing RUU does have SPL and will over write it back to stock.
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Except that the HardSPL is coded not to let another SPL overwrite it. Using USPL should overwrite this lock.
duprade said:
From my understanding, the stock Tmo Wing RUU does have SPL and will over write it back to stock.
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can't you strip the rom of the spl like on the wizard roms?
systematic said:
can't you strip the rom of the spl like on the wizard roms?
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Yes. That will let you use any ROM, but if he wanted to go back to the stock SPL for warranty reasons, that would be the way to go, I would hope.
any one have USPL?
unpapi_4u said:
any one have USPL?
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go to the open touch thread, you can find it in the first post there.
its not there.......anyone have a direct link?
unpapi_4u said:
its not there.......anyone have a direct link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351966
i tried installing it but in step three the ruu dose work period.......any other way...or shuold i give up?
unpapi_4u said:
i tried installing it but in step three the ruu dose work period.......any other way...or shuold i give up?
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I'm sorry. Please restate your post. I didn't quite understand it.
i found a eaiser way and u dont need a uspl all u need to do is get the stock ruu and run it. your phone is going to restart...simply put it back into bootloader mode without taking off the usb and your done!!!!!
unpapi_4u said:
i found a eaiser way and u dont need a uspl all u need to do is get the stock ruu and run it. your phone is going to restart...simply put it back into bootloader mode without taking off the usb and your done!!!!!
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This will not overwrite HardSPL.
hey it just worked for me maybe some poeple should test it out 2
unpapi_4u said:
hey it just worked for me maybe some poeple should test it out 2
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I don't understand. You HAD the HARDSpl installed in your phone? You ran the stock RUU and it automatically wrote the HardSPL even though the HardSPL was purposely coded not to allow that?
SO you say when installing a official RUU WITH SPL.nbh - the HArd-SPL will be overwritten??
Please clarify your devicesttings.
i tried it again and i missed a step (my bad)
here are the steps that worked for me......
step 1 :run the uspl (in the botton link of these steps) but in step 3 of the uspl program the ruu isnt going to work..
step 2 : put ur phone in bootloader run the stock ruu and at 1% the phone is going to restart and get out of bootloader..
step 3:simply put it back into bootloader (without disconnecting it to your computer) and let the stock ruu run...after go thru the steps...the align the screen put a pasword ect.. let it update the windows (if u dont want it to update then just soft reset the phone before it starts) and then your done.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351966
just thot i'd co-sign for unpapi_4u
verified: wing can go from hard-spl to stock spl via uspl
1. download uspl aka flash center and wing factory ruu
2. copy RUU_signed.nbh and SPL.nbh from wing factory ruu to flash center
3. run it
completed successfuly with no intervention, didnt have to put in boot loader
after flashing i checked (soft reset while holding camera button)
spl was 4.10.0000
Bootloader--Stuck
Hi,
After trying the above, I now get the bootloader screen... showing IPL 4.17.0001 and SPL 4.10.0000.. Try flashing it with
Stock--RUU_Herald_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.7.707.3_02.69.90_Ship_R.exe [Error 226 Flash Write] &
HTC_P4350_WWE_4.17.405.2_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship.exe [Invalid Vendor ID] & RUU_Herald_HTC_WWE_5.4.405.1_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Ship.exe [Invalid Vendor ID].
I also tried alot of the cooked rom v4.0/V4.4/OpenTouch 2.4/
HERALD.ASERG.23F.WM6.RUS.PS6.rar but also get error message as file corrupt [#270]
I had the hardSPL installed before this..Trying to got back to stock rom because I am selling the phone. Do you guys have any suggestion?
Which ROM can I use to make it work.
My phone is the Dopod C800
Thanks in advance..
Eddie

[Q]SoftSPL

I've been reading the wiki, but either it was not clear enough or i am dumb enough (^^)
can anyone pls clarify me? does SoftSPL need to be loaded on every system startup or just only on rom upgrade?
it seemed to me a better choice to use SoftSPL instead of HardSPL to not void warranty.
since OliNex (uber pro ty dudes) are developing a HardSPL is it possible to port/transform/whatever to SoftSPL?
best regards
tehCORE
tehCORE said:
I've been reading the wiki, but either it was not clear enough or i am dumb enough (^^)
can anyone pls clarify me? does SoftSPL need to be loaded on every system startup or just only on rom upgrade?
it seemed to me a better choice to use SoftSPL instead of HardSPL to not void warranty.
since OliNex (uber pro ty dudes) are developing a HardSPL is it possible to port/transform/whatever to SoftSPL?
best regards
tehCORE
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softspl aka sspl is only used for flashing spl's. You can't flash a rom using a sspl. Why do you think the Hardspl is created???????
thought
sspl -> temp fix
hspl -> perm fix
With the softspl you flash the hard spl and then you flash a rom with it
tehCORE said:
it seemed to me a better choice to use SoftSPL instead of HardSPL to not void warranty.
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no. imagine the following case... your device has no matching shipped rom for it... you flash a rom via sspl... flash gets interrupted... YOU're STUCK!!!
and warranty isn't voided with hardspl, just reflash to stock SPL before sending it in...
cmonex said:
no. imagine the following case... your device has no matching shipped rom for it... you flash a rom via sspl... flash gets interrupted... YOU're STUCK!!!
and warranty isn't voided with hardspl, just reflash to stock SPL before sending it in...
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oh did not know that, thanks for the enlightenment

URGENT: flashing back to stock for warrenty - all gone wrong

hi
i've need some help urgently on this as the phone is being picked up in the morning and its currently going really bad
i had dutties 3.9 rom on, but i found a 1.19 orange rom in the wiki, so installed this.
however the display is very bad, and is only showing 16 colours so looks rubbish
I belive this is to do with the SPL
This is what i did:
1. put phone in bootloader mode (was displaying SPL 1.56)
2. ran blac_uspl.exe in USB mode which changed the SPL to 1.15 (USPL)
3. installed the rom
did i do something wrong?
any help VERY appreciated
Thanks
Did you tried to flash back your original SPL??
USPL is just a temporary patch of the SPL...
I think you have to flash back to SPL 1.15...
To check if you have the right version put phone in bootloader mode it should displaying SPL 1.15...
Read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
D'rath
Ikkari said:
Did you tried to flash back your original SPL??
USPL is just a temporary patch of the SPL...
I think you have to flash back to SPL 1.15...
To check if you have the right version put phone in bootloader mode it should displaying SPL 1.15...
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thats the problem
i dont know how?
D'rath said:
Read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
D'rath
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Thanks but thats for Hard SPL, where as i used USPL
or am i getting it all wrong?
D'rath said:
Read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
D'rath
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Just look in the first post under:
How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!
very strange
its working now
just needed a hard reset!
thanks for your help
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scratch that, its displaying them stupid colours again
GREAT!
m.r.davies said:
Thanks but thats for Hard SPL, where as i used USPL
or am i getting it all wrong?
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You are getting it wrong!
USPL is a temporary patch to allow you to flash a unauthorized ROM!
You have currently SPL 1.56 installed, but you need flash back stock SPL 1.15
Ikkari said:
You are getting it wrong!
USPL is a temporary patch to allow you to flash a unauthorized ROM!
You have currently SPL 1.56 installed, but you need flash back stock SPL 1.15
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thanks
i understand the problem now
but the link that was posted talks about hard spl, and when it says about reverting the rom, it talks about using hard spl, which is where i'm getting confused
Could you clarify which steps i need to take as its still showing spl 1.54
thanks
m.r.davies said:
thanks
i understand the problem now
but the link that was posted talks about hard spl, and when it says about reverting the rom, it talks about using hard spl, which is where i'm getting confused
Could you clarify which steps i need to take as its still showing spl 1.54
thanks
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go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
view the very last part of first post. It teaches you EVERYTHING. I think the part that you confused is going from step3 to step4. Read carefully. =)
good luck.
m.r.davies said:
hi
i've need some help urgently on this as the phone is being picked up in the morning and its currently going really bad
i had dutties 3.9 rom on, but i found a 1.19 orange rom in the wiki, so installed this.
however the display is very bad, and is only showing 16 colours so looks rubbish
I belive this is to do with the SPL
This is what i did:
1. put phone in bootloader mode (was displaying SPL 1.56)
2. ran blac_uspl.exe in USB mode which changed the SPL to 1.15 (USPL)
3. installed the rom
did i do something wrong?
any help VERY appreciated
Thanks
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1. dnload the stock spl from the said thread.
2. dnload the hspl 1.56 olinex wrapper
3. connect ur fone to pc in the bootloader mode.
4. run the hspl 1.56 olinex wrapper and do nothing to the onscreen utility.
5. wait fr the files to be xtracted in the window from where u ran the hspl wrapper.
6. replace the self extracted ruu_signed.nbh with the stock spl 1.15 that u downloaded.
7. continue with the ruu utility.
thats all thts needed..
ultimatepichu said:
go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
view the very last part of first post. It teaches you EVERYTHING. I think the part that you confused is going from step3 to step4. Read carefully. =)
good luck.
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Thanks
yes you're right, it solved my problem
the reason i didn't try in the first place was becuase the title said HARD SPL and i didn't want to mess it up as i used USPL
i used Restore_Stock_SPL_115.zip and swapped the nbh file after initilizing installation (after extraction) and it worked great
thanks for all your help guys!!!!!!
i really appreiciate it
My god, I was feeling your anguish while reading this topic until the end...
Black Antitoon said:
My god, I was feeling your anguish while reading this topic until the end...
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I eventually went to bed at 2:30am
all sorted now and got my new phone!
woohoo

reconstructed at&t tilt 2 stock shipped rom for warranty return or cooking

i have reconstructed the stock at&t tilt 2 stock rom - including 0.87 spl, 4.48 radio, splash screen, and 21849 os
this is created in old rom kitchen and can be used for cooking
the main reason i did this is to offer at&t users the factory rom for warranty return reasons.
the rom can be found here: http://mobilitydigest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2113
for those who need this here you go
Great, thanks for this.. do you have just the 4.48 Radio (NBH or EXE)? Thanks
crachel said:
Great, thanks for this.. do you have just the 4.48 Radio (NBH or EXE)? Thanks
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i can do it but i am at work right now.....so later tonight i can do this if you like
herg62123 said:
i can do it but i am at work right now.....so later tonight i can do this if you like
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That would be very much appreciated Herg.
I'm already HardSPL (security) unlocked as well as SIM unlocked. I assume if I load this I will remain SIM unlocked, but my SPL will be security locked again?
Thanks!
Thanks!!!!
Awesome job, Thanks so much. I usually don't flash a new device untill I have the stock ROM on hand but I couldn't wait. I knew someone would get this done for us.
moderateinny said:
I'm already HardSPL (security) unlocked as well as SIM unlocked. I assume if I load this I will remain SIM unlocked, but my SPL will be security locked again?
Thanks!
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if you secruity and hard spl unlocked your device than both will still be unlocked after you flash this rom as well
So does this also carry over the proper keyboard as well? So that if I flash this ROM, it's basically like it's the exact same as if I had just bought a brand new Tilt2?
gadgetluva said:
So does this also carry over the proper keyboard as well? So that if I flash this ROM, it's basically like it's the exact same as if I had just bought a brand new Tilt2?
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this rom has everything in it that the stock rom that came on the device.
i didn't modify nothing, all i did was take the stock spl, stock radio, stock splash screen, and stock os and package it up
i didn't remove or add anything into it other than what came stock on the tilt 2
Thanks for all your hardwork.
If I restored to this ROM and then want to use a custom ROM later would I have to do the whole hardSPL thing again?
Great work Herg! This is exactly what many of us needed.
i needed it as well and since the actual rom wasn't released something needed to be done.....da_g gave some of the important files like radio, and spl so lets not forget him cause this was a joint effort to build
ultremann said:
Thanks for all your hardwork.
If I restored to this ROM and then want to use a custom ROM later would I have to do the whole hardSPL thing again?
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Good question (Bump)
ultremann said:
Thanks for all your hardwork.
If I restored to this ROM and then want to use a custom ROM later would I have to do the whole hardSPL thing again?
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That's actually one of the open questions on some of the other threads. Someone had to flash his back for a warranty return and reported that the SPL did not change back to 0.87 as expected. I've got an open request/PM with cmonex as they were going to try and post a properly signed 0.87 SPL only for warranty restoration but it looks as if they haven't gotten around to it yet...
BUT to answer the question, I believe that once you restore the SPL to a warranty version (be it 0.84 or 0.87) I think you do have to run HardSPL again if you want to put cooked ROMs on the phone.
herg, da_G, or others -- do you know if there was a specific way to restore the SPL using this image since it's packed in? I thought I remember someone saying that they tried the following sequence on an older phone (not sure if it would work on the Tilt2 since it does involve going to a previous stock SPL):
1. Flash the warranty ROM to the phone (i.e. the one herg posted)
2. Flash one of the other warranty SPLs (maybe 0.84?)
3. Flash the same ROM in #1 one more time (then the SPL should be correct)
Again, as I mentioned, I am not sure if it will work since after step #2, technically you would be off of the HardSPL and I am not sure if you would be able to flash again in step #3 since the ROM is not an official ATT signed one.
even though this is a reconstructed stock rom......it is treated like a cooked rom
the only difference is this contains all the pieces to create it (spl, radio, splash, and os)
herg62123 said:
even though this is a reconstructed stock rom......it is treated like a cooked rom
the only difference is this contains all the pieces to create it (spl, radio, splash, and os)
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So this means that the 3 step process I just posted above probably won't work, since after step #2 you would not be able to reflash the ROM since it is technically a cooked one as well.
Herg, Been following your work here and on Mobility Digest, I've been waiting for a stock rom before I flash my T2. Have you had any luck on the 4.48.25.20 radio (exe or nbh) yet. I'd like to try one of the other radios but want the stock one too.
Yeah, the SPL needs to be signed in order to be flashable. Either signed with the olinex cert to flash against the HSPL, or signed with the HTC cert to flash against the stock SPL.
I could upload the full .nbh of the test ROM, it would be signed with the HTC certs and may be accepted by the stock SPL (but it might be signed with a seperate test cert, too)
Wish I had gotten the stock ROM by now, but it's proving to be elusive
I want to return my phone to ATT not for the warranty reasons but because i am getting a better deal at some other retailer. so can i use this rom for the same purpose ?

Flashing Back to Stock ROM

can anyone give me a step by step on how to flash my ROM back to STOCK?
if you want it for warranty reasons then you will need to flash the SPL also to stock. you can just download the latest ROM from HTC website and flash it. it will give you the stock ROM on the existing SPL.
End of the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2710548&postcount=1.
Remember you will also need to go back to stock spl if for warranty purposes.
i have another problem, when in bootloader it wont change from serial to usb but was a week ago
7896zx said:
i have another problem, when in bootloader it wont change from serial to usb but was a week ago
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nevermind what i said there, for sum reason it works again now
I've kinda got thesame question. I flashed a stock rom (latest EU rom from HTC site), then stock SPL (1.14) and then the stock rom again. Is this enough to be able to claim warranty without HTC finding out about custom roms/boatloaders?
Thanks
accountabc said:
I've kinda got thesame question. I flashed a stock rom (latest EU rom from HTC site), then stock SPL (1.14) and then the stock rom again. Is this enough to be able to claim warranty without HTC finding out about custom roms/boatloaders?
Thanks
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That depends. What was your original rom and spl? Are you entitled (via location) to use the new EU rom, eg if you live in America then this may not be acceptable to HTC.
When you boot up the new rom, are the screen colours ok as this will tell you if you have the right spl for your rom? If you have the latest EU rom, I doubt that 1.14 spl would be the right one, but it could be I guess. With the stock rom, you should also get the stock radio. So provided you have the stock rom available to your area, with the correct matching spl and the radio, there is no way to tell of your exploits
Thanks for your reply
The problem is that the screen of my device won't turn on anymore (Device powers on, I can connect with activesync, digitizer works fine) so i have no way of checking if I have the right SPL or not...
I also have no idea what my stock rom/spl/radio version was.. I live in the Netherlands, and through the official HTC site i flashed the latest rom, which included a radio (a radio version was part of the filename). What I'm trying to find out is:
Could 1.14 have been my stock SPL, or was that version never used on any Dutch Blackstone?
If the spl doesn't match the rom (wrong colours) that isn't much of a problem; I can tell them I tried to update my rom because I thought maybe my screen would work again after I installed the latest ROM... But if I have a SPL that was never even used I don't think they will buy that
According to the wiki there are 2 Dutch roms - one would require a 1.14.0000 spl and the other a 1.54.0000 spl. So I guess either of those would do.
When you flashed the rom from the website, where you still using hspl or uspl? Depending on the rom you flashed you will need to flash the matching spl. Do you have the full notation/naming of the rom you flashed. This should give an indication of which spl you will need.
As much as I appreciate ClydeB1 for assisting you, I fail to see a reason for this thread. A thread already exists for flashing advice, i.e. the dummies guide. Also the HardSPL thread exists and has advice on how to flash back to stock. So depending on your query post in either of these.
The initial query and reason this thread was created has been answered, so no need for this thread to remain open. Thread closed

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