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Why is T-MO's BlueTooth so difficult to use?

The one thing I truly hate about my T-Mo MDA after 6 months is the difficulty using BlueTooth. I had an HP6315 (also T-Mo) which, despite all its other problems (like crashing everyday) had a far more sensible BlueTooth tool.
I don't have an issue with changing the stack--once I'm connected to a device I'm pretty much good, but the connection process is a serious pain in the patoot.
Before the impatient pros tell me "why don't you do a search before you post?" let me say that I have, and nobody I've found addresses this.
It's a really simple thing: every other device I own or have owned that uses B/T peripherals has a "Connect" choice. It doesn't matter if it was my 6315 Ipaq, my laptop computers, a Motorola cell phone or Samsung D-820/T-809 cell phones. All have the ability to force the connection. But the MDA doesn't, as far as I can tell. It either connects automatically, or you (frequently) have to delete the device and initiate a new search for it.
Am I missing something? Is this just the way the MDA is? Is there a piece of software or a registry hack that allows you to force it to connect?
I'm also curious as to why a regular telephone headset won't play back from Windows Media or BetaPlayer. It would very nicely on the 6315 Ipaq and still functioned as a phone. Any ideas? And, the reason I like to do that is I have a long commute and like to listen to Pimsleur language CDs (ripped to MP3) in the car. They work through the wired headset, but I can't stand wired headsets. I can imagine books on CD would also be enjoyable that way.
Thanks!

Yanktar03 said:
I'm also curious as to why a regular telephone headset won't play back from Windows Media or BetaPlayer. It would very nicely on the 6315 Ipaq and still functioned as a phone. Any ideas? And, the reason I like to do that is I have a long commute and like to listen to Pimsleur language CDs (ripped to MP3) in the car. They work through the wired headset, but I can't stand wired headsets. I can imagine books on CD would also be enjoyable that way.
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You can do this. Get BTAudio.

Its not tmobile it the windows bluetooth stack. i have no problems but most people like the widcomm stack because its simple and easy. you should also try a bluetooth stereo headset its good thing to buy if you dont like wired headsets but advise to buy when having extra cash or look for a low price. prices are going down for some reason where i live

I DO have B/T stereo headphones, a pair of Jensens and a pair of IO gear. The latter list for around $150 or more, but a friend bought 2 pair (accidentally) off the 'net for about $35/per. That's what I gave him. The Jensens cost a little more but not much. Both make the HPs look like junk and are far more comfortable.
The problem is in my state it is VERY illegal to wear headphones while you drive. You can wear them on one ear, but not both.
Next, if you use them (not while driving) you are forced to use them as either stereo OR as a mono telephone headset--check the B/T settings.
It never fails to amaze me how if M/S has 5 or 10 choices, they will ALWAYS choose the most difficult to use (and idiosyncratic), the least useful, and the least reliable.

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I'm also curious as to why a regular telephone headset won't play back from Windows Media or BetaPlayer.
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Thanks, I appreciate your responding.

transmitter program for kaiser

Hi all:
recently at work one of my collegues was showing me a program in his phone (sprint's muzak..not sure about spelling, by samsung) called "Trasmitter". This program allows him to "transmit" music/mp3 files from his cell phone to a FM radio station of his choice in his car thus enabling him to listen the music through car speakers.
A week agao i had read here about a way to transmit music to car speakers using motorala equipment using bluetooth however that piece of equipment is 99 $ and this program is probably alot cheaper.
Does anyone know if a program like this exists or can be created for Kaiser/tilt/tytnII?
...p.s. conversation started by us comparing phones, which i couldn't believe he was trying to compare his 50$ phone to my 600 tilt, but he got me when he showed me that program .. something my tilt can't do :-(
any suggestions/answers/comments appreciated.

u're probably referring to the muziq, by LG. its not all just software based, it has a built fm transmitter. if you want that function for your device, then you need to buy an fm transmitter.

Yeah that is not a software issue...the kaiser does not have a built in fm transmitter, so you will need to buy a 3rd party piece of hardware in order to accomplish this. Try googling or looking on eBay...alternatively several manufactures are making bluetooth compatible in dash stereos that will work with the built-in bluetooth compatibilities of the kaiser.

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thanks guys 4 replying so promptly. i'll search around to see if there is any cheaper bluetooth equipment than motorola. i'll let u guys know if i find anything.

The cheapest way is as ajmoncrief said: get an RF modulator, they're like $15 at Radio Shack, and a $5 USB to headphone adapter to connect the RF modulator to the phone. Works like a champ. You could also go ghetto-style and, instead of the RF modulator, use one of those cassette-looking things with the wire that us old folk used to hook our diskman up to the stereo, that'll work just as well and is a bit cheaper.

Cool Bluetooth Audio Streaming/Phone Calls Device

I bought a cool little device today that does bluetooth audio streaming and also offers a handsfree phone solution for cars that have an AUX jack.
It's called a Griffin BlueTrip. I got it at my local Apple store and so far I have to say it works really well.
The phone aspect of it is just OK but for the price of the device it does the job well enough for me.
I can press the button and tell it who to call and it works pretty well so far. Press the button to hang up if you like etc...
People that I called said I sounded OK... I sounded like I was on a speaker phone but they could understand me without any issues and they said it sounded like there was some wind noise behind me.. but not too bad. Comparing it to how another family member sounds on their factory car bluetooth solution on a scale of 1-10 they said it was about a 7 to 8.
I used Winamp Shoutcast to test the audio and it sounded great (audio streaming is the main reason that I purchased the device.. the phone is just a bonus).
The device appears to remember the pairing with my Nexus S just fine after the car is shut off and started again.
I'll be using it day to day and I have two weeks to return it if I decide it wasn't worth it but so far I think it's great.
It also has a low profile.. so it's not this big messy wiring fiasco.
http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/bluetrip-aux
Belkin also makes a similar product but I haven't used it or heard anything about it. Their's is called AirCast I think.

I think the Kensington version is a better featured and cheaper solution
http://us.kensington.com/html/14484.html
I bought it off Amazon for $40.00 and it works perfectly.

bluetooth hands free mic pioneer stereo issues, people don't hear me.

I had a pioneer deh-x6700bt stereo installed recently that has Bluetooth and hands free wired mic that clips behind the rear view mirror. My son in law did the install for me and he works and mods all kinds of cars so I don't think it was the install itself.
Everything works except when I make a call people don't hear me speak and have to grab my phone and turn on the speaker on the phone to use. It pairs with Bluetooth fine using my music via my phone's sd card and pandora etc.
I sent pioneer and email and they sent me a new mic to install, but had the same issue. The phone I'm using is an AT&T S5 on rooted 4.4.4
Wondering if anyone else has had issues with pioneer systems and found a fix.

Ha, Ha 45 views and nuttin? I figured someone would have something to say on the subject.
Tomorrow I will have some time to play around with it and use my wife's unrooted S5. Also borrow other phones to see if they work.
I have a feeling it's a setting within the radio itself (I hope). I'm not ripping it out if I can't get it to work. It is what it is.

The only thing i can think of is you do not have the phone paired proper you should see 2 profiles in your Bluetooth one with a headphone next to it and ine with a telephone reciver next to it for the same unit
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Thanks for the reply rurigokou. I actually do have the two profiles synced.
I tried everything and have come to the conclusion it is a problem with the head unit itself. I called best buy and the manager was very gracious and is going to have a tech do some diagnostics on the unit for me.
If they find a problem I'm guessing they will switch out the unit, since that is where I purchased it. I have studded tires on the front of the car and have to grab others for me to take it in (here in Oregon the tires need to be changed early this year cause of the good weather , March 30).
Thanks for the reply rurigokou.

I have exact same issue

Gonna try new mic

Dialer - Bluetooth Audio Source Switching

My gut tells me this maybe a lollipop issue in general.
*On a call
*Another call comes in
*Nexus 6 switches audio source to handset
*Call is no longer on my Bluetooth earpiece
This can happen too when email / SMS arrives. I read about a lot of car BT based issues...this is just in the headset now.
Anyone out there feeling this too?

There is a problem with Bluetooth in Lollipop or the Nexus 6
3's&7's said:
My gut tells me this maybe a lollipop issue in general.
*On a call
*Another call comes in
*Nexus 6 switches audio source to handset
*Call is no longer on my Bluetooth earpiece
This can happen too when email / SMS arrives. I read about a lot of car BT based issues...this is just in the headset now.
Anyone out there feeling this too?
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Not many people use BT in their car or daily life at this point in time. Can't tell you how many people I see driving around with a phone in one hand and a steering wheel in the other. Kind of like people here in the USA that don't use cruise control on the highway when clearly you know that their car has it. But I've been hands free in cars for over six years in fact since the HTC HD2 came out. I realized at that point, that to be safe one must use BT and have equipment in car to support this. It's becoming a law in most states in the USA but not all and is not enforced by law as much as it should be, but those times are going to change. There are some forums on the web that talk about bluetooth in lollipop and many of them are confused and think they know what the problem is, but none have proved it yet. There are also other sources that claim BT is on it's way out, I don't know about that. But yes, there are some weird things happening with bluetooth if you use it a lot. I don't know what the answer may be to your problem but you might want to try a search on google to find out more information about this issue. Good luck.

vvveith said:
Not many people use BT in their car or daily life at this point in time. Can't tell you how many people I see driving around with a phone in one hand and a steering wheel in the other. Kind of like people here in the USA that don't use cruise control on the highway when clearly you know that their car has it. But I've been hands free in cars for over six years in fact since the HTC HD2 came out. I realized at that point, that to be safe one must use BT and have equipment in car to support this. It's becoming a law in most states in the USA but not all and is not enforced by law as much as it should be, but those times are going to change. There are some forums on the web that talk about bluetooth in lollipop and many of them are confused and think they know what the problem is, but none have proved it yet. There are also other sources that claim BT is on it's way out, I don't know about that. But yes, there are some weird things happening with bluetooth if you use it a lot. I don't know what the answer may be to your problem but you might want to try a search on google to find out more information about this issue. Good luck.
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Interesting perspective and ty for taking the time to post this.
Back to the point though; anyone out there having these types of specific challenges with Bluetooth on the N6 as I described above? It really makes this phone unusable for me @ work.

Yes, I also use BT in my vehicle. It used to connect through my car speakers automatically, but now im finding that when making/receiving a call, I need to manually tell it to switch to car speakers. I mean, why the hell would my car speakers stop playing regular radio when a call comes in and to make me still use my handset to talk/listen?having to manually switch to car speakers is dangerouse while on the freeway.

jc0187 said:
Yes, I also use BT in my vehicle. It used to connect through my car speakers automatically, but now im finding that when making/receiving a call, I need to manually tell it to switch to car speakers. I mean, why the hell would my car speakers stop playing regular radio when a call comes in and to make me still use my handset to talk/listen?having to manually switch to car speakers is dangerouse while on the freeway.
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I was experiencing something similar.
I had a 2009 model Pioneer AVIC-x910BT headunit in my truck. And bluetooth worked fine until I got my Nexus 6 (coming from a Nexus 5 and Nexus 4). The Nexus 6 would mute my car audio properly, but when I picked up the phone, the phonecall was on the phone and not the car speakers.
I have the same car, but now I have a 2015 model Pioneer AVIC-8100NEX with Android Auto, and have not had one BT issue yet. I am assuming that the issue was either the N6 or Lollipop5.0 was having issues with the older BT technology my old radio used. Now that I have the newer radio, no call issues yet.

jc0187 said:
Yes, I also use BT in my vehicle. It used to connect through my car speakers automatically, but now im finding that when making/receiving a call, I need to manually tell it to switch to car speakers. I mean, why the hell would my car speakers stop playing regular radio when a call comes in and to make me still use my handset to talk/listen?having to manually switch to car speakers is dangerouse while on the freeway.
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Could you share the model and make or the car?
to confirm my understanding,the call audio was on phone speaker and you had to manually select the it every time?
Was this working in the past for you?
Does this happen for every call or only during multiparty call?

I am now using a different BT headset, Jabra, and the model is at least a year old. I think I am going to look for a completely new model of bluetooth headset / earpiece that came on the market much more recently and see if this makes a difference.
I have been using a wired headset to avoid these challenges, but very much miss hands free use for phone calls. Anyone else feeling this issue out there?

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It has happened to me as well. I use a Jabra Tour BT speakerphone, while having music streamed via a BB BT gateway to my car speakers When on the phone and another call / sms /email comes in, the phone connection to Jabra Tour is dropped, I have to manually reconnect (but after reconnecting to Jabra the phone call ends, somehow the media stream switches from BB gateway to Jabra = more manual switching). Unsafe to be doing this on a highway. My Galaxy Note 3 and prior to that Galaxy S3 worked perfectly well with the same setup.
I understand that Nexus 6 takes advantage of the new BT tech, but it should have been made backwards compatible with the older BT devices.