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Just got my Iphone....

great success! Supports Exchange!!! but no Push mail yet...

Well done, let me be the first to offer my condolences....
Ill just stick with my Athena thanks. Seriously though, is it actualy any good?

i want one!!

phamoui said:
great success! Supports Exchange!!! but no Push mail yet...
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two months from now, when the shinny'ness wares off, you'll miss your pocket pc/smartphone

to hiimclif:
My brother bought an iphone today and was previously using a cingular 8125 and the iphone is so far above the technology of anything i have ever used. Don't get me wrong im sure its not a good comparison of the two phones. But within just the 10 minutes i was able to play with it i truely found it to be far supperior to any current ppc/smartphone. The design and layout is so much more fluent then windows its rediculous. im sure your much more knowledgable about everything, but as a normal user and not a hardcore junkie about everything i would never see myself going back to my cingular 8125. And im not biased towards anything i havent owned an apple product in my life but i can truely say this is an amazing piece of technology that blows The HTCtouch and what i believe just about everything else out of the water

lol Thats cuz you had a 8125.. Get a Hermes and tell me how much you would never go back to PPC. .

I don't have any plans to drop my Athena.
Iphone is a smartphone and that's it.
It's finn, and very fast,
Now I need to unlock, anybody?

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lol Thats cuz you had a 8125.. Get a Hermes and tell me how much you would never go back to PPC. .
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Hey, can you tell me about the hermes. you are talking about the 8525 right?
Is the processor 400mhz a big difference to the 8125, 200mhz.
Is it also USB 2.0 transfer. I really hate the 8125's slow usb 1.0 transfer. Have to take my card out of the phone and use a seperate reader to transfer my moviez and songs.

btw, any sim unlocker avail for this iphone ?

iPhone doesn't have a SIM card.

daddy_yankee1980 said:
Hey, can you tell me about the hermes. you are talking about the 8525 right?
Is the processor 400mhz a big difference to the 8125, 200mhz.
Is it also USB 2.0 transfer. I really hate the 8125's slow usb 1.0 transfer. Have to take my card out of the phone and use a seperate reader to transfer my moviez and songs.
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try looking up wm5torage

yes it does...
http://www.nytimes.com/ref/business/20070627_POGUE_GRAPHIC.html#
last I checked all GSM phones did..

phamoui said:
Iphone is a smartphone and that's it.
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Where do you get an additional applications for it?
Where is the software development kits?
Without these things its not a smartphone.

Madcap180 said:
iPhone doesn't have a SIM card.
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Um.
I hear iPhone also eats babies, and is made with the skins of 3 day old sealpups, and supports $cientology.
Of course it has a bloody SIM card. Try looking something up before stating "facts" about it

Ingvarr said:
Where do you get an additional applications for it?
Where is the software development kits?
Without these things its not a smartphone.
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Does a hell of a lot more stuff than my old dialphone does. At what point does a phone become smart? Email? Contacts? Address book you can edit? Internet access? VPN and webapps? Desktop-derived operating system?
SDK doesn't make the device a smartphone. You couldn't run anything on the UK-Market Three A925, unless Three published it - sure, you could get a Symbian SDK from somewhere for UIQ, but Three didn't make it "legal" or "easy" to get UIQ apps onto the device.
I think most people will agree the existence of an SDK doesn't not define a define as a smartphone.
I read somewhere the lack of 3G is actually due to the Qualcomm chip injunction. Wonder if there's a grain of truth in that...

Phone becomes smart when you can develop & install native third-party applications for it, that blends unlimited functionality of personal computer into phone platform.
Otherwise its just an ordinary phone - every phone have an OS and set of default applications inside, some very rich, hovewer these are not smartphones.
Btw, there is no probs in getting devkits for UIQ. Currently the main hassle is mandatory signing, but its still not closed platform. IPhone is.

RichardKAthena said:
Um.
I hear iPhone also eats babies, and is made with the skins of 3 day old sealpups, and supports $cientology.
Of course it has a bloody SIM card. Try looking something up before stating "facts" about it
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I think what he meant was the iPhone doesn't have a REMOVABLE SIM card. There isn't a way to access it (although I'm sure you could if you pulled the phone apart) because the battery also ISN'T removeable along with there being no back cover. This phone is just one big 'thing'.
-Nstefanelli-
HERMES IS BETTER

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I think what he meant was the iPhone doesn't have a REMOVABLE SIM card. There isn't a way to access it (although I'm sure you could if you pulled the phone apart) because the battery also ISN'T removeable along with there being no back cover. This phone is just one big 'thing'.
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Umm, if its a CDMA phone, its no wonder it have no SIM card.
SIM card is GSM thing, CDMA phones do not use "cards".

Some real Facts
Ok Guys, some real facts regarding my Iphone:
-of course there is a SIM Card. (cames with a blank sim card to activate via Itunes)
-Yes it's a smartphone, Why? Because you can install and unistall widgets applications (just like Mac OS widgets)
-Do not record VIDEOS (So youtube it's only to vivew some videos) maybe next firmware update will enable the camera to record
At this moment I'm trying to hack the device and Itunes to unlock my device, Do you guy know any other forum ? maybe like iphone-developers... I will post my review at
http://www.techguru.com.br

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-Yes it's a smartphone, Why? Because you can install and unistall widgets applications (just like Mac OS widgets)
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A lot of ordinary phones allow to install java applets, hovewer it does not make them smartphones.
As with iPhone widgets these are not true native applications, as they run in "sandboxed" environment and do not have the full access to phone hardware and OS features.
Apple declared already that they *maybe* will consider "opening" the iPhone and making it a true smartphone, but they said that "we will need to sort out security issues first".

Can somebody pleace explain this?

ok, i've already signed the drivers perition for the kaiser on his forum but there is something that i do not understand. say htc does agre to give us the drivers, wont this be a hardware change or will it be a software on. if hardware thing then how wil they pull back all of the already sold kaisers? if it's a software change, cam' somebody here cook a rom that will get the drivers working? watching vids on the tilt isn't the greatest so can somebody please explain this to me. thanks

kareem9nba said:
ok, i've already signed the drivers perition for the kaiser on his forum but there is something that i do not understand. say htc does agre to give us the drivers, wont this be a hardware change or will it be a software on. if hardware thing then how wil they pull back all of the already sold kaisers? if it's a software change, cam' somebody here cook a rom that will get the drivers working? watching vids on the tilt isn't the greatest so can somebody please explain this to me. thanks
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Drivers are a set of instructions for the hardware...

In short:
Software

Well to explain it a little bit, the problem on the actual firmware/drivers is, that they aren't optimized enough for the video performance stuff... so they want htc to work on the drivers for that stuff, to use the full capacity of the current internal hardware!
So the hardware it self is good and has the capacity for improvements, but the htc frimware/drivers are not able to use it.
So if HTC works on the driver they can get a lot more power/performance out of the current hardware

Imagine someone selling computer chips without telling anyone how to use them. Chips need to receive a specific set of instructions and provide a specific set of results.
We are not mad that HTC sold us a device that is missing a chip, we are mad that HTC sold us a chip that doesn't fully function. They have sold us an engine without the timing computer and are telling us we should push our cars everywhere.

gthing said:
Imagine someone selling computer chips without telling anyone how to use them. Chips need to receive a specific set of instructions and provide a specific set of results.
We are not mad that HTC sold us a device that is missing a chip, we are mad that HTC sold us a chip that doesn't fully function. They have sold us an engine without the timing computer and are telling us we should push our cars everywhere.
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I'm so over this whole "HTC owes me", and so on... At the end of the day, it plays back videos. Not as well as it could, agreed - But it plays them. This is not the PRIMARY function of the device - please stop comparing it to the cars engine. Keep it in perspective... I'd say this function is more comparable it to say a cars factory stereo system.
HTC didn't sell you a video player, they sold you a phone, that also has HEAPS of other functions, video playback being ONE of them. So many things about the phone are great, but that doesn't seem to matter apparantly.
The Kaiser is a huge improvement in many ways over the Hermes, so I think it's a fantastic product
Sorry, but time for everyone to just get over that "I'm a victim" attitude already... Every second thread there's non stop whining about it.
I can't believe no one else seems to agree with me on this.... absolutely ridiculous.

greeek said:
I can't believe no one else seems to agree with me on this.... absolutely ridiculous.
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I do.. Wholeheartedly!

so youre moaning about people moaning?

fusi said:
so youre moaning about people moaning?
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Ha Ha.. ya got me there!! Good one.

Well then, can't some good rom cooker cook a rom with the included drivers that perfects the tilt?

kareem9nba said:
Well then, can't some good rom cooker cook a rom with the included drivers that perfects the tilt?
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Well, they can't cook in software drivers that don't exist yet.
Maybe when a product that uses the same chip that also has the proper drivers comes out.
Now I agree with the poster that says it's not a big deal, it is a phone after all. But if we can get it implemented even better. I wouldn't go crazy over it, but there nothing wrong with keeping the manufacturers honest so they give us the best product possible.

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I'm so over this whole "HTC owes me", and so on...
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Sorry mate, but even when compared with a car stereo the lack of proper drivers is a major issue.
Imagine buying a new BMW E92 as an upgrade from E46, with a Pioneer/Kenwood/Sony/Altec Lansing/Sehnheiser speaker system installed and wired to a... TAPEDECK, which also happens to be out of sync with the cassete and does not have enough power to drive the speakers, at all, and I'm talking about whisper-level volume. Sure, it gets you around and looks bling-y and has a bundled GPS and audio playback is not a primary feature of a car, but for some reason your old E46 and your neighbours Toyota Corolla does a better job at it (not to mention that it runs longer on one gas refill).
You paid a big wad of cash for a device advertised and priced as "ultimate", yet it lacks a feature you got used to having on your previous one and the manufacturer doesnt even have the decency to admit its mistake, dont you think you have every bit of a reason to be mad at them?

Yes Mikeer... HTC the big fascist company that it is has robbed you and many others! Everyone is so hard done by, and it's not fair what they've done!
I'll contact 60 minutes, you contact the News, and we'll meet back here in an hour to discuss how we can get whats rightfully ours!!
Those bastards...

greeek said:
Yes Mikeer... HTC the big fascist company that it is has robbed you and many others! Everyone is so hard done by, and it's not fair what they've done!
I'll contact 60 minutes, you contact the News, and we'll meet back here in an hour to discuss how we can get whats rightfully ours!!
Those bastards...
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I see your point and I don't feel HTC owes me anything. HTC should at least, deliver on what they advertise.
My 1st generation Kaiser aka Tmobile MDA played back video without any stutters. I would expect that a successor device developed two hardware cycles later work better than it's little brother.

unorthodoxx said:
I see your point and I don't feel HTC owes me anything. HTC should at least, deliver on what they advertise.
My 1st generation Kaiser aka Tmobile MDA played back video without any stutters. I would expect that a successor device developed two hardware cycles later work better than it's little brother.
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And thats quite simply just one small disappointing factor in the device.
Myself, instead of petitioning and whatever other nonsense, put it down to an aspect of the device that wasn't as good this time around. Next device release, I'd look at it to see if I wanted to go down that path again... If it bothered me that much, I'd move on to a different brand and be done with it...
Build a bridge people...

greeek said:
HTC didn't sell you a video player, they sold you a phone, that also has HEAPS of other functions, video playback being ONE of them. So many things about the phone are great, but that doesn't seem to matter apparantly.
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Actually, it seems too me that its a Pocket PC first, a phone/messaging second .

greeek said:
And thats quite simply just one small disappointing factor in the device.
Myself, instead of petitioning and whatever other nonsense, put it down to an aspect of the device that wasn't as good this time around. Next device release, I'd look at it to see if I wanted to go down that path again... If it bothered me that much, I'd move on to a different brand and be done with it...
Build a bridge people...
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Another disappointing factor is the so-and-so quality of the 3 MP camera. About half of the photos I have shot with my TyTN II have turned out worse than what I got from my old i-mate JASJAM. Auto focus seems to be missing often on landscape shots and has difficulties with infinity:
(Click on image for full size photo.)
Compare the above TyTN II photo with the JASJAM photo I posted here.
Plus that the photo quality looks like 2 MP photos interpolated up to 3 MP size. So I usually keep the camera set to 2 MP :-(
(Apologies for side-tracking the topic of this thread.)
Overall I would say though that I am fairly satisfied but I doubt that my next smartphone will be anything produced by HTC.

abubasim said:
Overall I would say though that I am fairly satisfied but I doubt that my next smartphone will be anything produced by HTC.
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Cool, like I say... next time you may decide not buy HTC - thats the price a company can pay if you don't like their product. Doesn't mean that they are obligated to do anything for you now... At the end of the day, their product does what they said it would - even if it's not to the standard of some of these users...

what are the chances that we will get these drivers? high or low? will it be a whole new rom? maybe windows6.1 or just 6? If they're thinking of 6.1 then we probably wont get these drivers till mid next year. photon will almost be out by then. any chances we get them before the end of the year or no?

greeek said:
I'm so over this whole "HTC owes me", and so on... At the end of the day, it plays back videos. Not as well as it could, agreed - But it plays them. This is not the PRIMARY function of the device - please stop comparing it to the cars engine. Keep it in perspective... I'd say this function is more comparable it to say a cars factory stereo system.
HTC didn't sell you a video player, they sold you a phone, that also has HEAPS of other functions, video playback being ONE of them. So many things about the phone are great, but that doesn't seem to matter apparantly.
The Kaiser is a huge improvement in many ways over the Hermes, so I think it's a fantastic product
Sorry, but time for everyone to just get over that "I'm a victim" attitude already... Every second thread there's non stop whining about it.
I can't believe no one else seems to agree with me on this.... absolutely ridiculous.
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Did you forget about the crappy camera?

HTC devices are boring

Is it me or do these devices get boring after awhile? I'm thinking about intentionally bricking my Tilt and restoring it just so I have something to do with it. Pretty pathetic I know. Nothing new or innovative has been released for it yet.

Haha, this wasn't quite the thread I was expecting, thank God. But I think this happens with all phones. I thought the Tilt was the coolest thing ever and now that I have had it for a couple months I'm kind of bored with it. I felt the same way about the iPhone and the Blackberries that I have had too though, so I don't think you can really specify that it is HTC devices. It is kind of the reason for innovation, people get bored with things faster and faster these days.

it's even worse for those who don't have pockets full of cash to fork over for lots of software for these devices.freebies help but not everyone enjoys trials and simply can't spend on numerous programs

dyetheskin said:
it's even worse for those who don't have pockets full of cash to fork over for lots of software for these devices.freebies help but not everyone enjoys trials and simply can't spend on numerous programs
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yeah so true
Sometimes i flash a random rom to 'try it' then eventually flash back to the previous only to spend the day setting it up when im done after a few hours i find myself looking through the rom section again for something new and exciting *sigh*

dyetheskin said:
Is it me or do these devices get boring after awhile? I'm thinking about intentionally bricking my Tilt and restoring it just so I have something to do with it. Pretty pathetic I know. Nothing new or innovative has been released for it yet.
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Try getting an xbox360/college course/woman/life to play with :-D

Infuruno said:
yeah so true
Sometimes i flash a random rom to 'try it' then eventually flash back to the previous only to spend the day setting it up when im done after a few hours i find myself looking through the rom section again for something new and exciting *sigh*
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Ahhhh, I find myself doing the same thing. Just trying to make the stupid little things work on different roms only to come back to one that I loved a month ago.

HTC should never have started using Qualcomm hardware.
Wonder if there's a contract between them and how long it'll last

Yes it is true! But if it wasn't for XDA, I wouldn't have known any better and would have stuck with the preinstalled apps, lived a dull life, not got to pick on iPhone users, gone through the NOOB hazing, Etc.

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Try getting an xbox360/college course/woman/life to play with :-D
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already own a 360, already have a wife, and i mess with the phone when i'm bored at work thank you very much

why not just look at stupid youtube videos all day. That's never boring.

youtube sucks,luckily that flashvideobundle shows other sites compatible. i personally like vtap,quicker searches and does more than searching youtube

cmon HTC, release the drivers as a birthday present for me LOL

It's human nature! We just get bored after some period of use; not just HTC but every gadgets or anything.
What do you think is the reason, why we have so much of divorces?

lemonanisaki said:
It's human nature! We just get bored after some period of use; not just HTC but every gadgets or anything.
What do you think is the reason, why we have so much of divorces?
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Or so much Wars...

boring phone ?
ahh,but do you actualy still enjoy using htc,or are all the little niggles getting to you ?
after 4 years still liked the way my old sony p910i felt,i.e button feel,scroll wheel/rocker etc... wonderful grapics,not bad sound
enjoyed old lucas games on p910i,monkey island,samNmax etc
not on kaiser...bluetooth sound ??and with no hope of video drivers,and pretty awful support from htc all round,kaiser will probably be first and last htc.. dull little phone,makes goodish modem for kids pc....
anybody with a briefcase full of spare cash,donations to my sony xperia begging fund will gratefuly accepted !!!
(yes i know it will be made by htc,but vw build bentleys )

Try operating it with your other hand. It will seem like a new device.

rienzi said:
Try operating it with your other hand. It will seem like a new device.
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Good tip- it may just work!

Buy new apps!
Find an app that manages/enhances your hobby or day to day tasks.

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Try operating it with your other hand. It will seem like a new device.
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I hear this device when I was a teenager from a friend only it was about............. Never mind.
gqstatus0685 said:
why not just look at stupid youtube videos all day. That's never boring.
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Case and Point. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kib05Ip6GSo

How many years do I have to wait b4 I get my true "do it all" device?
I was reading about Sharp's new Willcom D4 UMPC today and thinking damn - it's kinda like my tilt - and an actuall real computer!
getting closer!!!
but I want it to make phone calls - not skype.....but driving cross country through the boonies traditional cell phone roaming cell phone service.
and I want 3g, gps, wifi and hell....a 5 megapixel decent looking camera/video.....and def @ least 8 full use hours (streaming video via wifi with the audio sent to my bluetooth headphones hours)
Also I'd like a nice cradle like the oqo for home/office use on traditional moniter/keyboard/mouse.
And of course it's gotta fit in my [email protected] least in the cargo pants pocket size
I know its gunna be a while....but how long u guys think?
5 years for my true do it all perfect device? I guess I'll have to wait - but Id quickly drop 2-3 grand on it today....if only it existed.
(does Microsoft want this device to exist today? is there a purpose for windows mobile when this device comes out? Is microsoft the reason for the "seperation" of the 2 OS's of the htc shift? why can't they communicate between each other fluently? why cant I make a traditional (non skype) phone call on the xp side of this device? - The everun seems to be able to do it though. - I know the technology is not quite yet here to get all these features in a pocketable device - but were soooooooo close it seems)
/dreaming of running cubase (music production software)/photoshop/etc. etc. @ work instead of just attempting to read engadget on a wannabe browser (my current fav is skyfire or opera.....but both leave me wanting more) on my pocketable (tilt) "do it all" device
/dreams and crazy glues an oqo to the back of my att tilt and puts a car battery in my backpack

has any of you gone from an iphone 4 to HD7?

Ok guys i have an iphone 4 and i'm thinking of getting a HD7 have any of you done that and regretted it? or thought is was the best move ever? i'm on the verge of making the move but obviously it is alot of money if it isn't right...My girlfriend has just got one and i like it..but obviously it isn't mine!!!...
The apps on itunes are just plain overcrowed now and apps is no biggy for me any more...as i have an ipad if need be and obviously windows 7 has MS games which some are good.
what do you think?

You might find this link helpful:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mthree/archive/2010/11/19/iphone-to-wp7-111910.aspx

thanks but that is more of a sales pitch blog...lol...i want real peoples experiences...anyone??

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thanks but that is more of a sales pitch blog...lol...i want real peoples experiences...anyone??
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No, it's a guide to help you help you migrate. Should you decide that's what you want to do.

yes and i appericiate that thanks...i just wondered if anyone has made the move...i'm stuck whether to keep the phone or not..

Nearly there...
I'm a iPhone 4 32Gb owner since June launch day with a HTC HD7 on it's way to me in the next few days or week (all depending on USPS First Class International Mail!). Once I get it, I will upgrade it with a SanDisk 32GB Class 2 with help with another thread here.
I'm looking forward to the HTC HD7 and I know deep down there will be some things that will niggle me about WP7... however, I just want to have decent notification which WP7 has! Jailbreaking the iPhone has been easy (but the present jailbreak is 'teathered'- urgh!).
I've been using 'Notify Pro' which has been a pain on the iPhone. To be honest, I thought why am I wasting my time with this buggy third party app from Cydia to get something which should be standard in the first place. I'm also impressed how it has so far integrated FaceBook in WP7, but Twitter needs some tweaking I hear.
I most probably miss the 'iPod ecosystem' (docks and car ICE) but hoping the WP7 UI will wow me and the screen size does look great for browsing the Internet and watching media (Use to have a HTC HD2 and loved the screen but not the constant rebooting!).
I'm planning to keep the iPhone 4 and HD7 for a few months... perhaps, Microsoft's upgrade in January might swing it for me finally!

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yes and i appericiate that thanks...i just wondered if anyone has made the move...i'm stuck whether to keep the phone or not..
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I have had both
they are both excellent
the HD7 has a superior user interface, in that you can switch between a tiled status screen and a list of icons. Its also slicker and cooler (whatever that means )
the larger screen is great. the web browser is slightly slower but it can render some things the iphone browser can't, e.g. go to unlocking.com and try the drop-downs on the iphone ..... I will also be able to do flash at some point, something apple has vowed not to do
its drawbacks are that the app storee has some fun stuff but its small compared to apple. The biggest thing about the WM7 user interface, the active tiles, need to be expanded more. i would like something "HTC sense" like. Obviously we are also waiting for cut & paste in the Jan firmware release.
There is apossibility of expanding the HD7's memory manually as well, as its actually an embedded MicroSD card which many folk have already taken out and replaced with a 32gb one.

thanks alexander for your insight..its just i have had an iphone since 3g, 3gs, 4 and suddenly i thought i need a change i also have had hd2 which i loved..but because of the bugs it had to go..i also have 32gb iphone 4 but one thing is bothering me is "you don't know what you have got until it has gone" i think i will have another go tonight

colonel said:
I have had both
they are both excellent
the HD7 has a superior user interface, in that you can switch between a tiled status screen and a list of icons. Its also slicker and cooler (whatever that means )
the larger screen is great. the web browser is slightly slower but it can render some things the iphone browser can't, e.g. go to unlocking.com and try the drop-downs on the iphone ..... I will also be able to do flash at some point, something apple has vowed not to do
its drawbacks are that the app storee has some fun stuff but its small compared to apple. The biggest thing about the WM7 user interface, the active tiles, need to be expanded more. i would like something "HTC sense" like. Obviously we are also waiting for cut & paste in the Jan firmware release.
There is apossibility of expanding the HD7's memory manually as well, as its actually an embedded MicroSD card which many folk have already taken out and replaced with a 32gb one.
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Thank you..So what would you choose? ip4 or hd7?

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Thank you..So what would you choose? ip4 or hd7?
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it depends on the person. the iphone is more compact and more beautiful (although the HT7 is also very nice).
you first need to decide whether you are comfortable with the size of the device.
also, have you purchased many iphone apps ? you might have "buyer remorse" letting these go
i personally continue to use both. I get bored of the iphone very quickly, then the HD7 is more fun. But then I miss my apps so go back to the iphone for a bit ....
If you have no app investment then definitely try out the HD7

Hello,
I have both and to be honest, I don't know which one to advice..... ;-))
Both are great in differents ways, iPhone is iPhone and I have had one since the first model. I have had plenty of Windows mobile device about 15, I guess.
Now, WP7 looks great, integration with Facebook and of course Xbox live...this is THE point.
I love having my Xbox live account with me all the time, having success on my phone when away from home....
On an other side, I'm so used to my iPhone, I have plenty of softwares I know and I like very much....
So, I decieded to keep both for the moment with 2 SIM cards, like this I have the best from both....
To be honest I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab as well and it's so great....
So the best, if you have enought money, is to have one of each... ;-))
Regards,

I went from iPhone 3G S to the HTC HD7 (T-Mobile branded). There's not much I'm missing. Maybe tethering but I'm sure that will soon be fixed. I like not having to convert anymore of my music. I can load the CD and burn it to hard drive and I can play it straight away on the phone. I don't have to convert it to Apple format to make it portable. I like that I can swap the battery too. Couldn't do that with iPhone. There's a few other nuances but that will happen with anything new. That's only one perspective though. Keep watching for the suggestions and feedback.

I have both the iPhone 4 (haven't sold yet) and the HD7 (just got).
I feel like the operating system on the HD7 is so much better than iOS, but that is going to be personal preference, varying with what people want to do, how techy they are, etc.
As far as the actual phones go, I love the HD7. It's not a retina display, but the size is fantastic and colors vibrant.
Honestly, the only things I miss from my iPhone are jailbreak apps. The new windows OS has already been hacked, so it's only a matter of time until I have them again

Lenas said:
I have both the iPhone 4 (haven't sold yet) and the HD7 (just got).
I feel like the operating system on the HD7 is so much better than iOS, but that is going to be personal preference, varying with what people want to do, how techy they are, etc.
As far as the actual phones go, I love the HD7. It's not a retina display, but the size is fantastic and colors vibrant.
Honestly, the only things I miss from my iPhone are jailbreak apps. The new windows OS has already been hacked, so it's only a matter of time until I have them again
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Really? I dont see any threads about it being hacked yet? Only that they are porting it to HD2

guys thanks i'm going to make the jump...i'm ebaying from tonight...and go for the hd7...i keep thinking about it so i thought why not...!!
hello XDA again lol...

stillbrad said:
Really? I dont see any threads about it being hacked yet? Only that they are porting it to HD2
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The ChevronWP7 unlock. Allows sideloading of apps on any WP7 device.

stillbrad said:
Really? I dont see any threads about it being hacked yet? Only that they are porting it to HD2
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there is an app for the hack... all u need to do is search... however there are no apps to be side loaded so its not used yet

[Q] SDXC Compatibility?

Hi everyone!
do anyone of you know if the Optimus Speed Supports SDXC? (or any Bigger memory cards than 32 Gigs?) Officially, LG said, i believe, it Supports only 32Gigs, however, i`ve read somewhere, that the only Difference between SDHC and SDXC is that SDXC uses the "exFAT" Filesystem! Hardware-wise, even a "old" SD 1.0 reader should be able to read both, SDHC and SDXC its just the right drivers u need... so do anyone of you know, if Android supports the exFAT Filesystem? if android Supports it, i believe so, Android should be able to read/write the Big Cards?
sorry for my horrible english by the way ...

Does really nobody know something Memory is a really important thing for me...

Sorrow1994 said:
Does really nobody know something Memory is a really important thing for me...
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Are you know, where we can buy microSDXC 64GB????

Sorrow1994 said:
Does really nobody know something Memory is a really important thing for me...
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I would also like to know if anyone could try out a 64 GB sdxc card in a o2x.
I have the phone on order, and this would be a serious plus, especially since the phone otherwise will only accept up to 40 gb (8gb + 32gb sdhc card ;-o )

Gnuig said:
I would also like to know if anyone could try out a 64 GB sdxc card in a o2x.
I have the phone on order, and this would be a serious plus, especially since the phone otherwise will only accept up to 40 gb (8gb + 32gb sdhc card ;-o )
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your wrong lol
the Phone does accept 40 Gigs, However, u can unly use like 35 Gigs or sumthing for your own Data, wich is... hmmm not that much! (5,5GB internal SD+32GB SDHC <-- 30 GB useable!)
EDIT: what would i do with so much space? well, currently the 35 gigs that the Phone offers WOULD BE ENOUGH BY FAR for me! but if im going to buy this Phone, i think im gonna own it for like 3 Years or Something! ...and after some time i might need more Space! (my Music Collection is growing all the time!) and a little bit of... hm how you call it? "Future Proofness"... maybe? anyway, that wouldnt be bad...
EDIT Nr.2: @ altemirx no, i don't lol ... as i said previously, i want... how i should call it? "Future Proofness"

Sorrow1994 said:
your wrong lol
the Phone does accept 40 Gigs, However, u can unly use like 35 Gigs or sumthing for your own Data, wich is... hmmm not that much! (5,5GB internal SD+32GB SDHC <-- 30 GB useable!)
EDIT: what would i do with so much space? well, currently the 35 gigs that the Phone offers WOULD BE ENOUGH BY FAR for me! but if im going to buy this Phone, i think im gonna own it for like 3 Years or Something! ...and after some time i might need more Space! (my Music Collection is growing all the time!) and a little bit of... hm how you call it? "Future Proofness"... maybe? anyway, that wouldnt be bad...
EDIT Nr.2: @ altemirx no, i don't lol ... as i said previously, i want... how i should call it? "Future Proofness"
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If you shoot alot of video or want movie files on your phone they can eat up memory quick especially if you record at 1080p.

svengalis said:
If you shoot alot of video or want movie files on your phone they can eat up memory quick especially if you record at 1080p.
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Yeah that's exactly what i mean! and im very heavy Multi Media user, too
so 64 gigs plus would be extremly nice

Sorrow1994 said:
Yeah that's exactly what i mean! and im very heavy Multi Media user, too
so 64 gigs plus would be extremly nice
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Just... by the way... Does any1 has any idea when the First Micro SDXC Cards are going to be avialable?
EDIT: Bull****, Sorry 4 Double Post!

Sorrow1994 said:
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EDIT: what would i do with so much space? well, currently the 35 gigs that the Phone offers WOULD BE ENOUGH BY FAR for me!
but if im going to buy this Phone, i think im gonna own it for like 3 Years or Something! ...and after some time i might need more Space! (my Music Collection is growing all the time!) and a little bit of... hm how you call it? "Future Proofness"...
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35 Gigs of usable memory is ok, but i could easily fill that with pics, music and a few videos... Times are a changing... ;-o
Also, if I get the o2x, i doubt it will last me more that 1 1/2 - 2 years max... Unlike my good old nokia 9500 communicator... I miss the full querty on it... RIP!
Sent from my U20i using XDA App

These cards are confirmed working in several Android's now:
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html

Am guessing that all that is needed for using an SDXC card, is just a driver. As simple as that.
I remember like 5-6 years ago i used to have a pocked pc and it was when SDHC standards arrived, and by just installing a 2kb file or smthn, they were completely usable on any old Device. So am guessing the same thing applies here...
I could be wrong of course : )

lorismarcos said:
Am guessing that all that is needed for using an SDXC card, is just a driver. As simple as that.
I remember like 5-6 years ago i used to have a pocked pc and it was when SDHC standards arrived, and by just installing a 2kb file or smthn, they were completely usable on any old Device. So am guessing the same thing applies here...
I could be wrong of course : )
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This is true. There is technically no difference between between the SDHC and SDXC-cards, just the size. You need a file-system which supports >32GB-cards. (I have a transformer, which has built-in support for NTFS, and will happily accept SDXC-cards larger than 32GB provided it's formatted with NTFS.)
I haven't tested if any ROM for the O2X can mount SD-cards with anything else than FAT, but it's easy enough to test I guess. Just format a(ny) card with ext2/3 and insert it. If it's recognized it should be possible to use cards >32GB.

Did neither of you guys see my post? These are working in Android devices, no special drivers needed. I don't think anyone has tried in a 2x specifically, but I would be surprised if they didn't work.