great success! Supports Exchange!!! but no Push mail yet...
Well done, let me be the first to offer my condolences....
Ill just stick with my Athena thanks. Seriously though, is it actualy any good?
i want one!!
phamoui said:
great success! Supports Exchange!!! but no Push mail yet...
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two months from now, when the shinny'ness wares off, you'll miss your pocket pc/smartphone
to hiimclif:
My brother bought an iphone today and was previously using a cingular 8125 and the iphone is so far above the technology of anything i have ever used. Don't get me wrong im sure its not a good comparison of the two phones. But within just the 10 minutes i was able to play with it i truely found it to be far supperior to any current ppc/smartphone. The design and layout is so much more fluent then windows its rediculous. im sure your much more knowledgable about everything, but as a normal user and not a hardcore junkie about everything i would never see myself going back to my cingular 8125. And im not biased towards anything i havent owned an apple product in my life but i can truely say this is an amazing piece of technology that blows The HTCtouch and what i believe just about everything else out of the water
lol Thats cuz you had a 8125.. Get a Hermes and tell me how much you would never go back to PPC. .
I don't have any plans to drop my Athena.
Iphone is a smartphone and that's it.
It's finn, and very fast,
Now I need to unlock, anybody?
Madcap180 said:
lol Thats cuz you had a 8125.. Get a Hermes and tell me how much you would never go back to PPC. .
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Hey, can you tell me about the hermes. you are talking about the 8525 right?
Is the processor 400mhz a big difference to the 8125, 200mhz.
Is it also USB 2.0 transfer. I really hate the 8125's slow usb 1.0 transfer. Have to take my card out of the phone and use a seperate reader to transfer my moviez and songs.
btw, any sim unlocker avail for this iphone ?
iPhone doesn't have a SIM card.
daddy_yankee1980 said:
Hey, can you tell me about the hermes. you are talking about the 8525 right?
Is the processor 400mhz a big difference to the 8125, 200mhz.
Is it also USB 2.0 transfer. I really hate the 8125's slow usb 1.0 transfer. Have to take my card out of the phone and use a seperate reader to transfer my moviez and songs.
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try looking up wm5torage
yes it does...
http://www.nytimes.com/ref/business/20070627_POGUE_GRAPHIC.html#
last I checked all GSM phones did..
phamoui said:
Iphone is a smartphone and that's it.
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Where do you get an additional applications for it?
Where is the software development kits?
Without these things its not a smartphone.
Madcap180 said:
iPhone doesn't have a SIM card.
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Um.
I hear iPhone also eats babies, and is made with the skins of 3 day old sealpups, and supports $cientology.
Of course it has a bloody SIM card. Try looking something up before stating "facts" about it
Ingvarr said:
Where do you get an additional applications for it?
Where is the software development kits?
Without these things its not a smartphone.
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Does a hell of a lot more stuff than my old dialphone does. At what point does a phone become smart? Email? Contacts? Address book you can edit? Internet access? VPN and webapps? Desktop-derived operating system?
SDK doesn't make the device a smartphone. You couldn't run anything on the UK-Market Three A925, unless Three published it - sure, you could get a Symbian SDK from somewhere for UIQ, but Three didn't make it "legal" or "easy" to get UIQ apps onto the device.
I think most people will agree the existence of an SDK doesn't not define a define as a smartphone.
I read somewhere the lack of 3G is actually due to the Qualcomm chip injunction. Wonder if there's a grain of truth in that...
Phone becomes smart when you can develop & install native third-party applications for it, that blends unlimited functionality of personal computer into phone platform.
Otherwise its just an ordinary phone - every phone have an OS and set of default applications inside, some very rich, hovewer these are not smartphones.
Btw, there is no probs in getting devkits for UIQ. Currently the main hassle is mandatory signing, but its still not closed platform. IPhone is.
RichardKAthena said:
Um.
I hear iPhone also eats babies, and is made with the skins of 3 day old sealpups, and supports $cientology.
Of course it has a bloody SIM card. Try looking something up before stating "facts" about it
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I think what he meant was the iPhone doesn't have a REMOVABLE SIM card. There isn't a way to access it (although I'm sure you could if you pulled the phone apart) because the battery also ISN'T removeable along with there being no back cover. This phone is just one big 'thing'.
-Nstefanelli-
HERMES IS BETTER
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I think what he meant was the iPhone doesn't have a REMOVABLE SIM card. There isn't a way to access it (although I'm sure you could if you pulled the phone apart) because the battery also ISN'T removeable along with there being no back cover. This phone is just one big 'thing'.
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Umm, if its a CDMA phone, its no wonder it have no SIM card.
SIM card is GSM thing, CDMA phones do not use "cards".
Some real Facts
Ok Guys, some real facts regarding my Iphone:
-of course there is a SIM Card. (cames with a blank sim card to activate via Itunes)
-Yes it's a smartphone, Why? Because you can install and unistall widgets applications (just like Mac OS widgets)
-Do not record VIDEOS (So youtube it's only to vivew some videos) maybe next firmware update will enable the camera to record
At this moment I'm trying to hack the device and Itunes to unlock my device, Do you guy know any other forum ? maybe like iphone-developers... I will post my review at
http://www.techguru.com.br
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-Yes it's a smartphone, Why? Because you can install and unistall widgets applications (just like Mac OS widgets)
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A lot of ordinary phones allow to install java applets, hovewer it does not make them smartphones.
As with iPhone widgets these are not true native applications, as they run in "sandboxed" environment and do not have the full access to phone hardware and OS features.
Apple declared already that they *maybe* will consider "opening" the iPhone and making it a true smartphone, but they said that "we will need to sort out security issues first".
Related
Its just sinking in for me.. im kind of bummed about it.
The measly 4GB on the diamond with NO means of expansion is not enough.
The iphone offers 8 and 16.. even the freaking Samsung Tocco is being given away with 8GB card.
What were HTC thinking?!
darthbane2k said:
Its just sinking in for me.. im kind of bummed about it.
The measly 4GB on the diamond with NO means of expansion is not enough.
The iphone offers 8 and 16.. even the freaking Samsung Tocco is being given away with 8GB card.
What were HTC thinking?!
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Don't like it, don't buy it!!! You really like the iphone? Go with it and hold your complaints to yourself. There is a lot of this topic going around already, don't litter it with more of the same sh*t...
oddball1 said:
Don't like it, don't buy it!!! You really like the iphone? Go with it and hold your complaints to yourself. There is a lot of this topic going around already, don't litter it with more of the same sh*t...
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No.. I absolutely detest the iPhone.
I already have my diamond, but tonight (as I put loads of music on my device) ive been thinking about it more and more... why didnt HTC put at least 8GB in it or add a Micro SD slot.
Other than that, I absolutely adore my diamond. Its a fantastic device and a great upgrade to my HTC Touch.
The whole 'mine is bigger than yours' thing doesn't bother me.
It's a phone, not an entertainment system for me.
I always carry a usb drive and am rarely far from a real pc.
When I ordered it I hadn't noticed the lack of card slot and I've only ever had a 2gig card in my previous smartphones. Maybe I just don't understand the concern to have so much on a media player but then again I did used to buy C120 tapes for my walkman
darthbane2k said:
No.. I absolutely detest the iPhone.
I already have my diamond, but tonight (as I put loads of music on my device) ive been thinking about it more and more... why didnt HTC put at least 8GB in it or add a Micro SD slot.
Other than that, I absolutely adore my diamond. Its a fantastic device and a great upgrade to my HTC Touch.
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I cant remember the exact figure but it would add several mm to the device to put in a MicroSD slot so that's the main reason they didnt. There may also be power savings and speed improvements but i beleive the size issue was the most important.
ljames28 said:
I cant remember the exact figure but it would add several mm to the device to put in a MicroSD slot so that's the main reason they didnt. There may also be power savings and speed improvements but i beleive the size issue was the most important.
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Second the notion! One of the best things the Diamond has is its size!
Perfect size,you boys are forgetting the SIZE.
The fruityphone is huge looks like a brick.
cheers fellas.
Sergio PC said:
The fruityphone is huge looks like a brick.
cheers fellas.
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Turns into one too you try and do anything clever on it ;-)
I'm syncing my diamond to my iMac(itunes) using missing sync, so I'm not really sure whether this is possible using media player on windows, haven't been using windows for years so I have no idea as to it's playlist capabilities...
I've got two playlists that I'm syncing (everytime my diamond connects, basically every night) the first one I add music to as I please (songs I have to actually add to the playlist)... The second however consists of songs played less than three times... I have a pretty large library and my diamond pretty much always have music on it that I'm not tired of, hence I find the 4Gb quite sufficient. This is also available for videos, or video podcasts (if you use your diamond as a video player)
They'll comeout with one with more memory, until then, go to www.modmyifone.com:)
oddball1 said:
Don't like it, don't buy it!!! You really like the iphone? Go with it and hold your complaints to yourself. There is a lot of this topic going around already, don't litter it with more of the same sh*t...
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I absolutely agree. Everyone knows that the Diamond has 4Gb and is not expandable. Pretty pathetic really if they buy it and then realise they want more space.
I have stored 100+ pics, 15 hours of music and installed all programs in the internal storage - and I still have 2,4 GB free.
darthbane2k said:
No.. I absolutely detest the iPhone.
I already have my diamond, but tonight (as I put loads of music on my device) ive been thinking about it more and more... why didnt HTC put at least 8GB in it or add a Micro SD slot.
Other than that, I absolutely adore my diamond. Its a fantastic device and a great upgrade to my HTC Touch.
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Hmmm.... ever heard of ORB?
darthbane2k said:
Its just sinking in for me.. im kind of bummed about it.
The measly 4GB on the diamond with NO means of expansion is not enough.
The iphone offers 8 and 16.. even the freaking Samsung Tocco is being given away with 8GB card.
What were HTC thinking?!
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all you seem to do is moan on this forum
get a grip.....
liamhere said:
all you seem to do is moan on this forum
get a grip.....
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And all you seem to do is stalk me in the forum..
I am perfectly within my rights to discuss the shortcomings of a product that I purchased within the arena of a forum dedicated to said product.
A forum exists for discussion, debate and problem solving. What do you expect, me to create countless thread of "how much I love my diamond". No.
You dont like it, stay out of the thread.
just look at your posts
moan...moan....ohh yes and moan again
apd said:
I absolutely agree. Everyone knows that the Diamond has 4Gb and is not expandable. Pretty pathetic really if they buy it and then realise they want more space.
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Not really. Its like anything else, you buy it thinking it'll be fine - its only when the space runs out that you realise you want more.
And no - dont go suggesting the iphone as an alternative, to me its a compromise. I want a kick ass Windows Mobile device. The diamond is damn near perfect apart from the storage issue. Curious HTC went this route as
1) Flash memory is very cheap. Hardly any cost difference between 4GB and 8GB
2)A Micro SD slot will not impact size that much
Do any of you think there will be any third party solutions (adaptors of some sort?)
liamhere said:
moan...moan....ohh yes and moan again
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Are you as much as an asshole in real life as you are in this forum?
Like I said - dont like the topic? Piss off.
Then again -do I expect any less from a fan of 'Absolutely Fabulous'
Seelenfresser said:
Hmmm.... ever heard of ORB?
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Totally forgot about ORB! With my HSDPA connection, it should work like a dream
The forum is for trying to solve a problem and sharing information.
Moaning - perhaps understandable to a certain limit.
Now, you know there is nothing you (or anyone else can do) about the 4 GB internal sotrage that you got with your phone.
If there is a new version of the diamond, with more memory or an external card slot.. someone will definitely share that info.
Unless that's what you were doing, I don't think that moaning is going to get you anywhere or achieve anything.
An exercise in futility.
If you just want to share your opinion, there are plenty of places where you can do so.
Doing it on a forum where people are looking for solutions, not exactly the best approach.
Just my view
L o r d R a j said:
The forum is for trying to solve a problem and sharing information.
Moaning - perhaps understandable to a certain limit.
Now, you know there is nothing you (or anyone else can do) about the 4 GB internal sotrage that you got with your phone.
If there is a new version of the diamond, with more memory or an external card slot.. someone will definitely share that info.
Unless that's what you were doing, I don't think that moaning is going to get you anywhere or achieve anything.
An exercise in futility.
If you just want to share your opinion, there are plenty of places where you can do so.
Doing it on a forum where people are looking for solutions, not exactly the best approach.
Just my view
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Not really - there are workable solutions, for example someone mentioned ORB.. plus I'd like to get into dialogue about the possibility of adaptors..
I wont be dictated to about what I can or cannot talk about.
I mean a thread dedicated to wallpaper on the diamond (Which is near 5 pages long) is more redundant than this one, yet I hear no complaints about that.
Hi @all,
Is anybody thinking about porting the WM 6.1 ROM from HTC Touch HD to HTC Shift?
Maybe we can use the Touch Pro ROM to extend the key features on shift?
;-)
Is only a crazy brainstorm ;-)
Yeah, that would be so creazy
Actually, this is not an OS problem crippling the shift but a driver problem. Porting a diamond rom is easy to do, but doesn't bring anything new, and takes more rom space.
thaihugo said:
Yeah, that would be so creazy
Actually, this is not an OS problem crippling the shift but a driver problem. Porting a diamond rom is easy to do, but doesn't bring anything new, and takes more rom space.
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I thought that was some "Bios lock feature the problem, and not a driver problem crippling the shift... do you know something more about this driver?
...maybe, it wasn't a great idea giving the SHIFT to my uncles in York...
thaihugo said:
Yeah, that would be so creazy
Actually, this is not an OS problem crippling the shift but a driver problem. Porting a diamond rom is easy to do, but doesn't bring anything new, and takes more rom space.
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Yes, you are right. It is something to do with Drivers, otherwise liberation would not show complete WinMo.
Thanks
Ram
I successfully ported the SYS from a diamond rom. It gives some better interface, but what is really linking to the phone is the OEMdirvers section. This one cannot be imported from let's say a Kaiser, because the phone look for a sim door for example. So it means new drivers must be found and adapted for the phone, the Wifi and the Xvga screen.
For SD and BT, I think drivers are more or less standard, but as I said in another post, something like the embeded controler is locking it on the vista side.
This is many different sides to work on. I think once the embeded controler (or whatever it is) lock is removed, we will find BT and SD.
thaihugo said:
For SD and BT, I think drivers are more or less standard, but as I said in another post, something like the embeded controler is locking it on the vista side.
This is many different sides to work on. I think once the embeded controler (or whatever it is) lock is removed, we will find BT and SD.
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May be I should put my cycles of effort there.
Thanks
Ram
uiui ;-)
I see... hmm.. my idea was only Windows Mobile 6.1 from a Touch pro for test the integration on Windows Server 2008 and Exchange 2007 on a "big device"
crazy.. driver problems between SD, BT and WLAN. Maybe, the additional Hardware is build on second Hardware Device (for windows use)..
Don´t have any a hardware Layer circuit of the Shift?
I think the only way for porting a WM 6.1 with all features is - to enable the SD Card reader. Maybe (when it works) we can modify with some registry tweaks the SD Memory card as "Virtual ROM".
Sometimes i ask me, whynot I can swap out easily the PIM Database to SD on other HTC Devices. Our Users are Power Users, and the most of them kill the internal memory with they big powerpoint slides... ;-)
If this is what you need, I think I can cook something and post it. But it is not optimized for space.
Hi Thai,
thank you, but don´t make to much if we found a solution to enable the SD Card slot as additional (and standalone WM) drive we have all features open. I think that is the best way, but where are the experts for this?
A other Idea: Maybe the X7510 Advantage ROM is fits more to Shifts Hardware Specs?
maybe there are drivers for SD Card Slot?
Puhh..
B/Tooth, WiFi and SD access are the big gems...shame we're not there yet...
is not a shame
Remember that the Shift is very expensive and the people that can buy this almost not be delicious hackers or developers and the other: there are not so much devices on the market like standard products like Tytn that sells over mobile operators ;-)
sadly, as I see the shift at the Cebit I stopped my ordering. But what the hell driven me, as I order the shift last week again. (I start with a X7510, test it, and think.. poor... so on, sell it again and buy a shift)
Hmm.. I think, i have buyed all nice to have devices of HTC the last 6-7 years.. But now I think it is enough. Always I thinK: WoW, the next Smartphone or PDA must be better.. than I buy it, and see -- hmmm.. ahhh .. ohh.. hmm .. not really better, only a bit
hehe, I must become a special pricing for testing from HTC ;-)
the only really way for all other not working features is, to enable first the SD Card slot. All other comes from alone I think. If teh Shift Users can
porting some apps to SD Card, then it makes much mor fun to hack the Shift (if it possible
joy.d said:
Hmm.. I think, i have buyed all nice to have devices of HTC the last 6-7 years.. But now I think it is enough. Always I thinK: WoW, the next Smartphone or PDA must be better.. than I buy it, and see -- hmmm.. ahhh .. ohh.. hmm .. not really better, only a bit
hehe, I must become a special pricing for testing from HTC ;-)
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You just sounded like me. My first mobile from HTC brand was Blue Angle (Siemens SX66) and I still have it in the attic. Next were Four Wizards. I have give one to my brother, one to a friend and two are with me. One of them my son uses as a entertainment center in the car. He carries all his favorite music and emulated games always and I think for a 4 year old it is great. The fourth one is in the attic eating dust. I bought Audiovox 5600 and then Cingular 2125 for my wife and now she uses iPhone 3G. I still feel iPhone is for novice phone users, who just want to use fancy smartphone. No issues with it. My office phone runs on 8525 (hermes) and my personal runs on Tilt. I want to upgrade 8525 to something like a Personal Business Center, so bought shift with hope that we could have voice and SD enabled sometime.
I had BenQ P50 for soemtime and I felt that it was great until I saw Wizard and felt what I was missing and sold it. It was rugged machine, I cannot play around it. It is sealed. I become addicted to HTC phones. My next upgrade (8525 replacement would be Touch HD or Sony X1 or W1). I am not sure at this moment though. I also have Everun with broadband interface (Novatel pci express card). It is a very good piece. I want to retire it, once I get Shift fully functional, then I will drop the ide of buying into HTC for sometime at least and invest that money somewhere else.
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Ram
ui, that sounds like me We are far (away) brothers I start first with a Apple Newton, the most of all Palms, some psions, then later some Windows Mobile Handhelds and some PDA´s like Casio E Series.. Then i merged Casio E100 with Siemens S45 mobile phone end of 2000, and talk with some Siemens managers, and then they build the SX45 ;-) (to late) the first PPC with Mobile.. But this all is yesterday... later then HP IPAQ´s, and all branded or not branded nice to have models of HTC..
Puhh. ;-) I think, that "was" my own flat.. but other: so can many friendly hightech computer people
;-)
joy.d said:
ui, that sounds like me We are far (away) brothers I start first with a Apple Newton, the most of all Palms, some psions, then later some Windows Mobile Handhelds and some PDA´s like Casio E Series.. Then i merged Casio E100 with Siemens S45 mobile phone end of 2000, and talk with some Siemens managers, and then they build the SX45 ;-) (to late) the first PPC with Mobile.. But this all is yesterday... later then HP IPAQ´s, and all branded or not branded nice to have models of HTC..
Puhh. ;-) I think, that "was" my own flat.. but other: so can many friendly hightech computer people
;-)
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Exactly. . You will see old HP Jornada (very first Pocket PC), HP Handheld (LX320), iPAQ 3855, iPAQ 310 (GPS companion), iPAQ rx5915 (another GPS) and ASUS R2H, RAON VEGA, Samsung Q1 in addition to 4 to 5 computers at my home. I already have donated few old PCs. I have given my old ViewSonic V1100 to my nephew. He uses it as an entertainment system while traveling and carries his computer games and some cartoons.
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Ram
Crazy the most same by me
And your´re feel always not empty, with your dreams about the pocket (PC) in the trousers? ;-)
the Touch HD internals Name is blackstone.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=451
see now our Hope ))
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448112
Anybody get a pre? I've seen one really great review of it and one kind of crummy review, very curious about getting this phone for my wife. Any recommendations on a good site (the XDA-Dev's for PalmPre)?? Thanks!!
not sure, but i dont believe HTC is manufacturing the pre
XDA = HTC phones.
again, not sure, if it is manufactured by HTC there would probably already be a section on the forum devoted to the pre.
I have heard a lot of good things about the phone.
only 2 cons so far: small keyboard, and programs lag a little.
other then that, Its a great looking phone, with new innovative GUI
I don't think I would be able to use the small keyboard. I can barely use the one on the Treo Pro, and the one on the Centro is too small for me... and I have relatively small hands!
Yeah, I know there won't be a section here as it is most definitely NOT an HTC device, hence my posting in off-topic. I was jut wondering if anyone knew what the best Palm forum is.
I've heard from another member of the forums here who has one that there are some hardware probs with the phone, dead pixels and bad overheating problems. First run Blackstones had similar issues so we'll see if this doesn't get straightened out in the next shipment. I'm not too worried about the small keyboard as my wife has doll hands and long nails anyway ;-)
Best bet is Precentral.net
Its not nearly as robust as XDA in regards to the manipulating and hacking of the device (possibly cause its just brand new) but its probably the biggest Pre / WebOS focused message board at the moment.
Yep i have red this is a crap
A piece of crap... is the way that many people has referred about the new PALM Pre.. why? i dont know, but I think its not powerfull than other device from PALM or HTC, but, does this palm have WinMo? maybe this feature can make it a little stronger.
I saw a few videos and i cant remember about it, cause it doesnt matters to me... Palm doesnt matter for who is a HTC user, you know...
BTW that litle qwerty seems to be for a kid... they are very happy cause the edge of the device is soft... what an amazing development!!!!
Well let us know if anyone has a little toy like that.
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
I might be getting one after some of the initial updates and bugs are worked out. 2 of my friends have one and they seem to like it so far comparted to their HTC TP.
zeo2k said:
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
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That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
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That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
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Makes sense...Thanks
I played around withh it for a bit an the keyboard is soft and hard, but maybe your wife's doll hands will be fine lol
The web browsing is great. And I like that it's slim. Other than that, I like my Pro. And I don't know of any other issues. though. Good luck!
I do have to say that the Pre UI is pretty sweet. I hope the Android team takes not and realizes that the built in apps can also look good. As noted a few posts back, the Pre does have a bit of lag when you launch new apps, but the card manager works great for switching once they are open.
I have to say that I love the hardware design of the thing. reminds me a lot of the HTC Touch Dual. I hope HTC brings back the Duals form factor in a new Android handset.
I played with one today at the Sprint store...
The keyboard is better than I expected, better than the Treo Pro, much better than the Centro...
There is a "slight" lag when opening applications, but it doesn't seem to be with all applications.
The card interface is really cool and works great!
I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
ace10134 said:
I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
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I didn't know about the lock in the pocket things, that's really cool
My sever is SSL, so I'm fine there.
And, of course Opera Mini wins, the Pre is doing all the work itself...
HTC did make PALMpre...i remember when it was announce back in january...i have to say it is a very solid and good device and i love winmo phone, current xperia, touch pro, and HTC HD user. Palmpre WEBos impressed me i would pick one up when a gsm version release. I believe this device took whats good with winmo and iphone and combined it together very well and have lots of room to improve as well...one thing i notice about it that is bad is the battery...make sure you read up on the tweaks n so on so you can conserve battery but most people say it dies out very quickly i dunno if its the way they using it or not but i used a unit for 2 days and still have 50 percent battery...i say your wife would love this device and make a fan out of u
They support non-SSL exchange now
derekwilkinson said:
They support non-SSL exchange now
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Thanks! I'm gonna check for updates now! (Next time, it'd be nice if you described your post a little more, but thanks soo much!)
Exchange Works On Pre Without SSL Now!! Yay!
Ok guys i have an iphone 4 and i'm thinking of getting a HD7 have any of you done that and regretted it? or thought is was the best move ever? i'm on the verge of making the move but obviously it is alot of money if it isn't right...My girlfriend has just got one and i like it..but obviously it isn't mine!!!...
The apps on itunes are just plain overcrowed now and apps is no biggy for me any more...as i have an ipad if need be and obviously windows 7 has MS games which some are good.
what do you think?
You might find this link helpful:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mthree/archive/2010/11/19/iphone-to-wp7-111910.aspx
thanks but that is more of a sales pitch blog...lol...i want real peoples experiences...anyone??
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thanks but that is more of a sales pitch blog...lol...i want real peoples experiences...anyone??
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No, it's a guide to help you help you migrate. Should you decide that's what you want to do.
yes and i appericiate that thanks...i just wondered if anyone has made the move...i'm stuck whether to keep the phone or not..
Nearly there...
I'm a iPhone 4 32Gb owner since June launch day with a HTC HD7 on it's way to me in the next few days or week (all depending on USPS First Class International Mail!). Once I get it, I will upgrade it with a SanDisk 32GB Class 2 with help with another thread here.
I'm looking forward to the HTC HD7 and I know deep down there will be some things that will niggle me about WP7... however, I just want to have decent notification which WP7 has! Jailbreaking the iPhone has been easy (but the present jailbreak is 'teathered'- urgh!).
I've been using 'Notify Pro' which has been a pain on the iPhone. To be honest, I thought why am I wasting my time with this buggy third party app from Cydia to get something which should be standard in the first place. I'm also impressed how it has so far integrated FaceBook in WP7, but Twitter needs some tweaking I hear.
I most probably miss the 'iPod ecosystem' (docks and car ICE) but hoping the WP7 UI will wow me and the screen size does look great for browsing the Internet and watching media (Use to have a HTC HD2 and loved the screen but not the constant rebooting!).
I'm planning to keep the iPhone 4 and HD7 for a few months... perhaps, Microsoft's upgrade in January might swing it for me finally!
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yes and i appericiate that thanks...i just wondered if anyone has made the move...i'm stuck whether to keep the phone or not..
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I have had both
they are both excellent
the HD7 has a superior user interface, in that you can switch between a tiled status screen and a list of icons. Its also slicker and cooler (whatever that means )
the larger screen is great. the web browser is slightly slower but it can render some things the iphone browser can't, e.g. go to unlocking.com and try the drop-downs on the iphone ..... I will also be able to do flash at some point, something apple has vowed not to do
its drawbacks are that the app storee has some fun stuff but its small compared to apple. The biggest thing about the WM7 user interface, the active tiles, need to be expanded more. i would like something "HTC sense" like. Obviously we are also waiting for cut & paste in the Jan firmware release.
There is apossibility of expanding the HD7's memory manually as well, as its actually an embedded MicroSD card which many folk have already taken out and replaced with a 32gb one.
thanks alexander for your insight..its just i have had an iphone since 3g, 3gs, 4 and suddenly i thought i need a change i also have had hd2 which i loved..but because of the bugs it had to go..i also have 32gb iphone 4 but one thing is bothering me is "you don't know what you have got until it has gone" i think i will have another go tonight
colonel said:
I have had both
they are both excellent
the HD7 has a superior user interface, in that you can switch between a tiled status screen and a list of icons. Its also slicker and cooler (whatever that means )
the larger screen is great. the web browser is slightly slower but it can render some things the iphone browser can't, e.g. go to unlocking.com and try the drop-downs on the iphone ..... I will also be able to do flash at some point, something apple has vowed not to do
its drawbacks are that the app storee has some fun stuff but its small compared to apple. The biggest thing about the WM7 user interface, the active tiles, need to be expanded more. i would like something "HTC sense" like. Obviously we are also waiting for cut & paste in the Jan firmware release.
There is apossibility of expanding the HD7's memory manually as well, as its actually an embedded MicroSD card which many folk have already taken out and replaced with a 32gb one.
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Thank you..So what would you choose? ip4 or hd7?
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Thank you..So what would you choose? ip4 or hd7?
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it depends on the person. the iphone is more compact and more beautiful (although the HT7 is also very nice).
you first need to decide whether you are comfortable with the size of the device.
also, have you purchased many iphone apps ? you might have "buyer remorse" letting these go
i personally continue to use both. I get bored of the iphone very quickly, then the HD7 is more fun. But then I miss my apps so go back to the iphone for a bit ....
If you have no app investment then definitely try out the HD7
Hello,
I have both and to be honest, I don't know which one to advice..... ;-))
Both are great in differents ways, iPhone is iPhone and I have had one since the first model. I have had plenty of Windows mobile device about 15, I guess.
Now, WP7 looks great, integration with Facebook and of course Xbox live...this is THE point.
I love having my Xbox live account with me all the time, having success on my phone when away from home....
On an other side, I'm so used to my iPhone, I have plenty of softwares I know and I like very much....
So, I decieded to keep both for the moment with 2 SIM cards, like this I have the best from both....
To be honest I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab as well and it's so great....
So the best, if you have enought money, is to have one of each... ;-))
Regards,
I went from iPhone 3G S to the HTC HD7 (T-Mobile branded). There's not much I'm missing. Maybe tethering but I'm sure that will soon be fixed. I like not having to convert anymore of my music. I can load the CD and burn it to hard drive and I can play it straight away on the phone. I don't have to convert it to Apple format to make it portable. I like that I can swap the battery too. Couldn't do that with iPhone. There's a few other nuances but that will happen with anything new. That's only one perspective though. Keep watching for the suggestions and feedback.
I have both the iPhone 4 (haven't sold yet) and the HD7 (just got).
I feel like the operating system on the HD7 is so much better than iOS, but that is going to be personal preference, varying with what people want to do, how techy they are, etc.
As far as the actual phones go, I love the HD7. It's not a retina display, but the size is fantastic and colors vibrant.
Honestly, the only things I miss from my iPhone are jailbreak apps. The new windows OS has already been hacked, so it's only a matter of time until I have them again
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I have both the iPhone 4 (haven't sold yet) and the HD7 (just got).
I feel like the operating system on the HD7 is so much better than iOS, but that is going to be personal preference, varying with what people want to do, how techy they are, etc.
As far as the actual phones go, I love the HD7. It's not a retina display, but the size is fantastic and colors vibrant.
Honestly, the only things I miss from my iPhone are jailbreak apps. The new windows OS has already been hacked, so it's only a matter of time until I have them again
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Really? I dont see any threads about it being hacked yet? Only that they are porting it to HD2
guys thanks i'm going to make the jump...i'm ebaying from tonight...and go for the hd7...i keep thinking about it so i thought why not...!!
hello XDA again lol...
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Really? I dont see any threads about it being hacked yet? Only that they are porting it to HD2
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The ChevronWP7 unlock. Allows sideloading of apps on any WP7 device.
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Really? I dont see any threads about it being hacked yet? Only that they are porting it to HD2
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there is an app for the hack... all u need to do is search... however there are no apps to be side loaded so its not used yet
alright guys my friend has a toshiba satellite L755 (this might not be the entire model number im going to look into it again) and its spec are alright but the video card and possible the cpu are ****. he wants to play alot of the newest games but isent able to run most of them, but im sure a simple getting a video card and installing it should be easy but i dont know if the video card is attached to the cpu and that would be very expensive . i wouldnt know how to tell if it would be that problem can anyone help us?
No, yes, no ...
Desktop and Laptop thread? You can't have missed it?
I have never heard of changing a video card on laptop. It's like built in feature and look that you won't find anything on the market that fits GPU for laptops. You could of course buy a graphics card and connect it via usb but from what I remember It was very expensive and was only given support to some intel cpu's
Better luck asking here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28602532
OT DESKTOP/LABTOP THREAD.
Did you use a T9 keyboard to type that? No capital letters anywhere.
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I've done it several times. It all depends on the laptop and wether or not you can even access the Videocard. Most high-end Asus laptops can easily be customized.
Best go to a computershop if you've no experience with it yourself, it isn't always easy.
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I've done it several times. It all depends on the laptop and wether or not you can even access the Videocard. Most high-end Asus laptops can easily be customized.
Best go to a computershop if you've no experience with it yourself, it isn't always easy.
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Thanks most likely going to do this.