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When I get an email via Push email form my exchange server my device doesnt wake up and tell me, It gets the email, and when I turn on the screen I see the notification, but until then it doesnt beep or turn on or anything to let me know. Is anyone else having this issue? With my old ROM it synced as items arrived the OLD way with exchange, and that woke my device just fine. I like this new QTEK ROM but I can't use it if It don't tell me I have emails. BTW It will wake up for SMS and let me know.
Please post your findings, and what ROM you are using.
I'm using the NEW QTEK 2.17.7.2 rom
Thanx; Lew
Waking the device
Not sure I would want it wake the device for email as this would limit the standby time of the device. Would be nice if it were an option though.
lewcamino said:
When I get an email via Push email form my exchange server my device doesnt wake up and tell me, It gets the email, and when I turn on the screen I see the notification, but until then it doesnt beep or turn on or anything to let me know. Is anyone else having this issue? With my old ROM it synced as items arrived the OLD way with exchange, and that woke my device just fine. I like this new QTEK ROM but I can't use it if It don't tell me I have emails. BTW It will wake up for SMS and let me know.
Please post your findings, and what ROM you are using.
I'm using the NEW QTEK 2.17.7.2 rom
Thanx; Lew
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I am using the same ROM as you, on a Qtek - and experiencing the same symptoms. However, the device does ring/vibrate (depending on your settings) when a new mail comes in.
When does yours ring/vibrate for email? I am trying to find anything to make this work, cause I REALLY liek this ROM, it faster than the cingular ROM
Thanx; Later
same problem here on 8125 with new Qtek rom
Come on guys, its a simple settings change:
Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message.
The default settings in these aku2 roms is for no sound. So just change it.
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lewcamino said:
When I get an email via Push email form my exchange server my device doesnt wake up and tell me, It gets the email, and when I turn on the screen I see the notification, but until then it doesnt beep or turn on or anything to let me know. Is anyone else having this issue? With my old ROM it synced as items arrived the OLD way with exchange, and that woke my device just fine. I like this new QTEK ROM but I can't use it if It don't tell me I have emails. BTW It will wake up for SMS and let me know.
Please post your findings, and what ROM you are using.
I'm using the NEW QTEK 2.17.7.2 rom
Thanx; Lew
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I am using the same ROM as you, on a Qtek - and experiencing the same symptoms. However, the device does ring/vibrate (depending on your settings) when a new mail comes in.
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Vibrate on new mail is working for you?? You appear to be the only one who has this working. What did you do to get it to work?
jdee246 said:
Come on guys, its a simple settings change:
Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message.
The default settings in these aku2 roms is for no sound. So just change it.
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Gee thanks smart ass.
You think we haven't already been through the notification settings?? The problem of not vibrating when new mail arrives (no matter how it's set) has already been verified by many other folks in another thread, and reported to MS. So if you've magically got yours working, please share the info.
BTW, as far as waking up when new mail arrives, MS says that behavior is intentional so as not to impact battery. What that means is that if you have new mail set to notify you onscreen of a new mail, it will not wake the device and you will only see the notification when you bring the device out of standby. Audio notifications of new mail appear to work just fine though.
@summiter:
Tks for everything in that last post! We are not id10t's here....
I wonder how M$ plans on fixing the vibrate bug tho.... AKU3?
jdee246 said:
Come on guys, its a simple settings change:
Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message.
The default settings in these aku2 roms is for no sound. So just change it.
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Ok here's what I think... whether he is a smart as or not, and whether he realizes it or not, he is kinda right (even though we all know that setting.)
If you go to "Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message" you can set it to notify you with a sound, vibrate doesn't work, and the device doesn't turn on when it notifies you. I think this IS by design. If you got 100 emails a day (or more in some cases) your phone would be on ALL day. So I have concluded that this was intentional on M$'s part. So its all good (also I REALLY LIKE THIS ROM, vs stock 8125), plus I don't know if my 8125 ROM vibrated when e-mail was received either. Can anyone with original 8125 ROM confirm this?
Later; Lew
lewcamino said:
jdee246 said:
Come on guys, its a simple settings change:
Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message.
The default settings in these aku2 roms is for no sound. So just change it.
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Ok here's what I think... whether he is a smart as or not, and whether he realizes it or not, he is kinda right (even though we all know that setting.)
If you go to "Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message" you can set it to notify you with a sound, vibrate doesn't work, and the device doesn't turn on when it notifies you. I think this IS by design. If you got 100 emails a day (or more in some cases) your phone would be on ALL day. So I have concluded that this was intentional on M$'s part. So its all good (also I REALLY LIKE THIS ROM, vs stock 8125), plus I don't know if my 8125 ROM vibrated when e-mail was received either. Can anyone with original 8125 ROM confirm this?
Later; Lew
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New mail will not turn on the screen..this is indeed by design as confirmed by Jason at MS. Per MS it is to conserve power.
New mail audio notifications work as expected.
New mail vibrate does not work, it apparently should, and MS has been notified, and they in turn have notified Imate. Whether Qtek and other device makers have been notified, I don't know.
There is a thread on the vibrate-on-new-email problem in the Wizard forum that was started almost 2 weeks ago. That is also where the notification and feedback from MS is quoted. The problem has been forwarded to the WM folks inside MS.
Hope this clears things up a tad. =)
indeed it does. I dont NEED the vibrate, it would be nice but, I dotn NEED it. Plus I must say that I am SOOO INTENT on keeping this ROM (me likes, much faster than stock cingular) that I almost dont care at all... :shock:
Later; Lew
Is this problem unique to the Wizards?
Sound/Vibrate works for me
The sound notification works for me. When push e-mail comes in it plays my sound. The wav file I use for e-mail notification is on my SD card to boot.
Before push e-mail I used the Exchange AUTD feature and that actually did turn the screen on and played my sound. With push e-mail it just plays the sound, but the screen doesn't light up. I actually like this better. Usually my phone is out of sight anyway so I don't care if the screen lights up or not. This way it conserves battery better.
As to vibrate, if I set the phone to vibrate using the Comm button it vibrates when I get mail as well, and it still doesn't turn on the screen.
If I set the new mail notification to vibrate under Sounds and Notifications it also vibrates and doesn't turn on the screen.
I am running the stock ROM I have not installed anything on it. I have not done any customization to make these things work. They just work for me. I notice most users reporting this are using the new Cingular 8125. I am using an OEM Qtek 9100.
Qtek 9100
2.17.7.2 WWE
It seems that the issue isn't really an issue unique to push email. I'm using VeriChat (IM client) and when IM's arrive, the notification while in standby has exactly the same behavior as with push email (sound if volume is up, but never vibe, whereas vibe will work if the screen is on).
I think the issue is that the device is set to never vibrate when in standby. Period.
An incoming phone call wakes the device. Vibe will work since the device is already in a powered-up state. SMS is the same thing - the arrival of an SMS causes the device to wake up; therefore the vibe can proceed since it is no longer in standby.
Pre-push AUTD includes the receipt of an SMS triggering a pull - that's what allowed the device to wake up and vibe.
Push email (and, for that matter, scheduled pull email) does not wake up the device; neither does an IM client.
What is still baffling me is why some people seem to not have this issue. It appears to have less to do with the actual device and more the ROM (which makes sense). I'm still hoping that someone with more reverse engineering skills than I have can diff the extended ROM's of a device where this works (like the QTEK out of the box?) with one where it doesn't (e.g., the update for Cingular) and put together a little cab that would fix this annoying quirk.
I'm thinking that those of us who have the issue (and care about it!) may want to pool together a pot to reward the first to solve this problem... Just a thought..
I concur
I have the QTEK 9100 and 2.17 ROM. Have the same problem, on msg receive I only get sound no vibrate (when device is off). I have heard from others who have other WM5 devices that they do get the vibrate and when I spoke to the MSFT product guys at CTIA they all seemed surprised that this does not work. So I dont think its by design, its a problem with the 2.17 ROM that we all have. There probably is a workaround. Anyone hear of one?
Hi,
I'm not sure if anyone here can give me a hint on this, but here goes. I flashed my TyTN II with Dutty's 6.1 ROM a while back. I'm not sure if it's related, but for some reason my phone stopped playing the notification sound for when a text message is received.
In Settings > Sounds & Notifications, however, on the Notifications tab the "incoming text message" event is wired up to a sound just fine. Similarly, on the Sounds tab I have Events, Programs and Notifications all checkboxed.
Do you any other reason why this event wouldn't fire or why it doesn't play the notification sound?
Have you installed, or are you using Palm SMS?
There is a seperate option in Sound and notifications for Incoming Message (Palm SMS). You may need to change this to something else and then back again to get it to stick.
Ta
Dave
First of all, there is a thread about this rom, in which this problem is explained and solved at least 3 times, it's really not hard to search instead of making another thread that is just cluttering space for no useful reason.
If you disable the Microsoft Voice Command, your SMS sound will go back to a proper working order, you can do so In Start-->Settings--> MSVC
I think his question is legitimate. I have exactly the same problem and have also not found any solution in the more than 180 sides of the Dutty thread. And thanks for your hint with the Voice Commander. I tried it also but it still does not work.
Yeah, sorry. Didn't want to clutter up the forum with something that has already been covered. However, I don't even know if this is related to Dutty's ROM, but one seems to expect so. Searching for this problem has also proved a bit difficult. I just don't get any usable results.
I have not installed Palm SMS, unless it's installed on Dutty's ROM. However, I don't think so.
Furthermore, I don't believe I have Microsoft Voice Command, neither. As far as I can tell, it's commercial speech recognition software by Microsoft, and not standard with Windows Mobile 6.1.
I'll go through some of the many pages on the Dutty thread to see if I can find more information.
Thaurin said:
Hi,
I'm not sure if anyone here can give me a hint on this, but here goes. I flashed my TyTN II with Dutty's 6.1 ROM a while back. I'm not sure if it's related, but for some reason my phone stopped playing the notification sound for when a text message is received.
In Settings > Sounds & Notifications, however, on the Notifications tab the "incoming text message" event is wired up to a sound just fine. Similarly, on the Sounds tab I have Events, Programs and Notifications all checkboxed.
Do you any other reason why this event wouldn't fire or why it doesn't play the notification sound?
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Have you installed any other software? Any registry tweakers like Kaiser Tweak etc? Dutty's ROM has AdvancedConfig installed by default. You may want to check the message settings in that.
Well, yes, I installed a ****load of applications. One could of course be the cause of all this, but I simply don't have any idea. AdvancedConfig has three messaging options:
- SMS sent notification: Disabled
- SMS delivery notification: Disabled
- SMS Unicode support: Enabled
Somehow SMS delivery notification doesn't sound like it's about incoming SMS messages, but it's strange that there is one for sent and delivery. So I'll enable that and see what happens.
Running low on ideas...but...
I take it all other sounds do work? If not try a new Radio.
Ta
Dave
Some time ago I had a similar problem. In settings/notification.... in the box for New text message there is a option to play to file. Even if I clicked the play, it didnt play the ringtone. Later after a hardreset I realized that it was someway connected to audio manager and playing wav files. The audio manager was not able to play the wav files. Maybe the file was not associated with the player. Just my two cents.
Alright, success! After setting SMS delivery notification to Enabled in AdvancedConfig, I tested it out. And there was both sound and vibration, too (which it didn't before neither). So I suppose that setting was the culprit, although I have no clue why it got set to Disabled. Also, I am amazed that apparently this really pertains to incoming text messages instead of messages I sent out.
Mikulec: I had some problems with ringtones before. Once it didn't want to play custom ones any more. Since I flashed my ROM, I never really figured out why it did that, but maybe it was because of some media player I had installed that took over some file associations. Who knows.
Thaurin said:
Alright, success! After setting SMS delivery notification to Enabled in AdvancedConfig, I tested it out. And there was both sound and vibration, too (which it didn't before neither). So I suppose that setting was the culprit, although I have no clue why it got set to Disabled.
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This setting is just for notifying u that the message u have sent was delivered. This shouldnt be tha cause.
But I am glad it works now.
This is annoying, then. It works now, but I'd like to know what fixed it. I did a few different things over the course of trying to fix my problem, of course, but nothing that I thought would be The Solution.
On top of this, I don't get a delivery notification for messages that I have sent after toggling that setting, so it appears to be not working correctly.
I suppose sometimes you just have to not ask questions and move on...
Thank you!
Thank you very much! After much time in searching, I've also didn't realized that is because of Advanced config. Now it's really works!
As above, delivery notifications would normally be a delivery receipt for messages that you've sent - when enabled you'll get a message from 'System Administrator' telling you when the SMS you sent was delivered to the receipient.
If enabling that has solved your problems, great. One thing to note though if you are getting receipts is that sometimes networks charge for these delivery receipts, and these generally won't be included in any allowances for SMS/calls etc. with your subscription.
In the UK I know Orange charge 0.9p for each one they send to you. ...My orange bill was £623 last month and one of their suggestions to reduce it was to turn delivery reports off. When I'd stopped laughing we agreed that wasn't really going to contribute too much!
Regards,
Rob.
Hi,
I had the same problem with my Touch HD (Blackstone). I change cooked ROMs a lot, and sometimes I don't have sounds in notification area (new SMS, new e-mail, etc...).
I use the Free Mp3 Wma Converter to convert all mp3's and wav's to wma format. After that, just transfer wma files to the /Windows directory on Your device, pick sounds in "Sounds & Notifications" and it should work It's just that easy
ok, i have used search and skimmed through 14 pages of results and i don't know what has happened but i can't get any notifications for sms. i still get vibrations and rings from phone calls but i get nothing from sms. i have checked the settings, sounds and notifications, etc tab. i have downloaded and installed schaps advancedconfig and it didn't help. i haven't changed anything before this. i have a stock rom/radio. i haven't installed any new programs or changed any settings in forever and as of today i can't get a vibrate to save my life.
please help if you can.
thanks in advance
-Typhoone
I had a problem just like this, i believe. It was because i had set the SMS notification sound as an MP3, i think if it's set as something that's not a default tone. After a while i would get no sound for SMS notifications. i couldn't find anyone else with the problem, and the only fix I've found is to just set it back to a defualt tone. Then you should get the sound back, and vibrate too.
I am having the same problem. Haven't found a solution yet.
i wish that would help but i have never changed the notification sound. it is still set to the AT&T default. :'-(
typhoone said:
i wish that would help but i have never changed the notification sound. it is still set to the AT&T default. :'-(
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i know you have said you havent changed settings however have you disabled threaded sms?
I like the original poster are running the stock rom which is not wm 6.1, so no threaded sms.
haven't disabled threaded, haven't changed the notification, haven't installed new proggies, havent changed any settings what-so-ever. i got my phone where i liked it around 2 months ago and i haven't changed anything since. and this started happenning yesterday. :'-(
your'e not alone
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How can this happen to only a handful of phones? There has to be more people with this problem.
check sounds and notifications and sounds tab and make sure BOTH of the first check boxes are checked. i disabled events once thinking it was just the bleep sound from windows and turns out it includes messageing but not phone rings. I was in the same situation for months stumped on this lol
still checked..... :'-( i want my notifications back. lol
Hi,
after searching for weeks around ways to make the ring tone for text messages work, I found that even though there exist several proposals to solve the problem, many htc diamond users still apparently don't succeed in getting it done, myself included.
The problem is that if a message arrives, the phone returns to normal mode if on standby, the lights flash, but NO TONE is played. No matter if in standby mode or not.
So far I tried the following which at least made the phone wake up and the light flashes. However, no sound is played and moreover the message is not displayed. (I am not using Manila but SPB Mobile Shell (tried 2.15 and 3.0 and without, but does not change).
things tried:
1) I did several Hard Resets including using a totalling of five different ROMs (including one with 6.5)
2) Trying all possible settings in the alerts and Notifications menus, Vibrate, Program Sounds, built-in sounds,...
3) edit the registry to make the phone wake up on Message
4) Install the HTC Hotfix for the greyed out REPEAT option
The strange thing is, once I flash the phone new, it works for about one day, but then stops (however, I used to install some programs during that period, so far could not 8for the lack of time) find out what was the particular reason.
but after about 10 complete new Flashs I am really desperate that one of the most simple features of cellphones, an text message beep, seems not possible with the HTC Touch Diamond.
In any case, I know there are a lot of discussions around this issues but I tried all of them and it seems that they don't work for many others as well, while it does for some.
It would be great to have a final thread getting this issue fixed ultimately!
Thanks for your experiences / ideas !
cheers,
Playagiron
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So after long trials and errors, I found one more reason why one cannot hear text message sounds:
I had deleted the Activesync Registry Key in order to get rid ot the Outlook Email Account as suggested in several threads. Apparently this made the sms sound not work anymore, for whatever reason.
Just restored the backup of the Active Sync key to HKLM Software Microsoft Inbox Svc and voilá!
well i think this is one of the most crucial and important problem with HTC phones...i had the same problem with my HTC Touch before...hopefully this should not start with my new diamond.
solution of that i found was something similar what u stated. i tried deleting my smses..i had more than 3000 sms in inbox and in outbox around 2500...so i deleted say around 1000 sms ..which might played some trick and then sms sound started...unfortunately my htc touch then got stolen ...i wish i would have not fixed that problem for thief to go with same misery of not getting incoming sms sound
it didn't work for me....grrrr
any new solutions?
playagiron said:
So after long trials and errors, I found one more reason why one cannot hear text message sounds:
I had deleted the Activesync Registry Key in order to get rid ot the Outlook Email Account as suggested in several threads. Apparently this made the sms sound not work anymore, for whatever reason.
Just restored the backup of the Active Sync key to HKLM Software Microsoft Inbox Svc and voilá!
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Same problem here.
I was hearing sounds in incoming emails a few days ago but suddenly no sound is played when i receive an email.
I didn´t delete any registry value, so i don´t know if your solution can help me, but... do you remember the registry key to review, please?
Thanks!
Still looking for a solution anyway
EDIT: I have found a pseudo-solution: if i check the box "Display message on screen" (Sounds & Notifications), new email notifications sounds normally.
I don´t like seeying WM notifications pop´ups, but... it´s the only way new email are notified with sound.
So i just got my Diamond 2, and it's great and all.
One annoying thing though, is that when i receive a SMS/text when the phone is 'sleeping',
the phone does not notify me by sound/vibration/LED blinking.
Often i have to wake the phone up manually, and first THEN the phone notifies me by sound/ring.
changing the SMSWakeUp setting in the registry helps,
but then it's wakes up unlocked (with CSDEVCTRL installed, other apps don't lock perfectly), which is a big annoyance.
Has anyone else experienced this problem, and maybe have a solution?
Regards.
Goto "Settings --- Sound ----- Advanced ----- Notifications ----- Event ---- New Text Message" and disable "Play Sound".... then "ok" for exit.. Then repeat this for enable sound for "New Text Message" and change default message tone..
This works for me.. Never missed message after this "weird" settings..
Doesn't work, thanks for the advice though
For the "New Text Message" event, just untick "Display Message" and it will wake up locked, play sounds, and flash the LED
This has been mentioned on other threads, quite a few people including myself are having the same problem and it doesnt appear to be a settings issue.
On about 50% of received messages all i get is the green light flashing, when the phone is woken the text alert sounds.
This used to happen on every message, a hard reset improved things but its still not perfect. I send and receive a lot of SMS messages and its really annoying not to be notified when i get replies.
Maybe this will be addressed in a firmware update.
Sorry, forgot to mention that I have also changed the SMSWakeUp registry key. I've had no problems in about 2 weeks with SMS since
craiglay said:
Sorry, forgot to mention that I have also changed the SMSWakeUp registry key
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For those who are interested, more info on this can be found here.
Thanks, gonna read that.
I've enabled SMSwakeup and installed Pocketshield (slidelock only) as a temporary solution.